Pun really said "Hit em with a thousand pounds of pressure per slap, Make his whole body jerk back, Watch the earth crack , hand em his purse back" 🤣 straight🔥🔥
It obviously would be legendary to have on tape or video but end of the day it’s not all about recording everything, as long as it happened and the top g’s remember it’s all good.
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@@marcust6479 he wasnt the best out of all these dudes in the cypher in my opinion, but he definitely brought that raw energy and cadence. Rip to Dark Man X.
As soon as he started rapping he commanded the attention energy of the whole room, they all shutup to listen instantly DMX always looks like ghost rider when he starts rapping to me. I see he flesh peeled back and his skull is engulfed in flames
Pun opened himself up to a diss on that one. Only thing he ever smacked was his lips. Don't know why he's talkin about physical violence. Only workout he did that entire year was standing up.
Glad I've seen a few of em live.. a few times,, before they passed... mc's at a dinner table chillin... gangstas waaaay before youtube!.... bet those cameramen were using a new VHS system fa sho! 🤣🤣🤣 I know I was!...
I can NEVER understand Why Pun is NEVER brought up in any Top 5 DOA conversations. The man was lyrically insane not to mention 400 pounds. You know how hard it is to spit like that at 400 pounds.
Big L Just listened to Alphabetic Slaughter and it sounded forced. Wouldn't listen to it twice. Papoose is OK but everyone telling you Pun is way better is dead right. I'd rather hear white girls rhyming Alphabet Aerobics than Alphabetical Slaughter rhymed by Papoose.
In a room full of lions, Kings, line for liners, Bar-smiths, and True M.C.'s, Big Punisher wrecked this freestyle circle, truly a beautiful thing to see.
Look close at 01:23 the dap was given but blocked by the glass Def drank from. And I thought for the longest the Punisher had been disrespected! Makes sense he wasn't he might have made a scene lol!
Man, RIP PUN and X. Literally two of the e greatest rappers of Alltime. All these brothers get mentioned at some point in the story of hip hop. I appreciate Irv being a part of hip hop glory. He was a fan and a taste maker of the genre.
Mad respect Mic G. He indeed ws the only one 2 drop frm the dome in this cypher. Takes nothing away though from the fact of the greatness of what has been captured here for posterity. This is an epic moment.
This video is so epic, everyone's style is so different. The diversity in the game back then is what made hip hop so good. They all come with it. Mos on some mental deep shit, I mean that shit dope he's painting pics. Then Dmx with a crazy aggressive style, the other homie with the freestyle, Pun with the fire scorching the table and Canibus with the LL Cool J diss! I love this video
Notes: - Pun though? “I blow my own mind like Nirvana.” ….killed it! - Canibus was nice too, few good shots towards L. - something about X you could just tell he was special and had star power early on. - mos def was always nice
DMX rapped a verse from Ain't No Way, Pun from Dream Shatterer, Mos Def from RE:Definition, and Canibus from Second Round Knockout, only Mic Geronimo did it off the top of the dome. But regardless people forget that the original definition of a freestyle verse is a random 16 bar verse, not necessarily off the top.
I'm the beginning of the video they all agree to spit a random 16 . Only the Persian who uploaded the video made it seem like they were spitting freestyles
Yeah i didn't think much of it at first cus he was being a joke with that whole " I deserve to write the hook shit at the start... but it's tight. Especially the second half.
@@vincesavage3086 "Where's a rhyme when you need it!?/First rule of lyrical war: never repeat it! You said that SAME bullshit at House Of Blues...". Until I saw this I didn't know what he meant.
@@jarule275 there are plenty, don’t get me wrong, I’m from upstate NY, Stove God, Griselda, they my favorite of this new generation… But a lot of the popular stuff that gets played over and over again, lack the skills…it wasn’t like that back then, your bars had to be crazy to sit down in a cipher like that
Dawg when pun started spittin you start hearing real reactions from everyone else in the room. You can tell niggas really respected one another back then
Canibus wouldn’t be able to say that eating line in this era without everyone saying “pause, sus, no homo” back then we didnt take that line as literally we took it as a metaphor
Not even a metaphor with the ass part "a niggas ass" as in his person so the line is "you don't have the skills to eat a man alive". I think most people would get it but it still sounds sus no matter whether you know or not 😂
@Groovy J biggie was not a better artist, nor a better storyteller. besides he rapped shit he wasnt living, aka the ultimate fake. fuck outta here. canibus shits on litterally everybody, including pun. canibus was and still is ahead of his time. he got intergalactical secrets for us, heis not getting caught up in politics unlike pac. he is not living a lie unlike big. his vocab is unmatched, his lyricism is unmatched. he just got blackballed so the industry can push fake rappers like ll cool j, eminem etc. biggie and pac are trash in comparison. get off that dick bro listen to secrets amongst cosmonauts. that is the truth. channel zero, taht is the truth. neither pac nor big could come up with factualy stories like this, mixed with lyricism wordplay and an insane vocab like canibus. the truth hurts i know, but dont tell me big was better. thats the biggest joke ever.
Hip hop is so beautiful, they were just friends chilling and having fun while freestyling. It's so nice to see the union that Hip hop makes. I've been just like that with a couple of friends gathered and freestyling to a beat. Only thing missing here was a beat.
@@jbarral6509 Yeah there was a lot of violence. But rappers were usually pretty chill and weren't really shooting each other then. It was mostly dope boys, robbers, and gangs. Nowadays, rappers kill people to PRETEND to be in gangs or sell drugs. Rappers in that era were largely rappers because they didn't want that kinda lifestyle. There are exceptions but it really wasn't until about the mid 2000s that rappers created the persona of drug kingpin and gang member and things got heated. My point is that rappers were mostly CELEBRATED in their hoods. Their existence alone would unite whole communities, just like Biggie did in NYC. Now, they get killed by random weirdos looking for attention on Instagram.
@@jbarral6509 Of course, that always been there and always will, I prefer to focus on the positive and stuff. Though I love all kinds of hip hop, gansta or not. As long as is old schoold, bc that's my shit. I barely listen to newer shit.
they were both the best around at that time, thats why pun never said shit when canibus said he had the right to anchor. also felt that pun was a bit jealous after canibus dropped his bars. canibus was coming with that raw hardcore shit, military lines (run 20 miles on soft sand) . pun still absolutely amazing though.
@Stephen ssr&rtv2019 so? he admitted he lost. then he pulled the notepad out. stop crying like a little bitch over that shit . bis still the goat. no one wins every battle they are in. eminem couldnt even beat ja rule. nuff said. everyone takes a l left and right. no biggie, canibus was man enough to admit he lost. and to be honest he didnt even lose, all dizaster did was exactly what eminem did, copying canibus style and mocking it. pure trash.
this is basically the freshmen cypher of 98'....now go watch the xxl freshmen cyphers from the past decade without throwing your phone out the window crying tears of disbelief, feelin' disturbed by the lack of skill in todays rappers
Big Pun one of the most slept on and underrated artists imo. I’m a white boy from Canada and I’ve been listening to pun for over a decade. No one ever talks about Pun and it pisses me off, his flow was legendary. And his breath control for such a large man is incredible. Also when he does breathe it almost sounds like a chainsaw which is even more badass
@@jasonmoan well I guess he should’ve had more work for people to go off of, but pun to me never gets mentioned amongst the top Mc’s. Not saying he needs to be on the list but mentioned
Legendary doesn't even do justice to describe the level of lyrical genius at that table. Some of the best rappers to ever do it. RIP Big Pun, best latin lyricist of all time. RIP DMX, hardest, realest NY rapper of all time. 👑
@@eb2604 Lol Eminem barely started rapping fast consistently recently. He has 20 years worth of music before that where he didn't rap fast. So stfu with that nonsense.
Legendary moment…all lyrically heavy but in my opinion Big Pun and Canibus was above all others at this table. Pun passed too early unfortunately and Canibus ‘98 was god those was there know the hype around him was real. Of course that debut album wasn’t what I was expecting it was all over the place…Canibus delivered better albums later but many left him after that flawed debut sadly. Also it’s obvious Canibus was like…damn THE PUNISHER freaking took it 😂 mutual respect but Pun was still new here and wasn’t going to let this moment pass by…there is no such thing as shooting for second place 😂 there can only be ONE.
@@realpoetics even though Canibus was blackballed by the industry in his later years. ‘Bis smokes Mos Def by miles…I’m aware Mos is a poet and whatnot but he’s just not touching ‘Bis. Even on a bad day but it’s cool a difference of opinion nothing wrong with that.
+Keith Brown all of it was its a shame but pun never used to freestyle off the top of his dome.. he still smashed any verse he got his hands on tho (y)
And cannibus is where? Vs LL who not too long ago got some type of lifetime achievement award for music and rocked the stage. All them niggas at that table had a better career and probably more respect than cannabitch lol
@@terrymarsh2001 ppl probably hate on him because he's full of himself and for what reason? What did he accomplish in the game to make him think he was better than everybody? I know that's typical rap ego but he was too cocky.
Mic Geronimo is definitely a solid and underrated rapper. Check out his first album then go from there, he played a part in giving Ja Rule some publicity as well as Jay-z AND DMX, and DMX made history on the track Time To Build where he rhymed orange for the first time in recorded Hip-Hop history.
@Mach B if you knew hiphop you’d know that a freestyle can be written. The difference is off the dome/written. You aren’t educated enough to understand so leave the conversation
@@ILoveTheAllCreator This is such an old discussion in rap. Most listeners already understand that a 'freestyle' doesn't necessarily mean the top of the dome. Canibus spit a written too. Are you going to hold that against him too?
