Canon C70 vs Blackmagic BMPCC Pocket 6k Pro | $2,500 vs $5,500 

Thanks so much Xavier!

That's a solid option for sure! I've been really happy with the pocket 6k pro. If you don't need autofocus, 10 stops of ND, or really care about the speedbooster then the pocket 6k pro can't be beat!

i feel like c70 is a great camera for doc, events, and run n gun. i think canon does not market their sub $7500 cameras (c200 era prices) for film making or studio production much. Of course it is capable in the right hands but missing some flexibility and conveniences. the fact they left off raw and sdi completely shows that.

@@RayValdezPhotography Run & gun... events... docs only? You only have to look back a few years ago to a guy who shot a self-financed feature movie on the C300 ( only 1080! No raw ! ) and got a 3 picture deal out of it. There is more to 'filmmaking' than the sensor and pulling shadows. There is sound design, location, talent, script, lighting, costume, makeup, literally so many things. Here's the film I'm speaking of- it's called BLUE RUIN and it's amazing. In fact, the guy could have rented a 'better' camera back then, but he chose (I read in an interview) to put that extra money into all the things I listed. Here's the link to the trailer: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qYpuju1NGdA.html

the biggest issue with pcc series is their reliability, and c70's dgo sensor is the smae one as c300m3, as it also pairs with arri camers with better color and dynamic range, that's why c70 is priced this way, is using a sensor from 11000 dollars c300 m3, it is actually a deal instead of an overpriced product if you know cinema cameras.

@@RayValdezPhotography the biggest issue with pcc series is their reliability, and c70's dgo sensor is the smae one as c300m3, as it also pairs with arri camers with better color and dynamic range, that's why c70 is priced this way, is using a sensor from 11000 dollars c300 m3, it is actually a deal instead of an overpriced product if you know cinema cameras, and buy the way now it has raw, and pcc doesn't have sdi built in either, the value of the sensor is more important than the feature sometimes, especially you are choosing a b cam

Thanks for watching! The c200 is still a beast. We use 4 of them in our studio currently, as well as 2 c70's for run and gun shooting. Thanks for watching!

@@GriffinConway Interesting to hear you say you still use your c200 in the studio. I'm still trying to decide what Cinema cameras to get. I do a lot of my filming in my studio or on location with tripods. What's your reasoning for still using your c200 in the studio? Also when you use them in the studio are you shooting in raw or some other codec?

Thanks for watching Edward! Appreciate it bro!

Ya the 6k pros are such great cameras! And you can’t beat them for the price for sure

Awesome Tanner! Hit me up with any more questions bro, happy to help!

Thank you! That's what I like in comparison videos as well!

Thanks for watching bro! I know you have been between these two cameras. Hope this helps! Good news is either one is great

Thank you for watching!

Thanks so much Axel! Really appreciate that!

Nice! Which one are you leaning towards?

Totally agree. It’s a great camera and the best by a long shot at that price point

Thanks so much Matt!

Have you had any issues with purple flares with the speed booster?

@@CarloTeofilo I havent, but the speedster does tend to flare a bit.

That's awesome Fraser! You will love it! Are you getting the speedbooster too? It's honestly such a good match between the two

@@GriffinConway ya since I only have EF lens and want to match the full frame look. Ordered the 50mm 1.4. hoping it matches the L 35 and 85, but we shall see if I should have went 1.2!

@@frasermacmannis614 I have the 1.2 and have used the 1.4...unfortunately neither are a perfect match for sharpeners and contrast to the 35 1.4 ii and 85 1.4 is...but both will be a decent match

Took the words right out of my brain!!!

Thanks so much for watching Joshua! Glad you enjoyed it.

yup just yesterday i was hoping that someone would make this video!! awesome!

Thanks Paul!

haha thats awesome! How long ago did you move to the east coast?

@@GriffinConway last year right before Covid 🙃 so restarting with a pandemic was rough. Couldn’t even fly back for my old clients. I still am flying back for some work, have a review to film July but I’m going into OC and leaving for Yosemite the next morning.

@@GriffinConway I was thinking the same thing - we watch the boat parade from that park!

Thanks a lot! I try to not play too much in to the "youtube hype" haha...Glad you liked it!

Thanks Dave! If you don’t need AF and don’t care about the speedbooster “full frame” look, then the 6k pro is a no brainer for sure

Thanks so much! I totally agree they are all getting so good now!

Thanks so much Luke!

Thank you!

Thanks Justin!

Thank you!

Glad it was helpful! They are both great options. If it’s possible, renting them for a day can be a great way to figure out your preferences!

@@GriffinConway Considering the investment, I will definitely try renting them. Especially the C70 since I'm pretty familiar with working with BRAW, etc. The clean shadows in underexposed shots from the C70 is quite impressive. Anyway. Thanks again.

@@AllThingsFilm1 Now that the C70 shoots RAW, I’m curious to know, how do BRAW files from a BMPCC4K compare to Canon Cinema Raw Lite files for the C70, I’m terms of file sizes? Curious also which is easier to work with, BRAW or Canon Cinema Raw Lite?

Totally agree! I've been really impressed with it so far

personally, for me it depends on my bank account. Love both cameras, can only afford one.

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@@babushka_boy fancy seeing you here 🧐

Im planning doing this with my 6K which is on its way. Is it a really good camera for street documentaries and going out seeing what you capture? Im really looking forward to having in my hand

Thanks a lot Fabian!

I think that would be a great combo!

Ya the 6k pro is a beast! It was Newport Beach....close though!

Hahahahah dude I feel this. How are the images from the 6k and the ursa matching? Pretty much the same?

Thank you Mark!

Thank you Mike!

Agreed! Best value for that price point for sure

Lots of good options out there, and the pocket 6k pro is really solid! Glad you are loving it

What iso did you shoot at? 800/1000 for day light and lowlight and 1250 max for low light is recommended I believe. Edited

@@colinthomas2525 I use 400 for daylight and in low light I may use 800. I never go all the way to 3200, but I've discovered, now using it for more than a year that the pocket 6K Pro isn't bad at all in low light conditions!

@@topicruben watch the video I link for the best way to shoot the pocket 6k with no noise. Matteo Bertoli shoots beautiful footage and never has a problem with noise. Also he never overexposes but slightly underexposes and then lifts shadows if needed. It’s worth a watch. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5-FVNKpvKmU.html

It does have noise for sure but I actually can’t believe how well it disappears with Neat Video plugin. Like, completely clean. It must be the type of noise it presents.

Thanks for watching!

😂😂

well I'm still on a GH4 and have shot lots of day to night shots by underexposing and only when its already dusk, noise becomes a problem.

Did you find the AF to be reliable in a variety of lighting and moving-subject scenarios?

Yes, the reception area was a very dark room with bright sunlight occasionally blasting in through one row of windows on the far side. Once again, the auto focus did a great job on things like tracking people in the bridal party, switching to the next person rapidly and smoothly as they walked by. Nothing still beats Sony for super dark conditions, but you really have to ask yourself how often you are going to be shooting that way and if great improvements by other brands are good enough 90 pc of the time. Will be sticking to renting until I see the sum total of everything Canon releases through the rest of the year. Might rent an FX3 next just to play with the latest Sony tech a little and try it out, really want to compare color grading efforts and results. RF lenses were fantastic as well, but quite a $$$$ commitment. Want to test more of my EFs with the adapter next time too around auto-focus and handling.

Thanks for watching!

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching Jonathan!

Thanks for watching Tony!

i LOVE MY 6K PRO the best camera ever the image quality really can’t be beat idc I like it more then I like Red and Arri the colors are just something else I plan on producing a few short films with it very soon it’s definitely a Cinema camera

Glad you enjoyed it!

The 6k pro is really such a good camera, especially at that price point!

@@GriffinConway Update: Got the 6K Pro. Stoked! Right after I ordered, firmware 7.3 was released, which was perfect timing.

@@GearZenChannel that’s awesome congrats! How are you liking it so far?

Thanks Robert!

Thanks for watching!

Glad it was helpful Dan!

The pocket 6k pro is a great camera. Occasionally I have clients that ask me to shoot on Red, but usually I find the ones that ask for it usually have budget for rentals to go with it. Tough to beat that 6k pro image for the price though!

the 6k pro is also ef mount

Thank you!

Thanks for watching! Glad you are loving the C70!

Thank you!

I agree! Thanks for watching!

Thanks for watching!

I agree, autofocus is really the only thing holding this camera back for some people. Both cameras are great for sure

@@GriffinConway any idea why BM has not added AF to their cameras? Seems to be a no brainer to me anyway …

Totally agree, and then menus and image is great on the pocket 6k pro. And that’s funny about the accent 😂

Totally agree! That’s all that’s missing

That’s a great option as well, and arguably the best hybrid out right now. Are you already invested in any of the lenses?

My whole team is in premiere and we share projects and assets. When we send projects to color they do them in resolve though

The 6K Pro is even simpler when you use ProRes. BRAW takes more work but it is better than most other RAW codecs.

In my opinion they are both equally simple and easy to work with. The c70 plays back a little smoother in premiere, but in resolve they are both great

RU-vid compression is never great. Also changes depending on your browser, and also how the screen is calibrated (iPhones for example are notoriously contrasty)

Thank you!

Ya the c70 shooting experience is hard to beat!

Do you need autofocus? If not I would personally go for the pocket 6k pro since it will be a perfect match for the 6k. I would love to try out an S1/S1H at some point, but I don't have one and I don't have any friends with one right now.

@@GriffinConway actually I need a good IBIS . Autofocus is not a big deal but for handheld shooting a good IBIS would be great. I hate using Gimbal and setting up a Bmpcc on gimbal is even more time consuming specially with a heavy lens like Sigma 18-35. It gets so tiring that one usually miss' the moment. With handheld it feels more organic. That's the only reason I was leaning towards S1 as of now. (And the rumors of Gh6 makes me wait a little more). Crazy times where we are having camera releases so fast that we are spoilt with too many options I guess. . But then 6k pro with built in Nd filters and Tilt screen monitor with 1500 nits and a superb battery grip is so alluring.

@Ketan O Rana I bought a used S1 and the IBIS is fantastic. I'm the same, I don't like gimbals. Bmpcc6k is definitely alluring.

@@roscosart1888 yes, plus the new firmware update has converted s1 almost into S1H.