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@SonicAdventure2 You prob already heard this, but you can open the safe with only two cards. Put the two numbers in you know and then cycle through the last one till it opens. So you don’t need that one Pikmin on the rail
Imma be honest, I was thinking about whether or not this challenge would be possible a few days ago, nice to see someone as crazy as me out to answer it.
A challenge like this makes me very sad that the upgrade that lets your captain carry things is postgame content. It would have been very handy in this run.
@@jismeraiverhoeven It is the ultimate prize for doing Louie's postgame quests. It basically gives you the carrying abilities of a single Pikmin, and with the speed shoes, makes you fairly competent in carrying back nuggets and materials. Although it comes too late for you to really make use of it in any challenge runs... Twould be cool to have a New Game + that lets you have things like the Handy Glove and the Lineup Trumpet from the start.
it's true that it's sad that it comes too late, honestly. so late, in fact, that it actually ended up being a nuisance for the sage's challenge, for me
The Extra Hand really should've been an early game item. It would be very beneficial for the first few days, neat for maximising efficiency and making challenges like this possible.
@@draguOdoT The devs weren't spitting on it... they just included it as a callback to older games, and as a reward for getting so far in the game... but they didn't really think about how by the time you get it the treasure is all collected and the enemies never respawn, so it can't be used. I do believe Olimar can use it in the Shipwreck Tale though, whether you had it unlocked already or not. So they definitely weren't trying to be rude.
I was wondering this myself, actually. I discovered the brokenness of the Pebble Pitcher playing with my brother because he wanted to see it in action. This wasn't touched upon in the video, but you can actually use the Pebble Pitcher in the Dandori battles to sabotage the opponent FROM THEIR SCREEN. Literally the most game breaking Co-Op pointer ever made. You know, it would be cool if one could start this run with the extra hand item (that Louie gives). I know it's meant as a joke, but it would legitimately speed up those rough spots quite a bit (not to mention give your captain something to do while you use the tactical drone).
idk it may be op in dandori battles but it was really exhilarating for me and my brother. he would target moss while i was panicking to find all the items. it made it feel like a really fun experience as opposed to just being by myself. my mom, who is awful at games, even asked to play as P2 because she saw how helpful she could be.
9:23 had me in stitches, thank you. Also, it's intersting how you can literally sidestep EVERYTHING, and it's all thanks to the smoll flying drone meant to help you survey areas. Unfortunately (or fortunately), P2 mode turns it into an aerial strike drone.
I'm in the middle of an Oatchiless run rn. A lot of it boils down to just collecting creatures in caves over and over again when you run out of treasures that you can grab without him.
12:26 This reminds me of how when I 100%ed the final area getting that one treasure I just used the infinite rush to run around the whole map until the day ended
Pikmin fans sure know how to be creative with their challenges with few games in the series. They may be unappreciated, but they are definitely more creatively ambitious than other Nintendo franchises.
I tried to beat the game with as few pikmin types unlocked as possible, and I was actually able to retrieve ALL of the castaways and treasures with just reds and purples. (Purples are required to beat the game because of sublevel 16 in cavern for a king) The treasures that you said required flying pikmin i was able to collect by abusing oatchi's swallow technique. By repeatedly swallowing and spitting out a treasure it will move a bit. And if oatchi falls of a ledge with something in his mouth he will respawn back on stage at the last stable ground that he was standing on. So if you move the treasure towards an edge that you can fall off of, and then have oatchi jump from the main area to on top of the treasure, then have oatchi swallow the treasure and fall at the same time, he will respawn on stage with it still in his mouth, and he can carry it back to the ship. One treasure is a joy con that is on a raised platform that is normally only accessible with yellows or winged pikmin, but a similar trick to the one shown in the video for getting russ with only reds works to get pikmin up there. (by the way i found it easier to do these weird janky throws with motion controls on because it let me get more extreme throwing angles than normally possible. Also make sure that you aren't riding oatchi because for some reason you throw higher while not riding him.) Once your pikmin start to carry it they will just circle in place, but if you call them off of it while the treasure is closer to the edge than when it started, you can slowly move it off of the platform. Then you can use the same trick described above to get it to the mainland. There is also a pumpkin in the first area that looks like it requires yellows to pull down a bridge, but can be collected with just oatchi with the swallow ability, some ultra spicy spray, and some patience. If you use oatchi's rush while he is standing on the very edge of a platform and he is tilted up in a weird way, then he will go flying through the air, even more so if you are using the ultra spicy spray. To get past the bridge you can use the nearby bricks as a ledge and then VERY precisely angle oatchi toward the corner of the crate, you can get oatchi to the other side. From there you can swallow and spit out the pumpkin until it is off of the platform. (You can't carry it off normally because there is a raised edge along the crate. Also the equipment that gives a speed boost might be require, but I never tested without it.) Finally there is a cave in the final area that has two paper cranes stuck in some mud and are supposed to require flying pikmin to get. But if you use oatchi's rush off of the lip of the nearby bridge, you can hit the cranes, causing them to move slightly. Do this until they are close enough to jump onto and swallow to move them a bit faster. Then finally pick them up out of the shallow mud (Also when i did this a weird visual glitch happened where the cranes reappeared where they originally were when oatchi brought the to the ship, and then they flew from there all the way to the ship.) Some of these tricks would probably help reduce the total number of pikmin needed to beat the game.
Can confirm. It seems you only need Reds for Fire Starters and Purples for heavy treasures/the one boss. Also Blues if you want to get the onion in Serene Shores, which seems to have no way to get Oatchi up to.
@@Real_Bossclips Actually I think you can get the blue onion in the first area with only reds and oatchi. What you do is have oatchi build the climbing wall, then use an ice bomb to freeze the water. While it's frozen get enough reds across and up the wall to carry the onion and get oatchi on the ledge with the spicy berries. Have the red Pikmin carry the onion to the lower ledge that oatchi is on, then use another ice bomb to carry it across the water. You might need to use an ultra spicy spray or 2-player mode to get it to shore before the ice melts though. As another note, I was actually able to get oatchi to that higher section once by stacking a ton of berries from the plant on the ledge, then jumping off of them and onto the higher ledge. I've only done this once and replicating it would be a huge pain.
@@Real_Bossclips oh yeah I forgot about that one. I think you're right. The only way I know of to move something without carrying it is to use oatchi's rush.
Throwing pikpik carrots in pikmin 2 was my fav thing to do when I was lil, this is just taking it to a whole new level. I love this video, so well written and engaging with no filler content, it’s all so interesting! Thank you for discovering the op drone and making this video
@@SonicAdventure2 why dont you just skip that one card that you need the pikmin and or do it in night mode also why not just input the code in night mode?
@@mcdonaldoldsLike they said, even if they skipped the card they'd still need a pikmin to open the safe. And I'm not sure if doing the safe at night would be a viable option.
to anyone calling out that using glow pikmin should still count: the game itself repeatedly calls out that they may not actually be pikmin(even listing their family as unknown instead of pikmin), they have no onion, their bodies are made up of some sort of energy which isent even technically alive(or indeed possibly even matter since they can phase threw it), nor can they truly die, and while they resemble pikmin its possible this is a mimicry, as we see with their energy ball attack their bodies are are amorphous and can change shape and even combine together, so doesent count
I assumed this would be an Oatchi-only run which did not sound appealing to me but getting some quality time with items and the new glow pikmin is definitely a run I can get behind!
AMAZING VIDEO! I cant wait to get myself further into these crazy limitations using stuff like the Drone and all the crazy items. I'm happy I could help with this, and thankyou a ton for mentioning me here. Pikminphobes rise up!! Pikmin 4 is now called 4...
hey, been doing a run of this myself but without the pebble pitcher, and heres a few things best spots for material farming have to be in sun speckled terrace. second base has a deposit instantly that refreshes everyday. optimal with +3 dig you can get 28 material a day you will need Pikmin in a few spots or else the game is physically impossible Tutorial Area, of course, you need them for the first 3 treasures (Without Pebble Pitcher, You will need 1 Ice Pikmin to rescue Russ, I dont think there's another way to get a rescue unless you do that, no ice blasts are available until 1500 sparklium and you need to 100% a cave to even farm some.) Hero's Hideaway: Unlocking the safe requires at least 1 Pikmin, ive tried *everything* else to get it to change numbers and it didn't work. In the final cave: There are 2 metal sheets that you need to bring down with 20 Pikmin to progress. There is no other option to go forward and it sucks. I decided to use glow pikmin for that, since it's an item technically and they cant be added to my total after im done. Also, no playing cards are technically required. Oatchi can grab two of three on his own so you can just guess the last digit. Final Boss: You can only deal damage with bombs and items. Oatchi can't pull his tail down to make him hittable. Im unsure if the pebble pitcher can do any work there but I'm on the boss now, and I have to farm materials just to beat him. I am on day 93 and with the aforementioned 28 material a day its gonna be a while. Final Phase of the boss you can only consistently hit with Trackonators which only increases the time spent. I wanna exchange intel because I'm the only person I know that's been doing this :D
I'll have to remember on repeat playthroughs to try to do Night Expeditions for new areas first. Having all the bridges and stuff built on my first Day Expeditions would be a huge head start and help me get to more caves before sunset.
I love how co-op makes the survey drone into a combat drone, maybe if pikmin 5 becomes a thing that can be taken as more intentional feature and one that is a bit more balanced aorund it
I personally went for an Oatchi focused run where I used pikmin for tedious tasks like building and gathering materials, but used Oatchi for any fights and collecting treasures. I feel the boss fights are a lot more engaging that way as you have to dodge and find the best ways to dodge and attack Also, a few things to note: 6:25 You can also use pikpik carrots for the armored cannonbeetle, they jam it up just like a pikmin normally would. 14:05 There is another way to get this card without having to refreeze the water a second time, you can complete the cave, then enter from the other end. This puts the base on the ledge above next to the card, letting you grab it that way. I feel like this trick of moving the base to the other side on these types of caves has some promise for other tricks or challenges.
technically getting glow seeds counts as propagating pikmin, as you can clear the grow pikmin population mission with them. Not from using the glow seeds mind you, just for collecting them.
Would love to see some mono-color runs! I know that red can get out of the first area, and I think ice can as well. Rules would be to limit usage of anything that would bypass a specific pikmin's requirements, and then tally those up (so if you could use the tactical drone or an oatchi upgrade to take down an electric fence, but you should exhaust your other options first)
Pikmin players making up their own challenges to keep the game entertaining even after we beat it is right on the money. I remember when I had completed pikmin 3 deluxe for like the 5th time, I had created a google spreadsheet of various challenges for the mission modes that I spent many hours testing to see what missions the various challenges I made were possible on. Also, when you mentioned taking laps while oatchi builds stuff, that reminded me that I had made my own game and it’s basically just racing around the entirety of the different areas using infinite rush with oatchi
So based off of this video you can either play pikmin 4 as a captain with an army of up to 101 creatures to overcome and overwhelm enemies, or as a helicopter with a mounted machine gun
I found that out after posting this video, but it's really slow, I wouldn't recommend it. Just beat it with glows instead of you don't want to lose your sanity
I used rush to bonk the Game Boy to get it where it needed to go without using pikmin and was disappointed when it wasn't sucked up despite being right under that spaceship.
Okay but the idea of having Olimar and a pikmin inspired track in a Mario Kart game goes hard. Especially if we ever get a return of the two drivers from Double Dash, imagine having Olimar doing his best to avoid crashing a vehicle for the thousandth time and Louie in the back seat tossing bomb rocks on other players like the psycho that he is
OMG Bowblax I was NOT expecting your voice when I clicked on this, I forgot you're a huge pikmin fan too! I love to see everyone enjoying this game, I'm already on my third playthrough, going for minimum Oatchi usage, I think next playthrough I'll try an Oatchi only run
You actually can kill the Sirehound with bombrocks. I've done it and you can test it in the Piklopedia! You can even kill the flying phase like this and any enemie it just takes awhile! So if you are willing to just grind some Co-op points you're unstoppable!
HAHAHAHA I didn't know that you could use the drone that way. I love this game. I've played through multiple times just because I enjoy it as a single player game but i might try the drone/p2 method for the hell of it lol
So the real answer, is no. You can't beat the game with zero Pikmin, because you have to work with cheats and technicalities. I've noticed that a lot of these videos from many RU-vidrs can never actually say yes, because it all has to be worked around or 'cheated' in some way. Either by using the Candypop buds in Pikmin or various glitches in other games.
So, I did a bit of calculating in my head, and figured that, minus Pikmin 4, the entire series has about 55 hours worth of content-depending on your skill level, this number can be less or more.
I'm currently beating the game without oatchi. I've gotten to the cavern for a king and all of the run was done in single player mode and I've needed Oatchi 4 times; once to get into the rescue olimar battle, once to get to the first Louie battle, once to get don Bergman who I got in ultimate testing range jumping once in sublevel 2, and finally I switched to oatchi to get to Louie final battle. I counted switching or riding on oatchi only a use when it charged, jumped, or started transporting something. Once I started using oatchi it stayed as one count until you visibly got off or switched away after an action. Do avoid accidental use I switched to oatchi and just moved him to the side. In hero's hideaway the first card by the starting area was not obtain however the one which requires a button press was done in single player with good timing I through a purple and went on the fan so that I could use it when still switching it to enable the other fan. I guess the first digit. I did all Dandori battles without oatchi surprisingly and got gold in all but the last where I got silver. I couldn't get the ice, purple, white, and winged onion. I'm about to do the last cave have and I've stocked up on glow Pikmin because I'm sure they'll come in handy. For pots I needed to use bombs. The ice onion was unobtainable because of the button needing the cave to be done which you can't get past the first sublevel. The Purple and White onions are unobtainable because you can't do trial of the sage leaf without oatchi. Winged onion was in a place needing oatchi to get to. The blue Onion was obtained in serene shores. In sun speckled terrace I needed to redo the only cave I could do for corpses. Surprisingly I 90% Blossoming Arcadia and 70% Seren shores which really shows you only really need oatchi alot for the first and last areas. All in all I really enjoyed this run and it stayed true to the not having a dog and your Pikmin being a big clump. Though because most caves aren't possible to get to the boss I wanted to try afterwards to go in the piklopedia and just fight everything without oatchi because he breaks alot of the bosses making them a bit too easy because your Pikmin are all condensed. I'm most worried about Ancient Sirehound's last phase.
