Can your 4WD stop in an emergency?

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Is your 4x4 able to stop in time in an emergency? in today's video we undertake one of the biggest mechanical upgrades on my 80 series thus far, a complete overhaul of the brakes with a before and after test. Landcruiser Brake Upgrade
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Front:
Rotors (1992+ upgraded)
Disc Rotor - Front 4WD L/H FDR784HSL
Disc Rotor - Front 4WD R/H FDR784HSR
Calipers (1992+ Upgraded)
Disc Caliper - Front Right 090D0012
Disc Caliper - Front Left 090D0013
Brake pads
Front Brake Pads DB1199F
Rear:
Rotors
Disc Rotor - Rear 4WD L/H FDR785HSL
Disc Rotor - Rear 4WD R/H FDR785HSR
Brake pads
Rear Brake Pads 4WD DB1200F
Brake Disc Backing Plates
4778160100
4778260100
Rear Wheel bearing kit WBK3 x2
Genuine Toyota rear axle seals x2
9031035001
#Brakes #GVM #mechanical
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@AussieArvos Год назад

Have you guys felt the need to upgrade your brakes on your 4wd?

@offshoreoffroad Год назад

I have a 1991 80 aswell this upgrade is definitely on my list now after watching this. Very informative!

@k2svpete Год назад

Absolutely. Like you said, they're often overlooked but may save your life or that of others.

@MicahBell_1860 Год назад

Should be one of the first considerations

@35manning Год назад

Not yet. My '89 GQ can still lock the wheels, so plenty of braking power and being a manual with 4.2 diesel, I almost never need to use my brakes on decents (assuming I grab the right gear) and in fact more often need to use a little bit of accelerator. When they are due, I will be considering larger rotators, braided lines etc. Another thing you didn't mention about braided lines, is the bulging of the lines when braking. Braided lines give less, thus give a firmer feeling under braking which is why most race cars like using them.

@MicahBell_1860 Год назад

He did mention "swelling" instead of bulging@@35manning Same shit, different smell

@garyg2128 Год назад

When are we going to see Liam's car?.....I've been waiting for weeks and weeks..

@AussieArvos Год назад

We will have an episode next week 🤙

@HammerRocks Год назад

Brilliantly presented and another informative episode. No doubt about your creative and editing skills. I mean, these are TV level quality segments. But not only that, they;re easy to follow and easy to understand. 👏👍 Such a cheeky thumbnail 😁

@AussieArvos Год назад

Thanks you Hammer!! that means alot mate! HAHAH i know right, cheers :)

@2ndGearLow Год назад

Great video Pat, I was just watching this while having lunch and was pleasantly surprised by the shoutout! Glad we could help and keep up the awesome content 👌

@AussieArvos Год назад

No worries!! Absolutely live by your tutorials! Cheers :)

@TerryBeatson Год назад

Awesome vid as always Patty, I feel like the 80 doesn't get as much love from the fanbase these days because of Liam's GQ makeover, but it's awesome to see the odd little updates. The 80's really turning into a proper touring rig, and that's coming from a Patrol guy!

@Typingwithpaws Год назад

great video! I remember upgrading the brakes on my '85 L300 4x4 to 1995 pajero brake assemblies and a custom rear disk conversion. very similar results to what you've experienced!

@Philipk65 Год назад

Good to see you guys back. Great idea to upgrade the brakes on your vehicle, really aids in stopping. At 4:46 I really don't think the poor mullet would be to pleased to be tapping the cap lol 😂

@OffTheBeatenPathAus Год назад

Great video as always guys, safety can be boring and is often overlooked in favour of more fun mods. That's a tangible improvement for sure.

@Jeep.wj.tj.australia Год назад

Another great episode 👍🏻

@dugsbugs1 Год назад

The most overlooked component is the proportioning valve. Over the years, I have changed everything with little result. It wasn't until I put a new proportioning valve on that I actually got good brakes. Now it pulls up like a supercar.

@damiansilvester9928 Год назад

Bloody good job mate, well done! Like your enthusiasm, open & honest demeanour and having a good crack without Bullshit!! Like you I keep my vehicle & camping gear reasonably simple versus some other 4WD shows with all the bells & whistles, complications and massive weights their hauling around. My early BT50 just racked up 252,000 clicks of reliable trekking in pretty much most environments around OZ including working as a driving instructor, engineering work at mining & resource sites etc. Next time your in East Gippsland, would be thrilled to hook up.

@unluckyalf2007 Год назад

Nice vid. So good to see that you took an alternative route the usual Bendix option

@brandongoberdhan6335 Год назад

Very cool upgrade

@WaydeFn Год назад

finally another vid ive been waiting weeks ahaha

@ratedxxxable Год назад

It's a MALLET, not a MULLET. 🤣😂🤣😂 4.47 mark of video.

@k2svpete Год назад

I mean, you could use a mullet. Just need to hose off the blood and guts afterwards.

@krishilkaba3339 Год назад

This video made my sunda🎉 Thanks ausie arvos ❤ From Tanzania.

@AussieArvos Год назад

Thanks so much krish, means alot!! 🙏

@quinshaechanpaseuth4454 Год назад

your old man sure can craft anything mint vid

@Bush-Tv Год назад

Great video Pat, Luckily for me I'm running the bigger size on the 95 80 Series I do want to upgrade the rotors very soon. Plus I noticed one of the bearing races is a little loose inside the hub, So now looking at changing that over as well. Keep up the good work Lads. Almost at 100K 👍

@AussieArvos Год назад

Thanks bush TV! Lucky you haha! Cheers mate! Getting there!

@mick457 Год назад

brakes have always been my second mod, right after full exhaust, did it on my falcon and my paj

@Eye_Candy_Promotions_Australia Год назад

Well done, another great vid 👍

@AussieArvos Год назад

Thanks mate!

@cyclemoto8744 Год назад

Well done. Having upgraded the booster on my 76 after much delay due to the cost. I realised I should have done it sooner: the money was worth the additional safety

@froggy0162 Год назад

Those tests showed just how good ABS is!!

@ash300186 Год назад

Another great video Pat! I was looking forward to seeing you remove the cone washers because i reckon you would be one of the few that do it correctly 😅

@keilfestin4606 Год назад

Great video mate definitely need a good break upgrade especially while loaded up and over 3T 4wd

@AussieArvos Год назад

100%! Cheers :)

@ashleyduvall1962 Год назад

I’m pretty sure you can tune up the rear end a bit so it splits the brake load more evenly and saves the front locking up so quickly when you stomp your foot on the brakes. Anyway, neat video. 👍🏽

@johnnoblemedia Год назад

Great video boys.

@AussieArvos Год назад

Thanks John!

@craigtomkinson2837 Год назад

Lovely Ep, My 1HZ - 1990 - 80 series on 265/75 x 16s has great brakes, and has a good hand brake Id never change, In fact the engineer who did my GVM upgrade said there better than a lot new 4wds out there,

@AussieArvos Год назад

Thanks Craig!

@allanpower8041 Год назад

Well presenred Patrick, good job!

@AussieArvos Год назад

Thanks Allan!

@Aiden-nl5ti Год назад

Any time I pick up a spanner I'm excited if it's a mod or a general peace of maintenance. Enjoy the process of working on your car ( mechanic by trade so even after 5 days of working on cars I still love when the weekend comes and I can work on my rig)

@HendriMouton Год назад

Great vid man. Might be worth mentioning the brakes are only as good as the grip you have available. I did a brake upgrade on my 97" FT spec (which already has the bigger brakes) with some performance brake bits, huge difference in instant stopping power and long decents! Even with the ABS on the 80 (which is very rudimetary), I had to pull the fuse for most road conditions. It actually causes a major increase in the stopping distance on gravel. The only benefit with keeping it would be the advantage of having steering while you run off the gravel or into some game haha

@jescowan26 Год назад

great to see this important info coming out, safety will keep you and your 4X4 safer and on the roader longer :D did you swap the rears for the fronts? when rotating tires?

@tonygreen8221 Год назад

Great video mate. I reckon you should have given the hand brake shoes a good buff up with the wire brush.

@RingoTravels Год назад

Another great video 😊

@AussieArvos Год назад

Thanks Ringo!

@bencook5166 Год назад

Unfortunately braided brake lines are a really bad idea on a 4wd that does remote travel! The reason being……….you can’t clamp them like you can a rubber hose. So if there’s ever an issue off road you can’t just clamp a hose to ensure you still have brake pressure to the other brakes.

@camlawson2725 Год назад

Hey mate, I've blown a braided line and my vice grips clamped it off easy as. Dunno where everyone gets this from

@stco2426 Год назад

Great vid.

@AussieArvos Год назад

Thanks mate! 🤙

@clintonmorris1945 Год назад

Great video once again, but watch you light bar. That's a defect waiting to happen. You can now get flush mounting ones that on the top bar.

@gapnfap9223 Год назад

Very good vid on your part Pat. Love how you made your own template to cater for the rears instead of going to toyota. As for the brakes.. haven't heard of them but on the market for a brake upgrade for my 04 td42ti ute. P.s was this a sponsored vid from the brake manufacturer or just an upgrade you've had your eyes on?

@MinnieMaus-fl8bk Год назад

Same model, same modification and i am still Happy. Regards from Germany.

@Chook57 Год назад

They should make a huge difference mate..

@bentheguru4986 Год назад

LOL @ Special bearing pre-load tool. Get yourself a brass drfit punch and read-up on pre-loading.

@legsofsteel1 Год назад

Nah. Just get the 3 times finer bearing adjuster. Made in Adelaide. Look them up.

@FlemoJosh Год назад

You should also consider upgrading the master cylinder to suit the new bigger calipers and just because the age of the old one as-well

@AussieArvos Год назад

Agreed, I forgot to mention this, I hadn't done alot of research on them, but agreed next thing to do for the braking system! Cheers

@tadeuszmichaelwlodarczyk3120 Год назад

Nice up grade✔️✔️. I pump my brakes like abs no problem

@charliedelacour5545 Год назад

good grippy mud tires also help, I suspect with razars you won't even lock up

@fatmanoverlanding Год назад

Another brilliantly done video. Superb editing and presentation. I agree with you 100% brakes are critical and often overlooked. Ive got a 1996 LC80 and already w/the bigger brakes, but they too I found lacking, so I've upgraded to the Heavy Duty dba rotors and Bendix pads. Though I'm yet to upgrade to braided lines. I"ll do them along with when I upgrade my brake booster. Great episode. 👍

@AussieArvos Год назад

Thanks Fatman! Means alot mate! Yeah makes a big difference driving know you can pull the car up a few metres quicker! Cheers

@bradrees92 Год назад

Love the channel and your work boys, cracker of an episode. I've gotta say though this convinced me to stick with my stock brakes. If you're looking to shorten the braking distance, any possibility of locking up Is going against the gain. Rather put both feet into it than thinking about having ro regulate brake pedal pressure when avoiding an accident.

@AussieArvos Год назад

Thabjs Brad! yeah makes you think!, wouldn't be an issue if you had ABS but i definitily can't just slam it to the floor like i used too, have to be more controlled. i have noticed since making this that the bigger rotors have been better for more repetitive braking e.g long hills, as the caliper stays cooler.

@sbiggs10 Год назад

great video i am wondering did u mention that u should bleed the brake as well

@andrewphillips8966 Год назад

Still keen for gum boys was late today 😅was out the the kids on the mx track

@LockyourHubs4WDing Год назад

I did this on a mate's early Sahara 80, it actually stops now! Check out bearing adjustment nuts from Trail Gear in the states, much better setup than the two locking nuts and lock washer.

@AussieArvos Год назад

Thanks mate! Yeah it makes a big diffrence!! thanks for that info, that looks really interesting, might have to try them out! Cheers :)

@CustomcrowdMitroc Год назад

cant beat a bigger booster aswell. having drilled rotors will prevent fade caused by gases being built up from the break pads when they heat up

@Shaanjc96 Год назад

Just fine the same with my 105 series! Worth checking your brake portion valve if the 80’s came with them? Mine was seized

@tonykrause9652 Год назад

Just a thought if you’ve done a two inch lift,did you readjust your load sensing and proportioning bypass valve,as the valve is set to factory height,this could be putting to much into the front end brakes making them lock up .

@sammyjones3500 Год назад

My toyota cruiser got so bad breaking it can't be driven. I bought those larger calipers for the front. Really appreciate your help AussieArvos.

@AussieArvos Год назад

No worries mate! Cheers

@Stevenk770 Год назад

Have you changed the Brake Load Proportioning Valve? Mine started to leak and I since changed it and I felt it helped with the stoppping

@matthewhubbard7177 29 дней назад

I have a 91 HDJ 81 with the very small rear rotors. The rotors are very expensive to replace and I'm considering upgrading. Not sure if the backing plate will need to be replaced.

@guitarplayerlp7018 Год назад

great job but no anti rattle springs on the front?

@murrayblair2159 Год назад

Is fitting the bigger disc not require the 16inch rim? Ive often read guy's wanting to fit 15inch rima to the later year models

@dylb2858 Год назад

Hit with a mullet 😂😂

@user-uq5ge3pd4j Год назад

So going camping in the Grampians at the end of July wondering the best place to do that any ideas would be appreciated thank you

@dijm8 Год назад

well done on making flat spots on your tyres....on next weeks episode we got new tyres fitted! 🤣🤣

@AussieArvos Год назад

😂😂 I know right

@officialWWM Год назад

Whenever I hit the brakes on my old XJ, I cross my fingers and hope for the best. Tiny front discs and dodgy rear drums…it’s not exactly confidence inspiring!

@TastyAzWhole Год назад

You should mention that the brake rotors comes with oil so you must use brake cleaner on it to get rid of it first before installing

@fachu2 Год назад

Be careful with Protex 4WD pads, I put a set in my GU and they were great around town but out on the trails and on steep descents they would fade massively. I changed them out immediately after that. (I don't normally say anything negative about products but this is super critical and it needs to be said.)

@jamespugh3729 Месяц назад

If your fr9nt brakes are l9cking before the rears then your LSPV needs adjusting. Your rears should always lock first, just before the fronts.

@stefanwitt4184 Год назад

the stock proportioning valve wouldnt be set up for the larger front rotor, adjusting it might get you an even better braming distance

@matthewlindsay4701 Год назад

She’ll be an off-road beast once you get the lockers in

@MicahBell_1860 Год назад

My 93 GXL does have ABS. First question, does the 100 Series have bigger calipers to fit the bigger pads, & do they fit the 80 series. Secondly, I thought this video was going to be about installing a dual diaphragm brake booster. But you didn't?

@dustyfarmer Год назад

Smart move keeping the brake rotor backing plates. They are a safety item that increases braking when you need it most, IE: When you use your brakes. Try some of the DBA XP pads, I reckon they are great for stopping power & lifespan.

@AussieArvos Год назад

Thanks dusty!

@hisheroship Год назад

I have an 92 LandCruiser, and I can’t believe how small the brake rotors are. Landcruisers don’t like to stop accelerate or corner.

@davidcase4041 Год назад

Hi guys love your channel. You mentioned you use Partsouq, which I have come across. I have 1995 GQ, which partsouq do supply parts for. The issue I have, it doesn’t recognise my VIN. (LHD Philippines model). Do you know or does anyone know where is the best place to find parts numbers. Cheers Dave

@AussieArvos Год назад

Hi Dave! I just google to be honest, I usually can find them in a forum post or something!

@deanasser8813 Год назад

Hey patty, loving you're channel! Can i ask where did you find your factory service manual online? And what were the part numbers for the new backing plates? Ive just done big brake upgrade on my 80 and bent them to clear. keep in mind you can also fit an bigger brake booster which will require less pedal effort and make braking more predictable! With your rear axle seals be sure you push them in past the little leading edge. Otherwise, they like to walk out and fill your bearings with oil.

@AussieArvos Год назад

Thanks Dean! Part numbers in the description! And if you google Toyota 80 factory service manual you should find it! 🤙 Thanks for the info! Cheers

@AussieArvos Год назад

Oh and yes and I think upgrading the brake booster could be a good one too!! Just didn't get around to it this time!

@TURBOTRISTO Год назад

Should have thrown some nitro axles in it while you were going man! Perfect video

@ericjohnson6802 Год назад

And upgrade the cap screws as they shear off too easily.

@AussieArvos Год назад

Hahaha should of 😉 thanks Tristan!

@user-on4vw8zp2q Год назад

you should also rust proof under the 4wd

@ravensnax Год назад

throwing it out there did you adjust the proportioning value might help the brakes locking up? Also the dual diaphragm booster from pdi will also help reduce braking distance again, but its still a great video keep up the good work

@AussieArvos Год назад

Thanks raven! I forgot to mention about the brake booster, it is something I'm looking at but ran out of time !

@Stevenk770 Год назад

Don’t the 80 series already come with a dual diaphragm booster?

@jayarre1839 Год назад

hydrobooster is the best thing i ever did to by gq wagon.

@jarrod1687 Год назад

Same with gu, best brake mod you could do, doubles your line pressure. No need for bigger tb48 calipers and rotors

@BenMitro Год назад

Nice upgrade. Just a question, is it viable to retrofit ABS on the 80 series?

@AussieArvos Год назад

I think the later models that abs, I know the 105 series did

@FlatBrokeAdventures Год назад

I put new larger rotors on my 4by and it made a huge improvement even without touching the rear

@AussieArvos Год назад

Yeah just looking through the footage you can see how much force is going through those front brakes!

@FlatBrokeAdventures Год назад

@@AussieArvos Yeah true. I put larger tyres on and it reduced acceleration and increased braking distance and feel so I did the upgrade

@legsofsteel1 Год назад

Were you already running 16inch wheels? I would not have thought those brakes would fit in 15 inch wheels.

@FlatBrokeAdventures Год назад

@@legsofsteel1 yes I have factory 16 inch rims

@mj_aussie_coaster_travels8310 Год назад

Doesn’t matter how good your brakes are if your tyres can’t grip the tarmac, something off-road tyres are shit at.

@Ben-nt7fx Год назад

how much would it cost to do everything

@brianmaclennan561 Год назад

Bleed the brakes?

@ShayneMostyn Год назад

Thats a better thumbnail lads.

@outlawdingo3020 Год назад

You definitely don’t want your tires skidding as that can be a loss of traction thus you slide further and you aren’t able to steer if you need to

@__beer__ Год назад

I just took my 'new' 91 model 80 up to big desert over the long weekend, was great but the brakes are rubbish!

@AussieArvos Год назад

Yeah especially when you begin to load them up!

@Nethlon Год назад

105 pads have a little more surface area, they're not thicker.

@Falcon_Overland Год назад

Ooops, I litterally just upgraded mine last week and went straight to 130kmh and slammed the brakes on to see how much better they were and proceeded to do the same another 3 times 😢

@nilz6432 Год назад

how to kill pads and warp rotors 101...might get lucky, but if you find anything suspicious switch pads. Also most manufacturera have stopped advising the bedding in procedure given here. Anyway recommendation is 100-200 km light braking (exept emergencys) and as an option the bedding in as shown here, however it usually is not necessary anymore with modern pad materials. Always check what the pad manufacturer recommends.

@worthy_escapes Год назад

"Next we adjust the handbrake" We all know Toyota handbrakes are non-existent 😅

@yukaira Год назад

just a heads up your temperature readings probably aren't accurate, you cant measure heat visually on shiny things like brakes!

@scooterbmx_world8433 Год назад

Bruuh u forgot the drum brakes in the back of the car

@ConscientiousObserver 3 месяца назад

Seems like a lot of work for a small upgrade. Why not get them from a 70 or something else from this century

@Norskenxtreme Год назад

My 4x4 is a RN46. It will not stop in any kind of emergency lol

@nolz262 Год назад

So I assume you’re not running 15s?

@AussieArvos Год назад

16" rims, and with the new rotors in a very close fit, no chance with 15"

@nolz262 Год назад

Spewing I’m running 15s 😅

@jonolikesHiluxes Год назад

my dad has 2 2.4L Hiluxes that crashed on the same hill because they couldn’t stop :(

@froggy0162 Год назад

The main thing to remember is that if you’re going to driving a big heavy 4WD around you wont be able to stop like a proper car - because physics. 4WD tyres have relatively poor grip, the dynamics are poor and the weight is a lot of kinetic energy to lose. So drive slower and conservatively on public roads and try not to kill anyone - im looking at you lifted ranger drivers!

@matty_isthemotto Год назад

I got a 4wd so i dont have to stop 😂

@Herbal69 Год назад

Moose? I've smashed a few roos but never a moose.

@brandongould6555 11 месяцев назад

And because the road is wet

@bradgray123 Год назад

You need to learn Modulation Braking.

@leftardtroller Год назад

You should of done the handbrake shoes whilst you where there mate also an easier way to bed in brake pads find a concrete surface and rub the pads on them in a circular motion count 6-10 rotation and done. You can improve the braking a little bit more aswell buy upgrading the booster

@ashmelville4421 Год назад

I like watching u guys but you have a hoist why are u still sitting on the floor?

@171outdoor Год назад

Hello, I am a roof tent manufacturer from China, hope to cooperate with you

@SUPERTRUCKER166 Год назад

The downside to braided lines is if you damage them out 4wding etc (yes a stick or branch can still puncture them) you won’t be able to crimp them off. And it’s not a race car so the effective benefit of braided lines is zero.

@jayarre1839 Год назад

load of shit, braided lines lessen fade because they’re not rubber

@k2svpete Год назад

You don't need a race car to benefit from braided lines. The main improvement over standard rubber lines is the reduced expansion of the line under braking, giving more feel and allowing greater hydraulic force to be applied to the pistons, rather than lost to expansion in the lines.