I have no idea if you read these comments or not, I’ve just discovered you and your content this morning. I can’t not verbally express the therapy your nature videos provide my spirit. I’ve only watch two videos and was nearly brought to tears by the visual and sounds of nature. My brain doesn’t really comprehend the science behind what you’re say, Lol, but you’re definitely the kind of teacher that encourages and inspires me to do the work necessary to keep up with your conversations. I guess I just want to say thank you and remind you of how awesome of a person you are.
when i first saw "elastique" pitch/timestretching added to ACID many **many** (oh no) moons ago, i was blown away and had to know where it came from and i've been a huge fan of zplane's output ever since. really fantastic utility plugins that emphasize creative use of their features.
Not gonna lie, correcting the whole-tone solo actually sounded really good! The artifacts reminded me of pitch-to-CV on a KORG MS20; a very endearing weirdness.
Also, tonic and decoda are absolutely insane - I often improvise something and record a voice memo and have no idea what I did when I listen back, and don’t really want to sit there figuring it out every single time. Definitely picking one of them up next time I have some spare cash.
yeah zplane always makes awesome plugins. i think the reason why people don't tend to buy them a lot is mostly because all the good daws already come with the zplane audio engine so all you'd buy would be a different workflow of the same sound you already got. ofc it's basically the same with all the different filter plugins that are released all the time, but people are less aware of that cause filters have more generic names
Thank you Sensei. Great lesson much appreciated. Since you mentioned certain kinds of software that may be associated with chip tunes, and asked for comments, I will chime in. Been watching your stuff in hopes of springboarding my music creation journey. I am mid thirties laborer who has little time for hobbies but been making time to learn tracker software because portability of lsdj allowed me to produce on breaks and during work downtime (worked through all of pandemic). Also learning dirtywave headless while waiting for my m8 to ship. Anything related to these types of workflows and especially sampling, resampling, downsampling and crisscrossampling would be super interesting to my old plasticized grey cells. thanks I love you
Worth noting that NewTone in FL studio uses the Pitch/Time manipulation engine by zplane (might also explain why some of the interface is the same as vielklang)
14:17 Amazing. I wonder if that is how BT does it 🤔 That sounds 10000% spot on to how he closes out the ends of vocal phrases… I kept half expecting to hear a stutter edit. I learn so much from you, and I am so grateful.
"Vielklang" is pronounced "feel clung" (not "claaaang") and an artificial German word derived from something like "Vielvölkerstaat" (a state with a multi-ethnic population), so "Viel..." in general is like "multi..." and "Klang" just means "Sound". So "Vielklang" would be something like "multisound", while for example Kraftwerk's label "Klingklang Studios" is just mimicking a church bell, like "ding dong" in English. Polyphony would be "Mehrstimmigkeit" (more-voices-thing) and there is no word for the movie example you gave - maybe "Verarschung" (giving someone you hate the wrong movie title on purpose, like pranking, but mean). Not saying this to educate you but because I know you'd actually be interested in learning unnecessary information, especially if it's foreign 😘
what dialect do you have if you dont mind me asking? shouldnt it be pronounced "fee-el clahng"? i dont see why it'd be "clung". that would mean that a word like "arbeit" would be pronounced "ur-bight" instead of "ahr-bight"
i think the OP got it right the 'a' in Klang and Arbeit is short, it will indeed sound more or less like 'clung' in most dialects the long 'a' in German is normally spelled 'ah' or 'aa', so the 'clahng' you're thinking of could be found in words like Ahnung or Paar
I’m so old school, but I really dig your ability to wrap your head around such amazing software. I’m streaming your tunes everyday, sorry it doesn’t make you rich, but it’s currently what I can afford. ❤
PS: Found it hard to compare the retune examples due to one having reverb while the other didn't. Awesome video otherwise. Just wish the entire thing was dry A/B tests.
Here you can hear it in action around 54th min. For totally transparent pitch shifting I would look up zynaptiq's pitchmap. That thing is still years ahead of competition , 9 years after its release (the competition being zplane's retune). Retune does impose some sort of 'Retuny' quality, which I find surreal and magical. I like feeding it noisy and dirty textures so it would struggle decoding it. Though I haven't used it to create 'Take on me but its all A' videos, but it worked for me pretty well. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aO2Tz_FXGgU.html
@@micindir4213 I was using "Zynaptiq Pitchmap" for years before "zplane reTune" got released, but then i stopped using it in 2016 when "zplane reTune" got released, because i started comparing their Polyphonic AutoTune and i noticed that "Zynaptiq Pitchmap" does some weird things when you change the key. "Zynaptiq Pitchmap" is a weird Real-Time Polyphonic AutoTune plugin, because when you change the key on "Zynaptiq Pitchmap", it over-exaggerates the pitch change like a pitch shifter and it makes your voice sound like a chipmunk voice or deep voice. Here's an example that you can try on "Zynaptiq Pitchmap", change "PURIFY" to "90%" or "100%" and change "KEY TRANSFORM" to "Major F" or "Major G" on a voice recording, and you will notice that the voice sounds like it has been pitch shifted and it sounds like a chipmunk voice or deep voice. "zplane reTune" doesn't do a weird pitch shifting effect when you change the key, and "zplane reTune" is also better for creating custom scales.
I was just listening to a couple of James Brown tracks where he's trying to get the band into a different key, and I wonder if he lived this long whether it'd make him more or less of an authoritarian dictator of a bandleader
Small comment to make; at about 1:20, you say that ZPlane's ReTune is like "live AutoTune that works in realtime" but AutoTune itself is live and works in realtime. I *assume* you either meant to specifically namedrop Melodyne (since it has a similar algorithm but doesn't work realtime/live) or perhaps you just meant "auto-tune" to refer to pitch correction in general
Ladies and gentlemen, we are living in the future. I'd really be interested to see how they map audio to data structures, so it can be logically parsed and processed.
At 7:20.... spontaneous combustion, very reminiscent of an 80's "Fire on the Mountain" ( Grateful Dead ) right down to the super-driven auto-wah and shuffling drum beat ( ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iTHYRO0J9AY.html 4:00 or so for reference)
Hey amazing video I'm convinced I need to at least get retune and tonic maybe even elastique and decoda. Quick question though, how many copies are you allowed with each product? I'm thinking of splitting the cost with my friends and wanted to make sure we would all be able to use them
There are two real-time "returners" 1. Zplane retune. 2. Zynaptiq pitchmap. Both add pretty wild latency and mess up timing. My i7 4th gen cpu was frying, but I still played concerts with it (look up my videos from 2020)
@@SianaGearz MQ. TBH after I got mba m1 I've never looked at cpu meter. Irony being, that I've moved to simpler setup and don't need that much power for live set. It's a production beast though. Need variant of a sound? Just copy track! For simple songs I can end up with 70+ tracks (all the small variations of the sound being copied to another track+ layers etc), it still ends up in 4-5 bus tracks though. I have 8gb so it hickups a bit when browser opened etc. But I'm glad I don't deal with asio and usb enumeration anymore. Previously I've used 100+ tracks in live set (ableton) and troubleshooting the set during the soundcheck was too much stress. Inevitably some midi track got wrongly enumerated midi controller, so whole chain gets out of the window and for example live input for retune plugin doesn't work for some reason. Just ugh. Much easier to use 1 synth and 1 playback box.
@@micindir4213 I was using "Zynaptiq Pitchmap" for years before "zplane reTune" got released, but then i stopped using it in 2016 when "zplane reTune" got released, because i started comparing their Polyphonic AutoTune and i noticed that "Zynaptiq Pitchmap" does some weird things when you change the key. "Zynaptiq Pitchmap" is a weird Real-Time Polyphonic AutoTune plugin, because when you change the key on "Zynaptiq Pitchmap", it over-exaggerates the pitch change like a pitch shifter and it makes your voice sound like a chipmunk voice or deep voice. Here's an example that you can try on "Zynaptiq Pitchmap", change "PURIFY" to "90%" or "100%" and change "KEY TRANSFORM" to "Major F" or "Major G" on a voice recording, and you will notice that the voice sounds like it has been pitch shifted and it sounds like a chipmunk voice or deep voice. "zplane reTune" doesn't do a weird pitch shifting effect when you change the key, and "zplane reTune" is also better for creating custom scales.
A popular part of his act, the late great Les Dawson used to play popular standards on his piano, but he would play them littered with wrong notes, to hilarious effect. The first thing I thought of when you were testing the capabilities of this was what it would do with one of Les’ dodgy piano sketches! I’m not sure if he was as well known over in the USA, but here’s a clip! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uMOrsWxh5mg.html
The Vielklang resample thing is pretty annoying to me. I work usually at 48kHz, and some of the samples I use are 44.1 kHz. Resampling audio is so basic compared to what zplane can do, it's a shame they don't do it automatically. NewTone resamples for you, why can't Vielklang? (zplane, plz fix.)
Hey Benn, thanks for the review-medley. I would break a lance for this intuitive company. For sure the Gui isn't as actual Chrome polished, but is this really the most important thing about an audio-app? Btw Happy New Year!
Possibly, I still haven't found much use for it and I don't really want to make a review that's overly critical. Maybe I'll ask some other musician to own it to try and sell me on it.
Hey! just discovered you recently...Playing a righty guitar left handed upside down? Is that how you naturally learned guitar or were you just borrowing someone else's guitar? P&L from a fellow lefty!
I want a ai that I can just type a description of the music in and it creates a song like modern ai art. Fast double bass, intricate cymbal work, deep growls, odd time, dissonant metal guitars, fretless bass solos, in the key of D.
It can already do that IF you provide it with training information. The thing about the visual art that you don't see is that it's just replicating bits of things that it's been trained on, it's just that those training models are so large. I've been using AI music creation for years to expand small ideas into longer parts, but you have to feed it something for it to go off of, if you just ask it to make something on its own it's absolute chaos and noise (which is also useful in its own as an element! Just not particularly musical in a vacuum)
"If you are a sample- or loopbased musician who doesn't have a very well-trained ear, this is a must-buy..." If you don't have a well-trained ear, learn music. Can't buy yourself free from ignorance.
@@Tom_G_Hausler I suppose that’s true. I love new tech and these zplane apps seem amazing. If I ran a commercial studio I wouldn’t hesitate to buy them, but as a solo artist with a home studio, they’re a little too expensive for my own experimentation.
