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Can You Weld TIG and MIG at the Same Time? 

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Have you ever heard of the technology that combines TIG and MIG welding? is it posible to weld MIG and TIG at the same time? Well today we are finding out. We got a Tip Tig machine in the Weldtube shop and we are going to put this TIG/MIG hybrid to the test, stand by.
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@weldtube
@weldtube Год назад
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@alexguigui8231
@alexguigui8231 3 года назад
As a professional welder myself, I wouldn't recommand to learn this way. Don't get me wrong, that TIG is impressive. It has MAJOR drawbacks though. One, welding from this position on a rotating tube, forget it. Unless you work in a factory, but on the field, yeah no. Tubes are sometimes so close to the wall, that beak ain't going through. Second, doing the filling like that is very pretty and all, but not time efficient. You're mostely going to use electrodes for it. The root with TIG remains since it's easy to control, allows for a nice low amp setting. But for filling, most of the time you're gonna use electrodes. Or MAG with cored wire if you're outside and your company has some money to spare on the machine. Third, and I would definitely recommand this, learn to weld from the very bottom to the very top, doing the tube in halves. Your going to have to switch your hand doing the other side. More difficult to manage your weld but learning this way made me a much better welder. Remember you'll always have to adapt to your workplace, and welding in tiny places, sometimes with a mirror is going to be required, depending where you work of course. Also remember, you might have to fill the inside of the tube with some inert gas for stainless tubes. But nice job, beautiful weld here! Took me a while to get some of those right ^^
@johnsellers2999
@johnsellers2999 2 года назад
Alex I'm with you. He did a very nice job. But at this point in my life I'm gonna stick to traditional crap. Where I work everything needs to get done as fast as possible.
@alexguigui8231
@alexguigui8231 2 года назад
@@johnsellers2999 Productivity is crucial in many companies, unfortunately. That being said, some companies have to work on what I call "beauty" pieces, so you can take your time, not to mention nuclear power plants or industrial agriculture where you have to follow a certain MO and have all your welds checked with radios and whatnot. But for most of my welding career, the motto was always "Crank the amps up, do it faster. If it looks bad, just grind and polish the crap out of it."
@harryodum5598
@harryodum5598 2 года назад
I been a pipe welder for 55 years power house mostly. And I thought the same thing. In a fab shop on a positioned it would kick out inches. But welding boiler tube no.I GUESS I'm old school 1/8 rod 1/8 gap and1/8 tungsten. .AND coming off the bottom of a 6" wall Hot Weld at 600 degrees it would not be worthwhile.
@antoniocampanelli2340
@antoniocampanelli2340 Год назад
Alex Guigui dici che questo impianto TipTig non è veloce se viene impiegato in magazzino su rullo rotante ? È più produttivo saldare in tig tradizionale rispetto al TipTig?
@giuseppecirignotta8292
@giuseppecirignotta8292 6 месяцев назад
In officina su banco va benissimo. Questa macchina può essere utili per i principali
@hatemymailbox
@hatemymailbox 3 года назад
worked 6 months on the very machine: - headpiece is skethy af while welding on high amperages gets unwinded on its own, you will adjust it pretty often, for that you have to carry small ass allen wrench that gets constantly lost - inside the suitcase the oscillating mechanism in resting on single linear bearing with aluminium body and when the sliding tube btw mechanism and torch sleeve gats jammed, oscillating mechanism teard threads inside linear bearing derailing itself, and BAM you`re in for service - try wiggling that torch 5-10 hours
@wavypt1981
@wavypt1981 3 года назад
Soooo satisfying. The quality in the shots are amazing!
@businessdougla6409
@businessdougla6409 3 года назад
Its new and i'm excited to try it myself.Great job guys.All your vids has been imformative and it helps alot so keep it up.Shouting you guys out from trinidad in the caribbean.
@shaunjay6040
@shaunjay6040 3 года назад
These were some incredible arch shots.
@My.name.goes.here.
@My.name.goes.here. 3 года назад
As a guy who mig weds every day but really wants to be a tig welder I really really like this setup.
@genoory5090
@genoory5090 2 года назад
Really seeing it first hand versus hearing about it was hard to believe? A hell of game changer!
@VashVenture
@VashVenture 3 года назад
Thanks for the content! Always learn so much when I watch your videos!
@kampuhweldingindonesia
@kampuhweldingindonesia 3 года назад
continue without stopping as hard as your hands as long as you don't get tired ... awesome hybrid
@robloxmaniacdanceandshake7871
@robloxmaniacdanceandshake7871 3 года назад
That is really super interesting... Kool product for sure.. And, absolutely superb camera shots...
@christos3621
@christos3621 3 года назад
Hello colleague . Few people know this technique. I happened to find out about it shortly before I retired. From the city of Thessaloniki with love. HELLAS
@WELDERMADEHEADBANDS
@WELDERMADEHEADBANDS 3 года назад
Never seen nothing like this! Great video 💯💯👊🏽🦅
@seanmanwill2002
@seanmanwill2002 3 года назад
Excellent video Hand! Excellent photography!
@kensnyder9372
@kensnyder9372 3 года назад
Good weld , enjoyed watching . Neat stuff for sure.!!!!!!!!!!1
@tommymchone5403
@tommymchone5403 3 года назад
That is one awesome machine. That would be so fun to use.
@tanataotengahere5978
@tanataotengahere5978 3 года назад
Gee-wizz.., i wouldn't mind using that modified tig hand-piece with auto.wire feed..nice.."simplicity"/ mods @ it's best.. natural technique. awesome presento video 👍🤙☀️
@BowkerAero
@BowkerAero 3 года назад
Fantastic arc shots!
@williamdavis922
@williamdavis922 3 года назад
Excellent video fellas!!
@davids3181
@davids3181 3 года назад
What an awesome vid.. Well done matey...
@mohammedzaman8977
@mohammedzaman8977 3 года назад
Yeah man big up from london .first time watching you. Am learnt mag /mig welding .arc stick welding and some tig . Basic course but am getting there good
@anibalbermudezramos9319
@anibalbermudezramos9319 3 года назад
muy durisimo gracias, nunca habia visto esta combinacion tan buena.
@j.d.m.6512
@j.d.m.6512 3 года назад
Excelente clase maestro trabaja chingon de amadre profecional saludos desde Chicago il 🇲🇽
@MehediHasan-he8ry
@MehediHasan-he8ry 3 года назад
wow what a amazing job you done ! I first time saw like that ! good job bro. I appreciate bro.
@TimothyDyck
@TimothyDyck 2 года назад
Thats sweet! Thanks for the vid!
@sonictheflexhog6075
@sonictheflexhog6075 Год назад
Perfect, I just took one of these from the first aid kit at work, and had no idea what I was looking at when I busted it open. Hahah.
@fqf7878
@fqf7878 3 года назад
Respect from Russia👍🏼 you cool man!
@fqf7878
@fqf7878 3 года назад
Look Igor negoda, you like!✋👌
@timebert6141
@timebert6141 3 года назад
I would love to try that equipment out!
@alanhare518
@alanhare518 2 года назад
I just got asked about this process today bro,didnt know anything about it ,until now !!!!!!!!🍻
@daveosland3199
@daveosland3199 3 года назад
a couple of questions, please- 75/25 or 100% argon? 3/32 0r 1/8" tungsten??? whats the machine cost! Thanks- Great Video! Dave
@kf8575
@kf8575 3 года назад
Still 100% argon, its only feeding in filler👍
@swell07_
@swell07_ 3 года назад
you really asking what a miller dynasty cost?
@napatora
@napatora 3 года назад
@@swell07_ the tip tig is a separate machine
@yourdrummer2034
@yourdrummer2034 3 года назад
Excellent video!
@estilohumildevlogs90obs88
@estilohumildevlogs90obs88 2 года назад
Trabajo de calidad 🙏🏻🔥saludos de eagle pass tx
@garyskowbo3564
@garyskowbo3564 3 года назад
So I’m curious how much shielding gas did you use to complete a weld like this? Educated guess on cubic feet is all I’m looking for. Thanks for sharing another great video with us.👍😎
@wasimedoo1506
@wasimedoo1506 3 года назад
Nice equipment very good work
@judetyesudas4820
@judetyesudas4820 2 года назад
damnnn, this is sick, loved the video
@danalvinmarayag3366
@danalvinmarayag3366 2 года назад
Wow a great innovation in tig welding process, make a job well done and convenient..
@dieselguy62
@dieselguy62 3 года назад
We've always called it "hot wire TIG". Good friend of mine here in Houston, developed and leased machines that done the root pass using this, from the inside of a pipe, using a remote controlled welding device. Crazy setup. No idea what happened to the technology when he passed a few years ago.
@kensnyder9372
@kensnyder9372 3 года назад
That is what happens WE old guys take are stuff with us ...HaHa...............
@mathewmolk2089
@mathewmolk2089 3 года назад
Actually its COLD WIRE ADDITION. We were doing that 40 years ago. . Nothing new here. ,,,,, And I quit watching this vid after less then a minute. - This guy needs to drop poorly done Macho-MAn Randy Savage imitation. OHH YEAAAA
@dieselguy62
@dieselguy62 3 года назад
@@mathewmolk2089 I'm just telling you what we always called it. And what the man who designed and built the automated machine to do it, called it. You call it what you want, I'll call it what I want.
@kf8575
@kf8575 2 года назад
@@dieselguy62 hot wire has a current going through the wire, giving more penetration. Cold wire simply feeds the wire. Thats the difference between them👍
@dieselguy62
@dieselguy62 2 года назад
@@kf8575 all depends where you're from and who you're talking to. I'm gonna go with what the guy who developed the machines calls it
@leado3579
@leado3579 3 года назад
I would love to use this
@savidvaldelud3967
@savidvaldelud3967 2 года назад
Congratulations this class was very cool here in Brazil👋👋👋👍👍👍👍
@michaelshortridge6379
@michaelshortridge6379 3 года назад
Pretty slick tig rig.
@Wegui_weg
@Wegui_weg 3 года назад
Magnifique ! Good job ! Big UP de France 🦾
@HamidKhan_206
@HamidKhan_206 3 года назад
Amazing sir.. First time i have seen
@godwillakuphe3387
@godwillakuphe3387 3 года назад
Great video, amazing technology. But I have a feeling that the torch may be very stiff to wave with.
@fronzvlog7526
@fronzvlog7526 2 года назад
Ono verry nice good job brod
@thomasmcnicholas8656
@thomasmcnicholas8656 Год назад
Tip Tig has been around for along time …… developed in the US but never took off…… widely used in Europe for years and within the last 10 yrs making a big come back in the states……. Have trained and run this process…… works great on stainless too !! Literally 1 pass on sch 10
@MrAlito27
@MrAlito27 3 года назад
INSANE VIDEO !!!
@joseluisampuero8934
@joseluisampuero8934 3 года назад
Great work, best regards
@sergiooterorubio7969
@sergiooterorubio7969 3 года назад
I realy like these idea
@wtf3633
@wtf3633 3 года назад
best arc shot
@victornaranjo4866
@victornaranjo4866 3 года назад
Nice job bro
@Sarifsales
@Sarifsales 9 месяцев назад
Its undoubtedly the future of Tig welding for sure once its enhanced a little more
@golonghorns9635
@golonghorns9635 3 года назад
So if your just doing straight tig can it be a 16th below flush as well?
@joemarwinbalantarodriguez9920
@joemarwinbalantarodriguez9920 3 года назад
Woww thats increíble 🤩❤️ congratulations
@werewolfwelding
@werewolfwelding 2 года назад
What you have done amounts to a hot wire fed tig. May I ask what you have your voltage set at on the mig? Or is this just a cold wire feeder?
@WELDEROFMASTER
@WELDEROFMASTER 3 года назад
Very good brother 👍👍
@ronaldcarrera385
@ronaldcarrera385 3 года назад
Genial gracias por compartir 👌😊
@vstrom9586
@vstrom9586 3 года назад
good for production work
@petermccuskey1832
@petermccuskey1832 3 года назад
Slick would like to try this process
@JoseLuisCiriacoDurand
@JoseLuisCiriacoDurand 3 года назад
Crack capo saludos desde Buenos Aires Argentina
@wasimedoo7994
@wasimedoo7994 2 года назад
Very nice welding bro keep it up God bless
@mikefox5537
@mikefox5537 3 года назад
Nice layer🤝👍
@heresteven
@heresteven 3 года назад
looks awesome. bosses would never let me buy one.
@chaseclark4749
@chaseclark4749 3 года назад
How I’m actually surprised it worked as well as it did
@stevepereira8898
@stevepereira8898 3 года назад
Nice video, clean weld no bbs
@loseyourlife4042
@loseyourlife4042 3 года назад
Pretty slick
@amielsombra9590
@amielsombra9590 3 года назад
Soldar assim rodando no suporte é super fácil, quero ver fazer uma solda perfeita assim em campo, lá na obra onde tudo acontece e você tem que soldar o tubo na posição que ele se encontra sem poder girar.
@CallofDoobie585
@CallofDoobie585 3 года назад
I like this!
@jammybd652
@jammybd652 3 года назад
👍👍👍 fast time see like that
@dinasilvaamaral9219
@dinasilvaamaral9219 3 года назад
Top de mais meu amigo vc tá de parabéns quando fica uma máquina dessa ai
@karmansentana5579
@karmansentana5579 3 года назад
Wow amazing...👍🏻
@effendisitanggang7805
@effendisitanggang7805 3 года назад
Bravo Tip Tig Welding
@donfraga6757
@donfraga6757 3 года назад
Muito bom !
@madcapmagician6018
@madcapmagician6018 3 года назад
would love to see this on aluminum😁👍
@thomasmcnicholas8656
@thomasmcnicholas8656 Год назад
Works great with tight gaps and even little mis-match
@speedpedro
@speedpedro 3 года назад
That's how tig welding robot works😁😁👍👍
@brianpeterson8667
@brianpeterson8667 3 года назад
Do you guys do any metalcore welding?
@madcapmagician6018
@madcapmagician6018 3 года назад
awesome video😁👍 is this a new procedure? and it's it certified as TIG or MIG?
@KallePihlajasaari
@KallePihlajasaari Год назад
It has been around 20 years already. It is TIG process with oscillating hot wire feed.
@welderdude1
@welderdude1 3 года назад
Quick answer, yes. The wire spool GTAW setups are awesome.
@johnnycanales4187
@johnnycanales4187 3 года назад
Please don’t give my boss any ideas I’m gonna have mig and tig in one hand and the stinger in the other
@havuanhle
@havuanhle 3 года назад
Lol
@charlesfriend9557
@charlesfriend9557 2 года назад
@ johnny canals, funny, My boss expects a grinder in one hand, torch in the other, hot cable over shoulder and you can only guess where i would like to place the stinger!!
@quartfeira
@quartfeira 2 года назад
Don't worry, it is not cheap. Like 25/30k if you're wandering 😁🤟
@michaelszczys8316
@michaelszczys8316 Год назад
Like I posted elsewhere, I don't have to worry about it, my place is too cheap to ever get me anything better than a mig wire feeder to hold in my left hand. I have to use one that's on top of the mig welder machine.
@alexandromarcelohuayanayfe5831
@alexandromarcelohuayanayfe5831 3 года назад
Good brother.
@landroveraddict2457
@landroveraddict2457 3 года назад
Awesome welding and photography. Is the wire part of the circuit? Or do you still need to put a cable on the work?
@KallePihlajasaari
@KallePihlajasaari Год назад
The TIG circuit is as normal and the wire has own extra preheat current from the TIP TIG control box. The magic of TIP TIG is an oscillating wire feed that stirs the pool and removes gasses and allows for more wire to be melted.
@mikemullins3761
@mikemullins3761 3 года назад
I've seen a guy MIG with both hands and do an AWESOME job. A shipbuilder.
@paulnaylor2605
@paulnaylor2605 3 года назад
The north sea tiger?
@michaelszczys8316
@michaelszczys8316 3 года назад
Did he use two live migs or one live and the other cold feed?
@nealtouchet5028
@nealtouchet5028 2 года назад
I was tasked at the shop I worked at about 8 years ago when this process started it was very awkward to get started with they had a guy come demonstrate it I was the only one that could get it to work kinda funny the demonstrator had troubles I had to figure out not knowing anything about it it was ok but I will stick with conventional tig
@parts7959
@parts7959 3 года назад
You can pound a nice root in on sch. 10 with this thing. It’s heavy though and awkward
@aprentis2
@aprentis2 3 года назад
Been doing it in our shop for years, try it without rolling the pipe.
@mynameisnobody4409
@mynameisnobody4409 3 года назад
I’d like to see him do it on 2” SS tubing beverage sanitary rolling the fittings is ok.
@johnh3797
@johnh3797 3 года назад
@@mynameisnobody4409 it’s not intended for fusion welding, not sanitary tube where you don’t need filler… duh.
@michaelszczys8316
@michaelszczys8316 3 года назад
I do it tig welder in right and mig welder lead in left hand. Luckily I just have to do straight lines
@chungtran7563
@chungtran7563 2 года назад
Okay man thank you
@faustinomartinez707
@faustinomartinez707 2 года назад
Exelente mucho más práctico en menos tiempo.
@michaelszczys8316
@michaelszczys8316 3 года назад
Do this all the time at my job. Its also known as ' cold feed '. I use a tig welder in right hand and mig welder wire feed with power disconnected in left hand.
@tomkarani8954
@tomkarani8954 3 года назад
Why is it called cold feed
@michaelszczys8316
@michaelszczys8316 3 года назад
@@tomkarani8954 I don't really know, thats just what its called. Probably because the wire is not charged, not part of the circuit, just fed in from the side. On a mig welder the wire is part of the circuit and the arc occurs off the end of the wire itself.
@michaelszczys8316
@michaelszczys8316 3 года назад
They make regular feeder machines for this purpose and they are known as ' cold feed ' machines. I am just using a mig welder wire feeder with no welder power applied. The problem with that is for what I do I need the wire to run very slow and the speed I use on a Miller wire feeder is just under, right on, or a tiny bit over .5 on the wire speed scale. Not a lot of adjustment.
@KallePihlajasaari
@KallePihlajasaari Год назад
This process does add a preheat current to the wire and also adds an oscillating motion to the wire to stir the melt pool. Less porosity and more deposition than other techniques when set up properly. The process was patented in 1998 think so bound to become popular when the patent runs out.
@michaelszczys8316
@michaelszczys8316 Год назад
@@KallePihlajasaari pre- heating the wire sounds like something I was once thinking of for totally different soldering process I do.
@anasarali9394
@anasarali9394 3 года назад
Nice bro
@jamerjosephformentera
@jamerjosephformentera 3 года назад
can you do that on overhead position?
@du-luremancing1117
@du-luremancing1117 3 года назад
The material is carbon steel or stainless..?? 2018 i use this machine in my job, my ex company used inconel material for aramco project.. I think you know this project my brother. Success and peace 👍🏻✌🏼
@hokep61
@hokep61 2 года назад
Basically...."cold wire feed" TIG process. Uses a different design torch, but has been use to weld tubes inside box headers for around 20 years. Developed by a company in Tulsa Oklahoma.
@KallePihlajasaari
@KallePihlajasaari Год назад
This is two steps past cold wire feed TIG. It has current added to the wire, you can even see the wire lug on the nose, and TIP TIG add an oscillation to the wire feed that stirs the melt pool to remove gasses and allow higher deposition rates. When done right it has advantages on most other systems.
@bradthurkle7217
@bradthurkle7217 3 года назад
Unreal 👏👏👏👏👏
@JORGE-SOLDADURAS
@JORGE-SOLDADURAS 3 года назад
Genios!!!
@sledsports
@sledsports 3 года назад
I want one now. Can you hold the filler wire tube in your filler hand and use it that way?
@michaelszczys8316
@michaelszczys8316 3 года назад
If you have access to a mig welder, even one of those little 110 volt ones, you might try disconnecting the welder power and use just the feeder to feed wire into tig weld. Been doing it 16 years. For most welding it needs to go really slow. I run right off the bottom of the scale on Miller mig feeder ( . 5 speed )
@anzargustian1639
@anzargustian1639 3 года назад
I am from indonesia, you good man
@yinabimengs7813
@yinabimengs7813 3 года назад
Bravo
@eisensumac1449
@eisensumac1449 3 года назад
how about the interpass temperature it's approved as per wps
@bradleyrussell1973
@bradleyrussell1973 3 года назад
I hope this process gets better in time. Now, globular transfer is much smoother.
@KallePihlajasaari
@KallePihlajasaari Год назад
Was patented in 1998 I think. Will become popular once the big boys can implement it without having to licence patents.
@jbone4217
@jbone4217 3 года назад
Awesome
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