Can You Beat Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne Without Buffs (Part 4) 

I study math in university and there's a thing called a non-constructive proof, which is a mathematical proof that doesn't show how to actually do something, but proves that it is theoretically possible. If we take this series to be a non-constructive proof, then your use of cheats is totally okay, because while you cheated in the game, you only cheated on the grinding and not on the actual boss fight, so you've proven that it's theoretically possible to beat Nocturne without buffs. QED.

And Surt said: "Fuck your healing" and Satan died.

"The level progression in SMT Nocturne is slower than Atlus West's localization of games." DAAAAAMN.

I like to imagine Dante just showed up with a Game Genie and the Demi-Fiend just gave a dissapointed nod and took it.

“SMTV will probably come out before then” little did he know

“I beat SMT Nocturne without buffs” Atlus: *”WANNA DO IT AGAIN?”*

The fact that Nocturne HD and SMT 5 is annouced not long after this run was conpleted just blows my mind. It's as if Nyarly completed the hidden quest and unlocked the gates for ATLUS

I think its Really a Testament to the difficulty of a game when even After Insane grinding WITH CHEATS you can still die. It Really wants you to use all of the Tools you have at your disposal.

*Sees the title* ... you fool. You had a way out, and you returned to the darkness.

Me: "Ahh, Just finished episode 3 of Can you beat SMT Nocturne. Time to move on to 4... HOLD UP."

Personally I think the cheating here is justified. All you're doing is speeding up the grind. You're not giving yourself a huge advantage, everything you're doing you could have done if you just no-lifed it. This is an experiment to see if it's possible after all. No harm in speeding things up to check it out.

Nyarly beats nocturne no buff/debuff ATLUS "ok, we can release it now"

Part 4 of an assumed finished series An unexpected surprise but a welcomed one at that

A week after you finish this the SMTN remaster and SMT5 get announced. Your sacrifice has been accepted.

Aight now do "Can you beat SMT 1 using a magic build MC" run of smt 1

You could not live with your failure, and where that brings you? Back to Dante from the devil may cry series (tm)

The funny thing here is that at lvl 255 youre doing less damage than a buffed party in the 80s

THE REVENGE OF THE DEMI-FIEND AND THE REDEMPTION OF A KING!

"Shin Megami Tensei V would probably come out before it" y'know, he was right

4:14 this statement, although it was a joke, is now probably true

Can you beat Digital Devil Saga only in human form

12:53 My longest whoooole ever

Ah yes, the epiloge that none of us expected "Gamer Shark"

Thanks Nyarly, you unlocked the Remaster for us

So I'm going to take a guess at what happened with Lucifer at the end of the video: So iirc way it works is Lucifer heals at 19,999 HP or lower (well, I originally thought it was at half HP, but that's not what the wiki says, and if it was that, then what I suggest here wouldn't make sense) but on his last phase where he's super low (12k or lower, maybe 15k or lower? I don't remember) he goes into his Diarama phase and he starts using Evil Gleam again to try to charm you into a full heal on him, and with what I know about Nocturne's AI, what likely happened here is you skipped over his heal by getting him to this last desperation phase from above 20k in 1 turn as your damage values were so high. I hope that makes sense, and if anyone's reading this that knows more details, feel free to talk about it as while I have messed around with stuff in the game it's all been fairly tame and I've never done anything more than change some moves around on some dudes, or change stats with CheatEngine - most of what I know comes from reading Zombero's work and testing enemy AI quirks myself back when I had too much free time.

6:45 You're almost... SURT-ain?

**Deleted my earlier comment because I just realized something** Remember when you and Fither talked about the Devil Summoners vs. the Persona Users and there was skepticism on whether or not Lucifer was going all-out against Demi-Fiend? I think this run is irrefutable proof he wasn’t fucking around.

We actually did not see this coming

Incidentally, Messiahs in Diamond Realm Demi-Fiend is Lvl 125 when Damaged YHVH is Lvl 100. Guess that Demi-Fiend is from one of Nyarly's failed runs.

Just yesterday I thought to myself, "maybe he could grind up to level 100. That would be a horrible grind though." You found a way, you madaman.

Time to raise hell itself once more.

I didnt think we'd get a part 4, heckin neato!

>part 4. HES GOING BEYOND

I dont mind the cheat code for the leveling up as it's better than waiting for up to months for this next part to be made

In my playthrough Lou got down to ~20k health... And then cast Diarama, which healed him a grand total of 1300 hp. Raidou then slapped him for 1400 and I was left very confused.

"Shin Megami Tensei V would be out by then" Ask and ye shall receive.

I wasn't expecting a part 4! Keep up the grind and good luck on your future endeavors!

Idea for the next challenge run: Megami Ibunroku Persona (PSP) with only the initial Personas. Here is my version of the rules, Change what you feel you need to -No fusion or changing Personas (This includes character's Ultimate Personas) -No contacting Demons (This makes it so you cant get spell cards, Or make enemies run away by intimidating them) -Using Skill Tablet items is allowed (because im not evil) -Route doesn't matter (You can go SEBEC route or SQQ) -No Bad Endings (You MUST get the good ending of whatever route you choose) I imagine this will be hard against any magic using enemies. Anyways, I hope you do this, And have fun with it! Edit: If at any point its necessary to break one of these rules, Do it. But only if absolutely necessary.

I'd say that using cheats to increase EXP isn't technically a cheat. All it is is speeding up something you could do normally. If grinding took you a couple hours with the cheats, it probably would have taken around a year for you to get through normally. There are people who, when they first played an older Pokemon game like Firered or something, didn't know what to do and leveled their starter to level 100 on the first route.

holy shit i was not expecting a part 4. but congrats you absolute mad lad, you did it

Nyarly toture himself part 4

Damn, demi-fiend got that runback

What a journey! Im so glad its possible, hooked since the start. Cant wait for the next challenge

This series has been an utter joy to watch!! I also think it was a positive harbinger for future events as Atlus has announced new SMT5 AND SMT NOCTURNE REMAKE trailers recently! This was great, I learnt many things about Nocturne.

I was re-watching the first three videos and then I saw this and it made me smile. Nyarly, I might not be one of your long-time fans...but damn I think you're amazing.

Man needs more recognition for this time consuming feat. The SMT FANDOM HAS BEEN SHOOK

damn man i love these games just from watching them, and you as a content creator as a whole, thank you for the great content man

Good to see you didnt give up man! So awesome to see a part 4. Now lets see you beat Persona 2 without spreading Rumors lol

YOUR VIDEOS BROUGHT FORTH THE SHIN MEGAMI NOCTURNE GODS!!! NOCTURNE ON SWITCH, WOOOOO!!!!

This series was incredible good job on completing your challenge keep up the good work.

anyone look at the thumbnail too fast and thought demifiend had a massive dump truck because of the logo placement

Congrats man! Nocturne is truly a beautiful but brutal jrpg

Great series. Here's hoping for more SMT challenge runs.

Just beat smt nocturne myself! Great video series man, and this helped me a lot with getting through the game myself lol, can't wait for the remaster

Personally never played a megaten game before, but I felt like I could still go on to play nocturne after this due to your videos being structured mainly around fights. I appreciate that. Amazing video series.

Me:opens RU-vid and see’s smt nocturne no buff/debuff part 4 Also me: maximum confusion but still instantly clicks

Hey Nyarly, thanks for getting me into main line MegaTen games. I've been a personal fan for a few years, and have known about nocturne, but this series has solidified my resolve into playing it.

Glad that there was a follow up to this! Very satisfying after thinking it wasn't possible.

Loved this series, keep it up!

Props to you for coming back to it!! Honestly you could've just let it in the no and be done with it, but I'm glad we know it is theoretically possible, albeit really hard and time consuming to accomplish 😂

So it would appear as though at some point four months ago someone went absolutely mad in this comment section about our boy using cheats. Since then their comments seem to have been deleted, i think? I know there's no point in me saying this, but why do people get so incredibly butthurt about some dude on youtube using cheats to speed up grinding in a jrpg? I get that he didn't "really" beat the challeng, technically, becaus he cheated. Sure. But it's not like he claimed that he did it legit. In Part 3 of this series there was a pretty clear point being made that under normal circumstances you will not be able to beat this challenge. That fact still stands. And then he was like "Hey, what if I was Max level?" And then he tried it and won. And he made a point to tell us that it takes a whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooole lot of grinding. He skipped the grind. Guess what, the video would have been essentialy the same if he did grind it all legit. Only difference would be that, instead of telling us about the cheats, his grandchildren would be telling us about his grind. The result would be the same. He could have just kept the cheating secret and the only way we would have known would be a changed version of the game and a suspiciously short amount of time between uploads. I really do not get why people bother wasting their time by complaining specifically about someone else *not* wasting their own time. I am aware that there's some irony to be found in me complaining about those people, but thats a discussion for another day. In conclusion: -the challenge was proven to be beatable -No Gaming Licenses are being revoked today -Nyarly didnt waste 47 years of his liefe grinding the f#cking pixie to level 255 -The time I just spent writing this mess is time i will never get back, moving me ever closer to my inevitable demise at the hands of insanity Rant over. I really hope you have a nice day. You desereve it after reading this.

Damn who would have thought it was possible. Cant wait for the next challenge keep them up Narly

the madlad did it.

That was really impressive! =D I may never try this kind of challenge, but really makes me want to improve in the regular game.

Can't even see the post credits stuff because the previous videos are in my way

i fully enjoyed this series and i’ve never even played a megaten game. good shit, man.

Nyarly: I did it Lady in black: He did it Record scratch: He did it

Wow im surprised dood That intro looks awesome doooooood

I like the new splash for your channel! Not gonna watch the video tho, haven't finished nocturne yet D: but you have my view and my like!

This channel is going to blow up once SMT V comes out. Love your videos!

NYARLY! NOCTURNE REMAKE! AHHHHH!

You sought the thrill of death, but it seems death's vastness held no peace. This series has been hilarious and awesome, I can't wait to see whatever comes next!

Well played good sir! I did not expect this to be in my inbox when I opened RU-vid tonight but here we are...impressive. I do wonder what could have possibly stopped Lucifer from using Diarahan but hey, as you said yourself, we ain't complainin'. Love your stuff Nyarly, keep up the good work!

Dude congrats, glad you were able to finish with out buffs knew you could do it

Nice timing just before SMT V and SMT Nocture Remaster was confirmed! It’s been a great week!

Congrats on the win, man! You did it! I love this game and just beat it for the first time after giving up on it as a teenager. 😁

I'm so glad you beat this game without debuffs, this must have been so relieving for you

I remember using a gameshark on Nocturne once. Unlocked all magatamas to the point the game item text info literally says "You cheater" lmao

This series was phenomenal 😁 enjoyed it alot. One thing I would love to see would be like the Persona 3 video, Persona 4 with only Izanagi? It's probably easily just as possible, but it would sure be fun to see :D

i fell asleep while watching this and i had a fucking fever dream

Just saw this as soon as i opened youtube NOW IM EXCITED

Hey, it's been a pretty rough two days, I'm glad that I have something to look forward to, now.

Recent events mak this video 10x better!

Was playing through the HD version while watching this. Had to pause a few times to avoid spoilers, but NEVER, and I do mean NEVER, will I ever try to do a no buff/debuff run. Holy shit. Major props to you, but I don't think I would be sane after that.

The moment you finally reach level 255 in Nocturne SMT V might have been released Update: Well shit

Nyarly you are a crazy man and I respect that.

one of my favorite parts of all this is the clip where you show of your friend fighting against Mot lmao i think i would’ve raged hard or even just been speechless and laughed out of anger if i saw that happen to me bc ngl that’s just some hardcore bs

YOU DID IT YOU BADASS CONGRATULATIONS

What a twist!!! I feel myself going insane at the thought of trying to reach that lvl.

It makes me so happy that we are still getting SMT Nocturne content to this day

You madlad. Congratulations. Now looking forward to Izanagi only run of p4. Take your time on that one tho.

SMT V comes in 2021 I cannot wait to see what challange will Nyarly do in SMT V

I don't really mind the cheating. The thing about video games is that no matter what, the grind is slow, painful and mundane. No one in their right mind would grind to the max level on normal standards, especially when the cap is level 255, that could take like a month or two to finish. Plus, the whole point of the challenge isn't about the grinding, you're just doing what you promised, but eliminated the grinding aspect so I don't really see it as a problem lol, as long as you can beat it without buffs and debuffs, I am A-okay with any method you do.

Hey, congrats my man I'm glad you finished the challenge I was actually very impressed by this not going to lie, it was a trip. *Now fight Demi-Fiend without buffs/debuffs on SMT Digital Devil Saga 1*

I can't believe this video is already two years old. I remember when part 1 came out.

The dedication is unreal

Congrats! I can't believe that even at 255 those two are still a problem. Shows how hard Nocturne can be.

Im glad for you uwu Nice work Nyarly

you mad lad. Also more infotaniment videos on demons please

This was very satisfying.