Can The SLOWEST New Toyota Supra Defeat Three of The FASTEST Iconic Cars From The Eighties? 

It's either age, loss of horsepower or a driver issue, but the 944 Turbo originally clocked in at 13.9sec (0-60 5.5sec) and the BMW M5 14.6 secs (0-60 6.3sec) back in the day.

First car I ever drove was my dad's 944. They will ALWAYS have a special place in my heart.

I would have liked to have seen an 87 Buick GN against the Supra.

That was a fun video. I would love to see your vintage sports cars against a modern Camry/Accord or even a minivan.

Since you have a 944 on hand, it would be really interesting to do a comparo with a GR86. On paper, they are very similar in terms of size, weight, and power.

I don't think that's the fastest version of the 944 Turbo, that looks like an 87 version, or at least the wheels are from an 87; the pre-1989 versions only had 217 HP, but the Turbo S, and the 89s had 247. I had a 1989 Porsche 944 Turbo, and LOVED that car. Eventually took it to PowerHaus in Arizona, and had a 2.8 conversion done, with a hybrid K27 turbo and other work. Ended up with 500+ RWHP and 520 Ft/lbs torque at 1.2 bar boost. IT handled incredibly well, and for its day was stinking fast after those mods, but wouldn't even rate these days. My car ended up being featured in Excellence magazine, here in the USA. Miss that car...

So according to your logic, an 18,3sec M535i should race along the new fast contender, and not the 17,8sec 944...Εven when the latter could run again with full boost...

Brought back memories. I had a 951 for 23 years and you definately have to learn how to drive it fast at low speeds. On bost it wasa flyer. The 535is was and is a great car as well. In ts day it would beat Camaros and Firebirds, However the 951 was a high spead champ eating Mustangs, 911s, C4 Corvettes, etc. Thanks!

Loved the video but I think a modern camry would beat the 3 80s vehicles Loved the music too

Fun video guys . I had a 87 944 turbo back in the day , it was a fun car to drive in the twisties but not great off the line . Even a new Toyota 86 base stick shift which is the Best Buy on the planet right now will blow these old classics away

Love the sound of the flat6 911.

The 944 is a great car. A few mods to help with boost and charge cooling, and that would be a lot more competitive. You'd also have to drive it like you mean it. Looking at you, Tommy:-)

The 80’s icons may be slow, but they are beautiful!

One of your best videos ever. Tommy in costume and Nathan's wit were spot on.

I am curious how your 80’s C4 Corvette would do against that 4 cyl. Supra. So far it’s cubic inches under the hood have smoked all the other classics. What would classic analog muscle do against modern turbos & digital computing?

I find this abusive to 80s icons. The 911 915 gearbox was never meant for drag racing, especially when the transmission was cold. I don’t know why everyone is so fixated In straight line performance, that was never what those three cars were about.

I was surprised to see how slow those cars are, my 1.9TDI runs 16.4s in the 1/4 mile

I almost wish they held off telling us ALL quarter mile times until the end, maybe as a chart or summary breakdown. Share 0-60 times throughout, but help me build suspense and pretend I don't know who will win.

The 944 turbo has some issues as it should be much quicker and you were reading the boost gauge wrong. It doesn't make 2 bar of boost(28ish #). 1 bar on gauge is Atmospheric pressure, below is vacuum, so you had zero boost on the second run. A single run would not cause heat soak, so you had zero boost on the second run. These cars will do run after run no problem

Great video. Sitting in one of those is like going back in time

Of course, what one can't measure in a speed race is the fun one has while driving any of these cars.Well, I guess one can but it isn't about the speed to me...it is something that one has to feel in the seats, the Twisties, the driver car connections that for me, I'll take anyone of the 80's vehicles over a new car regardless of the top speed or 1/4 mile times.

I love the 1989 Porsche 944 Turbo. It is one of my favorite cars of all time.

Love it! Do more of these!!

We need a race between the Supra, Z, stinger. Unfortunately three diamonds seems to be out of the game these days. Wish you brought out the underdog Santa Cruz with the 2.5T. Wonder how it fairs against the 2.0T Supra

Something was wrong with that 944. Stock test times were mid 15's in the quarter. My guess is boost leak somewhere.

This is real world testing. Love it. Even thought my favorite are your off road reviews

Interesting that you had to go back 30 years to find a car that the BMW Supra is faster than.

My 944 Turbo ('89 951 with 250 Horses) did 0 to 100 Kilometers/h in 5,9 seconds - thats still today a good number. And top speed on the tach nearly 290 km/h (in reality about 265 km/h...)

This was kind of like starting to read a book while already knowing how it ended. Enjoyed the video, thanks guys!

When you guys want, a slightly tuned 944 Turbo is available near Boulder for you to test against these cars.

Also the "M5" and 911 have the N/A engine altitude loss disadvantage being at 5280ft. The BMW at sea level would be fun! There is a reason I only buy Turbo vehicles in CO. Less loss and easier to add power. Great video though! I would add, that even modern turbo cars heatsoak pretty bad back to back runs without proper upgraded intercoolers or cooling.

Thanks for the fun vid. Put a smile on my face going into the weekend.

You guys have a knack for answering the questions that nobody is asking. I'd love to see a video about your creative process sometime. Check out my new base Supra! Yeah but is it faster than that 40 year old Porsche???

2:25 that was a very "Clarkson-hammond" exchange right there. lol

Interesting fact about the 2.0 supra. At sea level, it has been tested by car and driver and other publications to be faster than the mk4 2JZ supra in acceleration and quarter mile. 13.4 at 105. Not bad for less than 300hp. The 370Z which makes close 330hp will match that.

I would love to see the Supra up against a turbo trans am

I wonder whether my e-golf would beat the oldies!? But sure would like an M535! So cool!

I love the 80s and I never been there. I daily drive a 87 325i. Also just acquired a 1987 4Runner turbo, only 128k miles

Great vid! The issue with the supra is that the 944, 911 and M5 will always be infinitely cooler than it is 🥰

Man I wanted a 944 Turbo so bad!

Indy500 Firestone tires are a bargain performance tire! I had them on my Abarth500 and loved them!

shoulda compared it to the brz. iconic cars vs notoriously slow modern sports car.

Tommy gets sassier in every video and it's great.

I love these old school car races

There was no question. That 2.0 litre has huge torque so far down in the revs,,,,,,. Fun video nonetheless!! Roman had a very good launch in the BMW in that race too!! Haha.

Next time do the classics vs a current everyday car like a Honda Accord.

I would love to race my 94 Z28 against those cars. I have no idea how it would do at that altitude but it would be fun.

It's an all German drag race. One car just has a Toyota badge on it.

Fun video guys, great music choices really gave it an 80's vibe. Having some experience with these cars :-) I'll take the M5

The 944 turbo wasn't much less expensive than the 911 back then. The 930 on the other hand....

The 8 speed automatic was the straw that broke the camel's back in this showdown.

I still have one of these BMW's people don't realise how good they are that engine sounds so great and is so smooth.

First off didn't realize you were father and son that is awesome. Honestly a 1987 Supra turbo would have beaten all three of your classics and gave the BMyota a way better challenge as well.

At 10:25. One 1 bar of pressure and normally 2. Tommy. You should learn about the car. 1 bar is 1 bar "absolute" not 1 bar "gauge" on that car. You were making almost no boost. Get an add-on gauge. And get the car running right.

depending on what state you're in the cars from the 80s are considered Classic but not yet antique though for example a 1973 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible is considered an antique because the 73 model year launched in fall 1972

Can only just imagine how dead that '44 Turbo is at altitude. They have, what, 8:1 compression ratio and almost nothing off the line even at sea level. Of course, that slingshot effect and tricky launch was half the fun for me.

Wish you brought 1989 above 944 Turbo which I had it has 250hp and it was fast and really fun to drive. Wish I can have one again but price is so high now in Japan. I'll choose 944 Turbo but again must be above 1989 Turbo

Fun reminder on how slow these old sports cars were.

The 5 series is a great looking car I’d still take that if you’d ask me. You can keep all the others including the BMW Supra.

Good stuff guys! The 944 beating the 911 surprised me. The video looks like you guys are barely taking off at the start? Give me the Supra.

They were so scared to launch these cars and break them lmao

17.4 from a 951? Wtf is wrong with it?

I like the comparisons but think your old cars need some work. I remember running a 17.1 1/4 mile in my old 82 Supra (non turbo) with its 145hp 2.8 6cyl. That new Supra is fast but pricey. I’d love to see it go up against a slightly modded GR86. See if you can get that kind of performance or more for a lot less.

87 Starion/conquest would’ve been great for the line up.

HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY EVERYONE

Roman said BTS! 😂 good analogy! We’ll kind of.

There is a easy fix for the 944 overheating/low power problem, just install a lower temp fan switch. I had a 87 944 turbo and I noticed in the summer time the temp gauge would get up to the mid point and the car would start to lose power. After installing the lower temp switch the needle would stay around the first mark on the gauge. The only downside is the fan will run almost all the time around town and only cut off when you are on the highway. But the car will have full power all the time and never overheat. And by the way my current car a 88 944 Turbo S would give that Supra a run for the money.

A stock 944 turbo isn't running 2 bar of boost stock. The 944 would've easily beat that old BMW. This was lack of driver skill.

the band were called Nena, the singers name was Gabrielle Kerner, however because the band name sounded so much like Nina, most people just assumed the female singer fronting them was a woman called Nina, so much so in fact she is also often mixed up with German punk rock singer Nina Hagen who is a completely unrelated artist

I got to drive an '88 944 Turbo in '88. I was in the Navy and flew into John Wayne airport on leave. My brother in law and his brother, a Dr, picked me up in the Dr's new 944 Turbo for ride down to Solano Beach, Ca. My BIL kept nagging his brother that he was driving like a puss. He convinced his brother to let me drive. Nineteen years old, hauling ass in a new 944 Turbo, being coached by my BIL, while the Dr is screaming for me to stop. Lol.

watching those older cars race is like watching paint dry! Its amazing how what was fast is now slow.

Great video keep them coming my favorite out of the four is the 911 always love that car!!!

Do you have a new member on the team ?

Not sure why it’s so hard to launch the 944. I got way better times with mine years ago. Then when you up to boost-forget it. Maybe it needs a clutch?

Great video. Ya know even though it's so much faster, I'd rather own any one of the other cars. Assuming they're in good condition.

My thinking is, if that 80's Bimmer would be a real serious M3, it would woop ass.

I love the 944.

Fun video. Most enthusiasts would find the three 80’s cars not the high performance versions of the Marques.

geez, my first car was an 86' civic si with 91hp, in the late 90's I ran a 17.1 1/4 mile at Orlando speed world.

I got a 944 turbo. If you want to launch it fast you have to rev it much higher.

This is one of those channels that most drivers don't know knows how change gears fast manual transmission, it is the truth that had to be said and I said it

Tommy, your jacket and shirt are great. Everyone tries to be retro these days.

It is very disappointing to watch and listen to this as there was zero effort to get the 1980s cars with original performance instead of vehicles that are clearly far off of their original specs for power. The 944 Turbo would do about a flat 6 zero to sixty and quarter mile around 15 seconds. Top speed was in the 150 range. Those numbers were not far off for the 911 either. Those are what should have faced the Supra (Z4). Better yet, get the 944 Turbo S with 30 more HP and substantially better times.

When it comes to sports cars everyone seems to all be worried about the 'fastest' ones but to be honest that is not what a true 'sports car' is all about. Fast is important, yes but the whole concept of a true 'sports car' puts as much emphasis on handling as it does on top speed... maybe even a bit more. You can have the fastest car in the world but on a road track you can easily be whipped all day by a better handling car with less power. I have a CTS-V and yes, a Hellcat can beat me on a straightaway but throw in some curves and it is a whole different race. That rule goes the same for sports cars.

The Porsche 944 Turbo was not done justice:( It's obviously the fastest of the 80's bunch you had, the second run should've been redone as it didn't reflect accurately due to a booat issue. I suspect zero or perhaps 3psi of boost on the second run caused by a KLT issue? I've had this happen to mine and a simple restart of the car solved it. I really doubt the car got heat soaked that easily.

Love this!!!!! Keep it up guys.

Great video, loved it.

‘87 is literally the least quick 951. ‘86 was the same numbers but 400lbs lighter and the Turbo S was even quicker. Not to mention the S2 which was an N/A 3L. Known to be the torqueiest of all models.

Outstanding! Thank you

Dont have to even watch it to know the 2.0 turbo will Amber Turd the competition. Poopra all the way!

Would the Porsche RUF Yellowbird be a contender?

i was born in 1987 --- so that 35years boys ;) nice episode

Nathan was correct at the end, a 1987 Corvette would give that Supra a run for its money, at sea level anyway. 1/4 mile 14.5 @ 97mph. 0-60 5.9 sec.

Are you kidding me these cars don’t even come close to a 87 GNX . My crappy Cutlass with a 305 v8 could beat these cars in the 1/4mile 😂

That "Nena" catches 2nd winner 👍

I'm partial to the 911 of I'm going toward an old foreign car. The yesteryear engineering makes it easy to work on and the parts availability, while expensive, is at least out there in the market. Maybe doing a rolling start to prevent not just a clutch dying, but the expen$IVE transmission from blowing up?

I would say that 944 is the Flock of Seagulls, 911 Turbo would be The Who, the non M5 The Beatles & the Supra is BTS (lol)

Can't wait to see the new Z against the Supra

You guys have the best job! Cheers 🍻

Honestly the complaint about altitude is kind of stupid, not all ground is flat at sea level. I spend most of my life at 2000ft so sea level HP means nothing to me, I'll take the boosted car every time.