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Can you use a $1000 LG OLED as a Grading Monitor with Davinci Resolve? - How to setup and calibrate 

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We go over the strengths and weaknesses of the LG OLED displays as a Reference Grading monitor and show you how to Calibrate and setup in Davinci Resolve for the best performance.
How to install PiGenerator - Raspberry PI based pattern generator
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Items we use is this video are:
LG OLED C2 42" Display
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Calman HOME for LG
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Raspberry Pi 3 starter kit
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8K HDMI Cable
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Davinci Resolve
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Blackmagic Ultra Studio 4k
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Blackmagic UltraStudio Monitor 3G
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Calibrite ColorChecker Display Pro
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Blackmagic Mini Panel for Resolve
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@arthur78
@arthur78 Год назад
9:17 selecting "OLED (RGB)" is wrong here. It should be "* OLED TV (WRGB)" (the last option at the bottom)
@aviationodyssey1892
@aviationodyssey1892 Год назад
I ordered the 65" Panasonic LZ2000 OLED after watching your video! Very informative
@dan8t669
@dan8t669 3 месяца назад
Not sure how the Panasonic screen has anything to do with this
@aviationodyssey1892
@aviationodyssey1892 3 месяца назад
@@dan8t669 learn first
@KarlPfeiffer
@KarlPfeiffer Год назад
This was fantastic, thanks so much for the step-by-step! There's so little out there about HDR calibration, I would LOVE to see a video just like this for HDR too!
@akyhne
@akyhne Год назад
There are guides on Portrait's RU-vid channel. Mostly for LG displays, though.
@smalldeekgeorge
@smalldeekgeorge 9 месяцев назад
LG A series oled tvs are super color accurate out of the box. It maches C series calibrated with spyder calibrator 😊
@RanjanSharma2001
@RanjanSharma2001 10 месяцев назад
Very detailed & extremely useful video, thanks for such a detailed tutorial showing all the steps for setting up.
@liamwhitehouse9428
@liamwhitehouse9428 Год назад
I’ve got this tv and using it as a VFX display. It is so incredibly high performance compared to very expensive LED /LCD monitors. The colours, black levels and instant latency is no comparison to them. It’s so vastly superior it’s not funny. I’m so looking forward to Eizo, Hp and Asus to all have Oled displays for grading in the coming years. This display is only $1100 AUD at the moment which is 1/3 the cost of a grading lcd with a much much better performance and quality. I have an Eizo and Asus pro art LCD displays.
@TempyEdits
@TempyEdits Год назад
How did you go about calibrating the display?
@THEBELLCURVE96
@THEBELLCURVE96 Год назад
Fantastic video. Answered all my questions about using an OLED TV. GREAT JOB! Now to put it to practice...lol I'll reach out to let you know how it goes.
@TylerHansenVideo
@TylerHansenVideo Год назад
Man I really wish there was a way to do this without the Rasperry Pi, Windows, or the expensive Calman software. I'm just going to hire a calibrator.
@DeHavenCamera
@DeHavenCamera 5 месяцев назад
There is now! internal pattern generator is now supported
@akyhne
@akyhne Год назад
I've spend a LOT of time over the past year, to research how to use the Calman Home for Sony. Things are by far clear on their website. For one, they mentions that you can use an Android app, ad pattern generator, but not how - it's via an usb to HDMI adaptor cable, and apparently that's not even close to being accurate. Well, that was my rant. Here comes the interesting part. I can't check this, because 1) It's not described how. 2) I haven't actually bought the software yet. On their web page under the Sony version, it says: "Calman Home for Sony Workflows HDR Manual Calibration Workflow. SDR Manual Calibration Workflow. Meter Profiling Workflow. Monitor Calibration Workflow. Sony Calibration Workflow - supports SDR and HDR (HDR calibration derived from SDR). " The interesting part being" Monitor Calibration Workflow". As I understand it, there's a 3 unit licence, along with the AutoCal software, meaning you can calibrate 3 TVs, then aquire additional licence, if needed. But nowhere, except for this very page, does it say anything about monitor calibration, and there are actually other places, where it says you need the pro solutions, for monitor calibration. Now, I DO have a free calibration solution for my displays, but if I c could use the Calman Home, I sure would. All it takes, us apparently a Client3 PC Single or multiple License, but again, it's frustratingly vague. It says you need a "Client3 Profile Manager (add-on option), but when you do a Google search on" Client3 Profile Manager", you only get links to CalMAN Client3 software.
@FinalLightNL
@FinalLightNL Год назад
i would really wanna see how you do the HDR calibration, i am quite new to this and use the LG internal pattern generator.
@TempyEdits
@TempyEdits Год назад
Any updates on whether LG is still working on a fix for the pattern generator issue?
@AexoeroV
@AexoeroV 9 месяцев назад
What issue?
@dustinclark7159
@dustinclark7159 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for the info. I am looking into getting a Lg Oled A2 monitor for my clean feed along with a sypder calibrator. im on a tight budget. what are your thoughts for this set up for a beginner. Thanks
@jonathanhall5670
@jonathanhall5670 10 месяцев назад
I have the Datacolor SpyderX Pro Color. Do you think this is an acceptable probe to use with this tv for professional color grading?
@osoriony
@osoriony Год назад
Great video! Very thorough and clear. You mentioned the C1 tv's have a pattern creation. Can you explain how to do it?
@DeHavenCamera
@DeHavenCamera Год назад
Just choose your LG TV as the pattern source by entering its IP address. the process is well covered in the Calman LG Home instructions on the LG site
@osoriony
@osoriony Год назад
@@DeHavenCamera Thank you very much
@RajneshDomalpalli
@RajneshDomalpalli 5 месяцев назад
Greetings and Thank you for this tutorial. I have an M1 Macbook Pro, an "X-Rite ColorChecker® Passport Photo 2" and an "UltraStudio Monitor 3G 3G-SDI/HDMI Playback Device". Can I use them to calibrate an LG C3 or C4 using this video as a guide? Thanks again and Regards.
@DeHavenCamera
@DeHavenCamera 5 месяцев назад
Hey, so you can for the most part. I believe with the current LG C3-4 monitors the internal pattern generator is now supported so you can avoid the rasberry pi route and just use the monitor itself. Overall workflow is similar. Calman has a very good how-to and documentation on their site for the LG Home software which walks your through this step by step!
@RajneshDomalpalli
@RajneshDomalpalli 5 месяцев назад
@@DeHavenCameraThank you for your reply. 🌿🌼🌿
@RajneshDomalpalli
@RajneshDomalpalli 5 месяцев назад
🦊🐦🐠Thanks!
@shueibdahir
@shueibdahir 9 месяцев назад
Important question here You said bt.1886 was made for displays that couldn't reproduce real black. I got my OLED calibrated using bt.1886 gamma for SDR. Since Gamma 2.4 was made to reproduce real black, should I instead use Gamma 2.4?
@jan-christophglaser1763
@jan-christophglaser1763 Год назад
Nicely done information. One question though - how would I set up the resolve project on HDR - using the C1? I am unsure, since the C1 with peak brightness on low giving me only 400 something nits. Especially in an ACES workflow. Does this box: “master hdr on 1000 nits” checkbox does anything? How would you guys tackle this? Cheers Christoph.
@andripeetso
@andripeetso 8 месяцев назад
How different is this process with a blackmagic ultrastudio 3g? My tech stack would be a C2 + Mac Studio + UltraStudio 3G + X-Rite i1Basic PRO 3
@constantinosschinas4503
@constantinosschinas4503 10 месяцев назад
The distance between grading and normal monitors has become small enough through the years and advances in mainstream technology. This is not 2005 and even a TV can prove better than most "graders".
@TheKjlongtine
@TheKjlongtine Год назад
I see that this model OLED42C2PUA is discontinued and being replaced by OLED42C3PUA I believe. But, B&H does not yet have them in stock. Best Buy does still have the C2 for $899. B&H is taking pre-orders for the C3 for $1,296. Is the new C3 version worth the extra cost and the wait or is juts features not pertaining to color grading/edit display? Thanks
@taylorhoos4464
@taylorhoos4464 Год назад
Does anyone know if the C2 internal pattern generator works with calman now? It sounded like they were trying to fix it with an update but I can't find any information on it.
@travislrogers
@travislrogers Год назад
Seems that it’s working now after the June 2023 Calman update
@hugosoareslightbox7464
@hugosoareslightbox7464 Год назад
Great great video!
@DeHavenCamera
@DeHavenCamera 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for watching
@ShortboyKennel
@ShortboyKennel 2 месяца назад
I bought the new LG 45GR95QE - B monitor when it first dropped to edit with. Could I get some decent results using it to color grade I know it uses DCI-P3 at 98.5% coverage . I don’t have a red camera or anything yet but I just started off using this R6 mark 2 uses cinema gamut with log 3 . I was wanting to get the R1 but hadn’t came out yet and I knew if I would have got the R3 as soon as I bought it they would have dropped the R1 lol. I’m not looking to get into major motion pictures but I would like to be able to produce some of the best American Bully cinematic videos . As well as do projects for clients one day. Just curious what your thoughts are being that my monitor is not the most expensive neither . I do like it though first 45 inch 240hz oled ever
@zgold1118
@zgold1118 Год назад
Curious about hdr, I have a C1 and it works great for my client monitor, but as I slowly integrate into hdr I have a few questions about settings. For my mac, there’s a display setting for hdr when hdr display is detected. For SDR I leave it off, but for HDR should I be turning that display setting on to force the lg in hdr mode for HDR grading? Then in regards to my LG oled settings in HDR, there’s tone mapping. Should I be turning that off for grading?
@vivamoment
@vivamoment 2 месяца назад
Great Video! Thank you! Is there a reason not to use the "Calibrate Profiler" software which comes with the (X-Rite) Display Pro colorimeter instead of purchasing the Calman software? Both will be using the same colorimeter. Note that I'm a novice thinking of getting an LG C3 or C4 to use as my computer monitor so that I can use Davinci Resolve for editing and colour grading etc, and I already have the Calibrate (X-Rite) Display Pro colorimeter.
@JaymesMedia
@JaymesMedia Месяц назад
Calibrite uses the computer color science to calibrate your monitor. With Calman you can bypass your computer color science and only calibrate the monitor.
@vivamoment
@vivamoment Месяц назад
@@JaymesMedia Thanks for your reply. But my question is whether I would use Calman to calibrate my "computer monitor so that I can use Davinci Resolve for editing and colour grading etc"? I realise that you are calibrating the monitor to be a reference monitor, however for me the 42" screen is perfect for doing video editing with Davinci Resolve on it, but I also want it to be used for colour work. Your thoughts? And thanks in advance.
@hi1mham
@hi1mham Год назад
for LG monitors (ie 27EQ950 and 27EQ850) will process be same and will the LG home package still work? Or is this designed explicitly for TVs?
@robspence3287
@robspence3287 7 месяцев назад
I tried 9 points and got an average color performance of .4, but it took 45 minutes, so there is a trade-off.
@TwaynePereira
@TwaynePereira Год назад
Thank you so much for this information. This video cleared up all my questions about calibration. I've been using DisplayCal with my x-rite, any thoughts about that in terms of accuracy or best practices? Though, I do think in the future I'll have someone professionally calibrate with Calman. It would be nice to have a cheaper version for consumers for non-TV screens so I can use the Raspberry PI method. I'm on an Eizo which has been fantastic. I do think you're right though, you don't need a BVM or something similar, but it's crazy that there are displays that cost more than my car. I maybe wrong, because I'm new to this, but it seems like displays haven't "democratized" as fast as other gear in the industry (cams, lighting, etc).
@DeHavenCamera
@DeHavenCamera Год назад
Hi Twayne, glad it was helpful. So a few things, while DisplayCal is a fantastic tool its sadly no longer being developed and has some major short comings with many configurations, and with LG in specific. Calman has created apps for most major consumer displays like Sony and LG for a very affordable rate. That being said many would agree the jump to $2k for a full verison is steep. As for the BVM, full disclosure.. I have the BVM in our suites and we use them. They are the gold standard and many clients, like Netflix, require them. Ultimately there is a difference, full stop, Sony gets the top pick for the best and most uniform panels that come from the manufacturer, the X310 is an instrument, not a monitor, its a reference display and you are paying for that QC process, accuracy, consistancy and uniformity. But for most media being created it can be done on an LG C2, or a variety of other non critical displays for less cost. All solutions have a plus and minus and its what compromise you are willing to live with. The Sony BVM you are paying for basically no compromise (though there are some there as well)
@TwaynePereira
@TwaynePereira Год назад
@@DeHavenCamera Cheers! thanks for the insights. And great perspective, it's a instrument and not a monitor!
@EL_N0IR_2201
@EL_N0IR_2201 Год назад
@@DeHavenCamera wait what? No more support for lg c2? I just purchased it to color in davinci studio 18, h.2.6.4 10 bit cannon log 3 footage 4K, so what should I do now? Could you point me in the right direction please.
@wdigivideo
@wdigivideo Год назад
@@EL_N0IR_2201 Not sure what you mean by no more support? Its a monitor and will always still display images calibrated or not.. In regards specifically to color calibration you just need to use an external pattern generator. Watch the video and follwo the links in the description and this will detail the entire process..
@EL_N0IR_2201
@EL_N0IR_2201 Год назад
@@wdigivideo hold on let me explain, I cant find were in the video but you said they stopped developing the app software for the lg series monitors did you not? that's what i meant to ask, sorry for the confusion Eric. I've been watching the video carefully but that part were you said the software might be inaccurate due too it not being worked on kind worries me. should I be worried?
@HikingWithCooper
@HikingWithCooper 10 месяцев назад
Does this video explain EVERYTHING that is needed for grading on an LG? I've watched tons of these videos and have ruined myself financially chasing the rabbit. Bought the TV. Bought the calibrator. Ready to buy the calibrating software. Bought the DeckLink and external pci-e box. But what about the LUT box that you HAVE to have? A cheap one is $1,600. What about the pattern generator that you HAVE to have? I haven't even priced those yet. Does this video tell the whole truth or is it just another "Buy an LG and wow, it'll be amazing" video?
@taylorhtrozzolo6552
@taylorhtrozzolo6552 Год назад
could I use calman to build a lut for a monitor that isn't LG and can't make it's own luts? I'm wondering if I could use calman to read a monitor (like LG pro art), use it to build a lut, then load that lut into davinci or another monitor LUT device offered by black magic? Obv I would need to make a pattern generator too for the monitor, but in theory is this possible? any advice would be greatly appreciated!
@dineshfilms566
@dineshfilms566 2 месяца назад
Pls say this Along side lgcx oled hdr tv as secondary display to benq pd 2706u hdr Sri 99% and wide colour gamut monitor Can we get Hollywood range colours to my theater movie pls say
@gerrypi51
@gerrypi51 Год назад
Is the ASUS ROG Swift OLED PG42UQ recommended for DaVinci? HDR 10, 120Hz, latency 0.1 sec, contrast 135000:1, G-Sync for GPU NVidia RTX 4090. Is there a risk of burn-in with static image parts in the color grading area of ​​DaVinci Resolve?
@akyhne
@akyhne Год назад
You should not use the GPU output for your display, if you are serious about color accuracy. That's why you need one of those boxes (DeckLink), mentioned in the start of the video. About the screen... Who knows. I tend to believe that color grading displays are more accurate, are more stable (doesn't need to be calibrated as often, as consumer displays), and has a better (larger) support for pro color spaces, like DCI-P3, Adobe RGB, Rec2020 etc.
@salikw
@salikw Год назад
Hi, thanks for the video mate! Also, do you recommend turning of TSP and GSR from the service before calibration?
@zacharydehart5597
@zacharydehart5597 Год назад
Could you explain the difference between video and full range in depth and how that applies in resolve?
@akyhne
@akyhne Год назад
I believe the standard for tv, has always been 16-235 colors, while for monitors it's 0-255. But the Rec.709 standard also says 16-235. From Wikipedia: Rec. 709 defines an R’G’B’ encoding and a Y’CBCR encoding, each with either 8 bits or 10 bits per sample in each color channel. In the 8-bit encoding the R’, B’, G’, and Y’ channels have a nominal range of [16..235], and the CB and CR channels have a nominal range of [16..240] with 128 as the neutral value. So in limited range R’G’B’ reference black is (16, 16, 16) and reference white is (235, 235, 235), and in Y’CBCR reference black is (16, 128, 128) and reference white is (235, 128, 128).
@pedalandypedal
@pedalandypedal 6 месяцев назад
Is it possible to calibrate without the ultrastudio? Will be a little bit before I can get one.
@chadron44
@chadron44 Год назад
I'm new to this whole advanced color workflow world and trying to build out a decent grading setup. About to buy a "42 C2 and Blackmagic Decklink 4k PCIe card. I already own a Datacolor Sypder X Pro. Would that work with the Calman software or do I need to get a Calibrite ColorChecker? Great video, thanks!
@DeHavenCamera
@DeHavenCamera Год назад
I believe the Datacolor does work as it is on the approved list. You can always check the Calman LG home website as they list all the approved Measurement Devices
@chadron44
@chadron44 Год назад
@@DeHavenCamera Thanks! I'll double check the approved list.
@TempyEdits
@TempyEdits Год назад
Any updates since then? I was thinking of buying the exact same setup. Hope everything's going well 👍
@chadron44
@chadron44 Год назад
@@TempyEdits So far, I have the LG C2 and the Black Magic Decklink Mini 4k Monitor set up. The TV itself is fantastic. The clean feed from Davinci Resolve via the Decklink is definitely much different than the output from my GPU. The colors feel much more natural right out of the box. I have not calibrated with Calman yet, but that is the next step. The Raspberry Pi is ordered and in the mail. Raspberry Pis seem to be sold out everywhere and you have to pay a premium for the Model 4. I am going to use the Datacolor Spyder X Pro to start and then probably sell it on Ebay and upgrade to the Calbrite.
@TempyEdits
@TempyEdits Год назад
@chadron44 Thank you so much for the update, that was very helpful and informative 🙏🙏 I'm probably going to do the exact same setup/workflow.
@isaacspedding5032
@isaacspedding5032 Год назад
1.1 to 2.4 on the colour weow.
@LonzosStudios
@LonzosStudios 8 месяцев назад
I use BenQ SW32, any thoughts on that model?
@TQ-Graphics
@TQ-Graphics 9 месяцев назад
Do you need a second monitor for this setup to work, or can this be done with only the LG TV?
@JaymesMedia
@JaymesMedia Месяц назад
Your LG should be used for a clean feed only. You’ll need another monitor to use as your daily driver and resolve interface
@shashikantt
@shashikantt Год назад
can you share the data you got after calibration
@Astor_1
@Astor_1 Год назад
Hello Sir, thank you for your post. Do you know if the Raspberry pi is still needed?
@akyhne
@akyhne Год назад
There are other options. The inexpensive one, is the SpectraCal MobileForge Pattern Generator, which is an app for your smartphone. It's free, and you then connect your phone to your TV, with an USB to HDMI cable. Some say you can also connect the PC with the Calman Home software, to the display, and open a pattern window, that you then drag onto the TV. But both these methods are said to be inaccurate.
@DeHavenCamera
@DeHavenCamera 11 месяцев назад
Mobile Forge is a great option and great suggestion, just be aware that both AppleTV and FireTV are sending limited range signals.. As for connecting as a PC this is not suggested as the PC itself is doing colormanagement which will skew the results.
@johnwaldmann5222
@johnwaldmann5222 Год назад
Which version of Calman home for LG did you use? I downloaded Calman Home for LG 2022 R3 Version: 5.13.2 five days ago, and SDR calibration fails due to Aurora engine not completing LUT builds, or other issues -always after reading the patch set so wasting hours/days of repeated efforts to calibrate. So far the only improvement to my C2 calibration was the result of my second full C2 factory reset -excepting cinema mode is now unusable for any purpose other than playing tik-tak-toe.
@wdigivideo
@wdigivideo Год назад
What are you using for you patch generator? As noted the C2 series currently does not support internal patch generation so if you connect your LG as the generator you will get these errors. You have to use external generator like pgen like I show, or hardware or software video forge. Also make sure you are using most recent version of lg Home and your tv is up to date
@wdigivideo
@wdigivideo Год назад
Lastly don’t hesitate to contact calman they are very helpful in these instances
@johnwaldmann5222
@johnwaldmann5222 Год назад
@@wdigivideo llatest version of Calman LG as mentioned above, updated by Portrait studios 1Dec 2022, does support LG internal patch generation on the C2. The problem appears to be internal to the Calman airora software engine. I plan to try again after Christmass, using Resolve patches, usimg your method. but the issue seems to be the Software itself hangs, rather than a misread of the patches.
@wdigivideo
@wdigivideo Год назад
@@johnwaldmann5222 So to be clear I am not a representitive of Calman. So when having issues its always best to contact the software manufacturer. However I can point out a few things. If you look in the release notes for ALL versions of calman (studio, pro and home) back to early 2022 it clearly states under known issues "2022 LG (all models) - internal patterns are not currently supported" so if you are using a C2 OLED it will fail. I went through this issue and it would hang the software or cause very unstable use when I tried to use the internal generator on the LG. On LG C1 series no problems. If you have the full studio version then you can use Resolve to generate patches (not supported in HOME) or you can use the video forge software for $500. In my video we are using the Raspberry as the most cost effective patch generator and this has worked very reliably. I have tested this against using my video forge hardware generator and I get similar or same results. Good luck
@hdtv00
@hdtv00 Год назад
There is still a bug not resolved you can't properly calibrate a c2 using this method until Calman fixes the issue.
@dineshfilms566
@dineshfilms566 Год назад
Can we use Samsung m7 43 inch 4k monitor for professional movie Color grading wotks
@constantinosschinas4503
@constantinosschinas4503 10 месяцев назад
The simple answer is yes. It takes years of expertise and tons of reading and testing to know what a color workflow is and how to properly use it, (in grading or calibration) anyway. With monitors that do not support hardware (internal) calibration profiles, prefer less aggressive calibrations, to avoid banding. People hunt good monitors and calibrations, without even knowing the basics of what a color workflow is, how we shoot and use LUTS and so on. In my professional experience, 99% of "graders" do not know what grading is or what calibration is. Which at the end means... it doesn't really matter.
@AexoeroV
@AexoeroV 9 месяцев назад
9:19 but the lg OLEDs are not RGB OLEDs
@JuliusConway
@JuliusConway Год назад
I literally just bought the Calman home for LG AFTER seeing this video. and I have the LG C2 Evo. They need to give me a refund since it doesn't work. but on the website it says it does. I keep getting an error mid 1D calibration
@wdigivideo
@wdigivideo Год назад
Hi Julius, it does work but you cannot use the internal pattern generator as I noted. This is why it crashes. You’ll need an external generator like we show in the video. It does work with any LG C2 series of any size as we have the 42”, but also 55,65, and 75 in our facility and I calibrate them often. Calman is also very helpful so reach out if you get stuck
@JuliusConway
@JuliusConway Год назад
@@wdigivideo as I was replying to you. I re ran it again. And it worked. Took 30 mins but it work 🏆
@mrhevi
@mrhevi Год назад
@@JuliusConway Did you use the internal pattern generator or how did you get it to work? I'm having some issues myself.
@AnthonyRodriguezz
@AnthonyRodriguezz Год назад
I heard there was an update for lg monitors that allowed for a pattern generator in the c2 models! Is this true?
@wdigivideo
@wdigivideo Год назад
@@AnthonyRodriguezz according to the release notes from the latest Calman LG Home (dec 20th) it is still not supported. however its possible that a software release on the LG side has fixed the issue and it has not made it to the new Calman release yet.. I would check with Calman support to see if they have an update
@RastaHenkie
@RastaHenkie Год назад
If you use the Ultrastudio Monitor 3G you can only color grade on 1080p 60?
@martinfox4569
@martinfox4569 11 месяцев назад
I have the mini, you can monitor in HD and render out a 4K- not ideal but a work around
@RastaHenkie
@RastaHenkie 11 месяцев назад
@@martinfox4569 ok thanks. I'm still not sure if I'll to the work around way or invest in a enclosure.
@DeHavenCamera
@DeHavenCamera 11 месяцев назад
In many cases most of us at larger studios do actually monitor in 1080p depending on the config of the room we are using. I usually use 1080 for realtime playback and client supervised situations where I need speed and interactivitiy then review and QC in 4k
@WRNFILM
@WRNFILM Год назад
Would y’all ever create a calibration rental package?
@wdigivideo
@wdigivideo Год назад
Not sure, that’s a possibility. The thing would be is we’d have to rent you a laptop as the calman license can’t be transferred. So it might be a pricey rental, but I’ll def consider it
@WRNFILM
@WRNFILM Год назад
@@wdigivideo I’d be open to it!
@Ag89q43G0HyA
@Ag89q43G0HyA Год назад
why not use the whole values? what is the problem? i dont get. if you have a 100w of audio use the whole 100 not 85.
@akyhne
@akyhne Год назад
Because it's the standard of SDR and Rec.709...
@mpeg2000
@mpeg2000 Год назад
If you export for online, how do you avoid the gamma shift? thx
@DeHavenCamera
@DeHavenCamera 11 месяцев назад
This is a bit of a deeper topic, and not really relivant to the calibration of your monitor. However if you want more info you should look up colorspace tagging, quicktime ATOM, and what formats support these funcitons. The basic answer is that you need to make sure that your entire pipeline, monitor, applicaiton, output format etc all are setup in the same format. Example is your monitor is calibrated to rec709 gamma 2.2 in video range (limited) then your applicaiton needs to be set to this as well, and when you render you need to be sure that both your applicaiton and your output format support colorspace tagging. Resolve does this and as long as you setup your project correctly these settings will be included in the metadata and thus will playback without any gamma shift. In most cases this is not a gamma shift issue but a Full vs video range issue..
Год назад
is there another way to calibrate a lg oled using macos? calman home is only for windows
@wdigivideo
@wdigivideo Год назад
Not reliably, and easy. But calman is supported in boot camp so just spin up a windows install and off you go
@toxotis70
@toxotis70 Год назад
@@wdigivideoyou cannot use boot camp anymore on modern Mac’s!
@wdigivideo
@wdigivideo Год назад
@@toxotis70 on M chip mac's you are correct.. That is unfortunate for those that do not have access to a PC.. Maybe Calman will make an OSX version but I doubt it.
@Kfal620
@Kfal620 5 месяцев назад
Shouldn't this be OLED (WRGB) not OLED (RGB)? That's wrong
@theelephantroomltdnetwork
@theelephantroomltdnetwork 3 месяца назад
update
@foundvhs
@foundvhs Год назад
I thought these LG's were calibrated and ready to go out of the box.
@akyhne
@akyhne Год назад
No tv is properly calibrated. What they do, is calibrating one unit, then transfer the same profile, to all models. In other words - no they do not spend 45 minutes to calibrate each TV in the factory. Besides, calibration is AT LEAST a yearly task, and for professionals way more often, than that. All TVs goes out of whack with time. No matter the price.
@lllXavierllll
@lllXavierllll Год назад
You made a catastrophic mistake: For LG panels, you need to select OLED WRGB, not RGB. Also, unless you are using a high quality certified colorimeter (like the C6) you really need a spectrophotometer to profile your colorimeter, otherwise the calibration is pointless.
@DeHavenCamera
@DeHavenCamera Год назад
Hi Xavier, thanks for your feedback. Lets put things in perspective. We are talking about a sub $1000 consumer monitor for use with a bascially free grading tool, so it might be a bit overkill to use a $800 C6 to calibrate. As well keeping in mind we are using a homebrew RaspberryPi for our pattern source and not a $1500 videoforge pro so there is inherent minor innacuracy there as well. What we are trying to do is give an average home user the ability to have a monitor that visually shows accurate color. Not all grading enviroments are scientifically correct, a great many do not even calibrate so this is a step better and an intro into this world and workflow. In testing we have checked this process against the results of using full license Calman with a Colorimetry Research CR-250-RH Spectrometer and have checked it against our calibration results on our Sony BVM-X310 and the results are well within an acceptable tollerance. Basically they visually match. In regards to the WRGB and RGB setting I have not seen major differences in calibration results with either setting, and RGB is the calman default. However I agree that this setting could produce more accurate results all things being equal and I encorage others to test and try on their own. Ultimately color is a creative process, and perceptual. Since we do not grade in a lab, and most watching this are not learning to calibrate a $200m studio we feel this can get many users a great start at working in a more accurate enviroment. Thanks again for your feedback and input!
@hdtv00
@hdtv00 Год назад
@@DeHavenCamera He's right on both counts. But for sure according to the guru's at AVSforum you want to pick RAW XYZ. And it's just facts that unless you have a Spectrophotometer it isn't really accurate. I don't have one either just same colorimeter as you but I just want to point it out to let people be informed.
@wdigivideo
@wdigivideo Год назад
@@hdtv00 ok so maybe you missed it in the reply above. I own a $9000 Colorimetry Research CR-250-RH Spectrometer as well as the Sony X310 $45k refererence monitor and I have verified my results with and against them both. While minor inacuracies do exist (the panel being the biggest culprit), we are talking about a $1000 monitor and a few hundred in parts and software for a colorist working independently to be able to have a relatively accurate grading monitor. As noted changing the settings from RGB to WRGB does make a small difference so that can be bettered from my walkthrough. I can verify however that even with the CR-250 and a video forge pro the LG will not get any more accurate with those devices in use. Its a consumer TV. Furthermore, why would anyone not working in a large scale pro enviroment (where a video engineer is present anyway) cailbrate a $1000 consumer TV with a $14,000 setup of meter and software? If you are going to spend that money you are going to by a Sony X310.. At any rate, we are not talking a labratory we are talking perceptual creative color grading for users working on a budget.. So while the comments are appreciated with all due respect its off topic and better saved for the never ending debates in the AVS forum or LGG forum. And I love the debate so DM me and we can disucss further and I can share results!
@XxmattitudexX
@XxmattitudexX Год назад
@@wdigivideo would it be possible to get usable results with display cal in resolve on this lg or other consumer tv ? if not as good as what your proposing as an extreme budget setup would it be better then nothing ?
@wdigivideo
@wdigivideo Год назад
@@XxmattitudexX as displaycal is no longer technically supported application that I know of (I think the developer stopped updating it a while back if I’m correct) and as it does not directly update the internal LUT on the LG (again that I’m aware of) I’d say it’s not ideal at all. As with anything I’m sure there is a hack or work around but most likely you would give up accuracy. By using displaycal you’d only be saving on the $150 license for calman and the raspberry which you can get very cheap on eBay if you look hard enough. So I’d say stick with calman
@landonp629
@landonp629 Год назад
None of this is very cheap. $1,000 monitor is okay, but the CalMan software runs $2,000 by itself.
@mrshaheedmalik
@mrshaheedmalik Год назад
The Calman software is $145.
@DeHavenCamera
@DeHavenCamera 11 месяцев назад
Yes the full verison, however in this example I am purposely using the LG home version which is $145
@peacevillow3033
@peacevillow3033 Год назад
A TV set can’t be a reference monitor. At best it can only be a client’s monitor. Saying it can be use as a reference monitor after calibration is very misleading. Reference monitor is the highest quality of a broadcast monitor, even Sony never sell PVM series as a reference monitor and PVM series is much better quality than a TV set.
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