Can Sergio Perez bounce back in 2024 and is F1 letting young drivers down? | PODCAST 

Perez should just focus on himself and doing the best he can and let go of the idea he can ever beat max in a season

Fixed the timestamps 00:00 - Start 02:38 - Young drivers in Abu Dhabi 11:38 - Is F1 letting young drivers down? 28:28 - O’Ward and McLaren 34:37 - Perez's 2024 homework 38:53 - F2 champion Pourchaire's F1 chances

If you limit the grid to 20 drivers, and you want drivers to have 10 year careers, you should get 2 rookies per year on average. We had 3 this year (4 if Lawson counts). The stakes are so high, in F1, committing to a full-time seat, is insane. In most team sports, you can be eased in, but not in F1. The risk of a bringing in a De Vries is so high vs getting a serviceable if lower-grid HUL or MAG. F1 wants more races, either through additional GP weekends or through sprint races. More weekends stretch the current talent, and sprint races are looking for a reason to exist. If F1 is willing to have 3-4 drivers per team, why not have sprint races be run by a driver not taking part in the GP? Or, if they insist on holding more and more events, why not mandate that out of 30 weekends, no single driver can partake in more than 22 (and have 8 marquee events, say BRA/CAN/JAP/AUS internationally and GBR/BEL/ITA/MON, count double so that some events retain all the prestige?

Maybe for some European rounds teams could run a third car? We need more cars and new drivers on the grid.

Back in the late 70s/early 80s the F1 teams used to do a race of champions in F1 cars. I remember watching a young Danny Sullivan race against Keke Rosberg at maybe Brands Hatch in maybe 82 (ish?). That could be tweaked a little bit, and they could do something like that with young drivers/ other series champs that may want to have a go at F1.

In 1981 it was the water from the fire hoses used to fight the fire in the Loews Hotel at the chicane that caused the tunnel below to flood, hotels not generally being watertight. I can remember the BBC coverage opening up with pictures and a doubt the race would run.

Mick Schumacher 2022: Two points finishes, P6 and P8 Niko Hülkenberg 2023: One points finish, P7. We await your response, Günther.

I think the relative immaturity of the current technical regs and just how different they are from the previous generation is a big barrier for young drivers. Teams need the feed back of experienced drivers to maximize development under the cost cap. The cost cap also isn’t helping with the higher probability of rookies being involved in more accidents than experienced drivers - and that also impacts the development budget.

Yes

Can the guy who finished 2nd in the Driver's standings bounce back??? lol

34:53 That "No..........*giggle* " after the question if Perez's title challenge started here...... that was brutal

I hope to see Liam in F1 in near future

It´s time to create a league system for F1 have 20 teams with 10 in each league. With the current F1 teams in the Premier F1 League and the other 10 teams in the Second F1 League. The second F1 League may run less races and more concentrated on traditional tracks. The winners of the Second F1 League get promoted to the Premier F1 League and the last on the ranking of the Premier F1 League gets demoted to the Second F1 League. This will give much more opportunity to young drivers show their skills and also give the Andretti kinds a chance to get into F1. It also makes the traditional tracks more lucrative as there will be more races. Money does not seem to be a problem too with the cost cap and teams now are worth about a billion dollar. It will make the racing more exciting as also being last has consequences.

I think we're going through a short lull period with young talent. Pourchaire really should replace either a good-but-nothing-special Zhou or a totally indifferent Bottas. When a team has backed one driver for so long, they should at least make the effort to get him up to F1. Yes, Theo's F2 results haven't been that impressive but I'd still take a chance on him to make Sauber more exciting and relevant. If Bearman and Antonelli do a brilliant job in F2 next year, I think we'll see a bigger flow of talent coming in starting with those two.

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Checo has delivered some of the best racing moments in recent F1 history. y'all hating. Is he inconsistent, and trash at qualifying? absolutely. But he won races this year, clutched that P2 in the championship and yall cant take that away from him.

Not hurting O’Ward to remind teams that he now has the super-licence qualification, despite the FIA denying him it in 2020 (exactly the same way as Colton Herta) by disqualifying his points from Indy Lites because it didn’t have enough teams participate in a full season. Sure the series have different skill sets, but the teams know which drivers are capable of both and strangely they’re exactly the people who’ll bring $m with them 😹 Honestly if Palou, Rossi, O’Ward & Herta were in F1, the Indianapolis setup would be the Australian IndyCar Championship.

Can we, please, never call Twitter 'X' ever again

I feel like people are forgetting that Sargent was on an old spec for most of the season v albon (not to put any shade on albon, just something in Sargent favor)

I wonder if the reason really high quality/good young drivers seem to come up in waves is because at the beginning there may be a couple with a lot of natural talent & over time the others with potential really develop well because they spend a lot of time competing against each other. Then at some point they matriculate out and you have a bit of a lull until you get some more young raw talent come in and the bar/level of competition gets raised again.

I think the problem is that F1 has now built this idea of a feeder system with F3/F2 etc but you can't have the same expectations as that concept from other sports. In Football,Basketball etc even if you're slightly lesser than elite level in amateur there are potentially enough spaces on teams for some to be picked up, maybe to fill sub spots. F1 is much more elite than that. Even if every driver left there would still only be space for 20 drivers, maybe 30 with reserves, and if you're successful in F1 especially with the amount of time and money that needs to be invested in a driver to reach that success it is both financially and competitively risky to make a change. Therefore some drivers will hold a seat for years. This not only means that the top of F2 are looking for a seat but also there is a further group who came up and had to go elsewhere while they wait for a seat (like Nyck De Vries) I have no idea how you can solve this as it would be unfair to set a rule where you have to change out a driver if they're below a certain points threshold or something. Maybe have reserve drivers do a sprint at some point in the year so you can see how they handle an actual race situation but even that causes issues. I think we have to just accept that it is the elite of the elite and is one of the most difficult top level sports in the world to get into and that's a double edged sword. You may have less driver turnover but in theory those who do get a chance are more likely to be generational talent such as Verstappen, Leclerc, Lando etc.

Is everyone REALLY going to endure another season of Checo not making it to Q3 in about 50% of the races?

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No one will touch Max and Red Bull next year or the year after. They’re operating on another level to the rest of the grid.

it's all far too elitist - why not allow 3 drivers per team in f1, or at least wildcard driver entries for certain grand prix like they do in motogp

The reason the drivers market is the way it is, with no changes next year and no rookies given a chance was to be expected. Rookies normally only get a chance if somebody is to bad to make up for the money they bring or when somebody retires. When Verstappen joined in '15, teams saw young guys could be ready for F1, so we had a wash of new drivers who were given a year or two and are now stable and experienced. There's simply a grid full of drivers now, the majority of which have many years in them and enough experience. It's that jump/drop in age that clogs up the market and will do until the first of the Verstappen generation retires, up to then it's only ham, alo, bot, mag, hul, ric. The rest is still in their 20s with 10+ years to go.

The hate on Sergio Perez is wild to me. This year was the highest he's ever finished in his career but the narrative is will he "bounce back!?" LMAO

I think his season ended on a good note. That Brazil finish was amazing and finished well in the last race minus the penalties.

Imagine being second in the WDC beside a guy who’s super human and being told you still weren’t good enough. Poor guy can’t win no matter what he does. Checo is a legend and everyone shits on him.

I think Christian Horner was indirectly saying that 2024 would be Checo's last.

deja vu

Not compliquated. No testing = less young drivers. Experience is at a premium now.

Peaks of talent comes from competing against each other, either in the same year or because of records set one or two years prior. This competition pushes them forwards and make them better then the rest. One with "easy" competition and/or 2 or 3 years needed to become champion will never be the same level. Teams and pro's know and recognize this, hence why top tears are so selective. If you are looking for the top 0.01% the pool gets very thin. 2022 Piastri battle highlights that and Fernando and Lewis still performing at age shows why.. The best of the best with a complete package is extremely rare to find, but that is what they are looking for. That ROI is the best in all aspects when it comes to investing time and money in to sports. Hence they say "a raw diamond" when young or a "rare diamond" when older... Max is the most extreme example at the moment and in 10 years it will be much more appreciated then now..

Probably no driver changes now because they changed during the season 😁

The huge collective memory lapse that F1 fans and pundits have around pay drivers is amazing. Drives changed hands all the time in the 80s and 90s BECAUSE OF MONEY, driver talent was a very distant chance of a factor and more of a lucky roll of the dice! Our current stability is the outlier; NOT the norm! You guys remember a wet tunnel in 1981 but not the crazy “who is running this weekend” we used to ask nearly every single race…

RB has plenty of options for a new teammate for Max for 2024 and they need to buy out Sergio and exercise one of those options.

the minimum Perez needs to do is P2 in every race, that's the bare minimum! and since he's a street track expert, try winning those races which would give him about 5/6 wins!

Yes he can bounce back to finishing 100 pts away from Verstappen

Kinda sucks that Felipe hasn’t gotten a chance yet. I feel like a lot of times F2 drivers becoming reserve drivers is just a total dead end and they’re better off racing elsewhere until a seat opens

The real question is, do we want him to

Bounce back from a P2 season. Ya'll crazy.

No, Max did a demolition job on him!

Why is it Max Verstappen is not the perfect example of what can happen, if you let young talent into f1!

It’s so weird. He finished second yet he needs to bounce back? But yes he does need to bounce back.

Monaco broke Checo the way Hockenheim broke Seb

Damn...so Théo Pourchaire, 20 years old. F2 champion, career is over!

Perez preparing for his last year as a Red bull driver

1) no 2) yes

Checo will turn up at the first 2024 f1 race and think he will gve max a run for the championship.but max wil win by 15's and crush checo's hope

No. He was a mediocre driver at his peak and he's been a long way off that for a long time.

Can Perez bounce back? Short answer, No! 😊 TYVM!

Perez in that seat is so frustrating. The biggest waste of a front-running seat since Fisi

As a Mercedes man keeping Perez is great news.

Nope and Yes

How can Checo ever bounce back from second place in the world championship ...🤣😂🤣

why tf are they keeping him

If Logan gets resigned f1 will suffer, that guy sucks,,,

No. Perez is mentally cooked

Checo Peres is alwais News ....checo peres mesange : Hateme more .bye bye

I don’t now, I hope he does. I can’t remember a driver having a more disappointing season than him. Let everyone down.

Checo ran Max close again this year but for me he doesn't have the winning mentality and that's the difference. Hopefully Checo can prove me wrong however.

F1 is letting the world down, please get out of the US.. we are sick of pony shows, we want racing, not crap side show rubbish, the drivers deplore this.

Perez is an average ability driver, and from what I've read in the past, he is only in f1 because he brings sponsorship money with him. Give that car to someone who can actually challenge Verstappen, but Redbull won't do that.

I think F1 is entirely too wrapped up in what accomplishment at what age of the young guys. Steph Curry anyone?

No, no, NO. Not the will Perez be the next champion again. That subject has been beaten dead to a pulp. He also will not bounce back, there is nothing to bounce back to. He is just a mid-tier driver. He can race fast but not consistent

Get rid of Checo ⛳

Perez is driving 1 of 2 cars on the grid that can compete for a title. The 18 other cars on the grid in 2023 aren't competitive at all. Horrible year for F1. Ooof!!! 1 team won 21 races 😂😂😂 in 2023. To say F1 is competitive is a JOKE 🤡. F1 has to be fixed ASAP because everything about it is broken. 9 out of 10 teams that weren't even close to competitive in a race! Unacceptable!!!

No, Checo just doesn’t have it.

no interest whatsoever in watching a 1hr video on Perez or whatever but I do have the answer for your question "Can Sergio Perez bounce back in 2024": no way