I absolutely appreciate your non-sugar-coated approach with your advice! Speaking for myself, my eyes are open with regard to female nature anywhere in the world. There are many guys who need to hear these stories to avoid repeating them. Love your content, brother!
First off let me thank you very much for the compliments I really appreciate that. And I do think people like my delivery and how I am open honest and I don't sugar coat anything. Thailand can be paradise if you make it Paradise but if you come here with your eyes closed and you're thinking that it's going to be heaven it's not
Another great episode Mark. keep the new text, it works! Back in the UK i knew a guy through a mutual friend, the guy had a reputation for taking advantage of situations and many unsavoury tales had been told where he had ripped people off one way or another, anyway he got found out cheating by his wife, divorce followed,and a tidy 50\50 settlement was made. its probably 5/6 years ago he hits thailand, he told me personally that he met the Thai girlfriend, built the house up north, don't know what happened then because his account gets ambiguous. Anyway the guy ends up back in the UK zero finance status's, grim tale but probably just karma. looking forward to the next instalment, Keep em coming Doc!
hey Roger thanks for noticing the next text!! I'll keep using it for this series Yeah it's funny I'm working on a video almost the same scenario So sad Thank you for watching and supporting my channel I truly appreciate that Cheers Mate 🍺
16:40 It's funny because my ex who wasn't associated with the red-light district (never asked me directly for money), told me once that she needs money to start her own business, and is thinking about working at the bar to make money fast. Obviously, I knew she was hoping to hear I'm gonna help her. Guess, what I did, I told her, she can do what she wants, but as soon as she starts working at the bar, I will be done with her. You should see the surprise in her face. She never mentioned working at the bar again ;-). As long as you guys will follow one simple rule, it's your wallet, and you are in charge of it, she will behave, and even if not, you'll save time, nerves and money. Make sure, they know, you're willing to walk away if you don't like what they say or do.
A true cautionary tale. Reminds me of a book i read once written by a well experienced bar girl. It is entitled "My Name Lon, You Like me?". (Amazon!). This should be MUST reading for every western man going to Thailand.
I've seen this theme many times, but there's an important data point missing. Her age. Is a 20 year old massage girl looking to be saved? Nope. Is a 40 year old massage woman looking for an alternative lifestyle? Quite possibly.
I think age plays a big role too, but still most of the workers in Thailand are seeing so many foreigners everyday they probably have several boyfriends. I have seen it work in places where there aren't many foreigners in the area though, but that was in Cambodia where they're not as westernized as Thais. But i still wouldn't recommend it 😂.
Would you rather buy a car with 50K miles or one with 400K miles? It's not that she suddenly develops a more loyal character but simply that her circumstances have changed and settling down may be the more profitable option vs struggling to stay afloat in a young woman's world. The mentality is still the same the minute she discovers a more profitable option than you she's gone in the wind. People often say that the locals in third world countries are so nice, they don't have a 'nice' gene, they probably wouldn't be so nice if they lived a first world lifestyle. They just governed by their circumstances. I'd put a lot more stock in the genuineness of a nice person who was financially independent.
An amazing, brilliant opening, "heartbreak and disappointment", perfect for this episode. And the best description I could say about my honeymoon in Las Vegas... Cheers, mate...
hey thanks man I really appreciate that I try my hardest to make the story enjoyable and entertaining yet also tell it so that I'm not making the subject matter feel bad and I'm also not disrespecting the girls. Thank you so much for your comment Cheers Mate 🍺🍺
@@whyhellotherewithdrmarksabean haven’t heard you talk about your cola addiction, I add soda water to cut it down if it’s about the sugar add a packet of Splenda or 2
That was painful to watch and to listen to but I'm glad you are still sending this message to people, it's just a shame these sort of people do not watch videos with warnings about keeping your money close and your woman of pleasure whichever way you look at it at a distance a very great distance but I do believe there are lots of people who do watch these videos and I'm sure they are very appreciative to you for letting them know how things can go so so wrong keep up the good work Milo
Patong is a small place and franags often get "recycled" between the girls. So dont' get surprised that you meet a girl and then later you find out she already slept with everyone you know. They will even get your contacts from your phone to find "who else is here" and target them.
0:57 So true. When will the guys finally understand that to the vast majority of Thai women, we are nothing else but a walking ATM? Like I have mentioned in my previous posts, not only the ´working girls´, but most of the other ones too. It's just the way it is.
Good day Mark, another episode which should now definately open everyones eyes... it's always cool coming home, switching on the TV, moving to your channel and realising, there is a new video... *haha.. you're doing a fantastic job with your "social media experiment" (as you call it) ... i always grab a beer when i see there is new video, not only yesterday.. but this one example of someone being ripped off is just very dramatical. I heard a lot of stories until this day of guys being ripped off for litterally thousands of $$$, some of them have lost their entire capital within just 2-3 years and I'm talking of about 300-500K.. with the result of them moving back here and going back to work... it's just very sad.. but it's not the worst i have every heard about, but surely in the top5... BUT, since the story with Jack is not yet over, i would expect him to climb up the ladder and who knows.. he might be no.1 in a very short time.. not that you get an award for that, but hey... being no1 at least once in a lifetime might be his goal... cheers, keep up the good work and see you soon for a beer or two.. (with no ice in it... ^^), my best wishes go with you, Nino
Hey Nino First off let me thank you so much for the support you've shown my channel with your comments and everything I truly appreciate that. I am working on a video about a guy that did lose every single thing to a Thai girl.... Everything And you're right sadly enough Jack's tail has not concluded and what worries me is that it's going to end in the worst way possible and that's going to be the end of Jack... Stay tuned my friend And again thank you for the support Cheers Mate 🍺🍺🍺
In the 12 years I have lived in Thailand, I have never , entered a street side massage shop, and never will I. If I need a massage, I go to the hospital. Their is no way I gods earth that I would ever consider dating a massage girl.
That's one way to avoid this 😁 my girlfriend and I went to a temple she visites and they do massage there is definitely a different experience for sure done properly it's a killer 🤣🤣
Anything more than a massage is not mandatory. I’ve had fantastic massages when I’ve visited and left happy with just a massage and haven’t been asked if I want anything extra. Get over yourself 😊
It happens. Like you said, especially if you are a nice guy. I've been taken in the past. Never again. (and I didn't lose to the extreme your friend did ... but it's just as humiliating). It does say more about the lady than it does about the gentleman though.
It certainly doesn't pay to be a nice guy when it comes to dealing with the bar girls and the Freelancers.... They will absolutely devastate you financially and emotionally.... Cheers mate 🍻 Thanks for watching and commenting
Lol I'm going to tell you something there's all kinds of fantastic really nice women here you're just not going to find them in the bars and the massage parlors and for the most part you're not going to find them selling themselves on Bangla Road or any other walking Street for that matter.... Thanks for watching and supporting my channel Cheers Mate 🍺
Thanks Jimmy I'm getting ready to release one that will absolutely blow your mind here in a couple of days.. Thanks for supporting my channel Cheers Mate 🍺🍺🍺🍺
I feel bad for guys like Jack. I’m not exactly George Clooney either , so I know how it feels. I believe there is nothing wrong with reaching a mutually beneficial arrangement with someone out of your league as long as you remember it is just temporary fun. With all the videos out there on this subject it is unbelievable how anyone can lose touch with reality so easily. They go half way around the world without doing any research? I guess they are just vulnerable.
Hi Mark. After I watched the video about Bob, and today about jack, I only hope that ALL OF THE NEW COMERS are going to watch your videos. I wish you could write and publish a “MANUAL FOR YOUR FIRST TRIP TO THAILAND”. You know, I am really still shocked. Sometimes it’s really hard to believe. well, it’s quite normal. You can only be thankful that your lesson costed you only 5K.Have a great day mate. THANKS FOR YOUR HELP. 🥃
first of all man let me thank you for the support that you've shown my channel I really appreciate your comments and you watching my videos and sharing them... I don't think I would ever sit down and write a book about it I think that this platform is as far as I would go... I'll be honest with you I would really prefer to do travel videos and show people the good beautiful parts of Thailand but nobody wants to see that they want to learn about this because this is what people are interested in it's what they want to know about... It's sad again thank you so much for your support of my channel I truly appreciate it
I’d add that the relationship with a massage girl, a bar girl, a gogo girl, or a freelancer cannot work because… those girls are formatted differently, according to the job they are doing. The just don’t know what a normal and healthy relationship is and by the way, their formatting don’t allow them to even want that.
Hey Dr Mark, Never been to Phuket/Patong, but in Bangkok or Pattaya, most of the massage shops have prices clearly written on window or on a large board. Not that it matters, because she got into his wallet big time, even if she only charged normal massage price. First time seeing your video. Looks like a nice place in the background.
Here they do as well However not the "full service" prices Also this one palce is a Nuru massage shop and they are expensive to begin with And yeah she got into his heart and his head(both) Welcome to my channel Thanks for watching Cheers Mate 🍺
They change the signs when they see you. They have multiple sets of price signs and when they see a newby or someone who looks as might pay more - they just replace the sign very quick.
@@whyhellotherewithdrmarksabean I’m from Philadelphia and you gotta have game if not you’re gonna get scammed by women. The real issue is lets be honest here, most guys don’t have game and aren’t used to nice looking women giving them attention which equates horrible decision making by the guy.
I met a massage girl. I dated her for 6 months. I fell in love. I asked her to marry me. I found out she had been cheating on me. I was heartbroken. I found out from her friend that she was really a ladyboy, so in the end I win….. right?
In Chiang Mai recently, I saw a lovely girl in front of a massage shop on Loh Kroi Road. She smiled at me, showing a mouthful of orthodontic perfection. It was on a Wednesday, a rainy night., business very slow. I said I wanted a massage, but we had to talk first. We went inside, (the place was nice and clean), I told her what I wanted and of course, she started to demure, till I asked her how much she wanted. Her answer was, of course, "How much you pay?" What I offered was above the norm, but what I was asking for was also above the norm. During the whole lovely experience, she barely said a word. Every time I looked at her, she seemed intently focused on what she was doing. She said nothing about herself, asked no questions about me, but she was kind enough to laugh at my jokes. I became a regular customer, going a couple times a week, and never once did she do the vetting technique most girls do, to see if I was ripe for a sob story. I'm going back to Thailand for good in April ''23. Hope she's still there.
Great story telling skills. My experience is very simple : I am a quick rapid fast learner. It cost me very little to know what happened there. One advise to your subscribers : Read the signs ! Read them ! And have the will and power to say No !
The average wage in Thailand is about 12k. 20 k is a well payed job. A head of a department in a government school is on about 15k the same as a qualified nurse.
I remember in Patong as an average looking guy i normal shape I saw a guy like Jack entering the same parlour as me. The girl he picked said sorry, walked over to me and said: you look like a nice boy. you want a massage? I accepted. Another slightly overweight and older woman offered service to this guy. He reluctantly accepted the offer. When I and my masseuse had some privacy she looked at me and said: I don't like to massage elephants. You very nice man. We just quietly giggled, and she gave me a good massage. And yes, I paid the normal price.
You know something that's sadly the truth. You know kind of hurts my heart to make this video and I probably shouldn't have made it or I should have left certain parts out but in order to tell the story properly you have to include these...
@@whyhellotherewithdrmarksabean yes. I agree. I hate the “on a scale from 1 to 10 he is a 2… she is out of his league”. Concept. But the unfortunate truth is that we’re all a part of the animal kingdom, and there are things that attract us, and things that don’t. Many of these guys could have become more attractive. Lose some weight, hit the gym, eat healthier, dress nicer, see a dentist. I seen some pretty awesome transformations. A guy i knew was a 3 because he let himself go. He did some adjustments and became a 6.
Thanks for telling the facts. It's sad that men get so lonely and are blinded by attention from a gorgeous little worker like that. I agree, get a different massage girl each time. That's the point of paying a professional: When the transaction is over, so is the relationship.
Brian my friend it's beyond sad It's absolutely soul crushing to see what happens to some of these guys.. Jack especially I'm just waiting for the call from one of his friends or relatives letting me know that he ended it all because of this girl...
Hey Peter thank you I really appreciate the compliment.. That's why guys are sharing with me and asking me to make their stories come alive Thank you for supporting my channel Cheers Mate 🍺
These stories are mind blowing to me. My opinion is that if a girl charges for sex then she will defo give it up for free. I'd take em out for a drink or a meal but no way would i just give a chick money. wouldn't do it here so why would i do it in Thailand?
How many clueless people do you know? seriously. I have plenty of friends who have great girls and very attractive to boot some are married. I also have a Thai wife who when I meet her she was working at a hotel reception. She is the best thing ever it's chalk and cheese to the western women I was married to. It's not all total negativity you make it out to be.
no you're 100% right it's not as negative as I make it out to be however sadly enough nobody wants to hear a good positive happy stories they want to hear the crap.... Lol That's the truth look you can meet nice girls here but in the end you're not going to meet them in a massage shop you're not going to meet them as a bar girl you're not going to meet the message street walker or a freelancer... these videos are to try and explain to guys that dilemma right there that if they want to go and find a nice girl they can't do it in these avenues and these venues I'm not so sure that they're clueless as again a lot of these guys are just simply lonely and they've never experienced this before ... Thanks for watching and commenting Cheers Mate 🍺
Another excellent video Mark! You're awesome! While I simultaneously feel sorry for this guy, I'm laughing my ass off at the stupidity! Here is the perfect example of a guy who has more money than brains. A woman's exceptional beauty is in many cases a facade covering the demon within. Unfortunately this is something that only (in most cases) age and experience will reveal. Beautiful bar girl's, massage girl's, street girl's bedazzle for a reason, and the more economically challenged the more ruthless they will be. Enjoy your life, have your sex and walk the fu*k away. Those types are a dime a dozen with a new one waiting around the corner all the time. Your lucky enough to walk away with no disease let alone a hemorrhaging wallet.
Hey man I'm really glad that you enjoyed the video thanks for the compliments.. and yes I can understand why you would laugh but I'll tell you something when you're sitting there talking to Jack it's not so funny it's really not because you can see him going so far down this path that I only envision it ending one of two ways him being absolutely devastated or him killing himself.... One of the two will be the outcome for certain Thanks for watching and commenting
@@whyhellotherewithdrmarksabean Obviously I'm ashamed of my callousness. And from my heart I do feel sorry for this guy. I've just seen this 'same old story' play out so many times in my life, to me its like that bad old joke nobody falls for anymore. Spiritually speaking, the end of the physical body is not the end of life. He will be just fine. This life is an illusion that you experience in this simulation. "For educational purposes only." I'm a life long investigative researcher of 60+ years, published author, video creator and lecturer on the subject. It only hurts here.
I’m sorry to say I married a massage girl she is disabled and so am I and I thought we could help each other but it’s been a one way street now I’m stuck in a loveless marriage in my country.
A sucker is a sucker, the only difference is the amount. It's just like the guy who gets caught stealing a 6 pack is just as guilty as the guy who steals a case of beer. Both of them are criminals so the 6 pack thief can't judge the other guy.
I don't think anyone is judging anyone,, beyong stating some facts about Jack.... Nowad for the financial amounts, this is in a of the worst I've seen As for a sucker is a sucker.... Yup 👍 Sadly true Cheers mate
First if he gave her $9,000 US a monthly, money is no issue to him. His 9k might be your $200. Second why would she stop that rainfall of money??? That 9k has the spending power of 30k a month in the States. She's not too smart. The Thai guy wouldn't care what he was doing with her for that kind of money.
Everything you say is 💯 It's sad but true Thanks for watching and commenting Cheers Mate 🍺 But in a side note he'll be broke in less than a year at this rate
He is moron doing that whether he can afford it or not. I mean, what sort of idiot would give a massage girl or bar girl ( or any woman) 9 K USD a month? Well, this dude obviously, I just wonder about how many other fools are out there.
Your channel is great. I am sure that any of these girls there saw your station they would be mortified. I am sure you are saving guys a ton of money and heartache if they follow your advice
Actually Timothy a lot of the girls here really respect me because I'm not disrespecting them in any of my videos. They also tell me stories which I will be sharing on here Thank you for the compliment and I really appreciate you supporting my channel Cheers Mate 🍺🍺🍺🍺
When I was recently in Thailand for over 3 months I had a sexy 22 yo massage girl become my regular g/f, but I still liked being a butterfly. She even took me out for dinner a couple of times. She still messages me each day telling me how much she misses me and never asking for $, but I’m pretty ambivalent about her. I’m still a very hansum man in his mid 50s. I didn’t need to take her out of the shop. In fact, towards the end of my holiday she took herself out of the shop full time and I wasn’t paying her. Gave her 5000 baht when I left as a gift …
Why would you get emotionally damaged. There is an old saying. You reap what you so bro. That being said, there are so many other great Thai woman that need you and will love you as much as you love them.
Don't expect any more from her than she is willing to give. Her place, her rules. That's how you become her jai dee. Heck, I'm no missionary out to save anybody, live and let live and mind my own business. Listen attentively to her tales of woe, don't buy into them then shoot the gap ASAP.
Hey Bruce that's some good solid advice actually. a lot of guys get caught up in the stories and the hardships tales that they tell. Thanks for watching and commenting
Great info for the newbies. They will still lose but hopefully this will mitigate the loss. I’ll tell you my story when I come. Mine has a happy ending. ( pun intended )
a lot of the time I hear guys tell me that that oh she's different she's different and I always tell them no brother you only see her differently.. Thanks for watching and commenting
I had a non bar girl, but she was money minded like even the bar girls. Thai women are different to Western women. The system is different to Australia, Us, Canada, UK etc.
I think now with the prices here it might be a good time to buy And yes you could rent it out while you're away Just keep in mind that you need to really research the building you're buying in Cheers mate 🍺 Good luck
Yeah You're right about that The sad thing is when you don't love yourself or even like yourself Thailand is not the place to be... Thanks for watching and commenting
Omg I've heard some stories but that takes the biscuit. I've heard a lot and seen a lot on my 40 trips to the land of fake smiles., by some not all. Why don't people listen to the beatles and take in the message money can't buy you love. Ps I'm not going to judge jack or put him down. I've made mistakes that have cost me, but nothing like jack. Love is indeed blind.
I can just imagine that as a 40 time vet you've seen a lot of crazy things here. you know sadly enough Jack is by far the worst one that I've seen when it comes to this situation but I am working on a video of a guy that lost everything. Sadly Thanks for watching and commenting Cheers Mate
Dr Sabean, Please tell me the shop you recommend for renting a scooter/motorcycle. // Have the rates been spiking in the last several months per inflation woes? // Thanks…
no the rates really haven't been rising on the bikes here except for there are some people that are trying to take advantage of the influx of tourists but there's still all kinds of good deals out there Sea Expert Travel Is the guy that I use for my bikes and I have recommended probably 20 people to him over the past 6 months and everybody is happy with his service 089 874 9343 that's his phone number definitely tell him that you got his contact from me. Hope this helps Cheers Mate 🍺
Start with your channel and a lot of other channels on how these women act, they're turning their attention toward the men from India Take care and god bless
yes right now there's a lot of men from India here and the girls are desperately trying to get money from them but I don't think they're having a lot of success at it. Thanks for watching and commenting
I will be completely honest with you this is about the girls that are giving extras this is not about a woman that has taken a massage class and works in an actual spa and is not into transactional relationships... but for the most part guys are not going there and falling for that type of woman that just gives nothing but a massage because typically they're older they're not attractive and the guy is not getting any sexual thrill from it so he's not going to fall for her.. I hope that answer makes sense Thanks for watching and commenting Cheers Mate 🍺
IVE LIVED MOST OF MY LIFE IN SOUTH EAST ASIA IM 80 NOW AND RETIRED IN VIETNAM (. FOR 7 YEARS ). I MET A VIETNAMESE LADY TODAY WHO WAS MARRIED TO AN ENGLISHMEN , THEY HAD TWO CHILDREN , ONE DAY HE JUST LEFT AND NEVER WENT BACK AS I UNDERSTAND HE'S LIVING IN DENMARK AND DOESN'T GIVE ANY SUPPORT TO HER OR THE TWO KIDS SO IT WOULD SEEM THIS SHIT WORKS BOTH WAYS , AND THE MOTHER STRUGGLES AND THE CHILDREN SOMETIMES GO HUNGRY NOT A NICE TALE EITHER WAY BUT HARDER WHEN IT'S A MATTER OF SEEING YOUR CHILDREN CRY FOR LACK OF FOOD .
One way to find out evrything about any Thai operator is to get her Thai name and her nick name then exchange Line .Run the name on Facebook an bingo you get evrything you did not even dream about....her boyfriend or Tomfoy photos + the entire history...they really stupid because they take you for an idiot and Jack tuned out to be one.
Maybe you have had another video on this topic but Where do you recommend meeting a Thai lady for serious relationship? Seems like if you can't speak Thai it can be very complicated
There are also undercover freelancers that lie about it. They give you the girlfriend experience and expect expensive dinners and their families taken care of as well. They have multiple sponsors in their phones and most have day jobs. These are the hardest to spot.
@@whyhellotherewithdrmarksabean i was a victim of one for my first 2 1/2 months here in Bkk. She was from Isaan as well, works in Bkk Mon-Fri and heads to her home purchased by British ex-hubby on weekends in Pattaya.
Exactly the intel I need f/ Hua Hin, Jomtien & Phuket in January. I'm no savior- looking more to chat up retail babes, hotel staffers, real estate girls, honeys in the mall, etc. The ones in fitness might be bar girls or pro$
@@whyhellotherewithdrmarksabean I'm sure this helped a ton more than just me. The bar thing would tricky f/ me as a non-drinker, but until it gets old- it's not like I'm gonna move across the world & stay in the apartment all night. Tough to see myself bar fining anybody though. But that's easy to say from here in Miami Beach
I have a Thai friend here. I met her boyfriend last year. He don't know she is seeing men here that she meets at work. I feel like shit because she is my friend first. So I just mind my business.
When I was in Phuket in July, I saw a sign in a massage parlor window that said, "No Sex!!" I thought WTF!!! Keep up the good work my friend. I'm going back for a month in November. Zoey & I can't wait to be together again. I'll probably go back for 2 months in February & am thinking about starting to spend the winters there with her.
@@ActiveAussie2024 Zoey & I went to a really nice massage place that she goes to. We paid 1400 baht for a 2 hour Thai hot oil & hot stone massage. Thats about $40 USD!! I told her that those in US would cost about $250.
Hey man I can't wait till you get here hopefully you have the best time possible with Zoey Thanks for watching and supporting my channel man I really appreciate it. Cheers Mate 🍺🍺🍺🍺
This is the only thing you need to keep in mind when it comes to Thai bargirls, massage girls, gogo dancers, freelancers, hookers, prostitutes: How do you know they're telling lies? Their lips are moving.
We have all been had by a thai girl more or less at some point.. But the most important is that we learn from our mistakes :) And yeah I also consider myself a "good guy" but hey... They only use that against ya xD
True story or not it's quite entertaining and each story is a typical car crash, I like car crash stories as I'm here and have been lucky enough to not have been involved in one. I'm not a tight ass but if any girl is gonna make any kind of financial demands, that's the time to cut it off immediately and move on as there's always another one and time to look for something new.
This sadly enough is a true story and it's an absolute train wreck waiting to just completely derail... I'm actually honestly quite worried about the guy because he is so far down the rabbit hole it's insane.. Thanks for watching and commenting Cheers Mate
In German this behaviour of the massage girl is called in German : Sie hat ihn ausgenommen wie eine Weihnachtsgans. Sorry don't t know the exact translation of this Idiom
