Can we put reason back into politics? | Richard Dawkins 

most of the information from education is unapplicable. many academics will respond that, even if the the information on its own is of little value, the practise of repetition and memorization is invalueable. but what those sort of academics completely fail to acknowledge, is that the same kind of repetition and memorization, could just as well be spent on learning applicable information rather than worthless fodder.

it's as if academics inadvertently suggests that to practise information that is less desired by our mind, and thus is more likely to be forgotten by our mind, is of more value than applicable information, because that applicable information takes less effort to memorize. fucking baffling to witness this kind of nonsense coming from well educated people.

Good luck even getting a roster of people worthy of teaching critical thinking in the first place.

Such people are the worst of creature.

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But is the greed Genie 'out of the box' and can we put him back in?

I want to see the Institute interview you instead of Dawkins. All very good and insightful points there.

@@lsobrien If you believe “the west” uses propaganda then you should try living in Iran, Russia or China. We have a free press in the U.S. although it is run by people; and all people are biased to a degree.

@@bubbercakes528 If you believe "the east" has McDonald's then you should try living in Ohio, Texas or New Jersey where the Freedumb Fries are just mm mmm mmmm.

He did address it. They are the echo chambers and bubbles created that are not based on facts. Yes, of course propaganda is a subset within these bubbles. The problem is that before the internet at least to some extent an expert in a field was consulted. Now once you are in the weeds in physics, politics, social psychology, etc. people do not have foundation in the discipline to A) know the math B) know the history of what failed and succeeded C) know what constitutes as evidence. So, confirmation bias creeps in and an opinion and propaganda in the echo chamber outweigh facts, reason and evidence. And here we are the lunatics are running the asylum.

Well the problem is that with youtube etc. We have 8 billion troll factories out there multiplying the propaganda of the traditional professional propagandists like the KGB/FSB etc.

Dawkins was , and still is, a part of that counter-rationality. He promoted the dangerous RussiaGate hoax for years. He praised the warmonger John McCain as a "good man, has "no sympathy" for Julian Assange and publicly supports Israel even now. He's an intellectual snob and looks down on the rest of us.

Yeah that's fked up system.. 😮‍💨

The IQ scale is purposely set up around the idea that 100 is always the average. The point of the scale is to show how far any particular individual deviates from the average, so by definition an IQ of 101 is slightly higher than average, and an IQ of 99 is slightly lower than average, no matter what the actual functional intelligence of the people is.

​ @2ndchookie919 : what about Nostradams? However since you've, stupidly decided, to demontratrate what an empty vessel you are I'll respond. What I was refering to was the current situation where we have people (Russians for instance) making statments directly in oposition to what we know the truth to be? It may be that for many years, or even centuries, we have been seeing and approaching Russia, and subsequently its allies, in an unrealistic way? Not recognizeing a fundamental reality, in that nature abhors, and cannot exist in a state of imbalance? And in consequence of that reality our democracies, must be balanced by anti-democracies that live in opposition to every moral code that we have claimed to believe in. We have failed to recognize the impossibility of a homogenous world ever being able to exist without division, tension, and fear? Our stability can only be possible and held in place when it is reenforced by tension. In the same way that a “One world government” would be an impossibility without the presence of an external threat? We have allowed ourselves to be led astray by a bandwagon of so-called Atheists, who want us to believe there is nothing of influence in our lives except the structures of evolution. We ignored Orwell’s predictions of a society of reversed logic, where hate was love, oppression was freedom, invasion was defence, cruelty was kindness and defeat is victory, yet we are faced with just such a world today? Can anyone imagine that there will come a time when the Russians and the Chinese will be wanting to live in peace and harmony when, with the support of their populations, they are hell bent on gaining even more territories than the massive territories they already hold. It will never come to an end, because it cannot end… Does that make sense to you......​ @2ndchookie919? Richard?

I don't get that. I think he sees some people as stubbornly uncurious, not stupid, and he gets frustrated trying to break through that stubborness.

Dawkins is an intellectual snob. He's an elitist and thinks only those who are of the 'intellectual elite' are worthy of consideration. The working people are stupid in his ( hidden) view. The fact that he's a fool outside of his science doesn't do his elitist argument much good. He praised the warmonger John McCain as a "good man", has "no sympathy" for a truly good man, Julian Assange, and even now publicly supports Israel.

you seriously think he doesn't know

​ @2ndchookie919 : what about Nostradams? However since you've, stupidly decided, to demontratrate what an empty vessel you are I'll respond. What I was refering to was the current situation where we have people (Russians for instance) making statments directly in oposition to what we know the truth to be? It may be that for many years, or even centuries, we have been seeing and approaching Russia, and subsequently its allies, in an unrealistic way? Not recognizeing a fundamental reality, in that nature abhors, and cannot exist in a state of imbalance? And in consequence of that reality our democracies, must be balanced by anti-democracies that live in opposition to every moral code that we have claimed to believe in. We have failed to recognize the impossibility of a homogenous world ever being able to exist without division, tension, and fear? Our stability can only be possible and held in place when it is reenforced by tension. In the same way that a “One world government” would be an impossibility without the presence of an external threat? We have allowed ourselves to be led astray by a bandwagon of so-called Atheists, who want us to believe there is nothing of influence in our lives except the structures of evolution. We ignored Orwell’s predictions of a society of reversed logic, where hate was love, oppression was freedom, invasion was defence, cruelty was kindness and defeat is victory, yet we are faced with just such a world today? Can anyone imagine that there will come a time when the Russians and the Chinese will be wanting to live in peace and harmony when, with the support of their populations, they are hell bent on gaining even more territories than the massive territories they already hold. It will never come to an end, because it cannot end… Does that make sense to you......​ @2ndchookie919? Richard?

​ @2ndchookie919 : what about Nostradams? However since you've, stupidly decided, to demontratrate what an empty vessel you are I'll respond. What I was refering to was the current situation where we have people (Russians for instance) making statments directly in oposition to what we know the truth to be? It may be that for many years, or even centuries, we have been seeing and approaching Russia, and subsequently its allies, in an unrealistic way? Not recognizeing a fundamental reality, in that nature abhors, and cannot exist in a state of imbalance? And in consequence of that reality our democracies, must be balanced by anti-democracies that live in opposition to every moral code that we have claimed to believe in. We have failed to recognize the impossibility of a homogenous world ever being able to exist without division, tension, and fear? Our stability can only be possible and held in place when it is reenforced by tension. In the same way that a “One world government” would be an impossibility without the presence of an external threat? We have allowed ourselves to be led astray by a bandwagon of so-called Atheists, who want us to believe there is nothing of influence in our lives except the structures of evolution. We ignored Orwell’s predictions of a society of reversed logic, where hate was love, oppression was freedom, invasion was defence, cruelty was kindness and defeat is victory, yet we are faced with just such a world today? Can anyone imagine that there will come a time when the Russians and the Chinese will be wanting to live in peace and harmony when, with the support of their populations, they are hell bent on gaining even more territories than the massive territories they already hold. It will never come to an end, because it cannot end… Does that make sense to you......​ @2ndchookie919? Richard?

@@davidbanner6230 you talk too much, but I don’t care about Russia or China !

What credible scientist denounces NS?

@@RG_Eph JBS Haldane showed that long gestation low birthrate species could NOT reproduce new species Fred Hoyle estimated the probabilty of new long USEFUL polymer chains evolving by accident was as near zero as makes no difference. N Essers BELIEVE NS is true Mathematicians know it is not. For example the change from non cellular to cellular life conferred NO advantage while developing ; therefore it is NOT the result of NS Same with vision etc especially the activity of the brain which by so called NS (hehehe) has controlling pathways to all parts of the body Experiments with short life flies could NOT produce new species when subject to stimulae over 1000's of generations of their life cycle

@FirstName LastName: ‘’Science is wrong.’’ What?

@@MontyCantsin5 Newton says the reality we perceive with empirical evidence is necessary. Leibniz said its contingent. 1D-4D are contingent; on their predecessor. 0D is necessary; having no predecessor. I bet the zero-dimensional space holding our quarks together with the Strong Force is the horizon between life/death. This is the contingent and less real side. Other side of 0D is necessary and more real. Obviously.

Bingo. Highest IQ answer I've seen.

@@ready1fire1aim1 so... you had me with Leibniz, you lost me with the geometric nuclear physics life and death word salad. Leibniz's metaphysics is certainly underappreciated for the novel choice to make interrelationships primary and the entities "with" those relationships secondary, and yeah I'm a fan of process physics which owes Leibniz a tip of the hat, but let's maybe dial back the mysticism a pinch.