CANIBUS DIDN'T BLOW UP BUT EMINEM DID?? & MATH DID ENINEM DISS RECORD FOR BENZINO??? DROP A COMMENT 

"Every warrior has an axe to bury But he has to learn to discern between enemy and adversary I said to myself, Germaine, this is insane It's suicide, it's controlled flight into terrain" -Canibus reflecting on self sabotage

Zino is delusional..also they have him sitting on a telephone book? 😂😂😂

Canibus didn’t know how to make radio songs, Em did. It’s not that complicated

97'-98' Canibus was untouchable.

C'mon now, Em signed to dre and canibus signed to Wyclef, enough said

Canibus was a "Pure" spitter. 1 of the best to ever bless a mic 🎤 but his problem was he couldn't make a HIT record. That was the difference with Em and Canibus.

Eminem had the better introduction then was right in the middle of Dre's resurgence. When Ems second album hit it was perfectly timed with the upcoming tour. That up in smoke tour was something special. Never be duplicated

Only difference is that Eminem can actually write songs which was canibus biggest weakness

People in the industry didn't like Bus as they said he was hard to work with. I heard this from a woman who was Busta Rhymes A&R at the time. He also made plenty of artistic missteps and had the wrong people backing him if the goal was to blow up, which I don't think it really was.

I remember back then around '99 Eminem was mainstream all over MTV with comical videos + Dre droppin Chronic 2001, Em was basically Pop music and the entire world paid him attention. Canibus was more underground spitter. But in '98 the anticipation for his album to drop amongst DMX Nore Big Pun Cam'ron etc was intense. But his debut was a bit of an anticlimax so when Eminem dropped around '99 Canibus weren't at that mainstream level and his next album 2000 B.C (100 Bars 🔥) dropped in 2000 only Hardcore Hip-Hop heads were paying him attention and he faded into the deep deep underground. Don't pretend we didn't see this in everyday life back then where white brothers had all the support & opportunity handed to him but the black brother with the same or better skills was not and left to fade & rot. White people lived on a different plateau back then, a different world. It's was like the Blind Side. When Black & White unite, major things take place.

There's more to being a great rapper than just being gifted lyricist...

Canibus and Em, at their peaks, were neck and neck lyrically. There's a reason people wanted to see them battle. Canibus didn't take off simply because people couldn't relate to his content. There was absolutely a lane for him, but it was in the Redman/ Def Squad lane. Everyone loved his bars, but his songs didn't connect with the majority of the people. Em however had an entire race behind him, content you had never really heard and he was backed by the culture. Nobody was beating that back then..

Eminem blew up before Canibus because he had substance that created his fan base. He spoke on things that his fans could relate to. Canibus was dope af and he could possibly body Em. But he didnt have that connection to the fans that Em had.

Canibus didn't blow up bcuz niggas always say they don't wanna hear that lyrical shit. Meanwhile the rest of the world wanted to hear lyrics and supported eminem because they related him. We do it to ourselves

I hate when ppl do this… Eminem made better music than Canibus… they was both nice but Canibus jus wasn’t making better songs.. it wasn’t a race thing

Em was a dope mc who knew how to write music, Bis was just a dope mc. There's your difference on why one made it and the other didn't... simple as that.

eminem popped because his core empathized and connected with the vulnerability and honesty in his music - him being dead nice lyrically was just icing on the cake

I've been listening to hip-hop since the 80's. And I don't care how lyrical you are. If cannot take those super lyrical barz and make an actual song with them. You will not make it in hip-hop aka Cannibus. And Wyclef produced Cannibus's first album. When that flopped cannibus literally just disappeared. His biggest claim to fame is his beef with LL.

Canibus was ahead of his time and his style i belive was not handle correctly fars the art part and bad bussines moves 😮

"But if the only reason I blowed is 'cause I'm white though Why don't every other white rapper sell what I sold?" Eminem

I would never claim to be no, Ray Benzino

Zino is losing a lot of sleep from envy

Well said Benzino

Remember how they said the beats were wack on Canibus albums? Eminem Albums minus ALL 5 Dre productions: Hold My Beer

Did Zino not just admitted to asking for other ppl to diss Eminem but also using ghostwriters?? Kkkk Cannabis problem was he folded after the disses and problems that came with fame and similar to the way when he pulled the notes on the battle scene... If he had stuck and tried again he may had risen

At this point Math should just drop the Em diss he's been talking about for YEARS.

Benzino got some real trauma associated with "College".

Math #1 hiphop podcast💪💯💪

Canibus was blackballed by the music industry.That's why he didn't blow up like he should've.

Just an honest opinion Cannibus didn't blow up for the same reason that 99% of battle rappers dont blow, you can have all the bars in the world but if you cant make songs people want to listen to you aint gonna make it. It is what it is. This whole "whoa is me, why did he make it and i didnt" shit is super corny. Its life.

Canibus biggest mistake was not making songs with relatable concepts . His songs were too scientifical . Also he didnt know how to balance his album with commercial radio singles and underground singles ….Plus all his songs had tons of metaphors and not enough story telling songs . …..Canibus is still on my top 10 .

All the way from Memphis

dude said fuck integrity aint nothing after thathe says matters

There's alot of non black rappers out today repping gangs and using the n-word/ being culture vultures that need checkin. Em has earned his stripes in my opinion

can't w8 4 the full episode

Wow. Crazy stories

Canibus was THE topic in 97... A little bit of 96 too with that Music Makes Me High remix. Canibus came out the gate different. Its like yesterday you never heard of him and today... Hes on 30 verses on 34 different mixtapes. Hes track 4 on Clue, track 1 on Ron G, track one on Envy, track 2 on Big Mike, track 4 on Absolute... Thats day 2 now, remember yesterday you didnt know who this nigga was. Day 5... On a song with Lost Boyz and Dogg Pound... Day 7 another song with Lost Boyz but it also has G Rap and Heltah Skeltah on it. Day 9, Lost Boyz, A+ and Panama PI, Day 10, hes on a remix with Black Rob and Yvette Michelle. Day 12 Tragedy Khadafi, Big Pun & Killa Sha, Day 15 3LW, Day 20, Brian McKnight, Day 31 Common Sense, Day 50 the whole Firm, Day 51, the whole Firm minus Nas cause Nas pulled his verse after hearing Canibus verse (allegedly), day 70... Day... It dont matter, Canibus hit the planet like The tunguska meteorite that hit Russia... And radiated unabated for 3 years and then... They came for him. The industry, LL & Wyclef and he wasnt even 22 yet. We give Bis a hard time when Rakim and G Rap both at the time are quoted as saying they're most excited about him... In the moment, both the hip hop god's said it was Canibus that wxcited them the most. We dwell alot on hearsay and what we believe we remember but I remember mixtapes being sold out everywhere because he was on it. That wasn't a thing, mixtapes didn't sell out at the mixtape spot, they sold out all the time because there was a Canibus verse in 97... I was there, I walked down the hill from Jamaica high school to Jamaica avenue as fast as I could to pick up the new clue and "sorry kid, sold the last one 2 hours ago but come back Thursday, Clue said he'll be back to drop off some more." Im reading these comments and I know yall wasnt in NYC during the missle launch that was Canibus. If yall was, y'all was babies and heard about son from your pops a decade later in 2007 maybe but you werent there... You never hewed Seriously or Boys To Men or Making A Name For Ourselves or Bop Your Heads or Ladies & Willies or the 60 minute freestyle with DMX and Nore... I mean heard it live... The set up, conversation before the beat drops and everything. Yall wasn't there, Eminem didnt step out the gate like this... Canibus did it by himself. His machine was his bars, Cheeks and Charles Suitt. Eminem stepped out the gate, no one heard it and then Dre signed him. Em is cool but Canibus was energy in 96. Me and my friends was battling each othwr wirh Canibus, Pun, DMX and Nas bars in the cafeteria in 8th grade because that was the energy whether you want to remember or you cant. My only beef with Benzino here is... Why didnt he reaxh out to Bis then cause no bullshit, Hangmen3 had some of the hottest beats back then and was a machine when It came to putting out music. Made Men were everywhere so I can't understand why if Benzino feels this way right now... Why didn't he pull this rapper that he clearly respects into his circle back then. Canibus over some of them beats??? All respects to math but he's no Germaine Williams... His should have been the shooter that Benzino was looking for back then. Damn... I know people reading this and Don't have a clue, don't even know what a DJ Absolute mixtape even is... you had to be there

2 completely different types of artists as far as song writing lol like this gotta be top 5 dumbest comparison

Im from Canada and EVERYONE had that canabis cd with 2nd round knockout on it

this was good

Shiny suits was not a thing in 2002. He always says that but I think that’s just a excuse.

This brother really hates college 😒

Canibus was definitely a problem but wyclef didn't know what do to wit him

“I was gonna get him to write me a diss record” 🤣🤣🤣🤣

It’s wild watching a man relive all his mistakes! Literally if he do 2 things different the source might be around still! He’s a joke to the world now

Zino is a hiphop connoisseur..i think why Bis didnt blow could be due to 1. Industry politics and certain people not wanting him to blow maybe.. 2. The lack of financial muscle and not the equivalent big people behind him to push the movement. 3. Lack of consumer ready pop friendly music I may be wrong....

Yo Jose was one of the kitchen CO's when I was doing a quick little skid bid in MDC Brooklyn back in 06

Canibus messed his album up by having like 4 or 5 of his legendary freestyle verses on it. Why he didnt succeed like Em, his album wasn't all that, he didnt have the versatility Em did, didnt change his voice, his mood, his flow, his delivery, aggression, cadence, NOTHING.

If Benzino won the battle somehow, he was actually going to brag and celebrate after using ghostwriters.

It's all about music, let's be real, canibus is a great lyrcist but his music isn't really good in my opinion. Eminem made great relatable music, canibus did not, You can be the most lyrical rapper ever but you have to make good music. 50 cent isn't the most lyrical rapper ever but he made good sounding music with catchy hooks and dope beats, tupac wasn't super lyrical also but made music people can relate to and made some great sounding and apealling music, threw some rnb cats on the hook and had some dope beats. Canibus music doesn't really hit

Eminem had Dr. Dre. If ANYONE but Wyclef would've signed and mentored Canibus properly, it changes everything.

Why in the hell would you ask another rapper to write a diss song for you to rap? That’s automatic loss!

That verse by Canibus on Wyclef’s Gone To November remix was dope as fuck!!! If Canibus did tracks like that with his more raw shit, he might’ve had a chance to blow… Few tracks on his debut are great songs that should’ve blown up too… Get Retarded is one of em!!

Eminem = Canibus !! (same style, different results) ~ 🎭

Hip Hop is in the Army now!

Real Beantown dawg right there💯 💪🏿👌🏿👌🏿👌🏿

While they are of the same/similar ilk, there is was plenty of seperation between prime Em and Canibus as artists/song writers. And that's the case with a lot of underground rappers he draws comparisons to. Yes he got to thrive in the mainstream in a way that other's couldn't, that is true, but it wasn't just because he was white because if that was the case people like Cage would have thrived as well. I don't think you could have replaced Eminem with any white or black rapper from the underground and gotten the same results commercially or critically. Not Chino XL, not Cage, Not Canibus ect.

I’m really hoping Eminem will show up on this channel

Makes sense how Ben got a 2nd diss track so fast😂 they write it he spits it🤣

haha Benzino reported me for cyberbullying could you believe that lmfao

Zino trying to recruit Math to diss EM PATHETIC

He said I WAS obsessed lol dudes still obsessed

Canibus is a 1 of 1 . Respect the pen

If you(Benzino) wanted Canibus to blow like Eminem, you had all the power with your magazine to help him blow but you didn’t.

Canibus made all the mistakes that Eminem didn't, and as a result their careers took two inevitably different routes.

Here’s the real reason why Canibus didn’t blow: he was lyrical but he made wrong moves. The 1st was being in his ways and thought he could destroy LL Cool J with a diss song. (Although that was LL’s fault cause he took Canibus line wrong) but you can’t take risk making a diss record on LL. And what happened? LL destroyed him with 2 diss songs. Second mistake was the people he chose to make the first album and then blames them why the album was garbage. If you’re a lyrical monster, you need the right type of producers to bring that beast out of you. Wyclef can’t do that. Also, when Eminem battles, he doesn’t pull out his rhyme book. 😂

Benzino - Why Didn’t Canibus make it The truth - LL Cool J 😂

Bus came on here already and said why his career didn't blow

Eminem had one of the best co-signs at that time in Dre. Plus Em had more charisma on his projects.

Zino aka zzzster is one funny dude without even trying, everyone knows someone like him with all the excuses in the world 🌎 it's never his fault either lol

Benzino acts like he's never seen a Black person w a regular 9-5. Everybody who was not in the Armed Forces or College sold drugs???😂

When this drop

Canibus is the greatest untold story because even when you know it, you don't know it. How can he be mentioned with the greats constantly but never given the credit? I think Canibus, LL and Eminem should do a track together for the sake of hiphop cause hiphop sucks badly now.

Canibus was blackballed because he destroyed LL. They couldn't admit he got the better of him so they blackballed him instead. They silence dissent in hip-hop just like politics.

Eminem is a songwriter too, not just a rapper. Canibus is a dope rapper, Eminem is a once in a generation artist.

I'm an eminem "stan" that does not respect benzino, but his almighty rso shit from the 80s and 90's something every hip hop fan should check out. I feel like nobody knows the old boston scene anymore

Em ripped out his soul jeesh! A real battle rapper can have that effect 😂

Canibus was hot as blue flame on the streets but his debut album destroyed his huge buzz.

It ain’t what you know. It’s who you know.

I have been saying the same when it comes to Bis but ever one rides for Eminem

Em songs was never mainstream and was weird canibus was going in the same lane wit weird rhymes but he was black he can only do what the label push

The hip-hop artists that blow up aren't necessarily the best emcees. They're the ones who know how to write songs that people like, not simply have the best bars. I love Travis Scott. Is he the greatest lyricist? No. But that's fine. Eminem is both a great lyricist and a great songwriter. That's why he's a superstar.

No mainly lyrical dudes around that time ever blew up. Has Mos Def , Common, or any of the other lyricist lounge or dudes associated with Rawkus gone platinum, let alone gold? It’s a whole bunch of dudes other than Canibus. Em was the ONLY one to blow up, so that whole ‘these dudes can’t write good records’ was bs. People didn’t wanna hear lyrical black dudes. It’s just what it was. Some sold just enough and were respected enough to stay a float. I remember trying to get so many people to listen to Common’s LWFC and hardly no one wanted to even give it a shot even though it was a dope album with great songs. Smart black dudes somehow people don’t wanna here, but when Marshall Mathers LP came out a couple months later, no one hesitated to listen to it. To me it was mediocre partly because Common and J Dilla had set the bar for me at that time, but it doesn’t matter when people don’t want to give you a fair listen.

Canibus was poppin for a few years tho and his first albums platinum

Canibus had Wyclef Eminem had Dre that was the difference

The hate on Em fest continues lol he’s the goat give it up

I wish Benzeno didn't mention EM SO much.. he’s got way more history than that ….

The truth is this. Eminem had Dr. Dre’s co-sign. Period! I don’t care how dope of a lyricist Eminem was, if he didn’t have Dre backing him he would have been a white Ras Kass or Common Sense. That’s a fact! I don’t want to discount his lyrical genius but he had a machine behind him that the others just didn’t have in Jimmy Iovine and Dre. When you’re white in America the world is yours. The Beastie Boys had Def Jam and Run DMC in their corner and they became legendary too and outsold Run DMC! Regarding Canibus he destroyed his entire legacy by having Wyclef Jean produce his music alongside beefing with LL. That was career suicide. The music business is a tricky ride where timing and poor execution can destroy a promising career.

Math needs new topics. Should be on Shade45 the amount Em comes up.

Chino xl is the one who everybody forgot about at that time. Cannibus was alright. Chino influenced so much of the culture.

Can y’all please for the love of all humanity get someone who proof reads what they type before posting the title for the video

Benzino whole career is Eminem dissing him lmao

Did you hear Canibus 1st album? It was below average. Slim Shady LP on the other hand....

Canibus is not a good song writer. Him and Wyclef didn’t work. Eminem was a good song writer. Em and Dre obviously worked.

I have to agree with Beenzino on this one because I watch this podcast a lot and whenever there’s a conversation about dope emcees, they never bring canibus name up, so do they really fuck with him?

It's good to see Benzino is still able to speak after choking for so long on his pitiful attempts at dissing Em, and trying to do something sort of like rap but not really while naked (Still tryna' unsee that)

CANIBUS > eminem .. ALL DAY .. EVERYDAY .. AND TWICE ON SUNDAY ..

Em and Canibus are lyrical miracle...but Em had the humor for MTV. Same way MF DOOM had humor for Adult Swim. Canibus was lyrical but not lyrically entertaining.

Eminem knew how to make a song like Stan and had a persona that no one seen before, Canibus didn’t pretty simple concept as to why one blew up and the other didn’t

AND, Canibus Went Complete, “I’m Bad” After He Torched, L.L..With that being said, he took on the entire “I’m Bad” persona, so everything was about continuously stomping on L.L. Taking his “I’m Bad” voice and trying to make the world understand how he beat and how bad. To this day, he STILL had that same voice and Most aren’t looking to listen to him. CANIBUS’ whole style and lyrical content changed