Can You Beat ZELDA : OCARINA OF TIME Without a Sword? 

Void Warps baby

It doesn't seem like the game really clarifies how Farore's Wind works. Maybe if Lemon had looked it up on a wiki (or just played around with it), he'd have gotten some use out of it, though.

Farores wind is one of the most useful items... It is very useful in some dungeons, I also only play OOT while on an elliptical and play for 30 mins at a time, dropping farores is extremely useful when my time is up and im deep in the dungeon. Drop it, save and quit till the next time.

​@@Teh_Random_Canadian I like farore's wind too, but tbf your situation is extremely niche considering you only play oot While on an elliptical.

speedrunners: *visible concern*

Are there fire bombs in ocarina of time?

@@Heidijackward there is normal bombs

​@Pro Cow . I don't think you can get there with out using something else as a wepon so unless he can do a work around (Why doesn't the @ thing work)

@@Heidijackward To be fair, you can skip straight to Ganon’s castle from Ghoma’s boss room, though that is both a glitch and exploit.

​@@xiarno3373 you can also just play the game and have fun

Thank you, Toriel fox, very helpful.

And the biggoron sword does twice the damage of the master sword, meaning a jump attack with it does 8x the damage of a normal slash with the master sword

can not believe he didn’t know that that’s literally the most basic OOT knowledge… that’s when I realized I’m watching a moon that hasn’t played this game in years

​@@Cainb23I had no idea the deku stick did MS damage. Wild

Damage values are based on each of Link's hearts having 8HP. Kokiri Sword, Broken Deku Stick, and Broken Giant's Knife all do 4 damage. Master Sword and Deku Stick do 8 damage. Biggoron Sword and Unbroken Giant's Knife do 16 damage. This is specifically because Dark Link has the same HP as you do, which can vary depending on how many Heart Containers and Heart Pieces each player obtains in their adventure. This actually means that you can defeat Dark Link in 2 hits if you get the Biggoron Sword and don't collect any health upgrades. The opposite can also be true if you use glitches to get 20 hearts (160 HP) before fighting him or just cheat for max HP with GameShark codes.

I always skipped it because I was already in the final dungeon, but recently I did a 100% run and got it early then cleaned the rest of the game. It's actually really useful

@@Greendawn-di3dl Idk why I don't remember this in the game. I'm losing my mind lol

@@gutter339 I didn't either until super recently, as stated I'd just skip it because ganon was right there already.

I found that and panicked because idk how your supposed to turn it off and then accidentally closed the game without saving

@@Greendawn-di3dl It's definitely one of the most pointless upgrades in Zelda history. It comes so late in the game that if you're good enough to get to it, you're good enough to beat the game without it.

Agreed

Seriously. Any kid born between 1980 and 2000 should basically get a nostalgia nut from that sequence, and I’m so happy he did it that way lmao

not gonna argue about that

​@@ChaosPhoenix11 I'm a 2006 kid and that gave me nostalgia lmao as my cousins used to play it all the time

@@ChaosPhoenix11 I'm from 2000 and played this game (actually Master Quest) a lot as a kid, on my brothers' saves, much to their chagrin. Since it was on an emulator, though, I usually did the "clicc funi buton to open game den pres buton to load saev haha" and didn't get to watch the intro, since all I knew how to do was loading savestates and running around. I still don't understand how or why I always went to the Shadow Temple, despite being ABSOLUTELY TERRIFIED of the Dead Hands. Really proud of myself whenever I felt brave enough to progress past some spooky room :D

See I don't remember it working as a two way homeward bone, I just remember it being a warp to the entrance of a dungeon from inside it. And I feel like there's never been a moment in a pre-BotW Zelda game where there's any reason to leave a dungeon in the middle of it. There's not really any resources you need to replenish from outside a dungeon besides fairies, and even then they aren't super rare in dungeons. I can't really think of any moment in a Zelda game, especially OoT, where the value of this spell jumped out at me, despite it clearly being good in the right setting

It can be game-breaking. Only in MQ, which honestly is kind of broken already but yeah. The Forest Temple twisted room has its default state inverted, so you can warp into the wall, it's great

I used it a lot, firstly because save quit resets you and I rarely beat them in 1 sitting and second it cuts some loops

​@@Dwyer69nah it had some good value. In the water temple for example u could set it after leaving the door for the max water level. Allowing for instant access to max water level without having to back track through the dungeon in case you messed up and did it too soon

iirc you could actually just grab the main treasure from forest, then fire and then water temple (also ice cave i suppose) without fully completing any of them. I liked doing that for some reason (really just a massive waste of time compared to a full run through but i guess it really prepared me for doing randomizer runs)

Agreed, the nostalgia of this game hits you like a truck, I remember the fun times (like sneaking through the gerudo hideout for the first time, feeling like a ninja) and the bad times (trying to defeat Bongo Bongo without realising I had to use the specail boots and constantly losing) overall this was a fun game that I loved playing and defeating Ganon filled me with a lot of excitement.

All things change

Look up the Zeldawave video. It's a beautiful tribute music video, in the Lofi style.

@@mayanboricua thanks for the recommendation it's phenomenal.

"Two on one? No shame in losing to superior numbers! They didn't fight fair!" "No, you misunderstand me... *He beat me to death, using a princess*"

STONKS

Also there’s a free Hylian Shield under one of the graves in Kakariko!

​@@roganmckee2350 never knew that one!

@@ciryllynyard7706 In goron city if you blow up the big rolling goron as a kid link near the sign by the tunnel then he’ll give you a free red tunic

@@canontheory that’s as adult but the Goron in a little one, the big Goron as child gives you a bomb bag upgrade

Based

Glad to know I wasn’t the only one who caught the AdamWestLapDog reference

my first 3 days of breath of the wild was annoying, but we all know after defeating the waterblight, getting the master sword and having 2 bars of stamina the game was super fun.

@@Egibidof1 Sorry dude but i have literally no clue what chu talking about. I just fucking love this game

Jump slash into crouch pokes is how you one cycle the spider

It's deliberate, because it breaks it deals more than base kokiri sword

As a few people have said, the increase in damage is balanced to durability. Save for the Giant's Knife, all sword are indestructible. You can spam swing them. The Deku sticks have limited durability and break after a few hits or so. Because of this, you can only use them so much. You have the ability for child Link to do as much damage as adult Link (aside from the Biggoron's Sword), but only as long as your supply of Deku sticks last. But yeah, they messed up the damage modifiers for crouch poking.

I love that crouch poking has such a rich history, lol.

I mean, it goes all the way back to LoZ 2, where hiding in the corner and crouch poking was the best and cheesiest method to beating dark link, bar none.

Edit: Ooops I wrote a reply that was supposed to go under a different comment 😂

Same

Same but I lost my copy :(

OOT 3D is incredible. If ypu could only play one that is the version I would recommend.

i played the gamecube release because i was born in the interstice between gen z and millennial

​@@whimsiquisitive probably the most overrated and worst aged game ever lol

bribe

No hat?

@@finercandy45113 Whaaaaat, no. I have no idea what you're on about.

Minish Cap would be interesting to see. In general it's up there for my favorite Zelda games, (I always prefered the 2D games to the 3D ones), but my favorites are the Oracle games, so I'd love to see him find a way to do a challenge run in those. Bonus points if he does both games, because then depending on which he does first, his route might be different.

You can still use ISG with megaton hammer

Megaton Hammer can be used for ISG instead, so it still counts

@@fabuloussuperstar588 Or equip swap the Deku Sticks over Din's Fire, jump slash then ISG. Just as much power as the Master Sword, but infinite.

Don't even need ISG, uninitialized PCS with hammer is good enough. You can even stunlock Bongo with just that.

Gaaaaaaaaaaaay

Hey dude, we all have our bad days, how are you holding up now?

The storm goes away if you die in Wasteland. Might take a while if you have high health, but I think it's a neat little bug.

@@wompastompa3692 yup, works at night and day too to see easier as well, not just daytime.

Another quicker way if you have magic: Doing a quickspin actually removes the storm temporarily and gives you full vision of the flags every time you spin at the cost of no magic. So you don't even need to play a song every time, you can just quickspin and go straight away to the next flag. Works both daytime and nighttime. Of course this couldn't be used without using the sword for this particular challenge, but it's good to know for crossing the desert in a future challenge.

I thought they used them because of that glitch that allows them to hit at ridiculous swing rate.

@Invenblocker Probably, but I think you can use that glitch with swords too.

@@bdhuffman42 Ah, ok. Didn't know it works with swords too.

To have the sfick hit as hard as the master sword they use memory manipulation. It doesnt normally do that.

⁠@@egoalter1276 stick does the same damage as master sword AFAIK. Maybe you’re confusing the “memory manipulation” part with power crouch stab, a glitch that takes advantage of a crouch stab not having a defined damage value, which causes it to default to the last used damage value. This means for example if you swung kokiri sword normally before doing a crouch stab, it will deal 1 damage point, while if you used jump slash with kokiri sword before crouch stabbing you would deal 2 damage points

Oh wow. I gotta try that the next time I play this game.

@@enlongjones2394 With the master sword and hammer there is little point. They do the same damage unfortunately, making the hammer just unwieldy with basically no benefit. As a kid doing a jump slash with the deku stick loads a master sword jump attack for kokiri sword stabs. As an adult, your only option to do more damage to load for stabs is the biggoron's sword, although the giants knife also works as long as its not broken. So you can jump attack nothing but air to load the damage.

​@@JeikobuDid you not see the comment? It stores not just the damage, but the TYPE, which is huge against Bongo Bongo

doesn't that still invalidate the challenge though? the sword was used even if it didn't directly do damage

@@saxeladude if the sword doesn’t hit anything, then I’d say it’s closer to the goal of the challenge than actually hitting with the sword would be.

And the funny is thing is that you really don't, for the most part. Child Link can kill everything with sticks instead of a sword, and there're only three things Adult Link can't kill with the Megaton Hammer. To be honest, it's amazing what you can do swordless in this game.

@@jruler93 Just last two hits on Ganon. Crouch stabs are bugged to do the same exact damage as your previous attack. Entering a new area resets your previous attack, so crouch stab defaults to 1 damage. This hurts anything that sword would.

@@wompastompa3692 Well with that, you could circumvent the last few things you would need a sword for, if you let yourself swing the sword without hitting anything. Just jump slash away from the enemy with the Biggoron Sword and you can kill Dead Hand and Bongo Bongo with hammer crouch stabs; do the same with the Master Sword, and you could probably kill Ganon the same way.

@@jruler93 No, I'm saying you don't even need to swing the sword to defeat DH and BB. Uninitialized Power Crouch Stab does 1 damage that hurts them. Just enter their rooms and start crouch stabbing with hammer until you win. So long as you don't actually swing the hammer, there's no need to swing the sword.

@@wompastompa3692 Yeah, no, I do get what you were saying. But 1 damage is, like, what, equal to a Kokiri Sword swing? Jump slashing with the Biggoron Sword and using that damage in your crouch stabs would greatly expedite the fights.

I hope your feels get well soon! Lol

I grew up with my older brother's files available and just fucked around exploring a lot. I remember discovering enemies change based on whether you were young link or not by going to the forest area and the big beefy guy was replaced by dekus. Fond memories, those

Or possibly any other Zelda game for that matter. Not sure how possible it will be in most games, but still would be interesting to see.

Honestly, that remake is so much better. Tighter controls, gyro aiming, and some prices were lowered to banish grinding. 10/10

MM was unreal, that game freaked me out when I was a kid, still loved it

The only Zelda game I've played is a link to the past. I went and got a Playstation and haven't played nintendo ever since. I might buy am N64 to try this game out. I've heard of some people even claiming ocarina of the time is slightly better than link to the past. I can't imagine that to be true but I'll find out possibly this weekend

​@@The_Hulkster please get back to us and let us know how it went 💞

@@priestesslucy3299 I bought a shield and I found the sword. I need to save the big tree guy with thr mustache. This is a tough game but it's fun so far. Hopefully I don't get bored of it. I'm still curious as to how it's the best game of all time but I'm still early on in the game

​@@The_Hulkster The thing with older games often is that they don't age well, especially in terms of controls. I replayed many games from my childhood/teen years and although the movement etc were horrible i didn't care and had fun. On the other hand when i try old games that i haven't played back then, even if they're loved by many people, it's often that i get frustrated really quick and quit them. So while i love OOT i wouldn't blame someone like you, who plays it for the first time nowadays, if you don't like it. Did you finish it already?

@@christianstachl Hey friend, I actually got really far. I made it to the never land woods dungeon as an adult and it seems like I got stuck and frustrated like you said. That map is neigh unbeatable in mt opinion. Ran around it so much and sucked the fun out of the game. Ah well, it was a good game otherwise

Or hammer

Was hoping someone would add this, that's much of why it just wreaks the earlygame so much.

Replay it, still as fun as it was in the 90's

Since I don't want to lose the heart to edit more putting the extra in a reply under will do fine for these extra points also spoiler warning you should watch the video first. 4. Shadow Lemon's Health is based on your maximum health the more health you have the more it takes to beat him so if you collected alot of hearts you would have made the run very problematic in that section of the game. Also as you may have noticed Shadow Lemon gets more solid as the fight goes this is because he is slowly scanning you throughout the fight and once he is fully solid he goes on the offensive since he now has studied how you fight. But this is why in 3 heart runs he is a absolute push over but in 100% runs he is a rather durable and exhaustive to fight. 5. 38:21 I also see you found the broken Stick glitch if you break a stick with a jump slash in midair and land or get hit after it breaks but before Lemon puts it away or if you hit two things at once with a stick it will break like normal but you keep the broken stick out. It retains the double damage but now it becomes a fully fledged permanent weapon until Lemon here puts it away again. 6. 41:16 Because the Mirror shield is a key item besides being reflective, Like Likes those things that take shields and tunics away cant take the mirror shield away from Lemon meaning you now have a permanent shield even if they grab you so its a direct upgrade over the Hylian shield even if the functionality of it is the same. 7. 44:18 Yep they made not 1 not 2 but 3 versions of the cartridge known as 1.0, 1.1 and 1.2 respectively 1.0 was made when it was first released. (Ironically a month after my birthday with the game being made on 1998/10/21 from what we have gathered from the build date with my birthday being 1998/9/21. Also after it reaches that date of this year the game and myself will be officially 25 years old with me reaching that age a month sooner of course.) In any case 1.1 was made 5 days after the game was first released basically think of it like a back then day 1 patch. 1.2 was made a little over 2 weeks after the 2nd patch. 1.1 Fixed a myriad of bugs in the game. 1.2 Fixed more bugs, changed Gannon's blood to green from red, changed the fire temple music to be a remix of shadow temple's music, and the one dreadful thing in your case fixed that bug your describing that skips bongo bongos cutscene letting you kill him immediately many. They are also the most common cart You can tell the version by looking at the back of your cartridge there will be 2 numbers stamped on the cart if there is only 2 numbers then you possess a rare 1.0 cartridge most golden carts are this version with 1.1 version golden carts being known to exist but are very rare and because of the limited run time of the gold cart paired with it being an update at the end of its production run a 1.1 golden cart of this game is the rarest cart of all. If a letter is followed after the 2 numbers then its one of the two later revisions. XX = 1.0 XXA = 1.1 XXB = 1.2 (This is the one me, and you have as they are the most common cart basically this was the default version made for any future production runs after its first month of release.) As such I do not count the sword use against you on bongo bongo on the grounds that you have to use the sword only because they patched it when it was at one point doable without one. But as you shown Gannon cant be beaten unless you use the Master Sword on him in the finale so the answer to your question is you can beat 99% of the game without the sword but the final hits on Gannon have to be done with the Master Sword you also need to use the sword on Bongo Bongo if you are playing a 1.2 version cart due to the lack of the cutscene skip.

@@videogamerNattie98 Beating Bongo is still doable because of Power Crouch Stab. Uninitialized, it does 1 generic damage.

That's not really a play through but.

@@cax1175he never said he played through it. He said he'd watch this to experience it.

WTH 😂 what are the trees made of titanium

@@TheUltimateMachineGod I think the logic is they came from the Deku Tree, and thus have inherited some of his power. That or Nintendo had a Bethesda moment.

Well, some woods are very strong but the fact that the deku sticks break so easily shows that they are not very strong at all. I am really not sure what the reason for deku sticks being so strong is, maybe to try and and make combat more interesting while ignoring the implication of deku sticks being just as powerful as the master sword? I guess it is not all that unusual for miscellaneous objects to be as strong as the master sword in Zelda games.