Canada's "Air Force Ones": What We Know So Far About The CC-330 Husky 

Also helps that former RCAF pilots operating AC or TS A330s can still serve in a reservist role due to the commonality between the types.

Not big enough for all the hangers on that go with him on every trip! Remember he spends tax payer dollars like a drunken sailor! $220,000 in food on his last trip

@@JohnAnderson-sq8lt You're not funny, or smart.

@@transpiler you must be Liberal!

@@JohnAnderson-sq8lt grow the f up

has zip to do with politics only a hate monger would think so

Why? Don't compare it with jets operating in the domestic airline industry

​@michaeldunham3385 True, but aging jets parked outside still have the ordinary corrosion issues. The A330 has a lot of brackets holding wing to body fairings that tend to corrode badly and Airbus is a bad parts supplier. It usually ends up with MROs making their own brackets, while Airbus takes multiple days to certify them based on information from an e-mail.

I am a huge critic of the procurement process but these were great acquisitions. Aircraft are not measured in years, and these are lightly used.

Remember they won’t do doing the rounds as commercial jets do

4 of the aircraft are new.

no Mulrooney purchased them publickly as these are

you mean just as the UK and Australia did hmmmmm and 9 a/c are not a small purchase .

It's because it's not the aircraft type that got certified for refueling program

not yet available!!!!!!!

Better than nothing. Would’ve been cool if the VIP was an a350

horse shit. don't hear of any troubles at all with boeing in the military end

It's because the need is urgent, as it was affecting operations. If the VIP transport isn't working then they would need to pull another plane off what it was doing to transport the PM. Stop making things political bc you don't like the PM.

No he is correct. Procurement has never been this fast in Canada. Trudeau needs to keep his image

Trudeau’s budget is unlimited, as he spends money he doesn’t have.

Good. This is much better than the blank cheques the Americans seem to write to contractors like Boeing & co over the decades. In the U.K. there was public outrage at one of the government jets unnecessary new libery costing £1m. Rightly so. Hold governments to account.

The problem is political optics. If our PM bought brand new planes to use as VIP transport, the Conservative opposition would pounce on that as a luxury for the PM. Just like how the PM's residence needs to be renovated or razed, but the Conservatives cry foul that the PM is spending money frivolously. This is the problem with Canada. Canadians who don't like the PM would jump all over that even though by the time the PM's residence, these planes and most other capital purchases are realized this PM will have been retired.

@@glennwong5041 No - there is no issues with Canada or Canadians. It's time people grow up, including the leaders of the other parties that cause these problems. No matter what our PM does, the Conservative leader (his "Royals Opposition", his own words, not mine) won't be happy and he will complain. If it's a Monday or raining, the Conservatives Leader will blame the PM or the PMO. We just have to get past this childish crap. I have zero time for such crap.

@@NeilHyndman I agree with you, however the CPC and its supporters even criticize the PM for taking a vacation.

won't even be seen for ten years

want to wait another 7 years , I don't

@@alpearson9158 I was thinking happy thoughts, not realistic thoughts.

The new RCAF F-35As will require probe style refuelling capability which is currently not available in the current RCAF tanker fleet which only has the drogue system. The new tankers will come with a proper refuelling boom on the tail.

Stealth external fuel tanks are in the works.

The majority of the RCAF inventory is aircraft that was delivered brand new from the manufacturer.

I was being sarcastic…

yeah we know !!!@@RealBanana

yes.. beautiful quadjet..

My first 707 flight we were landing in a thunderstorm into Shearwater. It was that day I learned that yes, a planes wings really do 'flap', 6ft either way on the old girl.

I was wondering about that

totally unnecessary! Airbus will need to spend money to develop that....cost for customers will go up. Also so many used aircraft to use instead for such a low cost.

Military doesn't care about fuel efficiency. They do the job for 30 years.

and if not for Boeing shenanigans would be serving the US as origonally considered

exactly my Friend as The USAF KC-46 Pegasus was chosen to help Boeing as The C-17A Production line was closing down as Politics intervened as The KC-30B as The USAF had originally chosen carried more Fuel and satisfied the make in USA as Northrop Grumman had a Local Production line planned in Mobile Alabama The USAF made it clear The KC-30B was in Production and ready whereas The KC-46A was a Paper Airplane but Boeing used Political Clout to get the deal thrown out and their plane chosen instead as they have had delays since as European Aircraft Manufacturers have found it difficult to break into The US military Market as Politics often comes first even if The American Built offering is inferior it is often chosen as Buy American comes first like Trump tried when American Delta ordered The Bombardier Regional Jet he put massive Tariffs on the order and said they would only be removed if they bought an American (Boeing) equivalent only Boeing doesnt build a Regional Jet their smallest airliner 737 MAX was too big and look at the issues with that American Delta appealled Trump's ruling and The Courts said the Tariffs were illegal and now to prevent a future issue The CS200 is built for American Customers in USA

After previous scandals involving VIPs and alcohol on RCAF Flights, I'm pretty sure they will be dry regardless of their origins.

@@dakohli unlikely

A330 is for V.I.P the one on beginning of video. The blue and white one

30 years more likely and the new ones for 40

Those aircraft type are not part of program.

are you just naming a few aircraft you know of? How about a piper cub?

@@bruceketcheson4877 funny .

added to cargo deck

They have the same fuel tank configuration as the commercial version, as standard. Airbus make a point of the A330's huge fuel off-load capacity without having to sacrifice any passenger or cargo capacity. SimplyFlying seems to be the only site claiming extra tanks added to the cargo deck. That would be optional, at best.

I think that’s the cover for the pitch trim mechanism

@@MS-qx9uw Nope. Google it. This repair is being or has been done on every airbus aircraft to address stress cracking.

The ex Kuwait fleet is.

@@McLintox i assume that rcaf will have trent 72 once they get their own on last 4 airframes directly from airbus to keep up the same powerplant as the first 5 they are getting

no 330 neo's are currently available as mrtt's

Yup, the Canadian government doesn’t like developing its abundant natural resources. Too many small but noisy groups against it. So, it’s just higher taxes and more borrowing to pay. Very unfortunate situation.

@@alpearson9158 I know that. It can't take much to develop a MRTT out of the Neo, derived from the A330 MRTT.

MRTT NEO IS NOT CERTIFIED YET, PLANE ARE NEEDED NOW!

@@ZebraAfrica the ststed time stamp is 10 years so no

Not all of them

@@lloydkuepfer1599Buying *any* used hardware and expecting to milk it out to yet another ridiculous overstretched lifespan is unworthy of a G7 member state. Any airframe has a set maximum expected number of pressurization cycles and overall limits of metal fatigue from the time the metal is forged and fabricated and assembled. Canadian service members deserve better than a government that shops for their gear at the charity shops' Gently-Used lots.

grow up !@@puirYorick

@@alpearson9158 "grow up !" Now there's a response from an intellectual titan -- not.

It was cheaper

The NEO MRTT is yet to be developed and certified.

Lol I'm pretty sure Air Canada has a bigger budget for aircraft than the RCAF does... They are only retiring the A310s now because they are literally falling apart.

Don't think there's enough demand for a neo version

didnt went?

ten years out for an mrtt

Not available yet

How long ago was that?

@@AirplaneDoctor_ Until quite recently actually, at least in my home country of Israel

​@@oboealtoAlright, l was going to say Canadian PM's haven't flown commercial in many many decades.

@@AirplaneDoctor_ It's interesting you mention Canada because Israel's President Shimon Perez actually flew on an official trip to Canada with Air Canada. This unusual turn of events followed Israel's flagship airline demand for US$ 4700 for carrying a backup oxygen tank for the President. We all saluted him for that!

​@@oboealtoIt's more about hypocrisy and a double standard with Canada. Trudeau has been punishing Canadian's with special environmental taxes saying he's trying to save the world from global warming, yet he refuses to fly commercial which would save taxpayers millions plus leave a smaller carbon footprint.

uneducated child

remember rcaf used to own some rolls royce powered L1011-500 tanker before so im sure they will have some familiar cold start on these rolls engines no matter if its old model or newer model

you mean like all the others have done ?

4 of the aircraft are new from AirBus

The -900neo isent a stretch. It's the same size as the -300ceo. The -800neo is the same size as the -200ceo

*isn't

They're buying aircraft type what the program originally started with

Nope. Royal Canadian Air Force was re-established under the previous Government

Its been the Royal Canadian Air Force again since 2011. A reversal from the stupid naming of "Air Command" that came with unification. And it was a welcome and popular change.

The CH-148, CC-295, CH-149, CH-147, CT-156, CC-130J, CC-144D, CC-177, and CE-145, and most CF-188 were all delivered brand new. That's the vast majority of the RCAF inventory.

Some were bought lightly used so we could get them faster (and get a deal for more). Some are brand new. Some people are never happy.

Not all of the aircraft are getting converted to MRTT. A few will remain in full passenger configurations similar to the current CC-150 fleet.

@@shenherm But if this is not enough, as they only took 2, a rebid for dedicated VVIP aircraft would be necessary, for mission allocation efficiency reasons.

@jimmyjiang3413 Not at all. There is currently only 2 Polaris in all passenger configuration. None of them have ever been VVIP because we don't need a VVIP aircraft. The VIP fly on any of the Polaris, and very likely any of the CC-330 alike. One or two of the CC-330 will likely be fit with a small bedroom/office in the back and preferred for VIP movements over other aircraft, but the idea is to have flexibility rather than dedicated VVIP which cannot be used for anything other than political private jets.

@@shenherm But it may not have enough privacy and security of true VVIP aircraft, as where there may be more secure communications and resistance to a given nuclear blast. PMs and royal family are truly VVIPs and some sort of extra dedication would be necessary.

​@@jimmyjiang3413 We have never had a VVIP aircraft and simply don't need one.

neither currently adaptable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

get a brain

@@alpearson9158 I do have a brain. The a330 burns significantly more fuel and emits significantly more CO2 than the A310 it's replacing. But please turn your thermostat down. You're killing the planet.

​@alpearson9158 is he wrong???

@@153eddy We expect our PM to fly to conferences and to go one trade missions. He requires a plane to do that. So he is wrong.

@@153eddy yes the a330-200's are far more efficient than the a310's

ships ordered 2019 a/c ordered jan 2023 problem is delivery not want or need

that has been published, they are very low and these planes are close to new

What a ridiculous comment. STFU.

you may regret that unfortunately

no

Why?

@@glennwong5041 Military colours

@@JohnAnderson-sq8lt I meant why would they be white? Responding to Artisanbiz

go play on any highway available