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@iheartdiscgolf 16 часов назад

Greg has now come full circle by having a fix or flop of a PC he built. This here is a broken gaming PC.. the user writes, I was putting together a streaming PC and installed all the components, and went to turn it on and nothing happened. This here is that viewers PC...

@bongodoug 17 часов назад

I see you are almost at 900k subs. I wish you only success, sir. Soon enough you will have a million subs.

@GregSalazar 17 часов назад

I very much appreciate that!

@madmartigan9720 7 часов назад

@@GregSalazar Word Greg ! Keep them coming. Nice channel

@Seventeen76 17 часов назад

Im getting that case for my daughters 5950x x570 dark hero, and 3080 build, thanks for showing it to me Greg, I was having case selection anxiety, lol.

@ScottGrammer 17 часов назад

I have used the same CPU and mobo for two years. Still kicking butt!

@GregSalazar 17 часов назад

Sometimes I'll move my personal rig over to a new case just for the sheer enjoyment of it!

@ScottGrammer 16 часов назад

@@GregSalazar Yep, that's a thing. It also gives you a great opportunity for cleaning everything!

@rangersmith4652 16 часов назад

Gigabyte boards often do require a particular sequence of updates. I remember going from one AM4 CPU to a later AM4 CPU and being directed to install a given BIOS version, go to another BIOS version, boot to Windows and update the chipset drivers, then update once again to a later BIOS, swap in the new CPU, then finally update the BIOS once more. It worked, but what a pain.

@arezvani 16 часов назад

I totally agree with the sentiment of building a PC to your preferred esthetic. Although personally, I don't like the clash of wood, white fans, and black PCB and AIO, ultimately it's not my PC. It's still a great build and keep the great videos coming Greg!

@techluvin7691 8 часов назад

Aesthetic………..but yes……I agree. The white against the wood grain is a major clash.

@Miniputt_999 16 часов назад

I thought it was the pressure on the socket from the aio, but nice to see it was only a bad bios. Looking forward to the next video :D

@halesworth01 16 часов назад

Greg, you can stream to RU-vid or Facebook live, just set the stream to 'Private' if you don't want to be public (but testing the PC at a proper streaming scenario)

@Adamgreen735 9 часов назад

Yeah i was gonna comment saying i thought twitch had that option to do a test stream... Unsure if thats still a thing...But i thought it used to be. I would imagine youtube has one also maybe....

@alexh.9550 16 часов назад

I’m almost done with your fix or flop series, it’s amazing, now I will watch all your pcdc series too, I was subscribed since you had 600k, your channel grew a lot, clear and awesome videos.

@GregSalazar 16 часов назад

Wow! Thanks for the support! Much appreciated!

@saxoferm 14 часов назад

FYI for anyone possibly having issues with bios flash...check motherboard version...i like gigabyte but i have noticed they have alot of versions of boards...i have an older x570 master 1.0 but also own a b550i pro 1.3 and a b650 elite 1.2....make sure youre downloading the right bios for the version...since you cant see a screen using bios flashback. The version is printed on the box near the sku...and its on the board too...but sometimes its hard to see it when components are installed.

@SirDaffyD 12 часов назад

I have the B550 AORUS ELITE AX WIFI. The manual isn't clear if it's v1.0 or v1.1. Makes it a bit worrying when it comes too a bios update. I've saved my bios downloads, but when I compare them to what's on the Gigabyte website, they've changed them a bit, which makes it more confusing. I've used Gigabyte mb's for years, and like them, but this is annoying.

@saxoferm 4 часа назад

@@SirDaffyD you compare each revision sometimes they change the WiFi and Ethernet module..from maybe Intel to realtek..sometimes they can't find a certain chip and change something else....if you see what's different and then look at your drivers to see which you have. I use hwinfo64 and cpuZ...in cpuZ there's a board tab and it shows the bios version and maybe you could surmise which is your board.....measure twice and cut once kinda thing... Best of luck

@SirDaffyD 2 часа назад

@@saxoferm. It's also in the BIOS itself. Just need to remember to go into the BIOS when I start up the pc. Most I remember after I've already logged into the pc, so it's a case of "It's working for now, I can't be bothered worrying about it." LOL.

@sirbiff10 15 часов назад

When it comes to PC builds...you do you. Looks fine to me.

@toufusoup 16 часов назад

Those BIOS flash buttons always give me anxiety, I remember screwing an MSI one up by renaming it one letter off-seeing things not work like the RU-vid videos show always drops your stomach 😅 convenient, but clench-inducing! Also, not gonna use AV1 for the stream encoder?

@GregSalazar 16 часов назад

Does Twitch now support AV1 direct streaming? A few months ago, that wasn't the case. It also still isn't an option within OBS. I know RU-vid and a few others support it, but Twitch streaming is often the popular choice which is why its encoding options were discussed here :-)

@HOBOTw1tcH 8 часов назад

Even if the update fails, you can typically always just re do it and fix it. If you have a bios flashback option

@watercannonscollaboration2281 12 часов назад

Glad to see the computer actually working now. I always feel like second guessing myself when using bios flashback so I tend to not use it to update bios unless absolutely necessary

@Jules_Diplopia 23 минуты назад

Awesome Greg. So it was just that you were in a rush (sort of) to getout the door. It does show that PCs demand your time, but also the value of taking a deep breath, walking away and coming back with a fresh mind. Congrats, never had any doubt that you would solve this issue.

@williambeckett8990 13 часов назад

As the Great Douglas Adams wrote, 'Don't Panic'. You did very well in your problem solving logic chain. As always, we were right there with you. 😃

@exxor9108 14 часов назад

lol At this point, when it comes to people choosing one CPU brand over the other, all I say is... what's your favorite color? What do you plan on doing with your computer? Are you just gaming? Are you doing productivity stuff? What's your budget? All simple questions that can be answered instead of just being on a high horse for your favorite brands.

@Lonerprime 15 часов назад

I generally don't subscribe to channels. Mostly because I only like one or two videos out of a YTuber's whole range. Like the old song cassettes. Out of 10, mostly one is your favorite. This channel however, has me binge watching a lot of videos. Fix or flop especially is my favorite as I found I tend to learn a lot about varied PC troubleshooting. In short, thank you for your content Greg. It not be much, but for all that I have learned, have my sub as a form of gratitude. Continue on your awesome path.

@rvdeddrift 8 часов назад

The black n' white, or "tuxedo" rig is a super James Bondy type system! Thing looks sick! White fans and white tube sleeves for the AiO next!

@mbwatson1000 4 часа назад

I've not heard of phase sheets before, but I have just tried a Kryosheet on my latest PC build. Sadly, that didn't turn out well as a tiny piece of the electrically conductive sheet broke off and fell onto the CPU board - these sheets are so fragile! I had to dismantle the CPU assembly to carefully remove any such shard. Turning the computer on for the first time was doubly scary as a result. I am glad to say that all is well, having gone back to regular thermal paste. I am glad to see that phase sheets are non-conductive. I hope that makes them more usable for clumsy people like me!

@mutasimrahman6833 8 часов назад

Generally speaking, I try to update to BIOS versions that are less than a year old, as if you try to update to versions that are "too new", you can run into issues like this. I've even killed a motherboard myself. I wish motherboard manufacturers would preach this.

@kaseyboles30 16 часов назад

As someone who majored in both computer science and electrical engineering I can completely understand a comp sci major making that mistake, Just as I can understand an electrical engineer not immediately grasping why using just > instead of >= in a program can be big deal. Both fields are well connected, but not a huge overlap (outside asic design and the like). It's like complaining a materials science major doesn't know how to design a bridge.

@Leppux 16 часов назад

So, funny story. I had a 5600X inside a B450 and 2x8gb of ram. These 3 components decided stop working, bouncing between CPU and RAM debug-leds. They wouldn't work with other known working RAM sticks. A month or so later, the PC decided to work with same said ram, in same said configuration after swapping it around from single to dual. No idea what happened, cause it works fine now. But didn't before..? Any thoughts?

@turtlefrog369 16 часов назад

just age old AMD memory controller funny stuff.

@Leppux 15 часов назад

@@turtlefrog369 prob 😂

@Artafact106 12 часов назад

Just a guess, maybe a dead motherboard memory channel? But you said that everything worked fine; that's strange. Could be an issue with the BIOS revision too.

@Xironium 11 часов назад

In the OBS settings, if you connect your twitch account, there's a "enable bandwidth test mode" option. If you turn that on you can do a "test stream". Then open op twitch inspector (should be first result when using google) and log in with your twitch, you can see bandwidth stability. This effectively simulates streaming without actually being live. In addition, i found P6 preset with 2 passes (on multipass mode) to give me the highest quality results. To extra stress the system, turn on replay buffer with a 1 minute replay. That way it keeps recording while doing the test, giving the best/worst case scenario.

@CoreyPL 15 часов назад

To all the problems that starts with "premature" that plague men all over the world, now you have to add another one: premature disconnection.

@thedeadcannotdie 11 часов назад

Updatus interruptus

@jakesnow96 4 часа назад

Make sure that the partition table is set to MBR. On my Z690-A I had the issue were the bios wouldn’t update properly. Also, the memory OC wasn’t stable. It wouldn’t update the ME version until I changed it to MBR.

@Molasar54 11 часов назад

Hope your business trip went well. Great to have you back and in your element, fixing pc's. Love your videos and I have watched them all. Keep up the great work.

@drios007 8 часов назад

Two parts are good! Take your time. Keep making good content.

@maxtornogood 11 часов назад

That moment when Greg has to do a Fix or Flop episode on his own build! 😝

@Hadisabetghadam 7 часов назад

That Motherboard tortured By Thermal Paste Doing Greg Science😂😂❤❤

@allynlewis4471 15 часов назад

I knew that this computer would be the star on another episode of Fix or Flop 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@lvc394 8 часов назад

So is this a new segment: "Fix My Flop" ????

@BowsettesFury 13 часов назад

lol just had the chance to watch. I hope I’m wrong about the mobo being basically bricked. And it’s the socket and not a case grounding issue either. Let’s see. 4:19

@BowsettesFury 13 часов назад

Thankfully it wasn’t bricked. Never had to update that far into revisions before.

@ragreen2 13 часов назад

I wish I had responded to the previous video. When you described the symptoms my first reaction was 'sounds like a possible bios problem, I'd flash a good stable version' ... Oh well, maybe next time

@Trainbuff26 13 часов назад

"This here, is another RU-vidr's, fixed Gaming PC"

@jamesbrassfield8409 17 часов назад

This is going to be epic and very educational too

@Inevitablehugs 15 часов назад

I'm totally jealous of the graded Yu-gi-oh god cards in the background!! :')

@recyclebin 14 часов назад

Ruh-roh, the build got PEBCAK'd.

@richhoeffer5245 16 часов назад

He Fixed the Flop...awesome

@fallenphoenixfilms 10 часов назад

I'll click on a million Greg videos idgaf. Hope your trip was fun!

@RenatoG1848 16 часов назад

Computer expert bricks his own computer, proud of you Greg

@GregSalazar 16 часов назад

I will probably _never_ refer to myself as an expert. The more I think I know, the more I realize I DON'T know 😅

@gregfisher216 33 минуты назад

Great work Greg ,a lot of tech here ! way over my head ! This an example of how much knowledge and expertise you have !!!

@nowloadingvids1972 16 часов назад

didnt expect to see this build get fix so soon 😂

@TheXeroLink 6 часов назад

Just had another wild one. System would post and load into windows but games were 17-20fps and desktop was laggy. Turned out to be a bad stick of RAM… Put in 1 stick and it posted and gets 170-200fps now in furmark….put sticks in 1 at a time until I found the one that was the trouble maker Wouldn’t have known what to do if I hadn’t been learning with you for fix or flop and other stuff! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and experience.

@baskhd336 9 часов назад

I have that exact same case and an Arctic LFIII too! I love them both

@outlet6989 14 часов назад

Hi Greg, you need to add a caption at the beginning of your videos. I suggest, "Yes! My power strip is on and plugged into a wall outlet."

@vamble363 14 часов назад

lol i saw that cpu slot instantly, i was like ew i wouldnt use that board 😂

@Adamgreen735 10 часов назад

Our beady eyes catch the things most others dont sir Gregalot.... Never underestimate the fingertips of death that are pressing shift+fullstop and comma back and forth for that frame by frame execution, slowing it all the way down so we see eye brow hairs in the socket and everything.... We never EVER miss a beat sir Gregalot... Ha ha ha!!! GG brother...

@SoMiSongbird 9 часов назад

I actually like the white fans with the white cables, it goes well with the wood accent

@justagameplayingcomputeruser 7 часов назад

I am so glad your machine was not bricked.

@JamesRussoMillas 11 часов назад

Remember to get that latest bios back on for the stability issues!

@ThePrincemgomez 13 часов назад

Good Gigabyte mobo troubleshooting, I did something similar with a B550 model. Thanks Greg!🎉

@KryptonicHD 15 часов назад

In the comparison of NVENC vs x264, I just a had feeling, that you were you going to that, but thought "no way". I'm so glad you did, PROVE EM WRONG!!! NVENC rocks!

@BrisyTechBytes 16 часов назад

Thanks for sharing this Greg, just about to press the button on ordering a new Aorus X870 motherboard, although it should come with the latest bios installed this video will certainly help with any issues with future bios installs. Enjoy the rest of your weekend bud 👍

@theopszone6775 15 часов назад

Lol, should have written an email! Then read out in the beginning.

@bertgo305 13 часов назад

This video is long but very informative and very precise in explaining all the technical difficulty in PC trouble shooting. There's always morons and nit picking people online Greg specially your chanel is growing. I'm very happy tagging along for this ride to 1m subs 🤩👍

@requiem5179 15 часов назад

If you're BIOS is up to date and it powers on for a moment using the BIOS button on the board. Pull the GPU and try again. It it POSTs without a GPU then you don't have enough juice for the GPU. I ran into that with a 3000 series Nvidia and 12900K. Upgraded to 1000W and no more issues.

@GTArajgaming 16 часов назад

I planned out my rig to have extra headroom for content creation/streaming. unfortunately my oversight was my gpu (bought on release day for MSRP thankfully) , I use nvidia broadcast to remove my background and it's pretty cuda heavy and hits my rtx 3070 like a truck. I can safely say that going to 10mbps isn't terrible and is a pretty decent rate for streaming on youtube, bypassing a lot of compression

@tjp4342 Минуту назад

Have the same Dyson vacuum cleaner you have. They're great for a quick clean.

@jvcx23x36 16 часов назад

Greg, just add one more white fan as rear exhaust and that will tie it together. I think it looks good.

@Marcel1984nl Час назад

Hi Greg, the BIOS update problem could easily be the alcohol you used on your cpu socket. Yes the system posts but later it doesn't and that is due to a change in the BIOS chip, my theory is that the BIOS was written to the chip incorrectly or at least with errors due to a very slight short circuit resulting in no post and possible data corruption by turning on the system. I had the same problem with my Gigabyte B550M board when I used alcohol on the socket, i let it fully dry but it didn't do anything anymore and eventually I managed to use Q-flash and that went well every time but it didn't boot. A few days later I used Q-flash again with the same flash file and the system booted. Hopefully this is of some use to you, those boards are so sensitive and alcohol is not 100% non-conductive and leaves small traces. p.s. don't see this as an attack on your theory because I believe your theory too :) The white fans are oké it gives some perspective to the build.

@rynosraceroom66 12 часов назад

The trolls are very annoying but ignore them. You did a great job , looks awesome ! Thanks for the update 🏁

@PcTechHardware-q3f 12 часов назад

Great diagnostic brotha your the computer doctor 😅

@cyberwaste 14 часов назад

The only time I've had the machine just do nothing at all was when the CPU was dead. It'd track that flashback would still work without a CPU installed/working because, especially for AMD, the CPU needs an update to be recognised and work, so flashback needs to work without one. So, if the flashback button is doing something, the first thing you should do is reflash using it.

@MrAndyTsa Час назад

There is also an nuances to flashing Gigabyte motherboards: some of their boards can have different revisions, e.g. Gigabyte B760M Aorus Elite AX has v1.0, v1.2, and v1.3, and they can be using different or same bios files, and there are no way of telling those revisions apart except actually boot into the BIOS and check info there, so if you don't have extra CPUs lying around (most of us don't), the only way is to try all of them and find one that works.

@MasterAlexS 14 часов назад

You have 3 options: NVENC (dGPU) Quick Sync (iGPU) x265 (CPU) For some of my friends using the iGPU for obs was the best option for some odd reason (10 series GTX)

@IanTheCat 16 часов назад

Always fun learning with you! Ok

@williamjones4483 12 часов назад

I've got a mobo just about like this one (Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI) that in my clumsiness managed to get a sizable quantity of thermal paste in the pins. Tried cleaning with 91% IPA and a cotton bud. No joy. Someone else suggested I use electronic contact cleaner. I happened to have CRC QD contact cleaner. Sprayed the socket with that and all of the paste just washed away. I'm now using that board again with no issues.

@GB-zi6qr 14 часов назад

When I built my own PC, I had everything together. When I went to turn it on, nothing. Well shoot! Double checked all connections and still nothing. Just for the heck of it I ohmed out the power cord. There was the problem, the cord for the brand new PSU was bad. Replaced the cord and voila, been running like a champ since 2019.

@squalley 15 часов назад

Oh yeah… I remember this. Also, how was the trip Greg?

@cesarand02 5 часов назад

You’re able to use H.264 or AVX encoding with modern Radeon cards that are good when compared to older NVENC encoders. Modern NVENC is insane and very hard to beat, but if you have a Radeon card it’s still more than capable of handling encoding and streaming.

@PaulLemars01 6 часов назад

Glad to hear it was the BIOS Greg. I hate updating the BIOS on the machines I'm responsible for. Something always goes wrong. My latest was my son's machine which has 128GB of memory in it. He uses it for music production so it's not so much the speed as having that huge bucket of memory. The CPU is a 13700K and the memory is G Skill Ripjaw 3600 which supposedly came in a matched set. Needless to say, with the latest BIOS update I had to downclock the memory to 3200 to keep it stable. At every setting from 3600 down to 3200 the system would either lock up full black screen all the way to Windows booting and an hour later it would BSOD. It took me a day and a half to make sure the system was totally stable and I could hand it off to him. Context: the motherboard is an MSI Z790 Pro DDR4. CPU is set to stock speed. I'm using DDR4 because at the time of the build no board manufacturer would guarantee that their board would handle 128GB of DDR5, and finally I'm not a boss level memory tuner. His machine is set up for maximum reliability since it has to work for a living and if we leave 10 to 15% of performance on the table for the sake of reliability we're cool with that. This machine has never had a game installed on it.

@samuelrave 14 часов назад

Another video I enjoy! Glad I was wrong and that there is nothing wrong with the socket! 💯💝

@jmugurr994 12 часов назад

Is that the ford escort cosworth you are driving? Nice!

@lakephillip 8 часов назад

A very interesting thing happened to me on my ASRock B760M Riptide Wi-fi. After my new HTPC posted and installed windows went to update BIOS, and kept on getting error. I was using a USB 3.1 SanDisk drive. I decided to try a USB 2 .0 drive, and voila, works every time now, and there have been 3 revisions since April 2024.

@symonsicuan6148 13 часов назад

keep waiting for this video❤. btw. howsyour NY trip

@Brancan10 17 часов назад

Hooray streaming PC is no longer bricked!!

@duffmanmark 13 часов назад

There is always something new to learn and it doesn't matter what the haters think just keep doing what makes you happy

@RVail623 16 часов назад

AFAIK, only AMD motherboard bios (sometimes) require flash installing a sequence of one or two older firmware, in order to finally get to the latest firmware version. Intel CPU motherboards can, AFAIK, always go directly to the latest version offered on the manufacturer's support site. Side note: the USB thumb drive may also require being formatted in FAT32 format in order for bios flashback to operate correctly. Or may work with certain brands of USB drives, but not with other brands.

@tehSlushie 15 часов назад

You may have covered this in a previous video, what is that portable monitor you use in these videos?

@rachitbedi9506 15 часов назад

Love from india🥰 started my own pc building business after watching your videos. Thankyou for getting me addicted to pc hardware ❤️

@CrashPilot1000 15 часов назад

I didn't see that Bios issue coming but hey, now we know and everybody says, it was clear as daylight with these symptoms, yeah, sure. I am not into streaming but do gamerecording with OBS once in a while. The nifty part of the Nvenc is that the transcoding happens inside the graphics card without running an extra loop through the bus, only the compressed result is doing that (obviously). Since you have an Intel with onboard Graphics, you can also use the Quicksync H264 or 265 but then the full picture from the nvidia card has to go over the bus to the IGP. So there is a lot to tinker, compare and benchmark around with.

@johnstancliff7328 10 часов назад

this is one reason why I stay with MSI! I've never had any bios issues with MSI. I had this same problem when I bought an AS-IS board from Ebay, but it had the Bios Flashback option and still it didn't help... turned out to be a bad AM4 socket.... rare, but it does happen.... up until the AM4 Platform, I never had any issues with the previous platforms and bois problems. it scares me to want to step up to AM5...

@ralphandmike 15 часов назад

greg msi has a similar feature the bios that is flashed usually turns the unit off for about a second after its done and then it turns back on. after it turns back on your right about the picture part you mentioned in this video as ive experienced that as well i just power cycled and it was up and running after

@andrevanniekerk4711 5 часов назад

One thing that is weird is, that I have a gigabyte z790 motherboard and never needed to rename the downloaded bios file, all I needed to do is unpack the zip file...

@eio1971 6 часов назад

Wow lesson learned on my end too

@primekiller5729 15 часов назад

I just updated the Bios on my Gigabyte B450M DS3H Wifi on my newly built budget PC last night from its out of the box Bios of F64 dated Nov 7, 2022 to it's current Bios F68d dated Sept 2, 2024. Bios update was successful but do worry about bricking my motherboard if something goes with the update.

@danlugz 14 часов назад

I literally just updated the bios in my son's pc and mine yesterday, and it took me a few attempts because I needed to have the file name being very precise. And yes both of our MOB's are Gigabyte.

@marco002 6 часов назад

if you update it from bios you don't need any renaming and you can even see the progress of the update

@josephnorris4095 11 часов назад

Your content is most definitely entertaining and informative, although I personal have no interest in personal computing or building machines, anymore. However, I am an IT professional and enjoy that very much, I just want to do other things on my personal time.

@gilbrowning4695 13 часов назад

Hello Greg---Would appreciate if you could send/make a link for the process you used to make your mother in laws debloated windows 11 install. Thanks again for the informative videos!

@glennblum6410 14 часов назад

Thank you for your videos. Entertaining and educating.

@mojomangaming8058 9 часов назад

Would be interesting to see AV1 alongside the other two.

@razna23 16 часов назад

hi, i have the same mobo and i just flash my bios manually inside the bios. I dont need to change name or anyting and is easy. I never used the button that is on the mobo to do the update. The advantage is that u have a video signal and u can see the progress of the update.

@rokasdra 12 часов назад

Love your vids, Greg. Regards from lithuania ❤

@odie411 16 часов назад

It's the 24 pen extension cable. I've had issues with those before.

@Carne-t2q 12 часов назад

thank you Greg Nice work you teach very well

@davidhines7592 12 часов назад

i had the popcorn ready.

@rmorenberg 13 часов назад

I have faith in you. you'll get're done!

@flightsimdev9021 5 часов назад

I like to use diamond thermal paste, it's the best you can buy and the best thermal conductivity.

@robcatlow7620 15 часов назад

ahh ..the age old problem ... premature ejection ...lol

@fourtwentynick 12 часов назад

☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

@AeiKei 16 часов назад

Gigabyte's BIOS Flashback is really weird, back in the days of X99 you didn't even had a flashback button, just a port the motherboard would try to use if it can't boot the original BIOS

@Brian_Fjordvald 14 часов назад

Hi Greg. I love your videos man. Great work. If you should recommend an update on a 5600x, 64g-ram, 750wGold, 4070ti system. Primarily used for gaming. Would reuse the platform or upgrade to AM5 and what part would you use?