Can The Rogue Tempt Me Away From the Chief? 

Yeah I've only heard good things about the piggy back shocks.

Thanks very much 2many! Me too!

Yeah the tractor seat sits you up a little taller giving more room for your legs. Very useful and comfortable for riders our size.

Thanks TIFO! Agreed!

Nice ride! Thank you!

Thanks very much Damian! Actually is it Damian or Damien? I would love to test ride the Challenger, might see if I can make that happen. ;)

@@BikesILike it’s Damian. Can’t wait to see your thoughts :)

@@roadtripperozadventures Phew! Got it right first time. 😁

Thanks Tim you too!

Thanks Jason! Motorbikes really are a personal and individually specific thing as you've again highlighted. What doesn't work for may very well work for you and vice versa. I might have to make a video on that. We don't get the 60 range in Australia only the 1133cc models but I have seen the 6th gear and 5th gears are equal in both models. The 5 speed wouldn't worry me at all if the top gear final drive ratios are the same. Good move to save yourself a few dollars and sounds like you've got the HP up to a more than satisfactory range too, well done! I've been taking a good look at the Scout range and I've tended to skip over the Scout Bobber believing the Rogue and Twenty would be a better fit for someone my height 6'1" but I spent a fair bit of time sitting on the Scout Bobber in the dealership last week and I really really like it. No demo available unfortunately but I like it as much as the Chief Dark Horse, actually maybe even a little more. If the Chief order drags on I could easily see myself switching to the Scout Bobber. Another bike I've tended to dismiss is the base Scout. But after looking at it's dimensions it should be the most comfortable for taller riders of all the Scout range. They do have a demo Scout here, might try and test ride it this week.

@@BikesILike Scout bobber is a fantastic bike. You can add the flat saddle and get the controls forward with an adapter from Indian. I recommend an exhaust and tune for a little more grunt. I wanted a Stryker red, but none were in stock and metallic black wasn’t my 1st choice until I put it in the sun, it’s gorgeous. People stop and look at these bikes because they are just beautiful, the premium is their appearance and frankly Harley is the only company that can match the artistic flow of the metal with bits of modern - I think, especially with bobber, it’s classic and modern at the same time.

Me too. I love my Rouge

The Sportster S and Pan America hit a sweet spot in the market for performance/price comparisons with other manufacturers with similar features. Euro bikes are almost dollar for dollar for features and performance. Japanese bikes are about 10% cheaper. Indian hit the mark with the scout in 2015 but never upgraded the heart of it, leaving it falling behind. They did great with the Challenger in 2019. The entire lineup modernised in 2020 except for the Scout, weird choice.

Thanks Guy! 👍

I reckon there has to be an update soon. It won't take much as it's still a very good platform, just needs some refinement.

Thanks SJF and you're right! I should've mentioned that. My inside leg (from ground to groin with my riding boots on) is 34" (87 cm). Here's my Do I Fit video of the Scout Bobber Twenty. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-x7h_7uB01Ig.html You'll see a 6'4" rider in that video seated on the bike with similar proportions to you. I mistakenly used the term inseam in my earlier videos but it's actually the inside leg measurement. Inseam is measured from your ankle to groin for trousers etc.

@@BikesILike No need to apologize! Thank you for answering my question. WIth riding boots on It's 35" for me, so I hate to say it but it looks like the Bobber 20 is too small for me. * sad face *

Sounds like you need an Africa Twin!

We get the same deal in Ballarat. If we get a lot of rain in winter, rim busting potholes appear everywhere. I could buy that red Scout Bobber Twenty on that picture alone. 😁

@@mickleblade seriously man. I’ve got a v strom 650 but an Africa twin may be needed unless the rain stops!

@@Labgorilla there will still be a hosepipe ban in the summer!

Thanks Ross!

Thanks John! Yes! I feel myself getting stronger day by day. Currently researching vitamins, minerals and foods to try and stop or at least greatly reduce the calcium build up in my arteries. That's my challenge now. Once I run my findings past my cardiologist next month I'll make a video on my long term health plan. ;)

@@BikesILike Sounds like a great plan! I have been doing health research for myself as well. And preparing for the motorcycle riding season here in New York!

@@johnpflug1567 Great to hear John. Riding in New York... Stay safe!

Did you ever get a chance to ride the Scout with the raised floating seat (which came on the 2020 Twenty)? If so, how does that seating position compare to the stock Rogue?

@@spacecoastz4026 I have not. But the Rogue seat is very, very comfortable. It's way more comfortable than the stock Chief Darkhorse.

I agree Farracuda. The real test is how a vehicle design fares over time and the Chief is standing up beautifully.

Thanks Paul! I have not yet had the opportunity but I would love to test ride the Speedmaster. It's just not a possibility where I live as the local dealer doesn't keep demo bikes. Who knows, if I'd been able to test ride one, my deposit might be sitting on a Speedmaster right now. ;)

No but I did have a good sit on one recently at the dealership and I really liked the riding position. They don't have a demo Scout Bobber unfortunately, I really want to ride one!

Rocket 3 would be a beast Brito! I too would like to test ride Challenger!

Yeah body proportions do make a big difference Mark, I can see how that would be the case. Being taller and wider I find narrower seats don't offer the support I need.

I really enjoyed my time on the Sportster S test ride, that's another bike I could easily own.

Where the Scout Bobber has alloy wheels with higher profile tyres, the Scout Bobber Twenty has spoked wheels with higher profile tyres. The Scout Bobber also has mini apes instead of the Scout Bobber's lower handlebars and the Scout Bobber Twenty also originally came with the 1920 seat but has now switched to the same seat of the Scout Bobber. The Rogue has the same mini apes of the Twenty but has a different seat to both the Scout Bobber and Scout Bobber Twenty. The Rogue also has a larger front wheel at 19" with a lower profile tyre and a front fairing and screen. The base model Scout differs from the other models with it's own unique mudguards/fenders, seat, swept back handlebars and wheels. Other than those changes everything else is the same. Engine, brakes, suspension etc.

None here yet. Patiently waiting for them to arrive in the country but it doesn't seem to be a priority for Indian. I think they're ensuring the American market has all it needs first. A Sport Chief is a possibility for me. :)

BTW, I don't want the chief because it's too heavy for my taste.

I think that's a good move Erick! There's got to be coming coming soon.

Fair enough. The most important thing is what is right for you. ;)

That's a question I can't answer personally. I haven't noticed engine heat from either the Chief or the Scout on my test rides but I haven't ridden them on really hot days. Being taller my legs are also further away from the engine when I'm at a feet down position so that's also something to consider. If you're shorter, your legs will be closer to the engine when in the feet down position.

@@BikesILike true, I’m 5’10 but I’m hoping the rear cylinder shut off will help with that. Just concerned about preignition and other heat related issues.

@@shaunwatts6114 Hopefully someone who's owned one for a while can answer that question.

I get that. I do still wonder if the Scout Bobber would be a good choice for me.

At 5'7" I reckon you're going to be pretty comfortable on all of the Scout range. The question is, what sort of riding do you like to do? Are you looking for a more sporting feel or a more cruisey feel... or something in between?

@@BikesILike cruise

@@rjh2772 If you're looking for a nice relaxed, comfortable cruising experience I'd recommend the Scout. Watch my Scout test ride video to see how that went. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-W5mWtOF63eY.html

Most definitely the Rogue

I keep telling myself I need to learn the Harley naming convention... but it never happens 😁

I had to look that up 😁

I would love to test ride the Chieftain, it's on my list!