I was a liquid fuels mechanic in the Air Force. It was common practice to work on the fuel systems, get soaked in fuel head to toe, and even clean huge fuel tanks like 420,000 barrels or 17.6M gallons of JP-8. I have been exposed to JP-4, JP-5, and JP-8 for 13 years in service along with diesel and normal unleaded pump gas.
Thank you LFM for keeping our fuel systems up and running/clean, especially some of the older hydrant systems that are/were way beyond their expected in service use dates, and keeping the sludge in the bottom of the bulk storage fuel tanks from getting to deep. POL always appreciated LFM for doing what they did, so we could keep doing what we did.
I was a technician on the heavies both as a CC on the C5A and the B52G and AR shop on the KC135 KC10, E3A AWACS also in CES as a power line technician ee worked on the airfield lighting system
Navy ABF here. While going through my record I have evidence of JP5 in my eyes, dizziness from inhaling in the pumproom, on my skin due to cleaning machinery.
I was too on the Ranger, JP in our fresh water all the time.i was also a ships company jet engine mech in AIMD. We got soaked with fuel all the time, just part of the job. That is not even talking about other toxic chemicals used to wash/clean part and our selves.
I was a 92F in my Army National Guard unit for the entire 8 years I was enlisted, which included a deployment in '09-10. We used JP-8, but also dealt with avgas on occasion. Breathing in fumes is almost unavoidable during daily operations, especially when testing the fuel and filters (aqua-glo/millipore). JP-8 was used often to douse trash in burn pits...never gave it the taste test though, lol. More information can be found in chapter 29 of the CFR. JP-8 later became F-24.
I operated fuel pumps on an oiler in the USN. We had to loosen the packing glands on the pump bearings to let fuel leak into the bilges to cool the bearings. I got JP 5 baths all the time.
I was an aircraft electrician on the A10 at England AFB, so I was exposed to jet fuel on the flight line and England AFB also has massive amounts of PFAS. I have CLL but the VA has denied my claim many times saying there is no connection
Possibly. We have done letters like this in the past. If you would like to send me an email at leah@prestigeveteranmctx.com we can get you come info@@toddferrell2322
Old school military firefighter. We burnt very large quantities of JP-4, which is not used anymore, at Chanute AFB. We also frequently had training fires using JP-4 and JP-8 at our permanent bases. Our gear and uniforms would be soaked in jet fuel along with AFFF.
My husband had his military fire fighter training at Chanute. He was stationed at Whiteman. He has claims for high blood pressure, high cholesterol, asthma and psoriatic arthritis. All denied and in appeals for almost two years. So was before the pact act. Now a claim for prostate cancer, filed with the pact act, denied because of no service connection and in appeals again. Though the VA says yes he was exposed to a Tera, but the examiner of the c&p says not service connected. We don’t know many military fire fighters that get approval for anything even though they were exposed to a ton of stuff while serving g this country.
Before Jp-5, there was JP-4. Fuel handlers , AFSC 631. Fuel handlers are exposed to jet fuel, diesel fuel, aviation fuel, automotive gasoline, and, last but not least, deicing fluids daily.
I was on an Aircraft Carrier and worked down in the engine room it was hot and must of us sat infront of the large supply vents that came through the intake vents from the flight deck there was also JP 5 in the drinking fountains down in our main space.
I worked in the Galley on the USS ESSEX and we would have the Jet exhaust constantly blowing into our ventilation every time the Jets power up to take off.
8 yrs enlisted usaf JetMac in 90s. Flight Line and back shop. Fumes from flight line nonstop in back shop and especially on flight line. Many hours of changing fuel related components and usually soaked during routine fuel system repairs. Face, arms, hair, chest, crotch. Breathing issues now and warts on hands/arms.
Some veterans in Vietnam used jet fuel to burn human waste in 50 gal half drums , they stir it up and pour in the drums and through a match i it and smoke went everywhere.
I was a 92L (Petroleum Laboratory Specialist) we were responsible to make sure all JP-8 Fuel was mission capable. We would conduct so many tests on JP-8
The exhaust from burning JP-8 always made my stomach hurt. All the generators and vehicles burned JP-8. If I get a weird cancer, I am blaming the JP-8.
While in Viet Nam we had Multifuel truck engines that used JP4 most of the time. It ran cleaner and performed better than regular diesel. I have had problems with my gut (GURD), skin and others. We use ti wash our hands with it to get rid of old grease and dirt stains. Not as bad as some of these people but still exposed to it 12 hours a day6 and 1/2 days a week. Also respiretory problems.
I was a USAF Firefighter for 10 yrs. We used JP 4 and 5 for training at our burn pit area for years. We used AFFF to extinguish the fires. I now suffer from gastrointestinal issues and battle with colorectal cancer.
navy search and rescue swimmer in the 80s. we took fuel samples under the h3s every day and got soaked! also swam in otto2 torpedo fuel recovering torpedos in puerto rico had pounding headaches, tinnitus and apnea ever since.
I just got diagnosed with prostate cancer. I’ve been dealing with migraines since I was in service and started having seizures one year after getting out. My doctor said my children need to be checked ten years before me and my grandchildren 10 years before them. Oh yeah, my dad served eight tours in Vietnam as a blue water sailor and was exposed to agent orange, died at 45 do to “undetermined natural causes.” Starting to think that’s the plan for all my family line.
I was on a Navy oiler/supply ship in Vietnam. My bunk was directly above one on huge JP5 tanks. We also had black oil and aviation gas. If being in the combat area just offshore under fire wasn't enough, I learned about the dangers of toxic fuels recently.
I was stationed on NAS Dallas in the late 80s. I was in the medical clinic which was very close to the flight line. Several times a month there would be heavy jet fuel fumes wafting throughout the clinic. Also, if you were standing outside and they were testing jets the noise was deafening. I now have menieres syndrome, tinnitus, hearing loss with processing defects and vestibular disturbances. It has gotten to the point that I cannot work. I have applied for disability in May of this year. I’m still waiting.
I am a mechanic for USAF fuel trucks. I started this job in 1990. Had an incident in 1992 where 6,000 gallons of fuel was dumped on top of me while trapped under a refueler. VA still says no connection between my gastrointestinal issues and JP8 ingestion. 🙄
Did you file with a nexus letter? They have denied numerous conditions previously so I filed using jet fuel exposure as the cause...they claim they didn't find a link so let's see what they say this time...I was a weapons loader on aircraft...I also refueled all the equipment we used when I was on duty...it shouldn't be so hard to get things service connected.
I have documented toxic lead exposure in my military medical records (worked on the indoor firing range) and they denied me anything related, found other ways to get my 100% P & T however. Funny thing is most of my conditions I claimed can derive from my lead exposure.... an yes I worked on the airfield as well around fuel!
I was a Huey mech 30 some yrs ago now I have undiagnosed chronic pancreatitis had a pancreatic bypass and took my gal bladder Was wet from fuel a number of times that and cleaning parts in mek Was part of my initial claim but never got really looked at
With in-air jet refueling, folks on the ground are also subjected to cancer causing jet fuel/benzene due to normal spillages. I bet that’s why folks in Fallon, Nevada were mysteriously getting Leukemia. It was because of all that in-air jet refueling overhead. Edit: jet fuel spillage occurs on every basis during in-air jet refueling.
I was a Aircraft Fuel Systems mechanic at Hill AFB back in the 80's. Where I was working in the fuel tanks and was exposed to JP-4 and Hydrizine on the F-16's. Is there any information on skin contact and inhaled fumes illness?
What I'm finding online is, if you do a search for long term jet fuel exposure health hazards, you might not always find very much current documented proof/information, but I am finding more by being more specific about whatever the illness/es is/are you might have, and try and research Jet Fuel JP4,5,8 hazards/toxins and what part of the body they can affect, and how. The Central Nervous System can be affected by inhaling JP8, even at a moderate level from what I'm finding, if the inhalation exposure is over a prolonged period of time, like months/years. I'm just scratching the surface of what is out there, and though I've handled JP4,5, diesel, mogas(regular gasoline) as well, my main focus has been JP8 since I was around that a whole lot more over 21 years.
I flew and worked around acft and the different aircraft fuels. JP 4 JP 8 JP 5. The acft I mostly flew carried 300,000 lbs of jet fuel . Air Refueling and Bombers.
I was in the Army, my MOS was 76W10 Petroleum Supply Specialist, and I worked at the Airfield as a Aircraft Refueler. I slipped off a Chinook Helicopter and Wasted JP-4 in my Eyes, so I was Exposed to JP-4 wasting in my Eye, face, and chest by way of a freak accident, plus the constant Exposure of fumes that nobody ever told me that was dangerous for 8 hours a day, five days a week, for Well over a year and 7 months.
In 1980's I Hauled 5,000 Gal Tankers of JP-4, mow Gas, and Diesel all over Germany delivering it to Military bases and Always had it all over me and my boots and no way to wash it off till I got back to post which was from 4 to 8 hours a day and sometimes longer
I was a harrier jet mechanic from 1984-1994. And exposed to jet fuels numerous times. I now have Rheumatoid Arthritis and no one can tell me where it came from. Along with other forever chemicals. I have been waiting a rating since Feb 27, 2023.
Well, I guess sitting in the rear of C130's & C141's chuted up & waiting sometimes for an hour to board a running aircraft, was common practice back @ Pope AFB, aka Green Ramp, spent years sucking up the JP4 used back then, maybe JP5, but glad our squad / stick was smart enough to have Jack D in our canteens to wash it down!! 🤪
I have a question about DBQ’s. When the doctors tell you that they don’t fill it out. And their supervisors say it’s not their job to fill it out. Who do you go to next?
Jesus Christ I am mortified. I was an R-11 (refueler) mechanic in the Airforce for 5 years. Working on them almost every day. I had it on my hands, splashed in eyes, taken small baths in it from unforseen maintenance issues. I have a LOT of the exact symptoms that I claimed on my VA but I'm praying they are not all related. I don't even know where to begin
I haven't talked to them much. They have called me a few times and they're quite rude so I just let it go to voicemail. I hate worrying about this stuff.
🤦🏼♂️Just now hearing about all this. Guess I've got some research to do. 77F which is now 92F i believe. Everyday exposure spent alot of time covered in fuel.
I work around JP-4 and Mogas with heavy exposure while pregnant. I have developed issues which I believe is service connected to this. I can't get a VA doctor to commit to this, only logs in my records that I say that I believe it is caused from the fuel exposure. It is so frustrating. I filed a claim but having cognitive issues writing my statement. I am concerned how the C&P EXAM will go.
in combat areas JP5 was used instead of diesel. during the vietnam war diesel powered ships and boats used JP5 in transit after they left US ports going to vietnam. and in vietnam. JP5 will run a diesel engine just fine as long as a small amount of lube oil to the JP5. so if you had to add lube oil to your fuel this means that it was JP5.
Do articles help influence my doctors/raters to go in my favor? since they went to med school and I did not. I was exposed every day to chemicals for over 5 years, I suffer from fatigue and gastro issues, and I am not sure how to link it.
Well that is a tough question sir. It really just depends on the specifics. I am sorry to hear that you are suffering form this. Have you considered reaching out to a VSO to assist you with your claim?
My carrier USS Abraham Lincoln had a jp5 leak in the potable water system so i know i injested it for years but then they said it was too low like 1 parts per million and it wouldnt hurt is
22yrs 2 months of dealing with JP8 fuel(MOGAS & others too) in the US Army. Full body soakings, face shots, eye blast, inadvertent taste testing, and the constant hand soakings for years. I have refueled everything from small jeeps to Navy Sea Stallions in and out of combat, in addition to laying down mobile refineries for ship to shore operations and the VA denied me for skin issues.
Hi Leah, I was a 77F Iraq vet and then became an af pol ever since. I’m about to retire next year from the guard I’m not sure what symptoms I have since I’ve been the fuels ncoic of everything and touching them as early as 2001😅
I have a question. Lets say I did everything you said, got all my diagnosis and then I was given medication and my symtpons went away or slowed down alot, when I talk about what bothers me about my conditions, do I tell them how it used to be without medication or how the symptons with medication?
92f petroleum supply specialist. I transported fuel all across Iraq and had many exposures from uploading and offloading fuel. I recently got 50% for migraines connected secondary to ptsd through TERA... i feel my gerd should have been approved as well but it was before TERA was a thing I'm at 100 so i guess I'll leave it alone
I was an AF firefighter and exposed to jet fuel, AFFF, and hazardous environments. I’m going to do the same as you, migraines secondary to PTSD. How was the process for you??
@@BOtto23 I did things a bit backwards.. I filled for migraines then I got the diagnosis at the VA.. I kept up with appointments and I was denied then I did a supplemental with a Nexus and a dbq.. Actually her service provided the Nexus and dbq but she wasn't the doctor who wrote it. it came up to 1000 in total but it got approved 8 months later.. which got me to 100%... Just got back paid from the date of diagnosis and not the original filing date... But happy either way
@@jahmezis45 ok makes sense. I’m going to file as a secondary, submit my migraine log, and submit a statement of the hazards I was around that cause migraines (jet fuel, AFFF, sand, burn pits)
I was exposed to JP4 to copious amounts as an Air Force fire fighter and have had IBS issues, which is now ulcerative colitis, since. Can someone tell me if I would qualify for disability.
That is a really broad question. Diesel fuel exposure can cause a number if issues to people in the military and people not in the military. It really just depends on the specifics. Thank you for watching!
In the golf, we took showers with jet fuel because the idiots in the tanks that haul jet fuel would turn right around and haul water so we could share with that water.
Same. My husband was an F14 mechanic. Spent lots of time patching fuel cells. He developed eczema or “dermatitis” while he was in. He still has it to this day. I was on the flight line, fuel pits and also worked in haz mat disposing everything. I need to get a claim going for him.
Paratroopers you guys and women that was on Jump Status know we were obviiously exposed to Jet fumes ..because when we deployed to Green Ramp at Pope AB on a jump mission more times than. not we’d be rigged up with all our sh1t on including ruck sack ,weapon ( god help you if you were a M60 gunner like I was ) just sitting there hanging out on the tarmac waiting to board either c-130 ( which you could smell the fumes in that thing ) c-141 Jet Cargo and Troop transport aircraft and Hewey or Black Hawk helicopter ..on a monthly basis
Petroleum Supply Specialist baby 92Foxtrot . JP8 fuel all day . We took shower with that JP8 in Iraq 2008-2009 . I inhaled it . Too late for me it's in my blood and or system . Thank God that I'm not peeing JP8 fuel . Imagine that 😂 and I fueled all types of different birds out there . OIF veteran here
I WAS A AIr Force fuels specialist for 8years while in Vietnam most of my friends who smoked used jp4 in their zippo lighters ,between agent orange and fumes from all kinds of fuel products all my buddies have passed from one form of cancer or another and I'm 100 percent disabled with neurologic issues.
