Can the New York Islanders Compete with the Florida Panthers?

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The New York Islanders made the playoffs, but there is a big gap between the Isles and the two teams in the Stanley Cup Finals, the Florida Panthers and Edmonton Oilers. We focus on the Panthers and discuss what the Isles need to do to compete with Florida and become legitimate Cup contenders.
Plus we update Isaiah George's situation as his career in juniors came to an end last week with London's heartbreaking loss in the Memorial Cup. We discuss his skills and how far off he is from making the NHL on today's show.
And we break down Ruslan Iskhakov's season and what his future with the Isles would be IF Lou Lamoriello re-signs him to a new deal this offseason.
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@jimerrigo7142 3 месяца назад

i do not think you are going to get many people that are interested in this team until Lou and son are dismissed. The game has passed them by, how do you have an 82 year old run any business. This team will stink for the next 3 years, no first rounders for the last 4 years, thanks to Lou. He signs d-men to long term deals and never addressed the lack of offense, this guy stinks as a GM, the owners are not very smart for keeping this old man around

@LockedOnIslanders 3 месяца назад

He's made his share of mistakes, jimerrigo7142, I totally agree. I hope he realizes changes are needed but Lou seems set in his ways. Ownership seems ok with Lou, but most fans are not. Thanks for the comment.

@jaktripz64 3 месяца назад

Jimerrigo, you are 💯!! Losing fan base, and likely season ticket holders as well! It's SO disconcerting, especially around this time when it seems EVERYBODY but us is making moves with QUALITY players and EVEN quality up and comers! We can't even discover those! Maybe keep Roy, but get rid of the rest of these loser assts asap. We are a galaxy away from the Cats! PERIOD!!!!

@fleetdreams33 3 месяца назад

Just a reminder, FIRE LOU LAMORIELLO AND HIS SON!

@LockedOnIslanders 3 месяца назад

If it was up to me, it would have happened already. Thanks for the comment, fleetdreams33.

@fleetdreams33 3 месяца назад

@@LockedOnIslanders Gil keep up the great work.... It's just a reminder, I do the same on the neversaydie podcast too. Obviously Grumpy luvs it

@max2238 3 месяца назад

Fire Lou.. than we can talk hockey, otherwise waist of time....

@LockedOnIslanders 3 месяца назад

Lou has made his share of mistakes and I don't agree with his approach. I think ownership should have moved on from him, but he wants to win now and I guess ownership does, too. Thanks for the comment, Max.

@raymondhenry5379 3 месяца назад

To compete you have to build similar to your competitors, Gil you mentioned oilers, an extreme difference than the islanders, the reality is it’s going to take years to rebuild retool, and a smart General Manager, thank you Gil, spot on !!!

@LockedOnIslanders 3 месяца назад

I hope Lou changes course, but I'll believe it when I see it. Thanks for the comment, Raymond.

@heidiaunins7306 3 месяца назад

This team NEEDS to make trades over the off season and next few years to come! If Lou doesn’t, he’s held accountable. It then will be time for him to step down if the Isles don’t vastly improve Roy has done a lot since his coaching position as of January 20 of this year yet it’s a team effort plus consistent play and goal tending

@LockedOnIslanders 3 месяца назад

For sure, heidiaunins7306. Lou needs to move salary out and help this team get younger, faster, and more skilled. The question is whether he can and will get it done. He has to overcome some bad contracts and NTCs. Thanks for the comment.

@bobhenry6159 3 месяца назад

Not a chance Gil, not a chance. We were barely competitive with Carolina.

@LockedOnIslanders 3 месяца назад

Not right now, Bob. The Isles need to improve in a lot of areas. Thanks for the comment.

@frankhannon8001 3 месяца назад

Hi Gil, sorry 😣 I have not put your show on because hockey 🏒 is over for me. Even tho my second team in hockey 🥅 are the Florida panthers 🐆 I am rooting for the panthers 🐆 in the Stanley cup 🎉 I did go to a panther game this year and last year. A school friend Mike, his brother in law ownes the panthers 🐆 Vinny viola. Mike lives up by coopers town ny and flying to Florida tomorrow Thursday to watch the games at the sunrise arena. Sunday leaving for San Diego California with scotty and the Nypd baseball team. We have a tournament there! If i don’t get back on have a happy Father’s Day!!!

@LockedOnIslanders 3 месяца назад

Thanks, Frank. Hope you get a chance to listen to or watch the show. I am also rooting for the Panthers, Nice that your friend's brother in law owns the team. Enjoy San Diego, it's a lovely city. Happy Father's Day to you as well. LGI.

@raymondhenry5379 3 месяца назад

@LockedOnIslanders 3 месяца назад

Fingers crossed that Lou does what it takes to compete. I'll believe it when I see it. Thanks for the comment, Raymond.

@kenduffy5397 3 месяца назад

I don’t think it’s fair to put Sam Reinhart (who was never played like this until his UFA year) in the same category as Matthew Tkachuk. Carter Verhaeghe (clutch player) and Aleksander Barkov. I have no idea what people are watching? Gustav Forsling is easily a top 5 (I personally think he’s a top 3) his defensive fundamentals are off the charts and not only is he defensively gifted, but his hockey IQ is off the charts! He’s also very offensive minded and that’s what separates him apart from other top defensive defensemen. He’s an elite defenseman with elite offensive skills and unfortunately, he doesn’t get enough credit for being an elite offensive defenseman because he never gets caught pinching in and yet pinches, but at the correct times He’s also as clutch as Hell! He’s so underrated it’s criminal!

@LockedOnIslanders 3 месяца назад

Forsling is definitely underrated. Thanks for the comments, Ken. Not sure why this got posted twice.

@darrellbevacqua3871 3 месяца назад

We couldn't compete with Carolina. Florida is in a different stratosphere. LGI

@LockedOnIslanders 3 месяца назад

Agreed, Darrell. I wish it wasn't so. Thanks for the comment.

@Duurston 3 месяца назад

Very far off.

@LockedOnIslanders 3 месяца назад

Sadly, Durrston. Thanks for the comment.

@henryhunter8910 3 месяца назад

Mr. Martin who's this Russian that the Islanders signed

@LockedOnIslanders 3 месяца назад

Maxim Tsyplakov. 30 goal scorer last year in the KHL. Talked about him on the show for 2-3 episodes a couple of weeks ago. We'll see what he can do in the NHL. Thanks for the comment, henryhunter8910.

@kenduffy5397 3 месяца назад

I don’t think it’s fair to put Sam Reinhart (who has never played this great until his UFA year) in the same category as Matthew Tkachuk. Carter Verhaeghe (clutch player) and Aleksander Barkov. I have no idea what people are watching? Forsling is easily a top 5 (I think he’s a top 2) defenseman. His defense fundamentals are off the charts and not only is he defensively gifted, but his hockey IQ is amazing and that’s what makes him a special professional player. He’s an elite defenseman with elite offensive skills. He doesn’t get enough credit for being an elite offensive defenseman, because he never gets caught pinching in, and yet pinches, but at the correct time. He’s also as clutch as Hell! He’s so underrated it’s criminal.

@LockedOnIslanders 3 месяца назад

Agree on your assessment of the Panthers players, Ken. Yes, Forsling doesn't get enough credit for his all around game. We'll see if Florida can win their first Cup. Should be a good series. Thanks for the comment.

@henryhunter8910 3 месяца назад

Hello Mr. Martin, I hope you are doing great luv the show Ok I know the Isles stars aren't the league stars, but I think at a time B. Nelson n M. Barzal isn't very far away from Edmontons top 2 stars it's the supporting cast that's better

@LockedOnIslanders 3 месяца назад

Agree, 100 percent, henryhunter8910. Depth is a big problem for the Isles, especially on offense. Thanks for the comments and so glad you enjoy the show. I appreciate the kind words. LGI.

@barriem5318 3 месяца назад

Isles are nowhere near competing with Florida. Isles are too old and too slow. Trade some top players for draft picks. We need youth and speed. Let's rebuild now. I don't want to finish in the basement for 5 seasons or more just to get some good draft picks. I would trade just about any player that they could get some first round draft picks for. One of the goalies, Anders Lee, Brock Nelsen, Palmieri, maybe even Barzal. Tell the fans we're rebuilding. Lou has to go immediately too. And we need accountability and tough coaching. If your effort is weak, you go to Bridgeport for a month. Look at John Tortorella at end of regular season with flyers, he made his captain a healthy scratch to send a message. I'm starting to wonder if the Isles organization has allowed a country club setting to take hold in the locker room.

@LockedOnIslanders 3 месяца назад

The country club atmosphere is a criticism leveled at the organization. I think the fans would tolerate a rebuild if ownership explained it properly, but the owners don't want to do that. What you say makes sense, but it won't happen as long as Lou is GM, he doesn't believe in rebuilding. Thanks for the comment, barriem5318.

@patriciabeecher72 3 месяца назад

Florida is a very good Team and could never compete with them in a series. They have sand paper guys,something we don’t have.

@LockedOnIslanders 3 месяца назад

I did mention physicality and the Isles need more of it. Depth scoring and top end scoring also come to mind. Thanks for the comment, Patricia, always good to hear from you.

@cldbrbn6070 3 месяца назад

I know I’m in the online minority (and I recognize they are a business that needs to generate excitement in the fan base), but I think this team is closer to being the Trotz style conference finals team than trying to catch up to the elites. And I do think Lou pulled off a miracle starting with Garth’s contracts and losing Tavares and making them competitive in all but one covid impacted season. Trotz had it right - we need an identity. Roy needs to give us a new one and Lou can adjust at the margins. Find diamonds in the rough. The dream of landing elite free agents is a dream. No top FA has EVER come here. We are the underdogs!!

@LockedOnIslanders 3 месяца назад

No top FA has ever signed with the Isles as I mentioned on the show. I hope Lou can do something to get this team back to where they were 3 or 4 years ago. Not easy to find diamonds in the rough, but it can be done. Thanks for the comment, cldbrbn6070.

@25yrsotj 3 месяца назад

Morning Gil, you nailed it but besides the obvious problems of Lou and son being the GM’s and having dealt away the future for years, there’s the “ who wants to wait 10 years “ for an actual team that could contend for a cup ? Yes I saw the 80’s live and what’s happened since then has been more than disappointing, my only other team that I’ve not seen win the big one has been the Jets ! The fix starts with the owners and like I’ve said previously that it’s all about $$$ for them and unless that changes the team will be mediocre and fans are going to be disgusted and find other teams and sports to watch.

@LockedOnIslanders 3 месяца назад

The owners are ultimately responsible. Lou is going in one direction and it seems to be a dead end. Ownership seems OK with it. Thanks for the comment, 25yrsotj. Always good to hear from you.

@eastudio-K 3 месяца назад

It’s not Lou’s fault some of the players didn’t perform as well as expected, I would have bet on the players we had as well, it just didn’t work out, there is no guarantee a team will win. Thank you Lou for bringing in Roy I’m optimistic we will adjust as best as possible

@LockedOnIslanders 3 месяца назад

I hope Roy will help the situation better. Lou made a good move in hiring him. Fingers crossed Lou makes the moves needed to bring in players that ideally fit Roy's system. Thanks for the comment.

@barriem5318 3 месяца назад

Actually it is Lou's fault. All the other top teams in the east made moves before the trade deadline in March. All of them except the Isles. And the next day Lou told the media that he was happy with his roster. Utter failure on his part. No surprise the Isles were useless in the playoffs.

@eastudio-K 3 месяца назад

@@barriem5318 I’ve been waiting for a cup since the eighties so Lou finally brought some respect to this team, general manager of the year in 2020, bringing in trotz, trotz came because of Lou, we went to semifinals twice so has been much better in my view than recent history, I don’t blame him for believing in our players, I was rooting for them

@barriem5318 3 месяца назад

@@eastudio-K Garth Snow did more for the team than Lou. Lou has overseen a huge disaster. We went to game 6 in 2020 and game 7 in 2021 eastern finals both times against Tampa, who went on to win cup. We were arguably one or two player acquisitions from a cup finals. And we were building a new arena. We had Trotz fresh from the cup with capitals. All that momentum pissed away. We miss the playoffs following year. Lou does basically nothing in offseason. New arena opens. Somehow Trotz leaves and we keep Lane Lambert? The best coach in league leaves and we make Lambert a rookie head coach. Been downhill from there. Lou doesn't do enough. We should have fired his a$$ and picked up Kyle Dubas when Toronto fired him. That's a real GM. What did he do when he got to Penguins, did a complicated three way trade to move Erik Karlsson in the year he won the Norris trophy. Lou is useless at this point.

@barriem5318 3 месяца назад

Back in 2015 Garth Snow traded defenseman Griffin Reinhart to Oilers for a 1st round pick and a 2nd round pick. Snow then flipped that 2nd round pick to Tampa for a 1st round pick. Those draft pick moves by Snow brought the islanders Barzal and Beauvillier. You think Lou is capable of that kind of trade magic?

@henryhunter8910 3 месяца назад

I feel I.Grorge maybe 2 to 3 years away he's gotta get stronger n tougher

@LockedOnIslanders 3 месяца назад

Sounds about right. I hope he can learn the pro game and develop in those areas. Thanks for the comment.

@Danfromoverthere 3 месяца назад

If Barzal gets a top winger I think that line of Hovart and Barzal and ? Can be an elite line. I think Barzal has the potential to be as good as those guys on Florida. The rest of the islanders team as far as offense drags these guys down (aside from Nelson) and almost makes it as if the islanders have no stars. But isles have no depth after them Barzal and Hobart are very good to great then next level is Nelson. But Florida has 4 lines all humming and damn Florida plays such a great game in their zone and their forecheck in the offensive zone gets those fast teams to slow down from exhaustion. Kind of like the islanders a few yrs ago that beat the Panthers and what did Florida do that the islanders didn’t - they traded, signed and drafted a team to go further as the islanders did the opposite. Drives me crazy, the teams that the islanders were ahead of only a few seasons ago are now miles ahead of the islanders. Ugh!!!

@jeremy.fordavon4030 3 месяца назад

Ehlers along side Barzal and Horvat would be a very offensive minded line. I think Lou would be more inclined to add a DeBrusk type of player.

@Danfromoverthere 3 месяца назад

@@jeremy.fordavon4030 I can see that or knowing Lou he’ll sign Parise to a 6 year contract no trade clause being he’s only 39 years old

@LockedOnIslanders 3 месяца назад

Yeah, Lou didn't keep improving the team after the two long playoff runs. If you're not improving and other teams are, you fall behind. Thanks for the comment, Danfromoverthere.

@LockedOnIslanders 3 месяца назад

Very possible. We'll see what he does, if anything. Thanks for the comment.

@cynthiastines8918 3 месяца назад

Good 🌄, Gil, how are you? If The Islanders are going to compete with The Eastern Conference Champion Florida Panthers, THEY HAVE TO WORK, AND WORK HARD. They also need to get all the necessary players on order to do so. Isiah George, keep the kid in Bridgeport, where he'll mature not only physically, but mentally, too. He also play smart 🏒, too. If The Islanders are smart, they'll sign. Ishkakov. HAPPY 🎂 KIPRASAUF. He helped The Islanders beat Colorado, by then Patrick Roy might have 🤙 it a career. Hear from you later. Gil, and LET'S GO ISLANDERS.

@LockedOnIslanders 3 месяца назад

Hard work is always important and the Isles need it for sure. I hope George emerges at Bridgeport next season. Have a great day and thanks as always for the comment. LGI.

@cynthiastines8918 3 месяца назад

@@LockedOnIslanders You're welcome, Gil. Hear from you tomorrow.

@kenduffy5397 3 месяца назад

Yes, with a few right moves, this team can be right where the Florida Panthers 🐆 are. (Who I’m rooting for). I could make an argument with just one or two right moves and Ilya Sorokin returns to form (I do not doubt that he will) our team could very well be right where Florida is right now.

@LockedOnIslanders 3 месяца назад

I like the optimism Ken. I hope it happens. Waiting for Lou to make the moves he seems to be leading up to. Sorokin returning to form is huge for this team. Thanks for the comments, Ken.

@kenduffy5397 3 месяца назад

@@LockedOnIslanders Yeah, Sorokin turning back to form is necessary. (He’s going to have his off nights as every goalie does). I do agree with you, that we can’t wear him out and I think Coach Roy will manage his minutes much better. This way both goalies should be fresh for the playoffs. Thanks, Gil

@Danfromoverthere 3 месяца назад

Fasching on the second line tells you right there what type of roster the isles have offensively. Have a great day and thank you again for a great video on Locked on Islanders. I look forward to it every morning!

@jeremy.fordavon4030 3 месяца назад

Fasching should be on the "4th line" with McLean and Engvall. That would be a competitive line, with good speed and decent at both ends of the ice. Maybe not the same chemistry (yet) as the CCCCMM line, but their youth (less miles on their bodies) should keep them healthy most of the year.

@Danfromoverthere 3 месяца назад

@@jeremy.fordavon4030 Engval should not see the ice. No way not even on the fourth line he is scared of the boards. He should be the 13th offensive guy where he slots in if someone is hurt. There’s plenty of other options than that sissy to put on the fourth line.

@LockedOnIslanders 3 месяца назад

Thanks, Danfromoverthere. Yeah, Fasching and Cizikas on the top two lines doesn't say much for the offensive firepower of this team. Thanks for the comment.

@LockedOnIslanders 3 месяца назад

Fasching on the fourth line makes sense. I could also see him on the third line with the right linemates. Your trio makes sense assuming Lou doesn't re-sign Clutter or Martin. Thanks for the comment, jeremy.fordavon4030.

@stevenbauer4799 3 месяца назад

NO isles can't compete with the likes of cats or oil. They have high end skill plus fla's commitment to shutting teams down makes them a hard team to beat. And how can isles compete against that with no assets or cap room to do anything plus no first for 4 years? Fla was built with high picks like ekblad and barkov. Throw in some shrewd trades for reinhart, tkachuk, bennett, plus f a signings like bobrovsky, verhaghe (remember him louzer?). Combine that skill/talent with a coaches all buy in work ethic and that's why cats are in finals second straight season. A nice no income tax state too makes players want to play for fla. gm zito gambled fla's future away for the win now approach and it worked. Oil's job was easy. Just tank for the high picks until you hit the jackpot. And oil didn't even tank in the drafts they got mcd and leon. And after nearly 10 years of filling out the roster around those two stars oil are finally in the finals. If isles would have had that kind of top end talent with the work ethic of trotz they could have won a cup. Lack of top end skill showed against tb in two straight cf and took isles down. Now that ship has sailed. Isles have to get in on some high lottery picks, assets to make moves, and get lots of cap relief (plus a 21st century gm) and begin a painful re-build if they ever hope to be where cats and oil are. btw knights mem. cup loss was not heartbreaking to me. I was glad to see p0s dale hunter go down. And that loss never happens if knights don't foolishly ice the puck with about a minute to go. Then another lame flip out attempt cost them when d man knocked puck down and got the shot on goal to which spirit knocked a loose puck home for game winner. Then in typical knight fashion they cried that the goalie was interfered with when replays clearly show the puck was loose because simpson didn't cover it up so tuff shit london you fkd up last minute and lost. And the look on smug loser hunter's face as they lost-priceless. Good times indeed. And george is ahl bound for sure. After seeing him at mem. cup nothing really stood out. Had 1 a and was on ice for a couple of goals getting limited ice time in close games when knights needed more offense. I could see george as a second pair d man teamed with an offensive guy who takes care of the back end with his skating ability. That's about his ceiling.

@raymondhenry5379 3 месяца назад

10 years, yes, that’s what it would take to build up to the Oilers or Panthers status

@stevenbauer4799 3 месяца назад

@@raymondhenry5379 10 years at least. The longer louzer stays the longer the re-build.

@LockedOnIslanders 3 месяца назад

Agree re: the top end talent and the shrewd moves by the GM. The Isles lack both. I totally get why you were happy Dale Hunter lost. It was heartbreaking for George and the Knights, though. I think most experts view George as a third pair guy, with 2nd pair being his ceiling as you said. Thanks for the comment, Steven.

@LockedOnIslanders 3 месяца назад

With Lou, maybe longer. Thanks Raymond.

@LockedOnIslanders 3 месяца назад

Exactly, Steven.