This video is SOOO good! It was so much fun filming this in the ✨ wet rain ✨ hahaha. Also, I can’t really tell them apart and I was actually there. Let’s do it again soon! 🐔
The 4D is sooo good, I could tell mostly due to the 4D's spot-on focusing in each shot. DJI has really put together an incredible tool for film makers. I want one, but there is no way I can justify the cost. I could definitely see the 4D being perfect for wedding cinematographers who are often a one-man team and the 4D isn't priced out of range for it to make sense.
No offence, but the 4D's focusing is much weaker than the Sony's.... It does not have eye detect autofocus and it always focuses on the closers part of the face. Watch the DPreview vide on this. Image quality wise it is pretty much the same.
I think some are seeing the 4D as a step up from the typical A7s RS2 setup and that’s fine, I see where that part of the market is coming from. I’m a 6K Red Dragon and Ronin 2 owner with both the Ready Rig and ArmorMan 2.0 vests and a Segway… I’m looking at the 4D in a different way, so for me this video shows how light and versatile the 4D is. What I’m interested in is overall image quality with some standard meter rated tests and how far the gimbal can be tuned in its smooth track/majestic mode.
I had a dream last night about a camera that has auto-iso for the subject(s). In essence, the part of the sensor that is picking up the subject (when exposure is needed) would have increased iso while areas that do not need increased exposure would remain the same. This would allow for a greater dynamic range and close the gap between cameras and smart phones. what are you thoughts?
I'm saying u can just ....change the metering mode... (khaby labe face 🤷🏾♂️) If you are on a newer sony camera try using "large spot" multi or entire screen average modes...those work for me...give it a try.
@@str8poisintv131 sorry, maybe I am not being clear. If you use metering, the entirety of the shot is changed based on the meter. I’m saying the exposure of ONLY the subject would change and the background would be separate. Does that make sense?
@@flochfitness something like this exists that’s called a dual gain sensor. Every other line of pixels records at a higher iso level so that you can have a higher dynamic range. This a more reliable method because it doesn’t require the camera to figure out what part of the sensor to increase the iso for. For example, the fake blur on the iPhone camera does a pretty okay job but it often misses things or the edges of a subject might not be quite right. So imagine that same thing applied to iso, the camera wouldn’t know exactly where to boost it perfectly. So with dual gain, it’s basically recording the image with a low iso and high iso at the same time so you can push and pull the highlights and shadows yourself in editing. I think these sensors will become more common as technology improves because as you can imagine, it takes a lot of power and generates a lot of heat to for a camera to do this. Arri has been doing it for years and the canon c300 mkIII are some cameras that do this and have really high dynamic range (and a large body for cooling and a large price lol)
This is so interesting to me. I have an a7s3. And love it. I do a lot of run and gun on site shoots for my clients. And the pace is usually pretty high. I am so interested in the 4d. And now that I have my camera rigged out, I wonder if I made the right decision. Stabilization in a fast paced environment is so important to me. It seems like the 4d would be great. Although 8-10 hours of it might break my back. Lol.
For a one man shoot with Zeiss manual focus lenses I would want the Ronin 4D. If I could be director with a full crew I'd be fine working with a cinematographer who preferred the Sony.
It's Cinematic Lila! This was such a great comparison. I love how you broke down who each camera suits best. Thanks for this! You guys definitely need to do more collabs! This was a fun couple of days. :)
Really interesting video- the biggest issue for me is glass. Both of these systems would require new lenses which nowadays is more of an issue than the price of the camera body. If the DJi prime lenses for the 4D are reasonably priced then they might get more people like me to invest in their entire system- the Sony G master lenses are eye wateringly expensive for the level of work I do.
What the what. I LITERALLY just looked up how to use guides for PP (I want to create a horizon as FCPX has) and Lila came up as an option. AND WHAT DO YOU KNOW, SHE'S ON YOUR CHANNEL!
Picked up the 4D 8k with the audio expansion and the 1.8 75mm dl lens. Came with free hibright monitor and tx, and the prores raw license. Pricy but It takes all the cake. There is no more cake, cause it’s all been Taken, by this camera.
as a pro shooter making TV commercials, I like the idea of the DJI 4D due to its size and not having to carry the Ronin M around. Its embarrassing turning up for a $5000 shoot with a Sony. I have 2 sonys already so would use one for photos and the DJI for video.
The DJI is not meant for individual shooters. It’s designed to make everything that you normally have a on proper set more efficient. If, as a cinematographer, you’re not also working with (at a minimum) a 1st AC and a director, then there’s no strong argument for it. If you are, it’s potentially a huge step forward.
Great seeing the remainder of the footage with Lila, she’s so cool! Maybe this is rude to ask but does DJI ask for the gear back or you keep it or can buy it at a discount?
Hey thanks for the vid man! Maybe I missed it in the vid but can you plaease tell me what lens you used on the Ronin 4D? If you can make it look that good with color grading, that's awesome! I heard the actual lenses made for it do n't look that great. I want to get a great cinematic look. Out of their specifications, what would be the best cinematic lenses? Thanks man!
Awesome video!! I have A7SIII and wanted to see this test! Question: Is it possible to download a few sample unedited clips to dropbox from the 4D? I want to do some tests
I say it ight be worth renting a ronin 4d when needed for action shot material. and owning a sony for a good old standby. I found its about $500 to rental a ronin 4d for 7 days.
Well done! Best content - real world shooting situation content - I’ve seen covering the Ronin. I don’t really have a use case that justifies the Ronin but interested in learning about it. Thanks for putting this together and sharing it.
I really think it’s a thought-provoking video but at the end of the day it depends what you’re shooting I opted not to go for the 4D simply because of what I shoot and how I shoot, I use a mixture of red and Sony camera alphas whether they are on a gimbal with a steady cam or I fly them with a money shot, I think at the end of the day it depends on the niche that we choose to be identified for our work my personal preference for you running through the forest would have been to have used a camera of choice on the money shot it would be smoother than any stabiliser but it’s just my style of shooting keep up the great work it always awesome
Shooting commercials myself, I must admit that the ronin looks great! However, it brings functions I don’t want to use all the time. I would still prefer the flexibility of an Sony SIII within the smaller form factor. But I haven’t used the Ronin, so I can’t say it for certain.
Awesome video Peter, I did see a difference in the indoor shot, the orange pavotube light at the top of the screen had more of a hot spot on the a7siii and less highlight roll off. Think I’ll stick to my a7siii though haha
I will choose the a7iv cause the price tag and I don't need a lot of slow motion plus I'm a hybrid shooter and I'm coming from the a6400 crop sensor world 😀
Thanks for doing this after video (most only do the initial one). I would go for the A7s3. For me it will just be easier. I use my camera on the move, so need to get out an shoot quick. A bulky camera for everything will be difficult.
I was thinking of a Ronin 4D. Bot bought Sony FX3. Because somtimes i need smaller camera, and you can't make Ronin any more smaller 😀 But u would like to still have it someday...
In the comparison video, I liked the Sony better with its more pleasing colours since the Ronin colours have some kind of green colour there visible in the skin tones and entire image. Also, it doesn't have as nice of a highlight roll-off, which can be seen on the yellow lights. On the plus side, clues seem a little less saturated which is a good thing.
Hey Peter, this question is a bit off topic but still related with the A7Siii (I just got one myself) - Do you ALWAYS have it on PAL, meaning that the highest fps you can access in 4K is 100fps? So, basically, do you ever shoot 120fps considering you are in Europe?
Nice Video! The Ronin is a beautiful setup! The footage that comes out of the 4D looks much more cinematic, it has such a soft but detailed picture with a crazy glow to it. I'm so excited, I just ordered mine.
I wish there was a smaller/cheaper version of the Ronin 4D. Like a Sony ZV-1 size version for us cheaper youtube scrubs. This camera (DJI) with all the accessories is WAY to expensive for what it is.
@@conner_productions Well, maybe I exaggerated a bit but if you opt for the monitor and a few lenses you're quickly over 10k €. Over- or underpriced, that's a lot of money and puts it in a weird market place in my opinion. Something for indie film makers maybe?
i would like to have the A7SIII i rhink it is the better Option for my personal usage I had the A7SII and owe a A7III actual Both still great Cameras But if i could test the Ronin 4D, i would say yes ;)
Ronin lenses max out at 50mm. What's the longest lens it'll take? (Official list includes 105s) Gimbals for telephotos seem nonexistent. Imagine the Nikon 300mm PF on it. It weighs 755 grams, the Sony 100mm 700. Possible?
I wanna add the 4D to cart but since I edit in Resolve and ProRes Raw doesn't work I won't be able to get the full experience. Maybe DJI will add blackmagic raw... yeah right. lol
I could only tell the right one was the a7siii because of the focal length, it looked wider than the ronin and I know the ronin only goes as wide as 24 with a prime. But that's provided you were using a dji lens lol. Other than that, the image quality is indistinguishable.
Thanks for this but they should make it illegal to shoot stabilizer images in 60p or 120p and play back in slow motion to show how stable the gimbal is! 😂
@@edddiengdoh7819 Any Fuji camera is fantastic if you are primarily into photography. Because they focus on that aspect a lot. XT 200 is a great beginner photography camera but it is not a reliable video camera at all. ZV 1, though a smaller sensor comes with built in lens and nd filters. Both are similarly priced so ZV 1 crushes XT 200 in value, autofocus and video performance. Now, it depends on your interest, if you are into photography a lot than I would suggest Canon m50 mark ii. It would be better than Fuji.
Sony is right frame. Since all you hear about with Sony is their amazing color science (and because we’ve watched slot of Sony users lately) the more vibrant pink tint and the brighter but fuller orange lights have it away
Doubt that the 4D can keep up with a cage and handles when filming big dogs. Neither walking or running. The tracking, not the shaking, will loose focus constantly. Image quality doesn't matter if you don't get the shot.
