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Can US A-10 & F-16 Protect Tankers From Iranian MANPAD-Equipped Gunboat Swarm? (WarGames 152) | DCS

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@grimreapers Год назад

LOTS OF YOU have asked for a follow-up using Cluster Bombs, already tried that here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-a7JG7uLiq7o.html

@johnaikema1055 Год назад

just do it😁

@wolf06291980 Год назад

This is true. Respectfully, these boats are running 20kts slower than the referenced video. Perhaps that makes up the difference.

@mm3mm3 Год назад

Will cluster bombs really work on water?

@wolf06291980 Год назад

@@mm3mm3 Yes, The ones that fling out self homing pucks used to target moving tanks. Like the CBU-97

@mm3mm3 Год назад

@@wolf06291980 Thank you very much

@dennisarzubiaga2833 Год назад

The simulation I always wanted to see. Most realistic but dangerous mission.

@acometsuranian1325 Год назад

well not realistic , remember that they are SAM sights on shore and islands.

@voidwalker9223 Год назад

@@acometsuranian1325 sure but majority of them cannot reach other than maybe a Iranian S-300 (which they would not put on any of the islands only protect high value mainland cities) but still very limited. Even if they are in range most of the missiles would run out of energy by the time they try to hit the middle of the Gulf.

@mm3mm3 Год назад

Thank you Cap for all of your hard work making these videos. I couldn’t start my day without them!

@grimreapers Год назад

thx

@jansenart0 Год назад

Navy needs a Seahog variant.

@HauntedXXXPancake Год назад

Valued Viewer Request: "Project Battle-Tanker" Dear Super Cap, Seeing the vast Deck Area of that Super Tanker, I started salivating / sniggering like a giddy child over the idea, how many mobile weapons-platforms you could put on there and what ridiculous enemies it thus could engage. I hope you will do your best / worst with that concept 😋 Best wishes Matt from Denmark

@Davros-vi4qg Год назад

Been modelled conceptually by at least two navies. ‘Containerised’ systems. Unfortunately containers are really good at not being waterproof and also build humidity… not what u want for electronics.

@MrNakedweasel Год назад

Back in the 80's and 90's, we also considered the Rockeye II cluster bomb as a light anti ship Munition.

@fatboypilot Год назад

I would have had one A10C or F16 as FAC or laser designator lazing. And use another two A10Cs with APKWS (HE) and just kept them in a yo-yo pattern at 5-4 miles from the boats. Fire one, break off. 45 to 60 seconds later, number two fires and so on while lazing hight above the boats. You could have two teams of three doing something like that

@nigeldepledge3790 Год назад

Cap : " . . . Discipline will be everything. " Me : Yeah, but . . . BRRRT!

@casteg52 Год назад

Couple of MOABs, just for awesomeness.

@mohammadrezayazdani7913 Год назад

Iran now has vertical-firing air defense boats and boats with cruise missiles, torpedoes, and drones. These boats shown here are old.

@grimreapers Год назад

Agree but I don't have them in game yet.

@brianloomis9351 Год назад

The combination of F16's and A10's are a great combination. The F16's can arrive on station first, cause the Iranians to evade, thereby slowing the advance. Then, the A10's come behind and take out everything that's left. AMC, if necessary, the F16's could rearm and mop up.

@Ragnarok691 Год назад

Simba living on the edge. Nice flying.

@Uriel77200 Год назад

Got to be a cheaper way to kill a small boat. Apache and Sea Cobra come to mind

@cryhavoc999 Год назад

Looks like a job for Brimstone! They are 50 KGs each with 30+ miles of range each with 6 kg warhead while Maverick is 210-300 KGs depending on version with 12+ miles of range but has a much larger warhead - 57 kgs. Typhoon can theoretically carry 18 of them on 6 pylons.

@Pablo668 Год назад

That was really good. Strangely enough, I think it would be a tad more realistic if the fleet of attack boats turned tail and ran after a number of them were destroyed.

@jugganaut33 Год назад

Why? When they’ve got 72 virgins waiting for them? They’re well aware they’re going to die attacking a fleet of warships. Most realistic would be AShm and suicide drones attacking at the same time. Attacking a US warship means war. If you’re gonna fire the first shot. It’s not going to be half arsed

@Davros-vi4qg Год назад

No ‘morale’ setting in DCS?

@Abdullahkhan00881 Год назад

they would probably be punished *VERY* severaly

@syncopatedfeb4770 Год назад

they are not runaway gay marines lol

@Abdullahkhan00881 Год назад

@@syncopatedfeb4770 but still, iran has a slight history of punishing ppl that don't obey them

@NigelTufnel612 Год назад

I can't think of many things more fun than strafing Iranian gunboat stragglers in a A-10 with my finger pressed on the trigger of the GAU-8 Avenger cannon!

@grimreapers Год назад

Agree

@piconano Год назад

Love these Persian Gulf wargames.

@TheStormpilgrim Год назад

For kicks and giggles, how about a C-130 dropping a MOAB into the center of their formation from 20,000 feet? The boats that don't get destroyed would end up being piloted by crews with ruptured organs.

@ii_trooperlawz3912 11 месяцев назад

Ooh thats a good idea and maybe even a ac-130 vs alot of gunboats

@alanmike6883 Год назад

Kobayashi maru scenario for the gang 😁

@kamcsatkaiarabiuszjeno9673 Год назад

Thank you Squirrel for the airshow!

@notsureyou Год назад

A bunch of Lancaster's with Grand slam bombs, And create a massive wave close to and in front of the boats (causing them to capsize etc) Or B52's with M.O.A.B

@AMOUREDD Год назад

Uncle Sam oil is under threat in his enemy's yard

@gibbo_303 Год назад

5:45 I assume they would have a flight or 2 of A-10s orbiting like you would while running a CAP mission. Apparently they are also going to send F-35s to the Persian gulf region

@brianloomis9351 Год назад

An F35 in beast mode loadout could be very effective

@OzcarMike641 Год назад

Some great flying by Squirrel

@jrizos06 Год назад

Cannonball and Drop came through in the end with some great shooting, nice job!

@paladamashkin8981 Год назад

Something to consider on this cap, is that the warthogs will be dragging on the tankers. That is why they sent them is because the high lawyer time they can just kind of hang out with the tankers and be closer instead of a scramble situation which is exactly what the falcons are for

@Sterlingcape Год назад

Great video Cap!

@davidn3394 Год назад

This was so good thanks.

@localracer Год назад

How I love a good experiment! Nice work out there. Those look like the F-16s I saw today

@theymusthatetesla3186 Год назад

...Simba's some baby, isn't he?!

@kenbrown9773 Год назад

Just had some good thoughts on loadouts for this mission. Split the team into 4 evenly sized groups. First is the fastest and least equipped F-16s, their job is to be the "fast react" force. Second, fully kitted f16s because they are likely still faster than a10 and can bring a respectable amount of heat. Third and fourth, copy the same thing again with the a10. There will then be a continual shift from faster reaction to higher damage as the targets are driving directly toward you guys as the players.

@Anarchy_420 Год назад

U.S. Navy VS Iranian Attack! Drone Sworm attack from one direction with Silkworms attackin from another with Flack and old SAM site's defending, and Iranian air-air F-14's protection! Iranian anti-ship F-14's, Iranian UH-1H's, and Gun/Missile Boghammars all attacking together! VS U.S. Carrier Fleet! 🙏👍

@Anarchy_420 Год назад

Please use The Separate Boghammars! The old ones you used to use, 75% Gun Boats, and 25% Missile Boats! Something like that ;)👍

@dlocknessmonsta8431 Год назад

Really great gameplay. This reminds me of when I used to play Ace combat 5 on the ps2 many years ago. GG

@emmanuelgoldstein1918 Год назад

Just need 2 x AC-130 squadrons with tankers and AWAC + F-15 or F-22 CAP.

@shaunb1156 Год назад

"We'll never get any gun kills" I laughed when I hear that. Great show!

@damongraham1398 Год назад

The could set up patrol zones. Set up refueling altitude above the range of the manpads. Since the rules of engagement are probably "no firing until fired upon" the tanker is captured and then it a cutting out party.

@Anarchy_420 Год назад

I personally really liked how you had seperat Boghammars, one Gun Boat, and one was Missile Boat..??

@Revivethefallen Год назад

That had some great gun runs!🤘

@bladerunner9995 Год назад

Look at GR going all Team America at the end... NOICE!!

@Kevin-hb7yq Год назад

Those Hogs would be happier if there was some fences or bushes to hide behind. Also you might have scared them with all those altitudes.

@tom23rd Год назад

Oh Super Cap you devil, finally A10s get some! Super excited to see what happens 😍💥😉

@cahilroberson Год назад

It feels weird see other peoples perspectives on the stuff going down over here when I’m living in it

@grimreapers Год назад

Cool

@Phreekanon Год назад

Simba** No, I just quit! 😂😂😂

@lenn55 Год назад

Load up the A-10s with cluster bombs. lol

@grimreapers Год назад

Version using Cluster Bombs: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-a7JG7uLiq7o.html

@franklincarroll6772 Год назад

You should do this same mission but with Iran sending F14s to intercept.

@rre9121 Год назад

Very nice setup and execution everyone, good viewing for sure.

@smn475 Год назад

Rob us of seeing Brand0n getting the coup de gras thanks Cap

@erichardy9788 Год назад

B-52 with clusters

@MTBScotland Год назад

kind of thing the brimstone excels in.

@grimreapers Год назад

Agree

@grav4315 Год назад

Thinking back to the video with the reaper drones. They might perform well in this scenario. I believe each one carried 10 hellfires, had a standoff range greater than 3 miles. I assume run colder than an A-10. Plus your confronting cheap swarm tactics with cheaper aircraft. Only minus is air speed. Just a thought.

@notsureyou Год назад

My first thought when reading the video title.... "I thought tankers cruised at an altitude that was outside the range of the manpads....." 😳

@grimreapers Год назад

oof

@notsureyou Год назад

@@grimreapers In my defence, I'm a shift worker, And this week I started doing shifts that are 12 hours out of sync with my previous shifts

@qacarxan3647 Год назад

That looked like a fun one to fly! For added realism and some spiciness, maybe throw in some SAM sites, F-14s, and perhaps a few Su-35s 😉

@TheHoneyThief Год назад

I personally would have attacked from a lower altitude from the rear. You guys, therefore, did way better! Getting a lock with the IR head from so far away is something I could never do.

@BaddAtom Год назад

fun! thanks

@wilson2455 Год назад

A10's were more successful in strafing when coming in longitudinally rather than at 90 degrees..

@32mf32 Год назад

Distress call - Help us super cap, you are our only hope. Hopefully everyone watched starwars

@jamison884 Год назад

Very good job. I wouldn't mind seeing an even larger swarm trying to hit a group of commercial ships or perhaps some destroyers and frigates covering them, and then a large USAF bomber flight coming in to carpet bomb the entire grid (you'd have to calculate/test the lead so it works properly I guess). Lots of boom-boom and having the boats in formation but also a bit more spread out and haphazard rather than a literal grid would also be nice to see, just because it's more realistic versus the carpet bombing spread. I know it's all silly as the USAF bombers would ultimately just release dozens of guided bombs rather than dumb bmbs, but that's far too much effort I imagine?

@jokiejoker2011 Год назад

Loved it

@conmcgrath7174 Год назад

Great mission.In reality I would not want to be on the guns at the stern of those boats, think of the backblast from firing those manpads? Or maybe they 'soft-launch'? If they don't it would be hilarious to see them blowing holes in the hull and the legs off the gunners. Once you see the back of that thing pointing at you, best chance is over the side.

@grav4315 Год назад

One day I want to see GR go into full silly mode and pit one battle ship against the Iran Navy. Just for the laughs. Or maybe Japanese WWlI Navy vs Iran Navy that maybe fun as well.

@andrewfranson4756 Год назад

This was a fun watch. I think the F16/A10 mix might have worked to your advantage, it would be interesting to run the simulation with all F16, then all A10 as a control to measure the effectiveness of the individual planes getting to apply only one strategy to the fight.

@pudder68 Год назад

A-10's destroying Iranian gunboats.... 'Murica! Fuck yeah!

@Evocati-Augusti Год назад

They would use the A-10 to make quick work of Iranian gun boats...so the F-16s would cover the area until the A-10s showed up...

@Evocati-Augusti Год назад

the gun boats would 100 % slow down and have second thoughts once F-16s showed up..

@GraydenMacLennan Год назад

12:34 it looks like 3 of the 4 explosions here might have been boats killing each other!

@jansenart0 Год назад

This assumes 100% hardened morale and discipline for the Iranian units. Probably so much different if they were Total War units.

@Stinger522 Год назад

I watched this yesterday before going to bed. Great sortie and now it's time for the review. What went right? stopping the boats before they got to the ship. What went wrong? The Hogs going into MANPAD range. Sure they survived and looked cool but with Mavericks and rockets still on the wings, there was no reason for them to do that. Being able to remain on station while the Vipers went back to rearm was the only worthwhile thing they brought to the table. I think Stormbreakers would've been better for this mission. The Viper can carry eight, the A-10C can carry sixteen, and the Strike Eagle can carry twenty.

@DUKWAK Год назад

that was rad

@showcasebrix8740 Год назад

the seawise giant was the largest ship ever. it was initially sunk by iran in its attack on kuwait

@ItsMrAssholeToYou Год назад

Now that's what I call good fun.

@willwozniak2826 10 месяцев назад

Nice mission....something different.....very well done. Kamikaze A 10s....love it

@gunzelloharris3348 Год назад

Nice!!!

@Springer1-1 Год назад

plus a carrier airwing 😉

@colinboneham7387 Год назад

Great Sim Cap yea I’d say a twin seat would do better than a single due to work load.

@emmalyotier777 Год назад

imagine trying to aim a manpad from the back of a moving speedboat, it would be so hard

@DJxSKETCH Год назад

Viewingtons > Valued Viewers

@grimreapers Год назад

Nice

@occamraiser Год назад

What the US needs in this scenario is cluster munitions - and over the sea there is ZERO reason not to use them.

@grimreapers Год назад

To get CBU's accurate enough you need to drop fairly low, where the manpads would chew you up. Drop them high and the wind just carries them away.

@grimreapers Год назад

Version using Cluster Bombs: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-a7JG7uLiq7o.html

@scarcasmtincap2856 Год назад

Fun one

@vicoschangoku609 Год назад

Best wargame so far :)

@SuperAd1980 Год назад

Hello valued Cap. That is all.

@grimreapers Год назад

@-Hardstyle- Год назад

"Time to read the newspaper" 😅😂

@clangerbasher Год назад

I think they sent A-10s because the USAF is husbanding resources.

@aatwinner1377 Год назад

A load of APKWS rockets would have probably been the best option

@speeddemon2262 Год назад

Very fun

@NeedaNewAlias Год назад

Doesn't broken arrow mean that you have lost a nuke? Like dropping it in mid flight, like the US have many times?

@moopius Год назад

Broken Arrow refers to the U.S. military's code word used during the Vietnam War. This call was used only in the direst of tactical situations, when a ground unit was overrun by enemy forces.

@gail_blue Год назад

This seems like something an f35 would be great at.

@doublebackagain4311 Год назад

If the tanker had 10-15 drones to use that would have made the job much easier.

@kawco Год назад

Imagine this with an AC-130 ☠it would take forever to get there but once it does....

@floydlooney6837 Год назад

If the tanker hits a sea turtle after that it'll sink

@miketabata7957 Год назад

The A-10s and F-16s will most likely use the APKWS system. They use 70mm rockets with a laser homing kit. They more than powerful enough to take out these fog hammers. The APKWS rockets can be put on 7 round rocket pods or 19 round rocket pods. They have a range up to 6.8 miles. Too bad DCS can't simulate this weapon system.

@grimreapers Год назад

I did try APKWS when making the mission but 80% of them missed the boats by about 50ft. No idea why...

@mikehawley5108 Год назад

Not enough manoeuvrability, especially against moving targets

@glenproctor1999 Год назад

In theory, a Herc gunship could standoff 3.5 miles away and blow crap out of the boats but, don't think you could move the orbit forward at 40 knots? Maybe what you really want is a boat on the sea with a dozen laser designators and a B-52 pumping out laser guided bombs?

@jazzb97 Год назад

Heli with hellfire or apkws would probably work best

@ronaldmcboggled9855 Год назад

One question I always had when watching these type of scenarios. Would it be cost effective to drop non guided cluster bombs or very heavy “dumb” bombs to create huge waves and disrupt the small boats?

@grimreapers Год назад

Maybe a delayed fuse so is explodes under water??

@9999plato Год назад

Launch the F16s and a10s as the first response and delay the gunboats until a B52 0r B2b can arrive on scene to lay down the law from above with cluster bombs.

@OshinAttari Год назад

We Have a lot of Submarine and Boat Drones that Can suffer America

@kenhelmers2603 Год назад

Fun!

@NSB2 Год назад

Would cluster bombs or sensor fuse weapons work better against the swarm?

@captiveimage Год назад

Exactly my first thought too. Cluster munitions easier to use / target a difficult to pinpoint, agile target?

@BobH809 Год назад

Just what I was thinking. Also, this does show up a distinct lack of adequate weapons for situations like this (although not this many targets at once, but Iran, you never know).

@grimreapers Год назад

To get CBU's accurate enough you need to drop fairly low, where the manpads would chew you up. Drop them high and the wind just carries them away.

@grimreapers Год назад

Version using Cluster Bombs: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-a7JG7uLiq7o.html

@briandix4633 Год назад

I just started the video, but my guess is survivability. Even against the Igla's, the Warthogs should be able to close enough to use guns without taking too much damage.

@mikesmith-wk7vy Год назад

cluster bombs would work well . i think in the 80s when we did attack the Iran navy cluster bombs were used along with laser guided bombs from the A6s

@grimreapers Год назад

Version using Cluster Bombs: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-a7JG7uLiq7o.html

@Gunfreak19 Год назад

Cbu-105. Drop from 20k feet laser guide them in. And watch the destruction.

@grimreapers Год назад

I was wondering if the boats are too spread out for CBUs?

@Gunfreak19 Год назад

@@grimreapers They did indeed look a bit spread out, but with those fancy CBU97s or 105s they should be able to do some damage.

@Bloodwhiner 10 месяцев назад

I would have loaded up with cluster or napalm. Either would have been effective against the soft targets that were these boats. An old BLU 82b dropped from a C120 would have taken care of them in one or two passes as well.