Ok but that’s Rob Scallon lmao, he possesses the inhuman power to squeeze metal out of anything, therefore it doesn’t really count... plus it’s got an EMG ;)
Honestly the single coil tele tones sound more interesting and colourful to me than the EMGs. That's not to say the EMGs are "bad" per se. It's just that all the metal players aspire to the same aesthetics from listening to the same bands and reading the same forums and end up using similar gear. The net effect is a sort of a "sameness of 'good' tone".
EMG's regardless of the model have always sounded flat to my ear. Maybe it's just my ear, but I've never once gotten a tone I was truly pleased with out of EMG pickups...
well yeah, the guy is a sound ingeneer! he probably knows how to make the drums sound good... and he surely has tons of the "good" expensive gear lying around in his studio.
I’m so confused on why people even ask this question. It’s a guitar, 6 strings, electric pick ups. Just plug it into an amp, turn up the gain or distortion and bam, you got metal. Literally any guitar can play metal lol
With not overly bright strings(i had a problem with my tone a while because of that overly bright amp and strings) and a decent distortion pedal i get awesome metal tones
@@oskarileikos but you still hear the hum poking out a split second after each chug, which is why I'm seriously debating spending the costly amount for song single coil sized humbuckers
This was a great video that I feel was done better than the Strat video was. As a person that uses both Strats and Teles (well, G&L ASATs at least) for metal, I feel like the strat didn't get a fair shake. I know you said that you don't have any high-quality pickup equipped strats lying around, but if you ever do get one, a redo on that video would be cool. Maybe a G&L S-500, since those pickups have a bit more beef to them.
Heavy metal fun fact: The more distorted your tone is the less it tends to show in the mix. This is reason #768 why sound guys and studio engineers hate lead guitar players. LOL! The less distortion you have and the more overdrive, the more the guitar will show in the mix. AC/DC got those huge guitars on Back in Black by cranking the dog shit out of channel switching Marshall amps on the clean side, not the lead side. Those early model, channel switching JCM 800's made back then are legendary for the tones they produced when the input stage on the clean side of the amp was over driven to the point of exploding. Why does this matter? Because the low output Tele factory pickups do not produce a whole lot of distortion which makes them very good for creating overdrive on the right amp. Any fan of the Gibson P-90, which is a low output, single coil pickup, will agree. The only drawback is factory pickups don't really have the output in Db's like the EMG's so, the lows are not quite as tight and the mids are bit more present than they would be with the EMG's. In fact, this point is brought up in the video. I think the single coils sounded better than the EMG's.
this is very true, re: lead guitarists. my usual guitarist loves/loved turning everything up to 11 and just leaning into it. i spent a while tryin to tell him it'd kick through better if he rolled off the dials a bit, but no go. one day, he left all his stuff at my house cause we'd recorded all night, he was only workin a half day, so he was just gonna work-crash-record. while he was out, i ran through one of the songs we were recording, using all his gear to lay out my rhythm tracks and the very mild style lead i'm able to pull off. he was astounded at the results, and i showed him how i'd knocked his gain back just a little. the end result, tone-wise, was near identical, but had so much more headroom to mix with. he hasn't turned his gain up to max ever since
I mean this in the least offensive way. The guy playing the guitars 'player face' makes me think of an extremely powerful villain in Dragon Ball who makes no facial expression but can blow up a solar system.
We had a couple of guys sit in with our band last year to play some Aussie folk tunes. When I showed up to rehearsal the studio guys had, for some unknown reason, plugged the Banjo player into a Mesa Tripe Rectifier hlf stack[1]. You've never heard such an awful racket in your born days... 1) This place is run by a rich lawyer as a hobby. Mesa, Marshal, Engl, & Vox amps. Not the usual solid state Marshall/Randall stuff you usually fine.
I actually like the traditionally lower output single coil pickups that are standard in Telecasters. But then again, i only flirt with metal. I play heavily distorted sometimes, but i lean more towards hard rock or grunge sounds. Just recently got into the Squier bullet series fsr Telecaster and fsr Bullet Mustang, and they sound great. However, i find the mustang to be the ultimate metal sleeper guitar. For 150 bucks, you get a short scale with two really hot, very cheaply made humbuckers that sound great for metal somehow. And even more strange is that once you clean it up, the treble pickup allows for country twang sounds produced by the ultra-resonant body of the guitar. You can get a lot of country out of that mustang. And it sustains for ages. It's crazy.
Stop flirting and jump in the sack dude! Some really fun metal riffs are basically any Lamb of God (especially their first few albums). Some other great metal bands are Children of Bodem, Dark Tranquillity, and Devil Driver.
In drop A, the emgs sounded better in the riff, but the single coils fucking ruined the emgs in the solo they were really nice and clean yet had just the right amount of dirt
Well, Wintersun is one of my favorite bands, they are amazing musicians and the tone on the first album is quite unique. If you don't know them, check them out instead of being a smartass.
Lord Baktor okay, maybe the tone in my comment was misunderstood completely. Your comment regarding Jari and his playing on the debut wintersun album was the most relevant comment I came across. I was trying to agree with you. I fucking love wintersun, and immediately thought of Jari as serious criteria for "can you shred epic sweep tapping god mode on a tele" the internet is a warzone. I was agreeing with you mane
In 1997 here in South Africa, I went to a pawn shop and saw a Nocaster that had flatwound strings and an 80W Marshall Valvestat amp and was going for R3000.00 as a package - That is the equivalent of $600 in 1997 money. I was 18 at the time and had no money, but I should have made a plan to get it. Damn regrets.
Ed Dana Actually, John 5 doesn't exclusively play hard rock/metal, although that's what he's best known for. If I remember correctly, he picked up the Tele for versatility, plus the fact that that was the first electric guitar he was exposed to (namely through the TV show, Hee Haw, which he was a fan of in his youth). Plus, I think he has a background in country music, and until he joined Manson, he was largely a session guitarist.
pretty much correct, although i suspect that any tele he uses with manson probably has some kind of humbucker p/ups, which IMO negates the whole tele effect anyway.
jamesha175 Actually, his early Teles from around the end of his Manson gig/start of his Zombie gig did have models with a humbucker in the bridge position with a traditional Tele neck single coil, as well as all single coil models, with Bigsby vibratos. These days, I think he's using mostly 2-hum models, some with Floyds, and if I'm not mistaken, he may even have some Teles with the Les Paul control configuration. I'll have to check some equipment vids again for the specifics on his recent Teles. I also know that John 5 has a massive collection of Teles at home, probably amounting to hundreds (I don't know the exact number off the top of my head, but I also don't want to exaggerate that number either), so he'll always have a Tele for something non-metal on hand.
Dion R - oh my bad - when i said manson i was thinking about zombie. i meant to reference the zombie john 5 action. honestly i don't like that kind of music but i respect john 5 as a serious guitarist. hey did you know that the sumbitch actually had a hollow plexiglass tele filled with pigs blood for some zombie tours? i wonder what kind of tone the blood imparted? lol.
Saying you can't play x genre on x instrument is the most limiting thing to music honestly. I write all my metal riffs on my acoustic and I honestly like the sound better.
I mean I know people have this stigma of using the tone controls on their guitar (hence the Root model not even having them), but if the twangy brightness of the singles bothers you, it's remarkable what experimenting with it will do. Most humbuckers sound flat and compressed enough already so people that use them, especially hot ones, never touch the dang things. I use them all the time on my single coil guitars but I feel like I'm the only one.
Spot on dude, I learned how to use the volume pot when I bought my strat. I still hate the tone pot because it takes the pick attack away but I might turn it down a bit for some clean stuff.
i get the point here but people who worry too much about using the "right" instrument for their style are kind of silly to me. sometimes you can get the most interesting and unique results by thinking outside the box. i loved how just the normal telecaster sounded here.. and in the right context it would be great in a metal song. why are so many guitar players so nazi-ish sometimes? maybe it's because there are so many people who play guitar, a lot of them have to distinguish themselves or feel like they know more than the average person or something. music is an art form.. don't be a stale artist. take risks; do crazy stuff and don't be afraid to make mistakes sometimes.. otherwise what's the point? there are too many "normal" sounding players out there already. the stuff that interests me is the stuff that sounds different and unique. (of course it goes without saying though that the most important thing is the skill and creativity of the player; vs the guitar or amp or whatever they are using. how many times have we seen someone who thinks if they can JUST get this amazing guitar or amp, then they will "make it." if you're a lousy player then it really matters very little what type of rig you have. and an awesome player will make a $100 pawn shop guitar sound amazing. (sorry for the rant lol)
Maybe it's the same mindset that lead to the console wars. Ragging on other people's kit is really about trying to justify your own decisions. My thinking on the matter is that i own different types of guitars for the same reason i own different types of wrenches. They do different things. somewhat unrelated to your comment, i actually think the standard tele's sound was easily superior. But, to be fair, i'm not a metal fan.
ShortFingeredShreder yeah that grit is nice... until you're mixing and multiple tracks layered over each other causes an ugly sounding screeching because of your gritty gain pumping tone
I don't use Teles (or Fenders in general) because I just personally think they look ugly. I like my guitars to not only sound good, but look good, too. Just my personal opinion, though.
Probably already been said, but Death and The Healing by Wintersun was recorded on Jari’s father’s Tokai Telecaster. Not sure if it was pre or post lawsuit, but the song is so unique because it was recorded on a stock tele.
The humbuckers sound in one sense crisper and more precise, and had a more "traditional" metal guitar sound, but I was actually really surprised how much I loved the single-coils on this tracks! Such a gorgeous, warm, but sludgey tone! (Could just be me but it seems a little silly to me now how many versions of the Tele and Strat are around these days with humbuckers, when you can get such a rich tone for metal out of their traditional set-ups)
I started with a les paul, so that i can play a lot of genres, especially metal, and I planned to buy a tele after i buy a bass to complete my collection
iNDiGO i have bought a contemporary active squire jazz bass, but I don’t know when i can get the tele, the virus is making it hard for anyone to buy anything here in my area
OfficialTechGamer I have a Gretsch Streamliner which is a semi hollow guitar with center block to kill feedback. It is a great guitar and has all the qualities of a hollow body guitar.
Toka Reva Well that's fine but to me it still sounds like there is some moderate blending of samples. There's nothing wrong with it, I believe everyone should use them if they want or need to.
I really love the standard Tele sound in this vid. They really do sound amazing going through high gain, surprisingly. I grabbed a Modern Player Tele for my studio and it cover ALL the bases. Every guitarist who comes through insists on using it for something.
You know, I think the standard Tele gives a bit of an edge to the tone and also sounds really nice. It sounds more unique. The Jim Root Tele obviously has the chunky midrange too. I think putting them both together in a mix would give a really nice sound too.
Late to the party as usual, but I thought at least in the mix, the single coil tele sounded far more clear and you could pick out individual sounds a lot better. It's one of those guitars that does a lot better with a loud cabinet and a hefty dose of gain. (Not too keen on the tuning, but I'd wager no lower than D-standard)
I've got a first act "tele" that's had some fretwork done and it plays quite nicely, and doesn't sound half bad for such a cheap guitar. They also have a custom shop I think in New Jersey that turns out good stuff. Don't quote me on that.
Mehdi Saad a buddy of mine owns a first act accoustic, you know the ones that are the size of a ukulele, oddly enough, it has a dropped down nut so that, if one wished it, they could put a floyd rose locking nut on it. I laughed so hard, I nearly shit myself.
As weird as It sounds, I used to play system of a down on a rosewood tele with single coils and 10s, I also found the gloss finished fretboard really helped out.
3k in comments and not a single one pointed out that savage Tee....Me want!!! Loved the video man. As a matter of fact I own a 2007 58' Reissue Tele and I use it for metal. 11-48 gauge strings with her stock single-coil puppies tuned to B and it sounds killer! The brighter sound actually compensates for the tunning and it never comes out muddy or too bassy and the maple neck makes her easy to play as well. It really goes to show you cant really go wrong with a Fender :)
Correct and he's got it loaded with mini humbuckers (so he said). But we're not gonna see it happening again since he's an ibanez endorsee plus he decided to quit live guitar.
I'd love to hear the single coil tele layered over the Jim Root. In what little metal ive ever recorded i always a telecaster on a light crunch sound over the rhythm track to add a bit more definition to the attack.
DrakosLord as much as i respect the tele, i honestly cant say i want one of my own. ive played a few and it just doesnt do it for me, i will say that i own a strat though lol
I agree with Sean Rutledge. I love the way it sounds and looks and everything. A tele in the hands of the right guitar player is as good as anything else. But idk what it is that everytime I've played one at a guitar shop it just doesn't feel right in my hands, which is a shame because it looks and sounds great. There's just something about it.
+JO. O I've played a couple of teles, and a few in guitar shops, and the best ones were just fantastic. Everyone does want one really ( if you've actually HEARD it). I do have others higher on the list, but that's personal choice.
Bob Job Not everyone, I don't want one. Like I said the ones I played sounded great, but there was just something about the way they felt that just didn't feel right for me. I may have to give them another shot but from what I remember I didn't like the feel as much as other guitars. Don't know what it was. But hey, that's just me. Of course everyone else is different and no 2 guitar players are alike.
I saw Stone Sour in concert in Chicago in the early to mid 2000s- both guitarists played Tele’s through most of the show and their sound was awesomely heavy, crunchy and powerful AF!! I was so blown away! While I think Tele’s look cheap and boring AF, I have the utmost respect for them and actually love the black 3 pickup one I have! I plan on adding a few more to my collection in the future like a B Bender, the Jimmy Page Yardbirds/early Led Zep Tele with the red and green dragon on it, and a Tele that looks like Keith Richards’ Micawber!
More like 'Can a non-metal player play metal'. I mean, even though Christian is an amazing player, his style isn't best for metal rhythm guitar, that made test a bit unclean imo. I propose another video: same guitars, same gear, same riff, but different players. My hypothesis is that a metal player can play metal on everything, the guitar doesn't matter that much.
Ever Since I saw Jim Root playing a Tele on “Dead Memories” Video, my mind changed about the Tele and it’s the guitar I’ve wanted for a years, Black on Black
YES! You can play ANY genre on ANY guitar. You can play Death Metal on a fucking Danelectro. Stop pigeonholing yourselves into these idiotic "rules for playing metal."
Hank Horsecore Yeah, I understand where you are comming from with the noise gate. I have a gibson 50's tribute Les Paul, and tend to play metal, or pop punk. Usually tuned to D standard or drop C.
Ryan Doli have you ever ever heard of Tony Iommi? I suggest you to search for the song 'Symptom of the Universe' and listen to it. 1975 was the year, p90 was the weapon of choice and it still sounds metal as fuck to this day.
Alan James H. Zamorano I do know of Tony and know some Black Sabbath, but never heard that song. I just checked it out, and it sounds pretty killer. Thanks for the recommendation
I just built a T-style guitar kit and now have a new found interest in Telecasters. Something about that bridge pickup and downtuning just sounds right.
Obviously the lead tone was spectacular, but for rhythm work yes you'll likely want to load it with a humbucker or hotrail. Exactly like Glenn said. Honestly though I get as much brightness as I need out of my coil tapping Epi LP or my Gretsch Electromatic duo jet. The Jet obviously isn't as metal per se but I've tried it and actually dig that little bit of brightness even with the distortion. I don't know, Glenn I'd love to see you do a Duo Jet 'Can It Play Metal?'
