You are aware the current leads have been in zombies since WaW right? Craig has been here forever. People need to get off the meat riding stick for Jason
Sad facts, the devs who made banger after banger zombies are now gone, and the path they paved for those who replaced them was ignored and thrown aside.
I personally think it's Activision who we can't trust more than treyarch (stating the obvious). but they're really are who are limiting their creavity. I mean, it was them in the first place that forced them to end the original storyline in the manner it did
I mean there was a whole ass year 2 pass for BO4 that would've properly concluded the story line, the reason it didn't happen was because of the negative reception zombies got that year
@V.A618 It's actually because Cold War was originally supposed to be a Raven Software x Sledgehammer Games title. Production suffered from disputes between the two teams leading Activision to replace Sledgehammer with Treyarch, effectively ending Black Ops 4's DLC plans a whole year early.
@@thee2724wrong, it’s because of black out. Black out made zombies and multplayer ass. Took up kist of the money, and ot wasnt free. So they took the money and made warzone and mw19 and left it for dead.
@@42kBandz You might need to look over your comment again and make some corrections because I'm not quite sure I understand what you're trying to say here.
10:55 Honestly I think Treyarch’s been so willing to show zombies info because this is probably the first time in 5 years they’ve been able to show a game they’re proud of
They’re proud of graphics and atmosphere in their maps. Gameplay will have light replay ability and we already know that. It is literally Cold War 2.0 and who even plays that game anymore.
@@danielvaladez3210 you’re delusional to get a bo3 zombies feel from this. It is the same engine as Cold War, same zombies copy and pasted from Cold War, same zombie health bar from Cold War, same dark aether from Cold War die maschine, you play as operators same as Cold War, you get to start with an assault rifle same as Cold War, I can go on and on but you are lost.
@novanity9611 Lots of people lol. That's like saying, "who even plays BO3 anymore?" Obviously, people still play those games. There's a reason Cold War was the most played Zombies game.
I trust Treyarch , I do not however trust Activisions meddling and overworking of Devs. Call of Duty NEEDS a change when it comes to releases. No more one year cycles. Let games stand on their own and breathe, give each title a few years of development and atleast a 3-4 year life cycle
The problem with that, is if the game sucks, we are stuck with it for 2 or 3 times longer than a normal cycle. Cods yearly releases has kept the series as relevant as it has been for basically 2 decades, new game every year fuels the system. I personally like the yearly system, but Cod does need to take a couple years break, just let all the devs reset and catch their breath. Cod needs another franchise reset like how MW19 was a reboot, this new "Warzone era" is the worst Cod has ever been, it needs to change and can only happen with taking some time off and starting from scratch.
@@Nitroh- Easiest way to avoid bad games being released in general is boatloads of community feedback, and multiple private/public playtests to ensure quality and gameplay standards are up to standards and expectations of fans.
@commandershepard6856 community feedback means jack shit with Cod devs, maybe SHG tend to be a bit more lenient, but IW especially don't give a shit about feedback, hence why MW II was so bad. The biggest issue with Cod is Warzone, for some reason they have to now use the MW19 engine and warzone mechanics in multiplayer, its horrendously bad and is killing the game. They need to make a whole new engine or go back to old ones, and each dev needs their own unique engine again, like we had before 2019.
@@Nitroh- we live in the day of live service, if the game is bad, it can be made good within the time we have with it MW3 is really just a large MW2 update that fixed many of MW2s issues and it's great because of it
@@flamingscar5263 Playing catch up and fixing what should never have been ruined is not good in the slightest lol. Mw III is horrendous, MW II is horrendous, neither is better than the other they both are garbage games. The last 3 years alone has been the worst and lowest points Cod has ever been, live service and rushing out unfinished games is the problem...
I want to scream at the developers. Why do they insist on ruining the zombies mode. The last good zombies mode was BO3 and instead of going back, they keep taking it further in the opposite direction. They are actually delusional.
A big issue is just the the base of the Cold War System. Weapon rarity, salvage, streaks, armor, points on kill, health bars, load outs, operators. There’s probably more that I can’t think of but overall, in my opinion, the Cold War system is simply a bad modernisation of the Zombies system. BO3 was the perfect balance of complexity and choice whilst still being barebones and grounded. BO4 was pushing the bar but Cold War was simply too much. Zombies just doesn’t feel special anymore. Just feels like the Warzone system integrated into Zombies. BO3 will forever be the peak of Zombies. Nothing else comes close and they’ll never release an experience like it, even down to just how the movement and gunplay felt. I will go into his game with low expectations and hopefully find a way to enjoy it.
Ah yes, the illogical logic that less is better No they won’t take out systems already proven to work and sell That’s just insane to think that you guys want less
@@bradleyjenkins2271 Quality > quantity. Cold war implemented soo many new systems which fall flat for many people. Literally everyone comes to the conclusion that for BO4 having 4 maps on launch was a disaster. So yes less is better.
You havent not been paying attention to game. If you were paying attention you'd know that bo6 healthbars are entirely optional since the ui is customisable af. Operators are optional we know there will be set crews for the maps so its more alike WWII zombies. Even then some systems in coldwar are perfectly fine, some dont work as well but overall having some of bo3 and some of bocw is definitely the right direction and even if it was just more coldwar but with better maps I would be more than happy with that since although not perfect, bocw is still a great zombies mode
I think the story looks interesting, it’s nice to know Sam is back most likely as the announcer and she’s the main threat, but in terms of gameplay I’m skeptical.
I definitely think things are brewing. It's just been taking so long. Nearly 4 years we've been waiting for stuff to get good and MWZs new cutscene was solid and LF was solid. I'm with you that things look interesting as of the last couple days and am now hopeful but the dark aether has been a snooze fest so far. And yeah gameplay stuff is scary. Only time will tell!
@@AfterlifeAnalysiswhile i agree the dark aether storyline has been uninteresting i just have this feeling the 3arc team is getting their confidence back and not scared to just risk it like they did back then with their creativity which i feel they are going to do this year around, i am open to the fact that maybe it just isnt that great though when it releases but i just get this energy from them as of recently
liberty falls is ass the gameplay looks good but the map had no soul didn't look like zombies but... the terminus island map looks very good. In adition this was a beta some featurs weren't present aswell as us not having expirienced the game our selfs
@mariosskliop7324 Idk man. The new map does look cool, Terminus, but im not excited for crafting and armor plates. I just hope they take dat stuff outta terminut
I don’t like Bo6s art style and gameplay features that are identical to Cold War Zombies, like whenever I watch Bo2-Bo4 zombies gameplay and then watch Coldwar/Bo6 gameplay its like day and night.
After watching the gameplay reveal today, I can confirm that Treyarch can NOT be trusted. Compare the Liberty Falls gameplay to the Terminus gameplay. It looks like completely different games.
Honestly, Im not sure whats so hard for the devs to understand. WAW, BO1, BO2, and even though i wasn’t a fan, BO3, were all great games that were the golden years of zombies and Treyarch. If they just took what worked then, threw in some new textures and maps, and maybe a handful of new mechanics and different things to keep gameplay interesting, they’d have a great game. Instead, they’re trying to reinvent the wheel by just throwing every idea at the wall, and seeing if anything sticks. And in my opinion, not a thing has. To be fair though, if you ask me, there hasn’t even been a good cod multiplayer since MW19, and before that, BO2.
I really don't like the way zombies is looking but I will say that I'm having a blast with the multiplayer and I haven't felt that way since modern warfare 2
@@JB2FROSTY i agree, i played the beta last night and mp is pretty good. Wish they wouldve given us more than 3 maps but it is beta so im not too hurt about it
Cold War made zombies feel like a looter shooter. Personally not a fan of it. I prefer bo2-bo4 style zombies. And the main EEs were too easy. I wish they were difficult like bo4 so it feels like an accomplishment. Not just anyone can do it.
I can’t lie, I just want them to go back to the basics of zombies. Literally give us bo3 gameplay and feel with a few new features. To me, the best thing about zombies was purely the simplicity of start with a pistol and gradually work your way up to powerful guns and perks. Spawning with full auto weapons and having instant get out of jail free cards is not zombies for me
Most things about BO6 zombies look promising. But I think cod 2025 being another Black Ops game already means that again treyarch cant fully focus on this game, this time during the dlc seasons. Also one thing to note about the gobblegums is they just said that they can be obtained ingame and require no ingame currency like liquid divinium or gambling system, which is great, but that doesnt mean they wont sell them for cod points while making the free in game earn rate super slow.
Think the problem here is that some genres are defined by how they change and that can be a good thing, but also you need to ask what made the game mode successful in the first place. Change is not necessarily bad, but when you look at how zombies changed between WAW, and the different BO installations, the changes were always very minimal and what they did introduced did not change the core mechanics of the game. As soon as they began to do that there was pushback. Things such as weapon rarity, armor plates, point system changes, and upgradable skills pretty much made Cold War Zombies a new gamemode as more things were changed than actually remained the same. Something tells me the higher ups making these games think the thing that we actually like is the zombies. It is not. It's everything that comes with the game. Which is what they have continued to change. Between BO2 and BO3 the only changes we saw were new maps. gobblegums, weapon choices, playable characters, and ammo mods. That's literally it and it was one of the most successful zombies modes ever released. People are not craving a new system, they are craving new content and those are not the same thing. Chronicles was an extremely successful DLC as well and thats literally just rereleased maps. They are completely clueless as to what the people want.
I'm honestly gonna chalk it up as this is Treyarch's last chance to keep their mode alive. I think if this iteration of Zombies flops... I'm gonna step back. It's been a fun run, but with Cold War, I thought it was a nice step in a new direction. And then vanguard happened. And then MWZ happened. I totally get that budget and schedules are a whole issue on their own though. But... I feel like they saw Outbreak as the next big thing and went a little too hard in it.
@@mychealmcknight7963honestly outbreak can be really good they just needed to refine and innovate the mode but they went wrong with dmz trying to merge it with warzone
@@wyzuwert6438 honestly I didn't like outbreak but it was pretty fun mainly Cold war outbreak modern warfare 3 I feel like they did way too much to overcomplicate it and the fact that you have a time limit you play it really hurts it as well in my eyes so honestly I wasn't a fan of that one so I just kept playing Cold war Plus modern warfare 3 was not solo friendly for the higher tier enemies in the dark aether
I think the reason why these past few zombies werent that great or off was because none of those games besides cold war, were their games. It felt like they just pushed it out because they were told to, dont know if you pointed that out or not but it would make sense. Espically with the way they have been HEAVILY showing us zombies this time around, it adds up to that point
I think the only thing that has me really worried for BO6 as a whole, especially for zombies is texture streaming requiring that the game can only be played online. If I get MWZ lag in a solo match on BO6, could kill the entire experience
Treyarch can always be trusted but they’ve been cut thin for their last game due to vanguard needing them this is the first full cycle game we’re getting from them
@@astralnaught9431 BO4 unfortunately didn't have the full cycle itself, It got rushed out the door, it's budget heavily cut early on and then had most of the team pulled off to work on Cold War, Last game that got a Full Dev cycle was BO3(and that actually got more then the usual Dev cycle due to Chronicles)
@@astralnaught9431 calling them comic style is honestly a compliment, I get the vibe the cutscenes are actually the storyboarding for the intended-cutscene but with color added.
I think Kevin Drew is the best fit for the “face of zombies” he’s seen how the community was during BO3 and BO2. He helped bring those games to life. Also I believe this level of transparency is coming straight from him, not Activision. He has taken up the mantle of the zombies mode like no one has before him. Jason was always cryptic about stuff which is great for long time stays of zombies players but it completely alienated anyone new from joining the community. And Jimmy is probably the closer to how Kevin is running things a little bit more casual experiences and being a bit more open. If Kevin and the team can find that middle ground between the hardcore playerbase and still be approachable by anyone new trying to get in and play it. We’ve hit gold. And from everything I’ve seen, this is getting pretty damn close to that line, not fully there until I’ve seen more but very close.
You're absolutely spitting in this video, this was a great watch from start to end. The COD lifecycle has just been the same for too many years now. Until this comes out and gets great reviews, I'm not getting hyped
The only possible way of zombies coming back is a stand-alone game where they bring literally a BO3 2.0 system with all maps from WAW - BO4 and adding the Great War map (original BO4 finale) and also the Atlantis and Egypt Chaos story maps, this would be a fucking dilutional fantasy but I can't see any other way of zombies beeing great again, BO6 is just CW 1.5 and is looks damn ASS
I did trust treyarch a lot until this year I realize they dnt have the same of staff a whole new staff is here they can’t do what the original had done b4 unfortunately even with as much prep time they had to get this game released I hope the multiplayer is enjoyable as least bc ik zombies storyline and the Easter eggs won’t hit the same like older treyarch games did before god how much I miss the old days😭
Honestly theres just a distinct lack of charm with the latest zombies modes. The phrase less is more is something zombies practically lived by. Maps are kinda hollow with them just being another testing facility instead of anything more unique or adding a spin to the settings. Armor being in zombies along with juggernog with killstreaks and self revives that are consumables feels out of place. Weapon rarities feels unnecessary since figuring out which weapons were actually good was also a part of the fun for new gamed and maps. Easter eggs back in bo1 were simple and didnt have a tutorial mode for casual players and felt far more rewarding for completion. The storyline is just nowhere near as interesting as old waw. Thr ability to extract every 5 rounds is kinda wack and why it wasnt made for every 10 to make the decision more impactful and much harder to accomplish is kinda weird to me. Difficulty should directly come from the maps not the weapons or resources. Five is a difficult map with nova crawlers, pentagon thief, and lots of tight spaces made the map far more difficult compared to the other launch map and actually progressing through a map should be what makes you powerful imo. These are just some of my gripes but im giving the game a fair shake anyway i can give some smaller nitpicks like no pack a punch animation or weapons dropping from zombies but when the game launches and i can have as much fun as any of the older games then itd be a good incarnation of zombies in my book. Maybe not the best but a version in its own right.
Cold War killed zombies. The game mode I loved is dead to me. It saddens me that the community settles with what we have now, when what we had was far superior
Hard disagree. This is easily going to be the best zombies experience of all time, it's taking the Cold War formula and perfecting it. Cold War to me, was the exact thing Zombies NEEDED to stay fresh and not bland and boring, we're eating good. I'm sorry you can't accept change
1,2, and 3 we're peak zombies, and if Bo4 didn't do that bullshit perk system, i would have given it a pass, and Cold War was good, but the having to gather materials to upgrade weapons was a stupid idea tho
Treyarch is the only developer team for COD I trust, hell I think that they would’ve been super successful if they only made a game surrounded around zombies and just cut all ties with COD
The cod is going to be trash too. Liberty Falls is a recycled multiplayer map, and transit is coming back, which is mostly recycled too. There are tons of signs that nothing has actually changed with the microsoft aquisition.
Amazing video Afterlife! Though I do I think you're underestimating how much of the fault lies on the hands of Sledgehammer. They haven't ever made a single good CoD game, and every time they've made a game recently, they've needed Treyarch to drop everything they're working on to clean up their mess. When was the last time a 3arc game came out without them having to leave mid way through the life cycle to bail out Sledgehammer?
@supercopmeetthecop yeah I 100% agree. I think that Activision does have the "final say" whatever that means. But I also think devs have much more of a choice than fans think. Bc if Activision gets blamed for all the bad then they should be praised for all the good. But most fans generally only think that devs can do good things and publishers can do bad things. And that just doesn't make sense. I guess we will never know the full truth, but you're definitely not wrong with your comment. Although I did like WW2.
@@AfterlifeAnalysis Activision gets a lot of hate, and I'd say 99% of it is earned. But you're right, they usually do take the full brunt of the blame, even in the instances where it's not their fault. Also I kind of agree about WW2. it's definitely the best Sledgehammer CoD imo, It just didn't measure up to a lot of the other games in the series. That's just my opinion of course, it's all a matter of taste.
@supercopmeetthecop yeah I think you're right. It isn't the best compared to the others. It just had a jenky charm to it. Like driving an old beater car. It worked. But not ideal hahah
@okokokok1457 Sledgehammer games seems to be a third wheel in the trio. Teyarch has blackops, Infinity ward has Modern warfrae. Sledgehammer has made cod games that resemble spin-off ideas. (Aw, WW2, Mw3, Vanguard, etc.) So its seems that sledgehammer has a lack of good standing. Rather than they are hated or disliked. They simply dont have a series people are in love with.
As someone who has been playing zombies way back to waw, bo1, bo2. Bo2-bo3 are my favorite however i actually really liked cold war. I feel the system bring more to the game then "get gud gun, shoot zombie's, pack a punch, die". I think the rarity system is a great way to make a goal for regular guns and also wonder weapons. People often complain cus "we want old zombies" then go play bo2 or bo3. That zombies timeline ended with bo4. They know they have to spice up the formula and change it. And the storyline looks really interestin. People are so overnegative now. Im personally excited to give it a chance, all treyarch zombies have been W besides bo4.
It’s always so weird to see you with less subs than I do when your content deserves all the attention and more and you should be at a millions subs by now
The biggest reason I will not be buying this is the lack of offline support. An online only game lives and dies by its player count when they deem it’s not profitable no longer bye bye bo6.
the sooner we can move past black ops 3 the better imo clinging onto that game as the peak of what zombies has been and can possibly be can and will kill the gamemode - despite what a lot of people think, just because we grew up with it doesn't mean bo3 was perfect (far frok it in fact) it's funny how the story that was essentially about letting the past go to allow the future to thrive has such a huge following that won't do the same
@gibletti I love bo3. But I like BO4 better and I just want that style back that we saw in those days with the map design. And of course a little more difficulty.
I grew up with black ops 1, peak was reached in 3 when you compare it with what came after, it didn't need to end that way, but that's what ended up happening
Omg thank you I’ve played this mode from WaW and people put 3 up so impossibly high, I get it I liked the game too but just because cod isn’t making bo3 zombies again doesn’t mean it’s immediately bad I swear the people complaining haven’t actually put in the time to give these modes a chance. Me and my friends have had a stupid amount of fun with Cold War, Bo4 and MWZ
The problem with that is Bo3 was peak of zombies The look The gameplay The characters The story Ever since Bo3. zombies has unfortunately missed out on one Or multiple of the points above
victim blaming I see. The customer is the one who consumes. To blame the customer is outrageous. They have removed barriers for christ sakes. They have massacred my boy.
I had some fun in Cold War but the Cold War system is so far from what zombies is. Bo3 was extremely successful and the pinnacle of zombies so I don’t understand why treyarch won’t develop zombies with systems that are proven to work and proven to be successful and popular. If I was a developer I’d realize what worked the best and build on that
The thing is nobody's happy with anything nowadays because you know people got different taste people like the old school zombies people like the new zombies they added but the problem is you can't make everyone happy because if they kept using the same system from world of war all the way up to Black ops 3 and it kept using that system all the way up until 2024 do you not realize how many people will complain about that saying they're not innovating enough so either way nobody wins
@@mychealmcknight7963its not about leaving the game exactly like it is for 15 years. Its about the core mechanics like the point system, pap, perks and so on. They changed the very things that made the Mode so special and loved just for the Sake of change
@@theaustriangamer I'm sorry to say but it's a billion dollar company do you think they care about those tiny little features and that's coming from me that's been playing zombies since 2008 they don't care anymore
@@theaustriangamer i honestly disagree, the perks, Pap system were done really well in CW. I never liked the older system that much. You bought a wall buy, pap it twice, hit the box or do ee to get wonder weapon, pap it or upgrade it and boom you're set up. It was really boring, i could never get to round 40 on those games because of how boring it was. All you did was train zombies in an area for hours.
@@ALph4ZeR00CW isn’t much different you’re setup by round 20 instead of 12 and have additional the option to stand in a corner with ring of fire instead of run in circles (also still works) At least the older games don’t crash when I try to play a match for longer than 8 hours.
I can totally understand this. For me i didnt mind MW3 Zombies because its not a Treyarch game. It seemed apparent that the best work would go to their next game. Don't get me wrong not having round based sucked but it didn't bother me considering they did what they could. Sledgehammer got a lot of restrictions from Infinity Ward as well who seemed pretty stubborn about MW2 and how it played and felt (which was slow with low ttk making a big camping meta). I'm hoping Black Ops 6 will genuinely be good.
man after seeing cod next, they dropped the ball. The gameplay is horrible, mini maps, loud outs, armour plates, and warzone HUD, we’re never getting round based zombies, and they should just realize the community wants the classic stuff
they should sell the rights of zombies to someone else. A mid tier developed who loved bo3 bo2 era.... would be able to make an actual game for the sake of the game itself.
It would be awesome if Jason Blundell opened his own studio and made his own game like zombies kind of like the dead space guy did but better than Callisto protocol lol
Thats insane to me since alpha Omega was the map i was addicted to in bo4 ive done the ee multiple times and the map i high round the most. Cant believe that was made by a studio they gave it too, in order to finish it
The game will be good. It's just my biggest worry is the stability of the game because of the always texture streaming that's not good for the game. Not everyone has a good internet
armor system crap, new point system crap, lack of atmosphere crap, Warzoneification of zombies crap............ I cant not believe what they have done. I don't understand why. Why are they doing this. It's like a psy op. Liberty balls is an abomination. It spits in the face of the soul of zombies. BO4 zombies was a masterpiece compared to what this is looking like. Cold War was truly the end, this game with by the corpse being eaten by satan.
I feel like the constant dogging on Coldwar zombies is weird. I found alot of it very fun. I liked the "grind". I liked the weapon rarity. I liked starting with your load out and having to upgrade it. The maps were okay. Not as bad as everybody made them out to be
Personally I enjoyed Cold War Zombies, coming from a WAW Zombies vet, and I am looking forward to this too. Regardless of what they say there will be haters. I have always been an optimist regardless of all the shite. We can all agree it wont be worse than vanguard.
I would love to see different aspects of the dark ether, like some maps with different themes have different themes for the dark ether, like everything's on fire and basically just a hellscape, or it's a little more calm and tame in some way I'm not totally sure. But I just think that That could be really cool, especially to add identity to the map.
BO4 and after just hasn’t had a map that everyone remembers and loves and talks about. Every other zombies experience has people pulled in different directions about what the best map from that game was. I don’t even have a favorite map from BO4 and up. It’s just not the same boys, and I think we have to move on. They will never get there again💔
Really solid video as always, my spirit had been crushed by recent zombies games 😂 so I hadn’t been watching bo6 closely but now I’m cautiously optimistic about this new experience
What I don’t get about activision is that they already have buckets of money. Now that they already have that money, why don’t they use it to make a good passion project? They just be adding features purely for money purposes. But if they make a good game, that will get them plenty of money, if not more than what they’re getting now
Ngl, personally I got screwed over with: Vanguard, MW2, MW3 and if this is gonna happen to me on Bo6 I will quit playing Call of Duty. I try to go in neutral, but we will see what will happen when the „full“ game will be released
wtf of course they can be trusted. Cold War wasn’t even supposed to be their game. Sledgehammer fucked it up so treyarch had to step in and turn a turd into a golden turd and they had to develop it when Covid lockdowns started. Bo4 zombies was only shit because Jason blundell was truly a bad lead developer and fucked up bo3 campaign. Then he made some stupid ass changes to in bo4. I’m glad they got rid of him.
BO4 was Blundell Fault, but it was Also Treyarch's fault for just agreeing to every little thing he wanted. Craig Houston has confirm that Chaos wouldve been the Year 1 of Black ops pass with Classified being a Final Send off for Ultimas to go out in a high note due to the blacklash BO3 story. Also Activision was also in blame for making Treyarch scrap story mode and builting a new engine 8 months before release.
@@CactusInsane He’s the lead dev… they kinda have to agree with him. And yes Activsion is almost always also at fault when a cod ends up bad. Forcing treyarch to add some bullshit into bo4. But yeah without sledgehammer fuckin shit up and without Activsion fuckin shit up and without Jason fuckin shit up, treyarch makes W cods.
@49HEALTH I mean with IX, Dead of the Night, and Classified. It showed the true potential BO4 zombies had to create something new and special. The issues is the multiple interfering, Jason scarping his original plans when VAs had to be rescheduled for voice work and spending way too much time trying to make Blackout with the New engine, rather than sticking with the BO3 engine. As it was clearly meant to work with the BO3 engine
I was one of the people that never got into round based and then my friend group fell in love with MWZ. Well once we figured out how to use tombstone lol. I am sad that it won’t be making a return.
I think content creators are the ones we can’t trust. BO4 was basically killed by MrRoflWaffles and it didn’t deserve the hate that he brought it. I think he is the main reason why we won’t ever get a continuation of Chaos zombies. As long as the community’s keeps getting brainwashed by these engagement farmers, zombies will always catch undeserved hate.
Alright afterlife, old cod player here like old old like first zombies map Waw when it first came out old am just saying this is that They had an interesting storyline in the original. But after the Moon base they didn't know what to tell after that so they started the whole other storylines instead cause I think its just other people wanted to put there own input into the zombies genre and see what sticks cause they lost me after a while believe me I've TIRED to understand everything which I do but its still what I said earlier was "other people wanted to put there own input into the zombies genre and see what sticks" so in my head canon is that the crew pretty much have to do one epic final battle with richtofen in Sams body where they have to pretty much overload the pyramid which cause richtofens soul to be infused with so much aether energy that it was too much and made he's soul explode and be destroyed but allowed sam to get her body back, after all of the infected were all now laying on the ground lifeless as both the station, and the pyramid are destroyed another version of Maxis opened a portal with child eiddie which they went into so they traveled back into the present of their time but only at the ending of world war 2 of 1945 and they all lived happily ever after the end. Boom make another zombies storyline that doesn't involve the original characters.
Zombies had been dead as a doornail since Blundell left. Really since BO3. Everything else has been a PATHETIC excuse. If you haven't been paying attention, go ask a "new player" what they think of zombies. They will tell you it's a casual fun mode to level up their weapons without the pressure of multiplayer and warzone. THAT is why it's full of operators and loadouts and skins. THAT is why it has a bunch of fundamentally useless warzone features. THAT is why the pathetic pack a punch with a NO ANIMATION AND A MENU exists, and the armor system. THAT is why it's so easy now. It's for the kids who have been coddled by SBMM to level up their weapons. That's literally all zombies is seen as from the architectural position of activision. That's what activision explains to the directors and hiring managers at treyarch, and that's how it will be designed, and how it has been designed for the last 5 years. Do not forget this.
yeah you’ll seem them in the comments telling people who liked bo3 and want to see more to go play that game and leave lol, zombies as we know it is dead
Cold War redeemed zombies after BO4. Treyarch couldn't turn it into the game they wanted to be due to COVID, Kevin Drew himself said that they wanted a crew but couldn't have it due to the pandemic. Now its finally time to step up to the next level with BO6. Treyarch itself has been exhausted with ATVI's management, and now they got 4 years to create a masterpiece. I won't doubt them. They're human beings aswell, and went through things much worse than the zombies community. Crunch time, mismanegement by higher ups, lack of resources. It'll be a good game now that they have it all.
Sure I am not disagreeing with any of that. I just believe that it's okay to have doubts and concerns as a consumer bc regardless of all of those situations they still charged full price, had poor stability, packed with bundles etc. I also think it'll be a good game (as I stated during the video) but we have a long way to go and whos to say Activision won't do treyarch dirty again? Anyways, thanks for the good faith exchange!
Really good and thought out video. Personally I wasn't a big fan of cold war so I've been burned longer than most, but BO6 seems to have changed or made some of the features better so It's looking quite promising. Its sad that I have to be scared about getting excited for a new game.
i actually would like to beat the bo6 easter eggs on second try for the first play-throughs at least. i wouldn’t really want them any harder than that tbh. the thing i like about easter eggs is doing them over and over and over again as crazy as it sounds, maybe i’m just weird idk. so i wouldn’t want them overly difficult otherwise it just makes re-playability harder/not fun and just makes helping other players complete them harder aswell which is no bueno. KISS
Yes absolutely. I'm answering before even watching the video, the other guys just cant do Zombies like Treyarch can. I know they made Vanguard (and MWZ?) but they were forced to take over (I guess same for Cold War, but I believe they had control of that for far longer than the others before release) but they can absolutely be trusted, theirs are the best for a reason.
I hate to be this guy, but I think the biggest problem is how close minded the community is. And I’m guilty of this as well. The past zombies titles had hardware limitations that restricted so much creativity, and we got waw through bo4. And we LOVED it. It was simple, yet infinitely replayable. But now, we expect that back. And we don’t have as many of those hardware limitations. In my opinion, I LOVE the older games, but we have to start looking at these newer games with open mindedness, cause we are never getting the old ones back. Vanguard sucked, and outbreak was extremely rough. Round based is definitely the best formula. But after a while, after people adjusted, Cold War did really well and is now considered one of those zombies experiences people look back on with atleast some positive experiences. I know it’s not the original, but once we give new things a chance, we find that it’s a decently nice change. I have high high hopes for bo6. I’m going into it with an open mind.
Y'know I'd love you to someday do a map by map breakdown of Infinite Warfare, i love the way youre treating BO4 and i feel that IW being so divided among the community would make your videos just as good as it did with BO4. Lotta love to you Skeptix 🙏
Love you too dude, and I will get to IW probably next year after some BO6 stuff dies down. I have a release plan, just ticking off one box at a time. IW is going to get super fair treatment from me. I already have the thumbnails made and everything.
Cold War Zombies suffered where it was originally a SHG game, and they've proven time and time again they're not so in touch with Zombies(Exo Zombies, WW2, Vanguard, MWIII). This seems like BOCW Zombies but more Treyarch influence, so it'll be run but definitely flawed. I'm worried about the gameplay lacking the HUD, the meat boss is very clearly on the same rig as the Mimic(MW devs bragged about how easy their in-house rigging system is last year), and really nothing crazy popping out. There isn't even a hellhound in the trailer for BO6 Zombies and after seeing how fugly theu were in MWIII, I'm worried not seeing Tempests, Panzers, whatever other shit from BOCW that isn't standard Zombies because the inverse I'd hope for would be even bigger hordes using the next gen capability.
I'll be honest the gameplay trailers killed all of my remaining interest for modern zombies, it's the same slop we've had since the new engines were used and I will be sticking to Black Ops 3 for life, it seems
managing your point to get your perk,door, Power with all that cost.....it is unnecessary. cosidering how thing gonna cost. Points. 2500 and then add 500 to each perk. 8 perk. you need already 28500 points to get all perk. plus all all those doors. plus another 15000 for Armor bc They said it is ballsy enough to toss Armor as wallbuy. and then 50000 for all pack a punch. let alone gain 115/90 point just FOR KILL ONLY..... bruh man... Bo3 and prior point system would have much more use for points for this. Each map you have to force to stay around 6-8 before open the Power. Armor Plating: Why IS A WARZONE SHIT. brought into a Zombie. Can Treyarch STOP CATHERING EVERYTHING around Multiplayer and Warzone. Thanks to that. Zombie is losing it identity. why wasnt COLD War Armor not in B06? now you have to micromanage your Armor, points, tacticals, salvage, lethal etc. HUD: 4 years to create this....but did they even bother to fully customize to turn off like scoring in the center of your screen. turn off the map radar. turn off teamate HP and armor of allies, Dmg numbers etc
I feel like treyarch are going to do well on this game, my only worry is that because the map is so big maybe it'll take a bit to get from place to place. But overall I'm hyped for the continuation of the characters from cold war (I think they're pretty cool!) and I like the mix of both mob and zetzubo for the map design, and for me it feels like they're trying to go back to that bo3 formula while also trying new stuff in the new perks and bigger maps, etc. This has been the only zombies game I've been hyped for since the der eisndrech dlc lmfao.
I made a point like this earlier today on reddit in which I sort of said that I think this will be bo4 2. Let me explain: before bo4 released, the hype was built up a lot, and I mean a lot. Nobody could wait till the game released and everyone was disappointed when that happened. Now with bo6, the marketing team is shining very bright as always and we all want the game. My prediction is that bo6 will still be a good game but I do think the old community won’t like it that much. No game, not even bo3, can live up to this amount of hype.
I'd agree except they definitely could've. Back then zombies fans wanted a conclusion to the aether story and they decided to split the maps and direction for two stories and gave the aether story all old maps and a lackluster ending with multiplr budget cuts and putting more resources into a storyline people just didn't care about. I mean they didn't even animate the final aether cutscene aside from the walking segment. Ntm they added multiple gameplay changes that were unnecessary like limiting perks with a perk loadout and four machines
The momentum for Aether going into Bo4 was insane Then they randomly decided to start Chaos and while the maps were good the story was kinda nothing and that kinda nothing story got more focus then the end of the story THAT MADE THE FUCKING MODE POPULAR Bo4 upsets me lol Also it showed even less of a reason to care for Chaos as they could just start a new story Before finishing their first
