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@kylixchi
@kylixchi Год назад
Thanks Paul for another great vid, on more tech info behind the scenes.
@JamesSocialCycling
@JamesSocialCycling Год назад
Nice looking wheels, pity, I’m still not liking hookless, being a bigger rider. Thanks, good video😊👍
@veganpotterthevegan
@veganpotterthevegan Год назад
Being a bigger rider, I'm riding bigger tires anyway. They ride significantly better with hookless rims. I look forward to the next 5 years. After that, all the best tires will be hookless compatible
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 Год назад
@@veganpotterthevegan Judging by the patents from Zipp for retrofitting hooks on hookless rims in 5 years there will be no hookless wheels. Specialized already realized that.
@manuelwenaud8231
@manuelwenaud8231 11 месяцев назад
Ça fait plaisir tant de compliments pour une petite boîte française ! Banzaï !
@peters8504
@peters8504 Год назад
I was considering the Corimas for my Look 765 but don’t feel comfortable with there hookless technology. Went with Reserve 40/44.
@DDai-qd8uk
@DDai-qd8uk 6 месяцев назад
Fantastic choice
@jtb52
@jtb52 Год назад
We’ve got a nice wheel builder around here Legend in Negrepelisse…and there’s a few others in the area..Corima are more seen on the serious French roadies and sportives. Not too many Sunday riders on those..of course lot of mavic around fitted as spec
@ciulabula1
@ciulabula1 Год назад
Congrats on your recent haircut, mate 💇 I'm a quite happy owner of theirs WS 47 DX, they stiff as hell and would perform much better on wider tyres that I currently have fitted (25mm) but I do not like their freehub engagement either the time it takes to engage pawls and the sound, there is significant free stroke followed by a sound. DT Swiss 240 are a way better in those regards.
@larisonjohnson
@larisonjohnson Год назад
Twin spoke setup looks sweet! Throwback to the old Race Lites. They look beautiful. Is the freehub silent? Now all they have to do is add hooks and they would be perfect.
@bikesavvy3654
@bikesavvy3654 Год назад
I’ve got several sets of Corima wheels. All rim brake range from 32mm to 55mm and a mix of tubular and clincher. Matched with the cork pads can’t wear them out
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
Very nice!
@yuva
@yuva Год назад
hey! what cork pads do you use? I tend to warp my carbon rims using the swiss stop carbon pads
@reecedawson6113
@reecedawson6113 Год назад
Would you ever do a maintenance or build video for a rider that rides a lot frequently. I ride at least 500km pretty much a week for work or training in nearly all conditions. Me and my bike shop are always talking about my bike. I do a lot of maintenance but probably not enough
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
Oh. So many options.
@philipbickerstaff7064
@philipbickerstaff7064 11 месяцев назад
Really informative talk. Interesting though didnt understand some of the comments. Not a wheel builder myself.
@Paddystyx
@Paddystyx Год назад
I was anxiously waiting on this video and now delighted that you have published it just before my Corima Essentia wheels goes on my Time ADH. You are correct about the lack of noise, I like that about them and yes I fine them very comfortably soaking up all the bumps.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
A great match I think.
@moobaz8675
@moobaz8675 Год назад
Great review. I've often wondered about these but following bad experiences with Mavics, I have just avoided them for no other reason than they're French. Daft I know. Anyway, in for a penny, in for a pound, I'm going to bite the bullet and get a set for my next build. Wish you were closer to Bath!
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
Thank you. I hope you enjoy them.
@julianhowell6351
@julianhowell6351 Год назад
Different factory, excellent reputation for wheelchair competitive wheels.
@julianhowell6351
@julianhowell6351 Год назад
Used the Essentia on Paris Roubaix challenge, tubeless with Victoria Corsa controls, superb. Excellent consumer service - need a uk distributer though.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
Thanks for sharing!
@JoeW71
@JoeW71 Год назад
Nice looking wheels. Who makes the Look carbon wheels and do you have an opinion about them? Being old, slow, and looking for comfort, would I be better served by riding alloy wheels? As always thanks for your videos. You have become my go to source for biking info.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
I am unsure on the look wheels on the 765. I’ll find out. I would be surprised if they are from the Tunisia factory. I’ll find out.
@JoeW71
@JoeW71 Год назад
@@Mapdec Thanks. Tunisia?
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
@@JoeW71 yes. Look have their own factory in Tunisia. I’m not sure the exact politics, of the French, Tunisian relationship though. I imagine it is history of colonialism, independence and trade deals
@veganpotterthevegan
@veganpotterthevegan Год назад
You want shallow wheels for comfort. Carbon or aluminum makes little difference(outside of deep wheels which are largely only available in Carbon) but few aluminum rims are terribly wide. HED Belgium Plus rims and Bontrager Paradigm wheels are both 25mm internally.
@markrushton1516
@markrushton1516 Год назад
Reynolds?
@brendangormley-e3x
@brendangormley-e3x Год назад
Can’t wait to see what you think of there top of the range wheels from corima with the carbon spokes.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
I am so intrigued.
@wfrx4783
@wfrx4783 Год назад
Might consider those for a ADHX 45 Gravel build. How's the tubeless setup? I've had zero Issues with DT Swiss + Pirelli combo, so I'm tempted to just stick with that as I know it works for me. But the Corimas are flippin' beautiful. Maybe put some Michelins on for the full french setup?
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
Nice. Yes. Set up was fine. No problems mounting tyres or inflating.
@edmundomoreira7158
@edmundomoreira7158 7 месяцев назад
Hello, i need your help! What brand can you recommend till 45 mm profile com good stilfness and low wheight until 1200 euros with some serius warranty? Thanks
@pauladams5673
@pauladams5673 2 месяца назад
According to Corima's website, there isn't a dealer for their bicycle wheels in the UK. Could Mapdec become a Corima dealer? Or will I have to buy my wheels in France 🇫🇷 and pay UK customs the VAT on my return?
@Mapdec
@Mapdec 2 месяца назад
We are kind of. Give us a call.
@MarrafaCycling
@MarrafaCycling Год назад
I bought the 500€ 33mm carbon wheelset ProX, Chinese manufacturer. Until now no complains only on the free hub has a very basic flow. But Comparing with does 1390€? Make sense the price/quality?
@MarrafaCycling
@MarrafaCycling Год назад
actually I saw exactly now that the price become 1251.00€ (promo)
@sankarpai
@sankarpai 15 дней назад
The difference is you can buy 2 more wheelsets for that price 😅 The stiffness feel and everything mentioned cannot be measured and is mostly subjective and business bias
@stjepantomislav363
@stjepantomislav363 6 месяцев назад
I was looking into buying these wheels, but according to Corima the system weight limit (rider + bike) for those is set to conservative 100 kg. This puts them out of my range, unfortunately.
@andrewblakesley4202
@andrewblakesley4202 Год назад
Great video
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
Thank you
@terrywalker7127
@terrywalker7127 Год назад
Wonder about available replacement parts? Don't think I want to go hook less yet. I think I will buy Fast-forward DT Raw 180
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
As a result of this review Corima are uploading all parts to the website and updating the pressure calc.
@ciprian7
@ciprian7 Год назад
What is the internal width? what are their recommendation for tires being hookless? would you recommend for road? Thank you
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
I address this at the end. 30mm would be no bother. 28mm brings issues.
@timhall7771
@timhall7771 Год назад
So would you choose these over the FFWDs? Or are you still doubtful about spares etc?
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
Corima list spares in the website. It ok, but not as easy as some. If I needed a duel purpose wheelset I would defo have these high on the list. I can’t think of a better cat 2 wheel that performs as well on the road.
@DR_1_1
@DR_1_1 6 месяцев назад
I'm curious how often you'd need to true your wheels riding 40 mm like that on trails without suspensions?
@Mapdec
@Mapdec 6 месяцев назад
If they are built well, probably not until a spoke or nipple actually breaks.
@make725daily1
@make725daily1 Год назад
Your video is exceptionally engaging! -- "Success thrives on unwavering dedication."
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
Wow, thank you!
@AkiraShiromizu
@AkiraShiromizu Год назад
Love the silent hub. Would these be using the same mechanics as the Onyx Vesper ones?
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
Oh. The freehub isn’t completely silent. Sorry if that wasn’t clear.
@paulvanreesch2493
@paulvanreesch2493 Год назад
Now, all we need is French groupset🇫🇷
@taxi9554
@taxi9554 Год назад
Mavic had it…too early with electronic 😢
@tinniswood2577
@tinniswood2577 Год назад
@@taxi9554 Yes, and before that they had a beautiful mechanical groupset used at pro level. Always wanted one back in the day.
@lioneldm5130
@lioneldm5130 Год назад
A new simplex...
@silitch
@silitch Год назад
Simplex drive chains, Stronglight cranksets, Mavic, center pull brakes, Maillard(one of the first easily changeable gears on a freewheel) were once the standard, giving campy some real competition…
@DR_1_1
@DR_1_1 6 месяцев назад
@@silitch Weren't Simplex the very first (commercially available) derailleur?
@bikerjk1205
@bikerjk1205 Год назад
Curious on your comment about not having Chinese wheel brands on your channel. You do know that many of the non-Chinese brands have their rims made in China/Taiwan, including FFWD who you promote?
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
For sure. We use Venn rims too, and I don’t have anything against Chinese manufacturing. I don’t really have any time for phantom Chinese brands that lack a level of accountability or traceability. It’s actually quite a good subject to discuss one day.
@MrSzwarz
@MrSzwarz Год назад
What about the rear hub and the mechanism? Whats system does Corima have?
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
There were some shots of it. Similar to DT ratchet.
@Kid_Ellipsis
@Kid_Ellipsis Год назад
Any idea when their new road wheels will become available?
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
I have been told March 2024
@brankododig1585
@brankododig1585 Год назад
Mavoc also makes theirs in France. The higher end of their wheels are quite premium for a decent price, a cut above my Chinese wheels.
@silitch
@silitch Год назад
What are the pros and cons of hookless rims?
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
no discernible pros in a road bike wheel. For off road you could argue resistance to rock strike, and support of bulging tyres.
@lopacinski_
@lopacinski_ Год назад
Would like to see the comparison to cadex 50 ultra wheels about stiffness ;)
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
Totally different wheels. These are really their dual purpose wheels. The Cadex 50 would compare better to the Corima MCC EVO 47 really.
@lopacinski_
@lopacinski_ Год назад
@@Mapdec In this circumstances i would like to see your review of cadex ;) there's not much, but seems to be one of stiffest and well made ;) Corima MCC EVO 47 is totally different class of the wheels due to their build :)
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
@@lopacinski_ should be the same. Carbon spokes, race focus etc. The essentia 40s in this vid are an all road and gravel wheelset. I doubt Giant would ever send us some Cadex wheels to test.
@ignus16
@ignus16 Год назад
they seem have very narrow rims for their road wheels - i think they all list a 26mm width. lost of other brands seem to have gone to ~30mm for road wheels, like the FFWD you have spoken about a few times..
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
Good observation. I would say they are average for the market. Probabaly best described as a bit conservative
@ignus16
@ignus16 Год назад
@@Mapdec maybe its a french thing :P Mavic's high end road wheels are all still very narrow as well
@mark13williams13
@mark13williams13 Год назад
They are way behind the times in terms of shape. There is a reason Astana Pro Team dropped them for HED.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
@@mark13williams13 I haven’t really seen their true road wheels to comment. Just these ‘all road / Gravel ‘ ones. I am hoping to see the road set at the show.
@mark13williams13
@mark13williams13 Год назад
@@Mapdecall their wheels appear to be 26mm wide. Seems a bit lazy to me from Corima. Why would you not design the Allroad set to be wider to better mate with wider tires for gravel??
@workshopninjathe1st
@workshopninjathe1st Год назад
Proprietary spokes - 90 degree twist to the aero section compared to “normal” CX rays.
@feedbackzaloop
@feedbackzaloop Год назад
Guess you have to buy straightpull and bend yourself
@veganpotterthevegan
@veganpotterthevegan Год назад
My DTs have proprietary spokes with flattened heads. I bought CX Rays due to a couple broken spokes and ground the heads flat. Saved a LOT of money per spoke😅
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
I forgot they did that. Can’t remember the wheelset. Dicut something.
@markrushton1516
@markrushton1516 Год назад
Just take my money!
@toite3x3ninjah
@toite3x3ninjah 9 месяцев назад
Dream wheels
@johndef5075
@johndef5075 Год назад
I keep forgetting. What are the advantages of a hookless rim?
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
I’ll let you know if I ever find one.
@Michaelholds7769
@Michaelholds7769 Год назад
The manual says you can’t use CO2, compressors or hi flow pumps. Just an fyi for the viewers.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
Thanks. This is true of quite a few brands.
@r.davies2702
@r.davies2702 Год назад
Hmmm, with so many established brands. DT Swiss, Hunt etc, I think it's difficult for a new brand to become established. I personally, would opt for a more well known brand. Maybe I'm wrong. Seems like a solid wheelset though.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
They are well established brand. Just small and niche.
@steppings5645
@steppings5645 Год назад
Corima go back to the 1960's. Hunt go way back to 2015. 😂
@r.davies2702
@r.davies2702 Год назад
@@steppings5645 Excuse me for not being French.
@markrushton1516
@markrushton1516 Год назад
They never pushed their products unlike other brands. Suspect they aren't a big production. They seem to concentrate on quality
@jasrod2012
@jasrod2012 7 месяцев назад
No Chinese shilling over here. Nice to see something different.
@tos1x
@tos1x Год назад
French Quality - is that a pro or con?
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
If they make bikes as well as they make cheese
@richardstephenson5489
@richardstephenson5489 Год назад
They were doing so well, then you said hookless and that’s ruined them. Won’t even consider them now.
@wacharaiamsakun1216
@wacharaiamsakun1216 3 месяца назад
Where are the expensive Italian brands made? In the east of course.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec 3 месяца назад
Not always. Basso has an Italian factory. These wheels are made in France.
@feedbackzaloop
@feedbackzaloop Год назад
Ah yes, pulling spoke is backed up by a trailing spoke at acute angle so that together they could rip the flange apart. But incomplete fiber wetening is the real party pooper. Even if the insides are packed properly, it makes me suspicious. I would call these gravel racing wheels. For endurance Mavic Cosmic SL should fit better, for near identical price and similar construction. But narrower and bit higher. Also having well established spokes, which in last resort case can be replaced by generic ones. Also very interesting if the freehubs are interchangeable between these two
@Keksator
@Keksator Год назад
huh, didnt knew they are making hookless
@ciprian7
@ciprian7 Год назад
Ni Chinese stuff on this site? how about the Farsport wheels and other wheels from China you have featured on this site? nothing against good quality Chinese made products but is comical when make a statement like that and then you compare the Corima with the benchmark Farsports, see where i am going with this? i am a big supporter and like what you been doing to build the channel but please keep it real , thank you for the video
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
FarSports? I benchmark these to the FFWD Ryot. The only time we mention farsports is on the Time build we did where the rider bought their own wheels. I have an inbox full of Chinese brands wanting to send me stuff. I’m just not interested. They are plastered all over RU-vid, I will discuss them when they come into my workshop for service. If you see, Superteam are the brand of the moment and every RU-vidr has a free set. I don’t really want anything to do with it. I couldn’t recommend buying anything that expensive when you can’t just send it back and you have no protection with consumer rights act.
@andycampbell8766
@andycampbell8766 Год назад
Gravel?
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
I tried
@szilardgodi9650
@szilardgodi9650 Год назад
For this price I would be unhappy with the pinholes on the rim’s surface.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
Umm. Where are you seeing those. As I understand pinholes they show us as golf ball like dimples.
@GrzechuPraszka
@GrzechuPraszka 9 месяцев назад
no hub sound? rly?
@Mapdec
@Mapdec 9 месяцев назад
Never
@christopherhood9241
@christopherhood9241 Год назад
at last ... a quite freehub.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
It’s not completely silent.
@christopherhood9241
@christopherhood9241 Год назад
@@Mapdec sure but compared to some you have had .....
@todormashev5337
@todormashev5337 Год назад
IMO, it is pointless to make any positive review on hook less rims for a road bike!
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
Yeah. Anything under 30mm tyre. Totally agree.
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 Год назад
These are hookless wheels so no thanks
@sankarpai
@sankarpai 15 дней назад
When Corima costs 2-2500$, atleast they are better than 600-800$ chinese wheels. Honestly i dont think they are!! Also whats with no chinese products in channel comment?
@Mapdec
@Mapdec 15 дней назад
It’s not so much anti Chinese as anti accountability. Many of those brands are not accountable to local consumer laws. We are a business and as such have responsibilities.
@sankarpai
@sankarpai 15 дней назад
@@Mapdec Which brands are accountable? I have seen main stream.bramds not replacing parts for months. Its not specific to any country. Also business statement from you, are you implying you are biased?
@Mapdec
@Mapdec 15 дней назад
@@sankarpai brands that have UK or EU distribution. An official point of contact, a named director etc. One that if you had a problem with a product there is clearly someone accountable to local consumer law. I am very biased in that regard.
@sankarpai
@sankarpai 15 дней назад
@@Mapdec We have had shimano not respond to genuine warranty requests while Ltwoo had send replacement parts without asking many questions as well. Its definitely not country specific sir
@lazlo2511
@lazlo2511 Год назад
As soon as you said hookless I switched off! That’s a failed standard and it will evaporate just looks Press Fit!
@rafaeldegiacomoaraujo8778
@rafaeldegiacomoaraujo8778 Год назад
I get the impression that this is an overreaction we are going through at the moment.
@Kid_Ellipsis
@Kid_Ellipsis Год назад
People seem confused about the forces governing how a tire bead seals against a rim bed. Hookless works - don’t believe the internet hype.
@getur99
@getur99 Год назад
Hookless work on motor vehicles but a tyre machine is needed to de-bead the tyre from the rim. Not your thumbs
@michaelviglianco6121
@michaelviglianco6121 Год назад
Yep. Provides no benefits to the user and only negatives. I'm surprised they were able to spin it such that some see it any differently
@Kid_Ellipsis
@Kid_Ellipsis Год назад
Hooked rims were designed for folding bead tires with inner tubes and the additional complications from a heat cycling brake surface on the other side of the rim wall. The main issue currently is with consumer knowledge of tire compatibility (width not brand) and appropriate pressures.
@RB-lj7ge
@RB-lj7ge Год назад
Lost me at hookless
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Год назад
well done for making it that far...
@Robinators
@Robinators 5 месяцев назад
They could be made in France, but still made by chinese guy.. 2x the price because of country...
@Mapdec
@Mapdec 5 месяцев назад
Are they?
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