Can this Work with a Camper? My Parking Heater Experiment Part 2

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After a few disappointments, I tried again to make a portable 5kw diesel parking heater keep a small fiberglass trailer warm. PLEASE SEE THE FIRST VIDEO TO UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF THIS EXPERIMENT! It's here: • Can this Work with a C...
This is the second and final video of the series.
Sidenote: I did not correctly quote the final power consumption. After 15 hours of use during the last test, the heater used 24% of my battery, therefore 76% of my battery storage remained.
As to why the heater kept shutting off, it appears it was an issue with the battery and not the heater. Thanks! SP
Disclaimer: This is beyond the intended use of this heater, and is not recommended for safety reasons. It is merely an experiment and should only be viewed for entertainment purposes.
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@geenote 3 года назад

I have the same heater with blue controller outside of my truck shell camper sitting on the tail gate. Easier setup that works out great on the truck shell and doubles as a shop heater. Good video - Thanks for all the work and sharing information.

@SlimPotatohead 3 года назад

Hi Keith, great to hear from someone who understands the concept. Too many can't see beyond the typical permanent van installs, which just don't apply here. Thanks for thinking outside the box! SP

@SlimPotatohead 3 года назад

Keith, I hope you don't mind if I put a link to your "Testing Truck Shell Diesel Heater at Camp" video here. I think yours is a great concept and my viewers would benefit from it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sbJbV8BuAOs.html Thanks! SP

@geenote 3 года назад

@@SlimPotatohead Awesome! Thank you so much!

@Peter_Enis 3 года назад

I have the same heater and am satisfied as well (not so cold here in Holland), If you get a longer heated output hose you can warm the engine bay (and interior) of the car before you take off.... Love your experiments!! Kind greetings!

@atak135 3 года назад

This would be great in a big tent piped in from outside. It would also be beneficial for ice fishing.

@30AndAWakeUp 3 года назад

Nothing makes me happier than to end my 2020 watching some Slim Potatohead!

@Inlinetodie 3 года назад

Well put good sir

@SlimPotatohead 3 года назад

NOTE FROM SLIM: I released BOTH Part 1 and Part 2 the same morning, so please make sure you watch both to understand the full story. Thanks! SP

@elineblind348 3 года назад

For whatever reason RU-vid only sent me notification for part 2 so I wrongly assumed it was second part of that one you removed from the platform ;) so I watched them backwards. All good. Thanks for sharing the experiment. We've missed seeing you. Here's to 2021! Happy new year SP.

@patsykluting-lucas3804 3 года назад

I really don't have a sense of smell...with an exception-- if I drive in town behind a diesel vehicle and my window is down..wow that wreaks.

@johnathanpearson3203 3 года назад

It will switch off at low htz because of carbon build up it needs to run at full power to clear it every so often. Using the factory settings and temp regulation is best so it can cycle the burn. That's my 2 cents. Lol.

@CanadienNortherner 3 года назад

@@johnathanpearson3203 I never run mine under 1.8hrz , 1.6 was factory set on mine . Don't know why his went down to 1.2hrz ! It'll soot up for sure

@rlsingle00 3 года назад

I was lucky and discovered the first one, watched it and then discovered the second part. Happy new year Slim. Best wishes to you.

@phillalonde1509 3 года назад

Hey Slim good call. That heater is a heat exchanger and it's meant to recirculate the warm intake air and won't ever suck in diesel exhaust. Also those 2 or 3 power disruption prevented the heater from doing its proper shut down rountine. I would suggest you run it full blast to clear out the fouled glow plug.

@djbe7850 3 года назад

The 12v on the jackery is on a timer, my 12v fridge kept turning off and the jackery was the culprit

@jeffreyallen1290 3 года назад

I have a Jackery 500 and I am not happy with it.

@stellarproductions8888 3 года назад

@@jeffreyallen1290 Yeah, I looked up the top model that is possibly capable of running a home refrigerator during a power outage, for how long, I couldn't tell you. Cause when I saw the price tag, 1000 dollars for a battery pack, I was horified. So I bought a 1000 dollar generator capable of producing far more power then these power packs. Yes its noisy, but at least I feel I am getting my money's worth. 1000 dollars for a battery that can only put out 500 watts of power, and may only last an hour on a fridge for all I know, is not what I call logical.

@Utah_Mike 3 года назад

@@stellarproductions8888 agree.

@james10739 3 года назад

@@stellarproductions8888 I believe the $1000 one is a 1000wh battery and a 1000w inverter I mean with losses you can probably only get between 800 and 900 watt hours but just for a backup of things like a fridge and larger appliances or just for a long time without solar then a generator is obviously a better solution but the jackery is ment for another customer with the ability to for some backup in an emergency

@atak135 3 года назад

@@james10739 these battery packs are great for smaller uses, phones, laptops, portable electronics but powering RVs???? I prefer a really good yeti ice chest over electric. Also I have a backup lithium ion battery to draw from.

@jdux9089 3 года назад

Hi Slim. I hope you take note of all the positive, "Thank You" comments that you get. You have a lot of impact on a lot of people (including me!). Everybody subscribes to multiple RV blogs, but IMO only you and Adventure Van Man can "touch" people the way you 2 do. Keep up the Great work. Thanks, John

@bdv861 3 года назад

I installed one in my Aliner two years ago. Not the all in one version, just the heater itself. It's about the size of a shoebox. Drilled a 4" hole in the floor and mounted it in a cabinet. The hot air duct is only 2" long. The heater flange is sealed against the flloor so all the exhaust is outside the trailer. The fuel tank is mounted outside in a tongue box. Power is supplied from one of the trailer's fused circuits. I suspended the pump under the trailer with 1/8" elastic cord. I can hardly hear it. In the summer I remove the fuel tank and the heater remains but it's small and light. Controls are mounted on a cabinet face that I can reach from my bed. Overall I am very happy with it.

@Tuckerclan 3 года назад

I'd really like to see your installation. I think this is a great idea as the Wabasto heaters in the old days were great, but problematic.

@ou812m8 3 года назад

Ben, nice to meet you...

@bobham919 3 года назад

the one slim has is the 5k. its cold where he is and i plan to get one of these. but i wanted to know if it was auto on and auto off. like you set the thermostat and it will hold the temperature? or do you choose setting 1 and leave it or setting 2 and leave it? slim said its really hot to the touch even on low maybe a 5k size is to much for a camper in not so cold weather? my trailer is about 15ft long. any suggestions for the size i need?

@kevzz108 3 года назад

@@bobham919 from what I've heard it doesn't auto on off but it will reduce the fuel and power to accommodate the temperatures set. also the exhaust gets extremely hot so if u want one in a trailer I wouldn't recommend the all in one and make sure u use the mounting plate provided n make a big enough hole for the exhaust as the base of the heater gets quite warm. The heater is very simple to wire up and on most a pre made wiring harness is provided so the only hard bit is choosing where to put the heater

@russellskillen4070 3 года назад

Similar story as well, Ihave internaly mounted with external fuel tank a 2kw unit in my avan, recirculate the heated air and it works great, i have extended the exhaust , but with a few Minor adjustments they work great..

@msoulforged 3 года назад

Safety first, very smart move Mr. Potatohead. It is never a good experience to wait for getting rescued during a snowstorm.

@marknesselhaus4376 3 года назад

A real treat having both videos back to back :-D

@theonlywoody2shoes 3 года назад

I’ve worked on one of these fitted inside a camper van, and it recommends that the plastic/see through fuel pipe does not connect directly to the pump, but instead be spliced to a piece of rubber pipe a few inches long either side - not sure if this would work on your all-in-one unit? I’d removed the rubber clamp holding the pump to the van body (just hanging the pump on the pipes either side of the it) and it wasn’t that much quieter, but putting the short lengths of rubber in line made a much bigger difference. I’m sure there’s some science to explain why, is the diesel fluid transmitting the noise and the rubber pipe bits allowing this to be less loud? Thanks for keeping us entertained and educated, and wishing you all the best for the new year ahead.

@fuzzybobbles 3 года назад

I have one inside my van built into the end of the kitchen cupboard. Pump is insulated with foam, mounted on soft rubber bushings. Fuel lines are also on rubber bushings. The heater is also mounted on rubber bushings. All the pipework has minimum bends as possible. I use 2 mufflers on the exhaust. But the ones you can see through each end and not the ones with a baffle. I also properly balanced the fan and motor. Sound deadening rubber mats car audio enthusiasts use are stuck inside the red metal case. My heater is now as silent as an electric fan heater, but puts out a lot more heat. In winter I can get the inside of my fan that hot I can sit naked and still sweat. Never need it running more than 25% in normal winter use.

@CC58 3 года назад

Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pondered, weak and weary, Over many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore- While I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping, As of some one gently rapping, rapping at my chamber door. “’Tis some fuel pump,” I muttered, “tapping at my chamber door- Only this and nothing more.

@grannieannie1371 3 года назад

Nice 😊

@anthonyc1883 3 года назад

Love it!

@richardhouvener6423 3 года назад

What are you raven about?

@dottie2884 3 года назад

Wonderful !!

@packiejoegilheany1171 3 года назад

Having just drove passed Poe Cottage in da Bronx, I appreciated your little diddy a little bit more.

@christopheralanfields 3 года назад

If you connect, the air inlet, to the trailer, you can, run the heater, on low and get, the diesel usage, down to, about 1 gallon, to 1.25 gallons, for 24 hours.

@PUTDEVICE 3 года назад

Thought about it. a small disc he can put in the window with socket for the hose so the air cycles. then you do not need to heat cold air.

@nismo4x4n 3 года назад

not only that but you wouldn't get the diesel exhaust smell

@garypowers6991 3 года назад

True, he would be heating the return air from his camper and not external air which would be much colder saving fuel if the temperature inside camper was monitored

@novanut1964 3 года назад

i had the same thots instead of heating the cold outside air thanks

@viking8889 3 года назад

I think that clicking noise would make me crazy

@salan3 3 года назад

Funny that we get many visitors that can't stand the ticking clocks in the house. We don't hear them any more. It's what you are used to I suppose.

@jacknimble1 3 года назад

Have you heard the sound of a typical propane heater in a smaller camper?? That clicking sound is nothing compared to that.

@restlesshomebody 3 года назад

I thought that modification had multiple uses, you being you! I would not like the diesel heater. I miss your woodstove! (Sticks go in, heat comes out) Thank you for another informative presentation, happy camping my friend!

@papajeff5486 3 года назад

Getting caught in a storm without the right equipment is not smart. A six hour shut off is a, “NO GO”. Good you learned about the Jackery thermostat. Finding some kind of heater shelter in bad weather is gonna be a challenge; good luck. You are a pro at insightful fixes. I have faith in you. Remember, your exhaust tube needs to get bigger as it gets longer. I know you know why. Good you need the vent in your trailer, whew! This covers a lot of issues, my friend. Quite the experiment. Thanks. Texas

@anthonyc1883 3 года назад

Interesting. Did not know that physics require an exhaust pipe to get wider as it gets longer. There's obviously a formula for that? Automobile exhausts pipes don't do that, but perhaps it's because they typically don't extend very far, relatively speaking?

@Roarmeister2 3 года назад

Luckily he had this thing called an automobile that he could simply jump in and warm and toasty!

@papajeff5486 3 года назад

Anthony, several things impede flow in a tube, obstruction, bends, length, radius, blah, blah, blah. Thing is, a motor has to exhale, exhaust. So, we put a tube there to point the exhaust out of the way. The engineers have worked out the back pressure that exhaust puts on the engine. That pressure has a relatively wide range of tolerance. Usually, shorter is not a big deal. But, if the tube gets long, then the length begins to impede flow and increasing back pressure may effect the running of the engine. Hope this helps.

@threedogsandacamper503 3 года назад

“Like living in a giant pacemaker.” LOL

@veeelle4885 3 года назад

"Like Benny and the Jets." :D

@jamelcampbell4984 3 года назад

Try putting an insulation around the pump. That might help the noise. Love the videos.

@coachgeo 3 года назад

they sell a silicon cover just for this purpose.

@m8e 3 года назад

Looks like the pump also is pretty much bolted to the front panel. Some rubber mounts/bushings could help too.

@flyingirish66 3 года назад

I didn't know about the silicone cover, but I did wonder about isolating the pump using the same concept as they do with the water pump in most RV's, a number of rubber grommets to keep the vibration of the pump from making the back of the heater case a diaphragm. By the way Slim, love your work, great videos. Wish I knew ahead of time about your Natchez Trace trip a couple of years ago, you were in our back yard. Keep up the good work.

@ruthanderson1758 3 года назад

Have you thought about some sort of insulated little "house" to cover the heater - it might minimize some of the tick-tick-tick noise it makes.

@williamslyer318 3 года назад

A housing would likely also keep snow off of the unit instead of an umbrella,and that umbrella plan still worked well for you. Great informative video, and nice work.

@james10739 3 года назад

Ya I was thinking it's just the fuel pump so you could probably just wrap it in Insulation and quiet it down and I'd be surprised if they don't make another pump that is quieter

@KG-cl9gv 3 года назад

Should change name to “ Slim, The Determined ! “

@ncplantdoctor 3 года назад

This is exactly what I was considering for my gooseneck trailer. After more than 30 years of firefighting, I could not tolerate propane anywhere near my sleeping area because of the danger. So I have considered the diesel heaters and I was impressed with the “tent” installations where the heater was outside. I have seen another trailer with an external heater installation and it seems practical, although his exhaust is routed up above the trailer with the stand he built. The diesel heaters also provide dry heat, helping to control condensation. This was good information. Glad you persisted and shared it.

@MrFrodo1111 Год назад

been running 2 diesel heaters in my fifth wheel for 2 years best decision ever..use way less power..I'm off grid, less fuel and much cheaper then propane aside from the obvious danger of blowing up..and yea they are totally safe to leave on all night when it is really cold which I would NEVER do with a big buddy!

@Kelly-st7bu 3 года назад

I saw a van diesel heater install where the person only attached the top of the fuel pump. He let the bottom hang free. It was still at 45% but it was very very quiet.

@paulreed1142 3 года назад

Unless you already have one, I suggest you look into purchasing a satellite distress beacon like "Foresty Forest" uses. Be safe and HAPPY NEWYEAR!

@SpectreOZ 3 года назад

Smart to plan for the worst than be caught short in an emergency... VancityVanlife has also since purchased such a device (popular with remote travellers here in Australia as well) 👍

@owenolson8668 3 года назад

@@SpectreOZ mmm(

@MrCeodez 3 года назад

Slim, really appreciate your videos....I can't help but think you would have better success with the intake hose being inside the trailer....a home furnace depends on reheating the home's warm air and not heating the outside cold air....also maybe consider an insulated box to protect the unit from exposure and maybe dampening the fuel pump??...thanks again for the demo 🤓

@genespell4340 Год назад

That would lower the amount of fuel burned per hour by half or close to half. I could be wrong. Hopefully someone has done that and will let us know.

@nkbbrigger3359 3 года назад

I like your blue shoes. Can you tell us were you bought them? How much do they cost? Give us a link please

@garthhendricks2607 3 года назад

Tiaga in Vancouver makes them

@basails45 3 года назад

Baffin also makes them. Like sleeping bags for your feet😁

@caseybot1433 3 года назад

Mountain equipment coop sells them

@johnaverick7468 3 года назад

Thank you so much for converting measurements and temps for Us Yanks. Love your content and like the fact you break down efficiency values. Like when you said about " 7 ounces of diesel an hr. " Can't get any simpler than that. SO many of these instructional vids. always fall short of being Crystal Clear like yours do.

@anitaagler9844 3 года назад

Now I am going to be singing Benny and the Jets all day, thanks 🤣

@mariaperham6382 3 года назад

Smart to leave before the storm got worse. That’s what my husband and I understand about our journey, the need to be flexible.

@tornadokat 3 года назад

From an Amazon review: "The 6 hour socket timeout for loads less than 10W is still an undesirable feature."

@jimh.8138 3 года назад

Wow, a 2 for 1 Slim Potatohead video special. What a great way to end a lousy year. Happy New Year to all.

@karolmolitor4675 3 года назад

I laughed when I saw the rigged up umbrella. Points for major enginuity!

@brmelectric 3 года назад

The clicking niose could be helpfull, Get your Mandelin out, you have perfect rythum for a Slim-tastick camping tune

@stellarproductions8888 3 года назад

Yes, the song will begin like this.... In the big rock candy mountain, I was freezing my arse off.......... :D

@TFShaw 3 года назад

No doubt! Heater / metronome. 😂 👍

@Tom-ic7hw 3 года назад

the ammo can wood stove is sexier and it feeds u pizza .....and casserole good luck slim love the videos

@remyllebeau77 3 года назад

Sexier? Well it certainly fills a certain hole that Slim doesn't want to make in the roof. :D

@grannypeacock1218 3 года назад

Yay, I've been waiting for this one 😀 I love the way you always think outside the box to make an object uniquely suited to you.

@NikEdw70 3 года назад

I miss you stove you had in your other trailer...

@GF-pc5bt 3 года назад

They do sell a cover for these pumps on Amazon for about 15 bucks...claims it will reduce noise

@smc65714 3 года назад

Need to Run Them on High before Shutting it Down,Burns off Excess Carbon Build up,[not a fun job-Cleaning Inside]

@SlimPotatohead 3 года назад

It does this automatically. SP

@peterjd.w794 3 года назад

Right, Same I do.

@paulluggar5964 3 года назад

Never turn the power off but always let it cycle down to cool the heat exchanger before shutdown. I'm told it can cause damage to just kill the power....

@farnzy2011 3 года назад

@@SlimPotatohead not compleetly, the fan cycles up but the fuel stops straight away. You need to set it flat out for about 5 min then switch it off. I haven't had to de soot mine since starting to do that.

@AndreasEUR 3 года назад

@@SlimPotatohead What it does at the end is turn off combustion and run fan to cool down the unit.

@FromShetoMe 3 года назад

This was a nice treat to wake up to. 2 Slim videos. Curious how much power your propane heater would have used.

@SlimPotatohead 3 года назад

Excellent question. I was going to compare in a later video however here's what I have so far. My propane furnace averages around 31 Watts when running. Assuming it will shut off when at temp, and start up again when cold. It would be fair to say in cold weather is would actually average 15 watts an hour for 15 hours. That's 225 watts. The diesel would use 130 watts (or maybe less), so in this case the diesel uses less power. One solution for me therefore is just seek out a new power efficient propane furnace and not bother with another fuel type of heater! Thanks! SP

@nejdro1 3 года назад

@@SlimPotatohead The quality European heaters, which are similar to the oil fired units, are available as propane fired. Of course , they are several times more expensive.

@bobham919 3 года назад

@@SlimPotatohead what power does the propane furnace use that is not the fan. i would think the only power is the fan

@PAfarmboy 3 года назад

@@SlimPotatohead I can see how the propane furnace fan might use more electricity. Do you have any idea of the fuel cost comparison between diesel and propane per heating hour? It's easy to measure the diesel level but difficult for the propane unless you went by weight.

@WhatsUpWithSheila 3 года назад

All in all.... yes you had to put a little work into it and it does have a clicking sound BUT... to have something that will keep you warm at night for 15 hours in an energy and fuel efficient way... does actually sound like a small *win* to me : )

@kathie__1 3 года назад

I always enjoy your videos and look for them. How nice to end this year with TWO of your videos! Thank you slim, stay safe, and Happy New Year

@FordManiac76 3 года назад

I use a beach umbrella to cover my portable generator all the time. I keep it low, around 4 feet, and it works great.

@thizizliz 3 года назад

I like the honesty of your review. The good, the bad & the ugly. For me the ticking would be annoying but beats being too cold. You will find the right solution for YOU over time & its your camper, your experience.

@stealthexpressvan8475 3 года назад

Thanks for doing the converting C to F.

@SlimPotatohead 3 года назад

Another vlogger has picked up on my portable concept and made a few improvements. Please check out CheaperJeeperTV's video at: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-K8J1GDWIb-0.html Thanks, SP

@martinroy9922 3 года назад

I put one in my small enclosed trailer and it worked fantastic. It was -22 Celsius outside and +24 celsius inside. The pump is annoying sometimes but it is safe. I’ve used it 2 weekends. It is safe.

@azclaimjumper 3 года назад

Which brand & model are you using?

@geraldhenrickson7472 3 года назад

I believe anything that uses internal combustion is inherently unsafe yet we trust the manufacturers to put all the safety controls in place and that they actually work. I have not researched the safety of these inexpensive heaters made overseas yet I guess you have? Its good to know.

@TomLentz 3 года назад

It does look like a bit of a pain to set up, but I agree it could be a useful solution. I'd be more comfortable with that than a wood stove in the trailer. A quick google on "chinese diesel heater clicking" came up with several videos on "fixes" which really seemed to be either insulating or suspending the solenoid pump. If I were going with your solution long term I would probably install an exhaust pipe at the rear of the trailer to get the exhaust up overhead (unplug heater at the base of the pipe when moving), and maybe see if I could rig up the fuel to come from an external jerry can -- more capacity and you can take the whole can down to the station to fill it and never have to "pour".

@davidnoirot4255 3 года назад

Great video! I always wondered if the jackery could handle that kind of draw. I personally would look into insulated hoses for the air. And would absolutely draw the fresh air from inside the trailer.

@geraldhenrickson7472 3 года назад

No. No. No. Even though it is not combustion air...

@brucebear1 2 года назад

I absolutely agree, David. If not, for every cubic foot of hot air that comes down that hose, a cubic foot of warm air inside the trailer is pushed out (through cracks around the door and windows, vents, chases for wiring, etc.). Heating an enclosed area that way is like bailing out a boat with a cup without a bottom. It would make a significant difference i the heating efficiency to have the intake air come from inside the closed trailer.

@genespell4340 Год назад

@@brucebear1 just like central heat and air conditioning in a home. As long as you have a carbon monoxide alarm and a smoke detector, everything should be nice and cozy.

@hiknfo 3 года назад

Normally I won’t watch videos that are as long as your’s are but I find that you’re very thorough and not just stretching it out. I loved what you did with the pellet stove.

@jeffbarnett1201 3 года назад

Wrap the fuel pump in sound deadening material. I use 1" SounDown foam for my marine Webasto installations. For that Chinese knock off will probably have to remount the fuel pump separately

@richardhouvener6423 3 года назад

A cheap way to go might be a section of pool noodle, maybe?

@bobham919 3 года назад

@Jeff Barnett how do you rate the Chinese vs the real ones? are they are noisy? do they start up and act the same?

@FishyFelix 3 года назад

@@bobham919 the solenoid pumps are the same for both German Webasto and Chinese version. Everything is made in China. I use a white noise machine while I sleep to drown out road noises and other truck drivers who like to idle all night long.

@jamey48 3 года назад

I don't know why yours clicks like that. I've used a few in big rigs, and other than the whine on start up, they have never made that noise. It could be the fuel pump. Or maybe the fan is hitting the shroud. But that's just a guess. I do know a wabsco is around 1k. So very expensive. Great video. I'm still trying to figure out what I want to install in my van build. So all information is good information. But I'm still a long way off. The only thing i've done so far is the installation of 2 maxair fans. Love the video's Slim, the amount of information you give us is great. Good luck !

@aliibrahim2065 3 года назад

Go back to the wood stove... at list you can use it for multiple things like cooking and it's much beautiful...

@Badgeweefixstuff 3 года назад

well ok you sort of cleared the air. you are so close. thing you missed is you never told anyone you need the hole in the summer. take the intake for heater run it into the trailer. the noise take the pump mount screw out wrap the pump with a pool noodle use a wire tie to hold the pump. now you will have it. awesome video finally. any question I will help you beat this you are so close buddy 🛠️🇨🇦🛠️🇨🇦

@debra-vs 3 года назад

Good to know you are keeping up with Slim, Badge.😊

@virginia_in_the_rearview 3 года назад

As a person who works in the Quality field, I was happy to hear you recommend to purchase something that has been tested to safety and quality standards. Excellent review!

@davidbarts6144 3 года назад

1. Insulating the warm air hose run on the outside would help with efficiency. 2. It would REALLY help efficiency to add a cold-air return hose. Then the heater would be reheating already somewhat-warm air instead of starting with frigid outside air, plus you wouldn't have a positive pressure situation inside the trailer that leaks warm air to the outdoors. 3. Adding a cold-air return hose would also stop the problem of the heater sucking its own exhaust fumes inside the trailer. 4. The thermostat is outdoors, so the heater is in an always-on state. Use some multi-conductor cable and a connector to allow the thermostat to be mounted indoors and one would get better temperature regulation. 5.A marine-grade propane heater might be a better solution. They are generally built to better standards than RV grade equipment and draw less electric power. Many RV'ers use them successfully. Biggest minus is that they cost quite a bit more than a cheap Chinese diesel heater.

@SlimPotatohead 3 года назад

1. I wasn't looking for efficiency, I wanted to keep the camper above freezing 2. Same as above 3. Incorrect. Diesel fumes enter regardless. Try spilling a puddle outside and you will see 4. I don't need a thermostat. It is only used on manual mode 5. I don't spend a lot of money on an experiment. This gave me all the details I need should I decide to upgrade. I wouldn't bank on that though! Thanks, SP

@geraldhenrickson7472 3 года назад

David, ANY problem can be overcome by throwing money at it...where are the funds for that? Where is the FUN in that? Here is something to consider. Restrain that urge to offer up a "post-video" list of what someone should have or could have done. It can be depressing at the receiving end. Think about it.

@davidbarts6144 3 года назад

@@SlimPotatohead The marine heater would have to be seen as more of a (non-trivial) investment, not an experiment. If one searches around, there's quite a few RV'ers who have used them. Plenty of existing experience to rely on. The question is whether it is personally worth spending that sort of money on a heater, and that is a question only you can answer.

@davidneilson3508 3 года назад

Two videos in one day how awesome is that 👍👍😊

@Yourgurtisgood 3 года назад

Thinking the same thing how lucky are we

@ScubaSteveCanada 3 года назад

Yes, wasn't anticipating a new one until the new year.

@jjano2320 3 года назад

I think propane is a good fuel. If you could make your furnace more efficient it would be less trouble.

@cocochanel9291 3 года назад

Awesome work SP. Your creativity and willingness to attempt new things is fantastic. Thanks for taking the time to share with all of us ! Hope you had a safe and healthy 2020.....and may you have an even better 2021 !!

@elineblind348 3 года назад

Yay you're back. Hope your holiday was great.

@mikesmith1550 3 года назад

Without neighbors, I might try putting a large piece of rigid foam board between the trailer and that fuel pump to reflect the sound away. If I was your neighbor I would object to unnecessary loud music, but not the sounds of trying to stay warm...it's just a necessity that can't be denied. Keep on camping I'm freezing in SoCal at 60F today!

@lenward474 3 года назад

Fyi if that is a legitimate CE certificate and not just a label the CE certification is actually a higher standard than the Canadian standards. If real CE your safe. I'm from the medical world where standards are scrutinized carefully.

@JanelleVocate-Ames 3 года назад

Again! So good to see you!

@mobulusmoby3864 3 года назад

Lining the inside of the metal box with some firewall sound deadening material from an autoparts store, may help dampen the sound, also...

@Alan-ur9jo 3 года назад

Top marks for a very thorough test of the diesel heater!

@bigj3086 3 года назад

I think you could make a cheap foamboard box to slide over it. Would help with the sound. Couple cutouts for the hoses and Bob's your uncle! Lol

@kristiejacobs4854 3 года назад

It’s always interesting watching your modifications and improvements. I admire your ingenuity and tenacity when you take on projects.

@karencharny1497 3 года назад

How many years have you live this adventure.4 .,5..3 ???. Do you aim for cold 😬 place

@carolecarr1064 3 года назад

House sat for a friend for 3 weeks and had to hide several clocks in insulated shopping bags in a closet. One chimed every 15 minutes! When I left I forgot one was still hidden. Oops!

@JDseller1 3 года назад

I am happy to see your experiment. Like I posted before I have only used the Expar heaters. They are much higher quality. The ones we have are mounted right under the sleeping bunk. I have never noticed any clicking noise with them. Your laying less than two feet away from them. So I am betting a different fuel pump that is quieter. The diesel smell at startup and shut down, I would bet it is because your air inlet is outside where the exhaust is. IF the heater is operating normally, the heated air and the exhaust are two completely different systems. So there should not be ANY chance of cross fuming. So I would try hooking the air inlet to your shower drain so the trailer is a closed system. This should make it a little more efficient too. As for the clicking noise, try isolating the fuel pump mounting. Bolt the pump to a piece of rubber and then bolt the rubber to the case. I do mean rubber like a mud flap in thickness. This should isolate the sound. If it is currently bolted solid to the metal case it could be acting like a sounding board, which could amplifying the sound.

@stephensgate1 3 года назад

The sound or the noise that the heater makes, I think, hopefully I could eventually get used to....I think? The big issue I have with this unit would be safety.....carbon monoxide. These things make me nervous. Other than that, you did a great job, just be careful. Thanks for sharing. Be safe. -Stephen, Ohio 🇺🇸

@fyter889 3 года назад

C0 is not an issue, fresh air that goes into the cabin never mixes with combustion fresh air or exhaust, unless the exhaust pipe is near the fresh air inlet(as explained by Slim) . This same design has been used by truckers to heat the bunk since the 70’s. No worries about carbon monoxide.

@stephensgate1 3 года назад

@@fyter889 I did not know this. Thank you for teaching me something new. God bless.

@hoser20000 3 года назад

You could make a box to sit on the back of the trailer that would work as a storage box in the summer and a heater enclosure in the winter. You could even put a solar panel on it and make it autonomous from your jackery power. It would also be better to run the heater with air from the camper. You could even run the fuel in from a bigger jerry can which could last a week or more! So you only fuel it up once when you are gassing up the car and you are good. No fumes....no fuel odors....no worries about losing power. Its a win-win-win!

@azxp 3 года назад

Nice review. I like your reviews because you pretty much cover everything. Also, you always convert metric measurements to US. That is something I want to do in my videos. I feel that is something we don't do here in the US. It is nice to watch a video, and not have to look up the conversion. Especially when there is a lot of data.

@dshsdog 3 года назад

I think the comments advised correctly that you can wrap the fuel pump in noise abating material and reduce the sound significantly. I think Slim got the wrong unit for his needs. I am not a fan of the all in one diesel heaters. I think the separate pieces heaters are a better fit. Might be why it isn't more favorable to Slim. Yes it involved making holes but he already did that

@baileydillion9331 3 года назад

Well thank you for doing this experiment with the diesel heater. I was thinking about getting a diesel heater for my RV. I definitely wouldn’t do that one. That’s way too much work. Excellent Experiment greatly appreciated. Peace and freedom

@RimdarRanch 3 года назад

LOL... "that noise"...We have a couple of wall clocks that are that loud. TICK TICK TICK. It can be really difficult to get to sleep some nights.

@TheCostOfLiving- 3 года назад

“Living inside a pacemaker”. That’s funny.

@dudleybaggerman9574 Год назад

That hole in the exhaust might be the hole they put in For Water vapor when shut off , point the hole toward the ground as ur muffler should have a hole too so point it toward the ground too !!

@danmanx2 3 года назад

Slim, I love it when you do product testing. The honesty is something many of us enjoy the most. I definitely see a great application of this for many, but the weird problems, such as the bad pipe and the overall quality of the diesel heater would probably be a danger to some. Thanks for all the warnings. I really think if you're "in a bind", this could potentially save your life though or at least keep you warm.

@johnrutherford9262 3 года назад

From my exsperiance LCD screens dont survive the cold

@vansongs 3 года назад

Not sure if it could be rigged or not, but if the pump could just free float it will be quieter. Is using all that tin as a resonator now.

@revert6417 3 года назад

There's really nice custom pumps for these things with 10 year warranties and you can barely hear them, they're expensive but it's worth paying for the peace of mind. Cheers

@mariolavergne5258 2 года назад

I repair the webasto and espar heaters in transport truck! When I bench test the heaters I use stove or furnace fuel! Less smoke and doesn’t stink as much

@SaintCoemgen 3 года назад

22:51 -- You are as nice guy to think of others. Unlike that guy who once camped next to me and ran his motor all night long to supply heating to his camper. Wow, was that annoying.

@donnasnorthernlights2089 3 года назад

How did you celebrate Christmas?

@SlimPotatohead 3 года назад

Camping. The last campout started Christmas Day. Thanks! SP

@garychristison5773 3 года назад

We were camping at a state park and a motorhome was making a really annoying rhythmic metallic noise. I got out the binoculars and spotted the source. A woodpecker was hammering away on the electrical outlet box. I felt bad for thinking it was the RV. It's good of you to think of giving fellow campers courtesy. Enjoyed the two part series, it was interesting and informative.

@Anrirua Год назад

Its always useful to blame the woodpecker in such instances. Like that curse of enclosed spaces, the barking spider.

@MrKSOrloff 3 года назад

Hi Slim. Regarding the sound from the fuel pump - try removing it from the mounting brackets. So it only hangs in the tension of the fuel hoses. I believe this will lower the sound. Happy New year !

@67macattack 3 года назад

i have been using a buddy heater for years and am trying to get away from it, i am always off grid when camping and been wondering about these for sometime, your video was simply awesome on answering my questions, as always waiting for your next one and have a Happy New Year

@gotsteem 3 года назад

Personally, I would love to have one of these heaters rather than using my Coleman Blackcat floor heater I currently use in my A frame trailer. Since your diesel heater operates with a real fuel pump, you can use the 6 gallon boat tank mod available on Ebay for Honda generators (which my friend Martin thought up shortly after he bought one way back in 2000).

@benguenther1162 3 года назад

Thank you so much for for doing the research on the diesel heater.. I had in mind to use it exactly the same way.

@FrethKindheart 3 года назад

I was wondering how much heat you're losing from the outside heater hose. I might've missed you covering that part, but is the hose insulated? Yeah, the clicking would drive me nuts too. There may be some way to minimize the noise of the pump. It's too bad they don't make a silent pump for those units.

@fourbyfourer 3 года назад

I sure do like your videos and the style of them Slim. A great review on the little diesel heater. Thank you.

@billyjahn 3 года назад

Hi Slim. I follow your escapades with interest as I bought a small caravan (About 10 Cubic Metres inside) in June last year to travel the UK, I've only had one trip in the summer though due to our lockdowns. Even though the UK doesn't get too cold I still need occasional heat as it can get chilly, currently it's -1 degree Centigrade. I didn't want a gas furnace/diesel heater/Buddy heater as I would use up my Propane in no time and/or have to find a space in my van to either fit and/or drill holes in the van. So I decided to try a Tilley Lamp for light and heat. I have just tested it and it raised the inside to 22 Degree Centigrade from 4 Degree Centigrade in an hour. Not too shabby. It uses 1.5 Imperial Pints (0.85 L) of Paraffin (Kerosene) every 12 hours, so cheap to run. Yes, you need ventilation but that's no bad thing to keep the condensation down. It stabilized at 22 C even with all the windows (Three) open an inch, hardly any condensation either. It puts out about 700W of heat by my calculations. Heat and Light for very little, Win Win as far as I'm concerned. Wonder if you would do a test? You can even cook on them if you make a small wire cage to put on the top to stabilize the pan on. So possibly a Win Win Win. I got the idea from the yachting and fishing world where they are apparently commonly used here in the UK.

@billyjahn 3 года назад

Oh and a couple of small fans to move the heat around, one horizontal and one blowing down from the roof. Obviously they produce CO, but no more than a Buddy Heater or similar propane heater, so a CO detector is vital, I ran it for 2 hours with no issues but I would never go to sleep with it running.

@PreppingOhio 3 года назад

I'm sure you know by now, if you recycle your inside air, you wont get the diesel smell in your living quarters. Also, suspend the pump (on an angle), by a rubber band, or elastic cord. It will almost completely eliminate the sound. These heaters, while being from a less than reputable dealer (common for their country of origin), do preform very well, when installed correctly. I understand that you don't want to do that, for obvious reasons. It looks like this heater is causing you a lot of stress. (I follow your channel and watch every video). Maybe you should donate it to someone, and get back to being happy. You're an inspiration to a lot of us. Happy trails in 2021, buddy. May your path be smooth and full of wonder.

@jamelcampbell4984 3 года назад

A squeegee on a telescopic handle looks like a great tool to clean water and snow off solar panels. I have a aolar aystem to install next year, I will make a squeegee for myself. Thanks for the videos. I need to finish with my diesel heater and test it before I need it.

@ScubaSteveCanada 3 года назад

I use a large squeegee that can be extended. Use it for cleaning dust or washing them. It would work for snow too, but not anything frozen on them.

@AZC1949 3 года назад

Slim, thanks for this. You saved me a lot of time trying this myself.

@hinene 3 года назад

I have a new jackery that if the load is under 10watts it will turn itself off after like 8 hrs. If you have an older jackery, it could be turning itself off sooner. For 12 volts it doesn’t have a fan, the fan it’s only when you’re using the inverter. Check the jackery manual. In my humble opinion, you’re trying to heat up outside air and vent it inside the trailer therefore your not getting 100% of the heat. The purpose it is to recycled and reheat the air inside the trailer. Greetings from California

@ScubaSteveCanada 3 года назад

Slim, really, really doesn't need to make the unit more heat efficient. 180+ degrees F is very hot.

@macgames 3 года назад

Thanks Slim, that's the kind of set up I was thinking about after seeing other videos.

@macgames 3 года назад

The clicking would drive the wife nuts...

@roseboudreaux4645 3 года назад

I have the same heater in the tongue box of my teardrop camper. The thermostat control is junk. May I ask please, where did you find the manual controller?

@SlimPotatohead 3 года назад

Amazon. Search for diesel heater knob controller. SP

@totherevolution 3 года назад

Great video. TWO in one morning. Thank you.

@jamichael9386 3 года назад

Slim, that clicking sound that drives you crazy, is it the fuel pump? or some other part of the heater?

@SlimPotatohead 3 года назад

It's the fuel pump. Thanks! SP

@dave_n8pu 3 года назад

Having worked in a factory for forty years, that taping noise you kept mentioning, I 'tuned it out' quite easily just because of worked in a noisy factory. Several times during the video I 'stopped hearing it' until you mentioned it. So I would suggest it is something that a person can get use to given enough time. Just like one time some time ago the in-laws came to visit with a pop up style of camper. We had them set up so it was shielded with the house away from the major highway that was about 500 feet away. That next morning they ask us how we could sleep with 'all that noise', we both looked at them and ask, what noise? We were use to it and didn't hear it, tuned it out.

@nejdro1 3 года назад

I remember back in the 60's, my grandparents lived about 100 yards from the North-Western railroad tracks. Every night at 9, the whole house would shake when the steam train came through at about 60 miles per hour! My grandparents never heard or felt it! :)

@G_de_Coligny 3 года назад

@@nejdro1 for these noise I also tune them out easily. But when they stop I tend to freak out knowing something has changed and being not immediately able to know/remember what.

@marilynrenaud1892 3 года назад

Wow, this was really interesting. You're a MacGyver when it comes to being creative. Smart man. Great video! 👍👍👍👍👍

@rrhopewell 3 года назад

Glad you’re back. I would totally be scared of that heater. My stepdad used propane and I absolutely loved the warmth of it. He Also has a wood stove another love of mine. Awesome review though.

@packiejoegilheany1171 3 года назад

I’m doing an RV build and seriously thinking of a small wood or pellet heater for heat. I plan on being in the southwest mostly so I think it would work well enough. I love them.