Can you find JESUS through LOGIC? 

as a Christian I accepted Jesus through emotion , but my spiritual growth is through apologetics.

As long as you are looking for truth, not willing to follow feelings and biases, Yes

I did. I'm former atheist, logic all the way, logic is entirely on God's side. Madness of the world WICH THINKS that everything is alright, while in the world nothing is "alright", proves it. If godlessness os ok and right, why world sucks and all desire of men are of what Bible describes as God's Kingdom and as what word was BEFORE Adam sinned? How?

Good points. Christians should be the most logical people on earth, but what's sad is we're often not that. I try to be logical and reasonable in my apologetics, and it's an ever learning goal. I was raised in the faith, but it is apologetics that makes me keep the faith. So logic and reason are good tools for Christians. I like to use this to talk to nonbelievers. Keep up the good work. God bless.

Knowledge, logic and reason leads one to Christianity. Faith is the bedrock of one's relationship with Christ. Blessings all.

Where’s the entire video? I’d love to watch it 🙂

Yes.

If you take a look through Proverbs, it says that from God's mouth comes wisdom and understanding. God gives you and I the ability to think, to reason, to be able to be rational and work through the logic of an argument or thesis. Christians should embrace logic more than anyone, as it originates and is sustained by Logos. Thank you Jesus!

As a kid about 6 or 7 years old I kept hearing jesus loves you from the pastor during service then teenage years I fell away. Just recently I started searching for answers to tons of questions and doubts I had. But, after watching apologetics videos and documented evidence I then had solid belief. No doubt jesus will fulfill all the promises in the future.

Keep up the good work guys blessings to you 💒

Jesus claimed to be the 'way, the truth, and the life' (from John 14:6). If He was telling the truth - if He is the answer to Pilate's question "What is truth?" - then there's nothing to fear in using rationality and reason in seeking Him, and nothing to fear in seeking out answers to doubts. Seek the Truth. He doesn't let you down.

With me it was the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation, God showed me that He was in control of history.

I too have gained a lot of confidence in the Gospel of Christ from Cross Examined on RU-vid

If you start with the wrong assumptions, logic may lead you anywhere you want to go.

Some of us come to faith cuz it's like a life jacket thrown at us in difficult moments. The gut feeling and experiences says 'Believe'. But once we are stable again, we can start probing by studying the Scriptures in detail. It invariably leads us to Apologetics. These both are not contridictory but complementary!

So what was that reason and logic that brought her to Christ?

Logos is also mentioned in Proverbs.

Are there another valid ways to find Jesus?

Logic and reason worked for me.

Jesus is Logos. Jesus is Logic.

I love these videos from when Frank was with Tim Stratton.

The coincidence of having this video pop up so suddenly right when I'm in the middle of searching for a psychological, phenomenological, and literary application of biblical stories. It's amazing really. If you want to rationalize God I suggest you watch Jordan Peterson's Biblical series! Prepare your minds for a ride of intellectual prosperity. Goodluck .

I didn't. My spiritual growth came from having my faith challenged by Muslims. My thirst for the Lord has magnified greatly since my days being called, "baby believer". I didn't know what they meant and felt teased. But now I'm praising the Lord 🐑🐛🦋🗺️🙏🎁🕊️ shalom everyone ❤️

I think so. Lord Jesus Christ is Perfect Logic in my point of view.

My question is whats the alternative to logic and how is it better.

Depends on your audience. If it is a logic based individual then logic will work. If it is a person that makes decisions based on feelings then that is how the subject should be approached. That is with any topic.

THE GOSPEL IS THE POWER OF GOD UNTO SALVATION UNTO THEM THAT BELIEVE

Can somebody tell us who's this former atheist woman ?

Amen!!!

Scriptures and Apologetics are not contridictory but complimentary :)

My neighbor is a professor of logic at the University of Science.

The answer seems to me “UNBIBLICAL” ! I think as Holy Scriptures states in St. John 6:44, Acts 16:14, this is God Himself working through The Third Person in the Blessed Trinity Who is The Holy Spirit Who works in us to bring us to Christ ! 1 Corinthians 12:3. I think by reasoning & logic no one can come to Christ. This is denying God Himself ! Titus 3:5, Ephesians 2:8-10, Psalm 106:8. Ephesians 2:1,5, Colossians 2:13 & Psalm 3:8 ! He only quickens us. It’s purely by His mercy & grace alone !!! St. John 1:12, 13. If a person comes to Christ by reason & logic, then Holy Bible (Preaching The Word of God) & Holy Spirit are unnecessary !!! Have you ever wondered why the greatest philosopher’s ever lived & presently living in this world could NOT find Lord Jesus Christ by reasoning & logic ??? 1 Corinthians 1:23. 2 Corinthians 10:5 (AMP).

So, he said the Christians should be the most logical people who look at reason, use logic, and evidence. And, "we honor God by being logical". That's his words. Let's look at general revelation. General revelation is the idea that you can look at nature, see "the creation" and you will know that God exists and that God created the universe. Not only will you know, you will be "without excuse". So, this passage in the Bible, in Romans 1:20, is saying that general revelation is proof that God exists. However, general revelation is not a valid approach in science to determine the truth of your claim (that God exists and God created the universe). General revelation assumes the conclusion without evidence. Looking at nature is not evidence. Also assuming the conclusion (that God created nature) rules out other possible explanations, and so it doesn't prove the claim. Know that what appears to be "common sense" has been incorrect many times in science once the experiment was performed. So, we can't just look at nature and assume there was a designer, who is personal, and who is God.

Yes you can find logic thru Jesus

Yes Jesus is the word. And he is logical. And yes we should be logical. But saying those things is not the same as saying that people come to faith through logic. There is a simple reason why it cannot be the case - if it was the case then those with greater intellectual capacity would have an unfair advantage. The place of apologetics is to seek to remove wrongly founded intellectual objections in the hope that people will allow their hearts to engage with the truth. It cannot do any more than that. And because I believe that I believe there is only a place for traditional apologetics and not for cultural apologetics. We cross the line when in our apologetics we seek to make Christianity seem apt or useful. Doing so has the effect of contradicting the truth of scripture that we can already all know that we are accountable to God and that we are without excuse. To make Christianity useful is to give the impression that it's ok to make God our servant instead of the opposite. For example the fact that Christianity gives meaning to suffering may seem useful to persuade someone to become a Christian but in doing so we give the impression that it's a good thing to relate to Christianity in respect of its usefulness.

I have enough reason to be logical? 🤔

Relentless quest for truth (and dropping the ego and humbling oneself) will always lead to God. Just be careful of the controlled opposition out there

@ Cross Examined Using the video equivalent of "Pull Quotes" on short videos is really annoying. Just start off with the question, please.

Irrationality is literally satanic. Logic is God's beauty manifest in the most ethereal form we can comprehend

He ask; "when does reasoning end"? It never will, as God himself said of "reasoning" (and the host mentioned); "Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord:" Isaiah 1:18.

He didn’t answer the question. I see what the man was asking

I have a really important question!!!!!Can faith alone save you???

I'm confused, how is it possible for someone who meets jesus in the flesh to deny his existence..?

Excellent question and response. For decades genius scientists have sought to discover a unifying theory that explains how everything in the universe fits together and works. I am certain it is there and can be found. Logic is an important tool and substantive component but at its core is God the Father. When the scientists approach the puzzle with that key they shall figure it out.

The historical evidence for Yeshua the wandering messianic preacher is found in one book, a collection of stories that began to appear on parchment thirty years after Yeshua was executed. Interesting how "she was so set against Christianity that she said that if Jesus had appeared to her, she would have gone to a psychiatrist rather than church." And yet she converted because of an ancient story that violates the Laws of Nature. The Laws of Nature describe how things work in the real world. And that was the name of that tune.

People put too much faith in logic. Kurt Godel showed us logic is limited. It’s prone to inconsistency and incompleteness

Isaiah 1:18 (KJV) Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool. Reason with the Father , not man .

Faith is to use common sense make deduction use reasoning and come to a logical conclusion.

Nature creating nature is illogical. Something supernatural creating the natural is logical.

Something logic should be factual Something factual means it's TRUTH TRUTH must correspond to reality How to test for TRUTH; Truth is historical, archaeological, scientific, empirical and experiential Test all the religions with this Christ will stand out

If you are in doubt, keep searching, because God will allow Himself to be found.

Logic can be a good way of leading one to Christ, the problem with all this is that no matter how much knowledge, logic or reasoning you have and you know that Jesus is true, none of that will matter if in the end you don't have faith. Jesus says if we had faith as mustard seed we would move mountains. If we truly believe that Jesus is real we will not only believe in him, remember the devil also believes in him. But we will Follow him! and Change! God gives us a new heart, a new way of thinking once you surrender to him, and in that journey of knowing Jesus more and more if you keep seeking and asking for The Holy Spirit, you shall receive, but it's not a change overnight, it's a constant grow. But count the cost, it's not easy, and you'll probably will have to leave a lot of things behind, passions, dreams, etc. If your Want and Love for Jesus is more bigger, you'll change, you'll cry, it i'll be hard but you'll see a change, because God's working on you, Follow Jesus today my friends, no religion, no pastor, just Him, it's a relationship, a personal one with The Creator of all, may the Grace of Jesus be with you all.

If one is willing to believe, yes. That's the real question though isn't it? You can dismiss or deny anything if you really want to. Nothing will be true in your mind if you don't want it to be. There's archeological, historical, and prophetical evidence for the Bible and the testimonies of millions of modern day believers who've been radically changed by having put their faith in Christ. There's many reasons to believe in Jesus Christ as the Son of God. Logic can absolutely lead one to consider these things and look into them for themselves. But the ramifications of that knowledge are enough to scare many off. Learning that there is an omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent God who created all things will hold all accountable and judge all things, that we've sinned against Him and are condemned to Hell in our present condition is more than most the proud, self righteous and financially successful are willing to pay. It's all about the will. Do you really want to learn that you're not as good as you think you are? That there's nothing you can do to better yourself in God's eyes or earn your place in Heaven? That you must repent, surrender to Christ and follow His ways, forsaking your own? That you'll go to Hell if you don't repent and submit to Christ as your Savior? Only you and God know that answer for sure. But that's what will make the difference between learning, accepting the truth, being saved and knowing God or not. What is it that you want?

Athiest define logic logically? 🤔🤔🤔🤔

You could seek God in very simple way without difficulties , and thats the best thing for man to do because thats God what looking for men

It was logic that brought CS Lewis to accept Christ

This really sounds like pure Pelagianism.

Well since the word logos is the Greek for word of God, and it’s the same word as logic, as long as the logic is truly the logic of God and inspired by the Holy Spirit not your own human logic, than God is logic

Question: Do you think you are a good person? If so, have you ever stolen anything, lied, looked lustfully, or used God’s name in vain? (Oh God, Jesus Christ, etc.) If you have done this, you have violated God’s moral law, you admit that you are a liar, a thief, a blasphemer, and an adulterer at heart. So, if God gave you justice right away, would you be innocent or guilty? Obviously guilty. Heaven or hell? Obviously hell because you are a criminal in God's eyes. Don’t ask for forgiveness, try it in court: Judge, I raped a woman and killed her, but I’m so sorry and I won’t do it again. You would still go to jail because you shouldn’t do it again and you should be sorry. So is there any hope? Yes, there is! Out of love and mercy, God became a human being, Jesus Christ. Jesus lived a sinless life and finally died on the cross to bear the punishment we deserve. His resurrection proved that His death( more accurately, His sacrifical Blood) was enough to pay our penalty, the penalty for our sins. When someone pays your fine, the judge can leave you, dismiss your case, it’s the same with God. Jesus paid our penalty and in order to accept the free gift of salvation from God, we must believe (have faith in Jesus for our salvation, His finished work on the Cross). That's it! God bless you and feel free to ask me any question about this. Romans 3:10 New International Version (NIV) 10 As it is written: “There is no one righteous, not even one; Romans 3:23 New International Version (NIV) 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, Romans 5:12 New International Version Death Through Adam, Life Through Christ 12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man,(A) and death through sin,(B) and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned(C)- Romans 6:23 New International Version (NIV) 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in[a] Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 5:8-9 New International Version (NIV) 8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God’s wrath through him! Romans 10:9-10 New International Version (NIV) 9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. Romans 10:13 New International Version (NIV) 13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”[a] John 3:16 New International Version (NIV) 16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. Ephesians 2:8-9 New International Version (NIV) 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.

The laws of logic are grounded by... existence itself. Existence is what it is and cannot be what it is not... Non-existence by definition cannot "exist", in the same way nothing cannot "exist". Existence is the necessary precondition for reality. One cannot say that logic is grounded by an ultimate mind, but that mind be of a married bachelor. That is self-refuting.

LOGOS RISING

I’ll be the 667 comment. I ❤️Jesus!

Can you find JESUS through LOGIC? yes on john 20:25 asking like thomas do

The answer is no....

No. You have to assume some things and than use logic. But you must start with faith itself to logically argue for Jesus.

Not through the worlds logic

Christianity: For we walk by faith not by sight (Corinthians 5:7). Therefore, we make it our aim whether present or absent to be well pleasing to Him (Corinthians 5:9). Blessed are those who do not offend God.

The Gospel is logical because God Himself is the foundation of logic. You can't divorce faith from reason. You can't divorce the intellectual from the Spiritual, because both come from God. Unfortunately some Christian's try to divorce them, thinking that the "intellectual" somehow undermines the "spiritual". But they are mistaken.

You can, just the simple fact that he was crucified at the age of 33 , on the date of 3rd april, 33 AD and he raised on the 3rd day, it's already a lot of logical coincidences that don't usually occur, without divine intervention. You can see the trinity stamp all over the place. And that on the cross with him were 2 other folks which is 3 in total, GOD likes to speak numbers and he does that all over the creation, all over the bible and all over the history.

@Cross Examined I disagree, Logic can be used by the devil (and has been) to separate people from God. My view is that you cannot come to God unless He elects you to receive Him. Then, you will have to agree on who He is, what He does and above all else that He is being Truthful and Righteous. Full Stop. To accept Jesus you'd need to accept a couple of FACTS that go against your everyday observations of the world and how it normally is 99.99% of the time. You have to accept that Jesus was born of a Virgin, that the Holy Spirit exists, that He was GUIDED and SENT by God to perform a task in our realm. That He resurrected and is chosen/anointed by God to perform every deed He has been given by the Father. These are all things, that you cannot use common reasoning and logic to ascertain if they real events unless you suspend your disbelief and accept a series of events, that while "unconventional" in the reality you are well acquainted with...are none the less true. Everyone is a sinner on this Earth. None are better than any other. Some have been chosen by God, some are not chosen. Some are chosen but do not choose to believe in Christ or God's testimonies about all the event that have happened until now. (For which they were not present, but which someone else, material or immaterial has given an account of.) This is why Faith is an essential piece of the puzzle. Even if we cannot know, we are told the story and it is up to us to accept and believe; or to reject and use solely our reasoning to assess the recounting of events with which we are unfamiliar with as being possible in ordinary life. By logical reasoning alone, you will not come to God. Unless you have the same experiences described in the Bible, you cannot logically conclude it is true. Though God has indeed done everything He has described, He makes it appear foolish to some and amazing to others. He alone makes some blind and deaf to the Truth and some able to SEE and HEAR the Truth He has recounted through His Son and the many Prophets. Do not be deceived that you can conclude Christ identity can be ascertained by Logic and Reasoning alone. Unless you have a taken a Leap of Faith that some specific event is as described are Accurate and True. You will not come to accept Christ as plausible. Instead, you will be lead to the opposite conclusion.

To believe in magic and wizards, you must leave reason and logic at the door

If you read the Bible and actually start applying logic to what it says rather than praising how great it is, then you'll start to see the truth. The Bible falls apart if logic is applied.

*_John 3.16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. 18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God._* _Jesus Christ loves you. Only Jesus Christ saves. Repent and be saved. God bless you and your family in the name of Jesus Christ._

As the very idea of a god is not based on actual logic: no.

Sucks that you need logic instead of straight up evidence.

I use common sense .

Reason, logic and evidence? You use these words, I don't think they mean what you think they mean. You can't reason or logic a god into existence; that leaves evidence. Show me the evidence.

Jesus is THE Logos (Logic)

You believe Jesus is the Word, and the Word is God, follow Jesus, and don't keep the Word of God. That is not logic, A=C and you missed it!

logic > the power of the Holy Spirit and the preaching of the Word? God saves no one through logic. it may appear that he does but scripture does not teach this and none of the verses you cite have anything to do with logic being the tool that God uses but rather his word and his Spirit The Spirit gives life John 6.63 Faith comes through hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ. Romans 10.17

There is no logic, reasoning or evidence that leads you to any gods. Especially not the clearly fictional gods of Christianity.

It’s pretty evident that when you take a close hard look at society those who believe in God are more logical, reasonable, rational, and have a stronger grip on reality

You wanna use logic? Please explain this : how can jesus be a MAN and divine at the same time? GOD is independent, Everything that exists (including Jesus) is dependent. It's impossible to be dependent and independent at the same time, just like it's impossible to have a square circle.

The question is actually loaded. We need to stop assuming that atheism is logical. It's the opposite.

“If you declare with your mouth “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved” (Romans 10:9). Now is the time to accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior. Obey His commands and repent of your sins because Jesus is coming back soon. Tomorrow isn’t promised.

There’s always that one dislike

Yes you can find Jesus through logic. You will find that the historical Jesus (Yeshua ben Joseph) was an unremarkable rabbi from Nazareth who died in his 30s.

If you’re honest with what you read and research as well as have integrity within yourself, it is more than reasonable to use logic to come to the conclusion that Christ Jesus aligns with the objective, transcendent truths of life as a whole.

According to the bible, none of the disciples believed Jesus had risen until they saw him with their own eyes. Why should we believe on anything less?

If you’re honest with yourself and following the evidence where it leads without prejudices, then all road lead to Jesus. It’s how I came to Jesus.

You find Jesus through faith. I love apologetics but we shouldn’t put it above the word of God and the gospel message. I whole-heartedly agree with the brother who asked the question. People don’t come to Christ due to intellectual reasons, they don’t come because they love their sin.

God is a God of logic and reason. All of creation was made through God's infinite intellect. His spiritual system (morality, justice, etc.) is entirely logical. It is possible to plumb the depths of existence with one's mind alone, seeing the architecture of reality for yourself.

Ermmmmmmm... you mean that imaginary friend who lives in the sky .. ???????

Is god willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able not willing? Then why call him a god?

While logic and reason leads to Christ, and people like John Frame do an amazing job at displaying that to be so, the matter of unbelief is never one of proof or evidence. Romans 1 tells us that that carnal man knows the truth of God in his own heart but suppresses it and exchanges it for a lie. While logic, reason, and evidence may be a means by which a soul comes to Christ, the ultimate catalyst is beyond that but a matter of the darkened heart being illuminated by the Spirit and penetrated by the power of the word of God. Paul stood at Athens, the intellectual capital of the world, and he did so as one of the most learned men that history as ever seen. Yet we do not see Paul employing any cosmological arguments or debunking the swoon theory, instead he tells the Athenians that this unknown God is the very one in whom they live and breathe, that they would not be there apart from Him. From there he proclaimed the Gospel straightforwardly. While these things have their place, we cannot forget that the salvation of the lost does not come by intellectual persuasion, for even demons believe and tremble. At the end of the day it is not a matter of proof but a matter of the carnal man not wanting to give up the stolen throne of his life and relinquish it to the rightful King of kings.

People: Yes, through emotional logic

reasonable = Christianity. end of the story.

Logic? Of course there is. Faith is believing on something with out required evidence.

Faith: a Belief, founded in Evidence. I have an overabundance of Faith! One of the things that provides evidence for Faith in God, aside from Jesus Christ's existence... Is that Atheism, when asked about the ultimate origin of existence, universe, or life; has to rely on the absence of evidence... To assume that this origin was completely secular in nature. (Or the equally assuming prospect, that there is no ultimate beginning. Because existence is eternally cyclical, endlessly repeating phases of existence)

No God the Father through the Holy Spirit brought her to Jesus “Christianity.” Don’t let logic reasonings distort the truth. John 6:44 Colossians 2:8