Can you beat Morrowind with Only Marksmanship? 

Ah yes, the pacifist weapons merchant.

@DGneoseeker1 what is peace without a little war profiteering, after all lol

I always found it funny how runs where you have to injure people are still called "pacifist" runs 😂 not just in MW but Doom & other games as well.

@purple7filth I mean, technically you can taunt or frenzy them, but I don't know if the video game equivalent of verbal threats and/or mind controlling them into violence is very peace loving either

@@jjjjj4222 fair enough 😂

Poor guy was so close to the dragonbone cuirass. Could've been set up for life if he didn't drink the poison.

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Or just use throwing weapons. They come with an almost 100% stagger chance on impact. That means a very well guaranteed stagger above marksman lvl 50.

Or get the mod that allows enchanting on arrows and go wild like paralyze ,silence and blind on one arrow. Or disintegrate weapon and armor. I had one arrow just named "death" which did 100pts of damage.

it's also one of the few enchants that will fit on arrows.

​@@RandlerayThe chad sujamma throwing weapon build.

Levitate 1 is always labeled "don't care" in my spell list for this reason. Wonderful way to make bandits/creatures leave me alone when I run out of my jump enchants

That logic doesn't hold up at all... I mean I can obviously tell what you are saying, but it doesn't make any sense. Lock picking isn't attacking. Attacking is attacking. You *literally* attack the heart.

@@Michael-bn1oi How lockpicking works in Morrowind is the same as attacking. It's jank but it's the same action as far as the game is concerned. It's also why the strongest weapon in the game is a lockpick when you use a specific old glitch

Sunder and Keening are "Kagrenac's _Tools,_ " after all.

​​@@amnothere1234Can you explain to me or link me to an explanation of the "old glitch" you mentioned about the best weapon being a lockpick? Sounds interesting.

@@coleballenger4595 I can't remember how to do it myself but basically since a lockpick is technically a weapon(one that deals 0 damage) theres a way to cause a number overflow so that it suddenly does a massive numbers worth of damage since values cannot be negative so it goes to the maximum.

I always sleep in Clagius Clanler's shop because his bed isn't considered "owned" for some reason. It was the bed I slept in when I was attacked for the first time ever, so it feels like tradition now.

I killed him once for his prime real estate, now it's tradition. The place gets real cozy with a furniture mod and Perfect Placement! @@JustBackgroundNoise

im pretty sure doing it this way means that azura doesn't show up and trigger the final cutscene/quest trigger though. also lore-wise i think destroying the heart without sunder and keening means the enchantments aren't destroyed so the heart, and by extension dagoth ur, will eventually reconstitute

Hopefully this made sense, talkin' about three different but related systems that can all be described with synonyms of "raise" "upgrade" "level up" makes it hilariously fumbling to actually iterate.

While true in vanilla, this is fixed in OpenMW. Oddly enough, you don't need to do much more for infinite health. Just stack up a lot of fatigue, then take some fall damage. Fall damage is affected by current fatigue, and having too much fatigue will make the fall damage negative, which can heal you over your normal maximum health.

@@munitiondragon69 That's hilarious. If you meant that what I said was fixed in OpenMW, it wasn't when I played it like 8 months ago.

@@RupertAndCheese tested it years ago, didn't work, thought that was that. You got me to test it again, and you are right, it works! There's even a note about it in the most recent patch notes. Funny to see people intentionally re-adding bugs to a game just to try to preserve how it was.

It just works

This is CHIM

" Since they count as both weapon AND ammunition..." Now that is the level of exploitability I would like to see more in games.

Did you mean they count as melee weapon and ammunition? Because that statement is a bit confusing. So that would imply melee weapon variables like strength could add more damage to the attack.

@ck444joe7 In Morrowind strength applies to all weapons, including Marksman weapons. It isn't additive, but multiplicative, with the formula ((Strength + 50) / 100) for it's modifier, basically every 1 strength=1% increased weapon base damage with the break even point at 50 strength (no gain or loss over the base damage). Side note about damage modifiers, condition also is a simple % modifier that is just the %condition of the weapon, so will never be over 100% because unlike Oblivion Morrowind doesn't have the 125% armorer perk at high skill levels. This is another benefit to throwing weapons, they will always be at 100% condition due to their unique position as both Marksman weapon and ammunition. Since high strength (alchemy buffed) causes a LOT of damage to your weapon condition (condition loss is based on modified weapon damage) this can make throwing weapons a much more convenient receiver of your strength potion/alcohol gulping roided up Nerevar. Even though you might do slightly more damage with say a Daedric Longbow + Daedric Arrows than any thrown weapon, besides the rare Tribunal exclusive thrown weapons like Dwarven Darts and Spring Darts, you wont be needing repairs every few hits to stay at 100%. The main downside compared to other weapons is that enchanting them is pretty tedious and unrewarding, since in unmodded Morrowind throwing weapons are encahnted 1 at a time (and you obviously lose the enchanted item when used) with fairly abysmal enchantment points with maybe the exception of the Dwarven Darts from the Tribunal Expansion which has 10 (ebony throwing weapons have 3, dadric darts have 4.5). For comparison Daedric Longbows have 10.5 and most Daedric melee weapons have at least 15. Combine this with the fact that you have to use "Target" instead of "Touch" enchantments because unmodded Morrowind calculates touch range from the player instead of the projectile, and enchanting becomes an incredibly expensive way to scale thrown weapons (though there are some interesting ways to exploit it for unique effects, like using Calm to force the target out of combat).

@@Flamewarden_HonoushugoshinMarksman weapons, do you mean bows and crossbows? In ES Arena, Strength actually improved bow damage.

@@bizznick444joe7 In Morrowind Bows, Crossbows AND Thrown Weapons are all classified as Marksman weapons and scale with that skill (that's just what the skill is named, in Daggerfall and Skyrim it's called "Archery" and there are no thrown weapons, but in Morrowind and Oblivion it is called "Marksman" and only Morrowind has thrown weapons. Arena doesn't have skills, just attributes if I remember correctly). Not sure exactly how ES:Arena mechanics are relevant to this conversation, but yes Strength also affects bows (all base weapon damage actually) in Morrowind, but due to the extra condition loss, Thrown weapons have a unique advantage for strength stacking characters. I wouldn't be surprised if strength affecting bows dates back all the way to Arena, my Elder Scrolls knowledge only really goes back to Daggerfall. However, as best I can tell looking through documentation on Arena, Strength does NOT affect Bow damage just as Speed does not affect melee speed in that game. I could be wrong though, which is why I mentioned that I'm only really familiar with Daggerfall and later in the franchise. Regardless, this is a Morrowind video about the Morrowind skill and weapon type "Marksman", which I'm pretty well versed in...not sure why that is confusing, have you played Morrowind or watched the video we are commenting on?

Honestly saying no made me click on it - I hate challenge runs that are obviously just possible - “Can you beat Fallout 4 on very easy using a category of weapons designed to be viable options to beat the game???”

Technically he is wrong, all you'd have to do is sell Keening to a merchant, sell Sunder to another merchant, command or aggro them to the Heart Chamber, aggro them next to the Heart of Lorkhan, command the Heart of Lorkhan so it becomes technically your minion and can take aggro for you, position yourself around the Heart so they start slamming it And Voilà you technically didn't have to use Sunder and Keening lol

Reminds me of one person who did that. He did a can you beat for megaman 2 damage less, then spent well over a year attempting to do the same for MM3. In short, the video was only going to get made if the answer was yes. He also said something about how "it's not if you can beat it, it's if _I_ can beat it", which I mean the answer was no for hundreds of attempts... Just a rant over a pet peeve.

​@@mohamedmaatougui2469That's brilliant, did you think that up yourself?

@@wedding2710 my brain is too small to think of that shit, check out Corprus Hunk and their Morrowind Pacifist Run, they did all that while never bringing up their hands to cast or use weapons

You can do both easily. You are forgiven for your crimes until you pick up the package. So You can take the limeware, then proceed to the room with the guy with package, drop the limeware there, take-drop the key, got reprimanded, and grab both :3

@@stiken4421 i had no idea! thanks for the advice on how to swindle the taxman even more :)

Just loot most of the things, as long as you haven't been given your "Duty" or "Order" and received the package, all crimes will be forgiven. In the Census Office with the guard and the old man, I take the plate, and the books. Then in the next room I loot everything. I plop everything on the floor, so the Templar won't take it all, then take up the key drop it on the floor while inventory is open. That way can get a lot of good Septims to start with. Also 2 Skooma, and if memory serves 24 Moon Sugar is in the warehouse.

@@DraconiusDragora Dropping everything on the ground right in front of him, just like when joining the Myhic Dawn.

For the roleplay minded individuals, the moonshadow sign and a quick sneak beside the shelf, and as long as you have turned him away from you by talking to him, you can take the key while invisible without getting caught. It ends your invisibility, and as long as you have enough points in sneak you get everything in the warehouse fair and square.

Does sunder and keening not inflict wounds on npcs?

@@Noleme yeah they are too cool for mythopoic enchantments to affect them

@@Noleme even if it does, you can give them magic resistance or a healing spell to stop it.

I dont think magic resistance helps against scripted damage, but it would be worth a shot.

@@Bartoc1988it works because the damage is only scripted for the player character, as mohamed alluded to. But the healing thing would work anyway.

Seems like something any smart adventurer would do. The same way as to always have a weapon and a spell at hand, even if it doesn't fall within your chosen "class" Even a mage would need something to carve or cut food, but also to protect themselves just in case. And even the wildest barbarian benefits from having a way to fight when unarmed, like in prison or right when getting out of bed.

Not in vanilla morrowind you can't. when you have 0/0 in your inventory, it is still technically filled to 100%. Maybe with openmw or the unofficial code patch you can still move though, might have to try

@@sugoha_2548 I don't know what to tell you. I never used any of the code patches and this worked consistently for me. One thing you might be running into is that the inventory doesn't display fractions and some items like paper or keys have fractional weights.

For me, it became much easier to play after beating the main quest. Accumulating various meta knowledge makes the game way less intimidating. Some info I found very useful is that merchants restock certain items almost instantly. Most enchanters restock unlock and intervention scrolls. Some alchemists restock mark/recall potions.

Play using OpenMW , it's so much better while not changing the content of the game. We all have widescreen monitors nowadays, just to mention one of many tech changes we had that OpenMW makes work that the oficial dont

Yup, it's not bait and shows that the journey is the point of the video

I got to that part right as i read your comment. Lol Its crazy i never knew about that when iv played the game since i was a child.

Why would you need a daedric bow when you can just get a bound daedric bow spell which gives you a bow that doesn't weight anything, doesn't need to be repaired and buffs your maskman skill by 10 points while still having the stats of a normal daedric bow and being incredibly cheap to cast ?

@@sugoha_2548 for when you A. Have no magika. And B. Want to enchant it.

@@sugoha_2548 Roleplaying, not everyone plays morrowind minmaxing. For example, i play a monk that is completely inept in magic, so no spells.

Yup, and a script sets it's health back up once per frame. So if you oneshot it. As Sseth said: "I can do this with other effects, like fortify strength, whereby I can smash the final antagonist of the game with a weapon so hard, that he, and the weapon would cease to exist"

what a grand and intoxicating innocence*

hilarious. If you can rack up gold, you can enchant an exquisite ring to have constant levitation, just use the winged twilight soul gem in the mages guild in balmora after you steal it during the first mages guild quest. You have to pay quite a bit to do it but being able to just levitate away and spam arrows at enemies that can do nothing without worrying about casting levitation is pretty funny. You can set the ring to a hotkey to levitate yourself also, to basically just have a levitation toggle.

In my case, I thought Marksmanship was bad because I was young, didn't comprehend how bad the penalty for low fatigue was (and didn't max out other sources of accuracy), and jumped literally everywhere. So it became super expensive early on, and later when I had enough money to counteract my bad fatigue management I preferred to just use exquisite on-use magic rings/amulets with super damaging spells set in them that always worked 100% of the time.

Did you use levitation to yeet around or did you use it to turn your enemies into honorary cliffracers?

easiest way to travel is to offer a levitate potion to the shrine outside Vivec's temple. gives you 100 levitate for a really long time and the cost is minimal, since even the cheapest rising force potion works. also morrowind still has loading screens, you just need to be going stupid fast to see them, it's really hard to do on modern hardware, but you can see it in old morrowind speed runs.

@@windhelmguard5295 If you do the any% speedrun, you'll see loading when you do jumps which go across the map.

To be fair to race, the roster is four general species, and two of them have a dozen races between em Man Mer Khajiit Argonian There's four currently active sapient Mer races(Dun/Bos/Alt/Orsimer aka Dark/Wood/High Elves, and Orcs) and another like four almost extinct or non-civilized ones such as the Dwemer And of course the like seven? races of Tamrielic Man

Men and Mer can have children.

​@@syrelian - Nords are from Atmora - Bretons are descendants of Nedes and Direnni Aldmer, and the Nedes are either native to Tamriel or also from Atmore, I'll go with Tamrielic, so Bretons are a Tamrielic race - Imperials are descendants of Nibenese tribes, Nedes, and Nords, so they're Tamrielic - Redguards sunk Yokuda, so they aren't Tamrielic either. That's only four races of Men, and two are Tamrielic.

Someone had mentioned that to me, but I think if you don't use sunder and keening, Azura doesn't show up to end the game. So you can defeat Dagoth Ur that way, but Azura won't give you a hug.

​@@JustBackgroundNoisehey just gonna reply here incase you miss my comment, you should do a vid about getting all the items to allow you to use dedaric ruins as fast travel points to. I know most people dont even know you can do that an less have actually done it.

The attack from the warrior is better. After level 8 to 10, assu.ing you were maxing agility, attack simply gives more returns over the course of the game. He should have gone endurance and luck for starting stats, because you can cap any Stat by 14 if you minmax. Luck also is very hard to max but comes into play on almost everything.

Depends. Do you want a high minimum stat, or a more powerful final character? You get stronger in the end by starting weak, assuming you're not using the drain exploit or the jail exploit to become a god.

@@nathanjohnston9762 or just abuse alchemy.

I wonder if there's a way to move him someplace more accessible.

Most enemies in morrowind don't scale. The ones that do aren't impirtant enemies.

@@arturnicaciodeandrade9861 Yeah, the only enemies that scale I believe are the random ones you see on the roads.

Or use Command to drag them out to the Heart and then get them angry and have them hit the heart trying to murder you

How can you do that when there's no Fortify Speed?