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Canine Temperament Test Fail 

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September 21, 2014
I had my husband record this so if we passed, we had it. However, if we failed, which we did, I would have the visual to see exactly where we needed to focus more on training.
Downside is, you're allowed to take the test twice and that's it. We failed once. If we take it again, it's pass or fail - end of story. Temperament tests are so few and far between, it's unknown at this point if we would take it again. If we do, I hope we pass. The only real lack was his refusal in going over the wire footing.
The test is structured in such a way to put more pressure on the dog as it goes. For this, we were told to NOT talk to the dog. The dog was allowed to do as they're going to do and I was merely an anchor point at the end of the leash.
WE HAVE SINCE PASSED A TEMPERAMENT TEST AFTER HE WAS MORE MATURE!!! You need to bear in mind, at this time, he was 18 months old and still very immature. Think teenage boy. That was him at this age. We went through this test just to get our feet wet and see how it went.
We did not fail because he was out of control. He refused to walk the grated surface and I don't blame him. I wouldn't have wanted to do that either. Please read comments if you have any further questions. I'll turn commenting back on when I have the ability to answer questions.
I simply posted this video so people could see they're not always roses and sunshine right off the bat, especially for a young intact male dog who is thinking more with his horomones than his actual brain. You are NOT supposed to train for this test.

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@loragdudley
@loragdudley 7 лет назад
I don't believe this is a temperament test. If he failed, it is obviously a training test. He's just not trained. I saw nothing wrong with his temperament. (The Lora Dudley person is not me and I can't get her off of here!)
@KZoppa
@KZoppa 7 лет назад
Ideally they don't want dogs going through the test who have been trained for it. It's a test designed to increase difficulty and test the dog on reactions to certain stimuli. Its meant to test reactions. In this case, he just wasn't mature enough but has since passed a Temperament Test and a CGC.
@chizoioioi
@chizoioioi 7 лет назад
What is the point of the wire footing test. You want to test how willing a dog will walk over uncomfortable wire when he could step aside and walk on regular ground.
@KZoppa
@KZoppa 7 лет назад
chizoioioi it's about testing the dogs on change in footing. same as walking across the tarp that makes noise. how do they do walking over something that changes.
@SouthBuffaloG1
@SouthBuffaloG1 9 лет назад
I don't understand why or how this determines a GSD's temperament. The dog appeared people friendly as he readily allowed the one guy to pet him. He seemed very curious of his surroundings more so than interested in the woman leading him around. I do not understand how walking through wire mesh determines temperament. Please explain.
@KZoppa
@KZoppa 9 лет назад
SouthBuffaloG1 it's used to determine how they handle unusual footing. A soft dog will not pass. The issue here, if I probably took him through the test before he was mature enough to understand it better. This is my dog. He was a little over 18 months old when we did this. Were we to retake the test, he would be fine with the footing at this point. It was something I hadn't worked with him on beforehand because of a lack of ability to do so. Had he walked across the grating, he would have passed this test. We are only able to test one more time and after that, we're blocked from it. No tests nearby are scheduled.
@coleenannis9094
@coleenannis9094 8 лет назад
he did great, it is obvious that he is rock solid. If anything I would have wanted him to alert more on the unfriendly stranger but he looked thirsty :) I'm pretty sure a female in heat passed thru that course before you did haha :) All he needs is grate practice and you got this.
@KZoppa
@KZoppa 8 лет назад
Sophia Larkspur When we did this one, he was only about a year and half and still very immature. He has since passed a temperament test with GSD Club of Washington and has the certificate from GSD Club of America as a result. He's used to more active trials so hadn't figured out how to process what we were doing at the time.
@TinaJackson
@TinaJackson 7 лет назад
He has to greet without being excited and not jumping up. I'm surprised they passed him on that. Walking on mesh is something you would come across in the city and the like.
@KZoppa
@KZoppa 7 лет назад
He has since passed :)
@senoratopo9377
@senoratopo9377 7 лет назад
Congratulations kz, that the 2 of you have passed since. Wasn't so hard was it, a little more maturity on his part. How old was he when he did pass?Happy training!
@KZoppa
@KZoppa 7 лет назад
diane loya he was about 3 when he passed. He definitely matured a lot between this test and the passing one. Only about a year and a half between tests but that was more due to time and test availability.
@wren6331
@wren6331 9 лет назад
It's a temperament test. It's supposed to test the dog's innate temperament. The less training the better. It's definitely not something you train for.
@bonvilledogtraining
@bonvilledogtraining 9 лет назад
Wren Sounds silly! Looked like an excellent dog to me!.. I have needed to teach every dog I have ever owned to be comfortable walking over a grating. Number one -- walk over the grating yourself,
@wren6331
@wren6331 9 лет назад
EJ Haskins It's a TEMPERAMENT test. If you want to test basic training, try a CGC. atts.org/frequently-asked-questions/ See item 6: 6. What, if any, preparation does my dog need? No special training beyond normal socialization and exposure to normal living is necessary. Should a dog be socialized to walk on uneven footing? Of course. They should learn that as a puppy. But you do not TRAIN to have correct temperament. Are you seeing the distinction?
@bonvilledogtraining
@bonvilledogtraining 9 лет назад
Wren NO! An indication of temperament would show up DURING the training. Timid dogs simply take longer to be at ease with new things. Though even this will be affected by how many new things the dog was exposed to from puppyhood. Think “kennelosis”. And ‘training’ is happening the whole time. You talk about “normal socialization and exposure to normal living” without defining what you consider ‘normal’. I would expect that being prepared to walk over a grating was ‘normal living’ for a city dog, but pretty rare (except for cattle gratings) for a country dog. A normal country dog would do exactly as your dog did - you walked around the grating, therefore your dog did too. Sign of intelligence, really.
@bonvilledogtraining
@bonvilledogtraining 9 лет назад
EJ Haskins As I suspect that URLs are not permitted here, I suggest that you look up/Google for: "Socialisation and other critical periods' by 'best behaviour.com.and "Problem behaviour I dogs, Understanding the shy dog" Campbell
@bonvilledogtraining
@bonvilledogtraining 9 лет назад
Wren I am a qualified CGC Instructor (though now retired). So I am not talking of 'training' obedience type thingies. I am talking about normal socialisation to both the living and non-living environment.
@tthedoglady9444
@tthedoglady9444 8 лет назад
That's how my German Shepherd can be meaning sniffing, not focusing on me, pulling, not walking on the left side just going back and forth. If you have any tips on working on these things because I want to do AKC & UKC Rally & AKC Obedience trials to show I do work my dog but we just have to get pass this stage or whatever for fixing this. TY
@KZoppa
@KZoppa 8 лет назад
Hi! If you'd like to contact me on my facebook page, I can give you some tips! facebook.com/KrystalZDogTraining/ You can also check out my website www.KrystalZDogTraining.weebly.com Far as tips go, I started with luring and rewarding for being where I wanted him to be. Every now and then I'd have to throw in some directional changes when he wasn't paying attention before he started to be more reliable in walking next to me. Hopefully next Rally Trial we do, I can get someone to record our run. He's not perfect but he gets the job done.
@tthedoglady9444
@tthedoglady9444 8 лет назад
+KZoppa okay Thank you! I'll check it out tomorrow, I'll defiantly email you soon!
@KZoppa
@KZoppa 8 лет назад
Sounds good!
@gouldk9training26
@gouldk9training26 7 лет назад
Why isn't anything structured? What specific "temperament test" was this for? I don't know the parameters for this "test" but honestly, I would have failed you too. Gorgeous dog with SO much potential it seems, but you need a lot of work. Keep it up! What sorts of tools do you use for prepping and training for an event like this?
@gouldk9training26
@gouldk9training26 7 лет назад
I wouldn't have failed you for temperament, more for lack of control. Temperament look stable
@KZoppa
@KZoppa 7 лет назад
Megan Gould please look up requirements for the American temperament test society. You're not supposed to train for the test. the instructor specifically told us at the beginner to let the dog just do what he's going to do. at this time he was 18 months old. We have since passed a temperament test. This is NOT the CGC so testing is different.
@KZoppa
@KZoppa 7 лет назад
I also want to point out that he was a young dog who had just finish running in his favorite event ever. His training is fine but he was young when we did this. We only failed the test because he refused to go across the grating. They don't want you training for this test because it's designed to put more pressure on the dog. It's to check for a solid temperament. Lack of control had nothing to do with it. I was told to allow the dog to do his thing and not correct or guide him in any way. You can train a fearful dog to tolerate the elements presented but it's not a true representation of the temperament. There were several other breeds there. My husband simply recorded mine. My dog is now 4 years old, has passed a temperament test, CGC, CGCA, Rally Advanced and working towards Rally Excellent, he's passed several other "title" events and will soon complete a coursing ability advanced 2 title. Again, control was not the issue. I went through the test for the experience. I took a young dog through, followed the directions given and got the experience. If you're curious about where he's at now as far as his "test" as you put it, these are his current titles - CAX, CGCA, ETD, HCT, NCO-1, PKD-T, RATI, RATN, RA, TC If you're curious about the testing elements, you can read about them here. atts.org/tt-test-description/ We have passed the exact same test through the GSD club of Washington which is a branch of the GSD club of the US. The elements are the same, the title is the only different as ATTS would be a TT wherea the GSD club is TC. He's my first well bred dog and we basically hit the ground running. Until he was almost 3, he was VERY immature which is to be expected with the breed and particular lineage. At this point in our life, we were really just getting our feet wet and seeing what it was like.
@KZoppa
@KZoppa 7 лет назад
His temperament is rock solid. He was just a typical doofus intact male.
@emmanuelc2216
@emmanuelc2216 7 лет назад
What is the pale with (stones?) all about? And the gun?? What kind of measuremnt is this when it comes to temperament? Thank you! From philippines..
@KZoppa
@KZoppa 7 лет назад
pol you I'm not sure what stone you're referring to but the gunshot is designed to surprise the dock and test their reaction and recovery to the noise. If they are startled and don't recover and continue to act fearfully, it can be a temperament issue. If they recover quickly and want to investigate, it's usually a good sign.
@KZoppa
@KZoppa 7 лет назад
pol you the bucket? is that what you're talking about? if so, that part of the test is again designed to test the dogs startle reaction and desire to investigate or to avoid it. if they avoid altogether, it's a sign of weaker temperament by test standards. if they want to investigate, it's good.
@emmanuelc2216
@emmanuelc2216 7 лет назад
Same also for the umbrella? Thank you for the quick response..!😊
@KZoppa
@KZoppa 7 лет назад
pol you yes. the way the test is designed, each step gradually puts more and more pressure on the dogs to test how they handle different stresses that gradually increase in what the dog would consider a potential threat.
@TinaJackson
@TinaJackson 7 лет назад
The talking is distracting. I couldn't watch. It'd be easier if whoever was filming actually followed along and explained what was going on while filming it.
@KZoppa
@KZoppa 7 лет назад
It was a test that allowed spectators. The talking is also not consistent through the whole video. The person filming is also not involved in the dog world except for what I drag him to so he had no real idea what was going on except he was there to record for me. The test elements are really easy to look up as well as they're pretty universal unless you're going for a BH before IPO titles.
@Yosonny
@Yosonny 7 лет назад
Why isn't he heeling without a leash? My shepard at 13 months wouldn't leave my side unless instructed. Good luck
@KZoppa
@KZoppa 7 лет назад
Because that's not how the test is done. It's not a BH. It's just a temperament test. Similar to a CGC - done on leash.
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