Conspiracy conspiracy Mr Undone!… I reckon Canon only paid you, for you to SAY they paid you… when in fact they know they didn't pay you, even though in reality they did… Errrrr
I really like this review. So many others are 1) just noise & 2) compare every new camera to the best hypothetical camera, taking the best traits of everything out there, and criticize every new camera for not having everything the best camera has. If it did, it would be called, “camera,” and there would only be one company making “camera.” Competition & innovation are the best for consumers. I mean, they act like no human being has ever been able to take photos with a camera before the latest camera came out. Thanks for pointing out these features!
Gerald Undone I’m curious about the data rate of the EOS R, 480Mb/s seems like great quality on paper. Have you compared it to GH5 400Mb/s in 8bit? In theory, it should be cleaner, with no artifacting (like Sony mirrorless), but I suspect it doesn’t compete with GH5/GH5s. Maybe the 8bit still has artifacts or maybe the EOS R with recorder 10bit ProRes competes? I’m guessing 2019’s Canon 5R will replace the 5D iv with every feature missing from the EOS R & 2020’s Canon 1RX will replace the 1DX. I’m still. it sure would ever release a video-centric mirrorless, like the Panasonic S1 or the a7siii. Canon previously released their 8k sensor; I just think everyone else will release their 6k & 8k mirrorless & mini cinema cameras first. The EOS R is a mirrorless 6Diii, & a great upgrade from 6Dii and 5Diii; although I’m still on the fence. Fuji XT3 has stolen my heart though (for video); FF 30Mp vs APS-C 26Mp (for photography) :/ (Can I wait 3months for Panasonic to release their full specs? (Why I don’t sleep). Solution: Make more money, buy everything.
It's refreshing to see someone focussing on the positive sides of a product. It is way easier for all of us to just bash on the things we dislike and there are more than enough of those videos out there. Keep it up!
I'd agree with Randy's sentiments. It seemed well thought out and it's great to hear about some of the lesser known features of the camera. Keep up the good work. My only suggestion, if I can make one, is that I'd alter your intro's and drop the "he's crazy" wording. You're obviously a smart, switched on guy, who comes across well, so the whole "He's crazy" vibe is less whacky or edgy than it is a touch lazy. The video, the music, both fine, I'd just suggest putting a little more thought into some wording. Only my 2c though...
it's 3,000 higher now already. Nice. I've only just seen this channel. Subscribed but not sure how many I'll watch if they're all talking head stuff. Hopefully there's more content of this quality though.
I haven't found anybody who talks as fast and makes as much sense - you're message is always clear as a bell, that's a real talent. Thanks for jumping out in traffic and spreading this fair side of the R. Seems so many reviewers just want the camera their own way, and fail to mention the "other" people out there who are going to find this a very nice camera. The most important thing about this camera is that it is finally going down the road of mirrorless and the huge potential Canon's opening itself up to (along w/ the others) - and they did a very fine job of making a still camera for photography. And you just stated that and I thank you....
Amusing :) As an existing Canon DSLR owner, the adapter is an obvious big plus, if I bought into this range I don't have to throw away or trade my existing lens collection. The other thing I too really like is the manual focus arrows because "back in the day" of wetfilm, we got things like split rings as focus aids but nobody has come up with an equivalent in digital technology until now.
I don't think any system is worth changing into if you are already an established photographer with gear. It basically goes down to button placement, grip, and weight. Honestly I don't know why people nit pick about these things. As far as actual sensor performance goes. The Sony BSI sensors in the Sony and Nikon cameras are clearly superior but honestly not by much. I wouldn't lose sleep over it at all. Yes Canon doesn't have IBIS and that does kinda suck but once again I wouldn't sell glass over it. You can just use stabilized glass. However for new users or people who want to swap. The new Canon mirrorless offering is definitely the weakest of the bunch. The Sony A7III is still going to eat it for breakfast.
@@amphotography1746 do they ? Jolly good I think that it should be standard. I like having a "small system" camera kit alongside my DSLRs for those times when you don't want to haul heavy kit, over 18 months I used first a Lumix G7 and then upgraded to a G80/85, I also have some vintage glass from the wet film era which I use with adapters, obviosly. The only aid you get is focus peaking and I was surprised to find that this was far better on the Canon M series than the Panasonics so I traded that kit in and bought an M6 instead.
@@SourDonut99 Dear Ian, I think the point you make about new users and the Sony A7III still being the one to beat is absolutely right because for now it really is. Canon clearly hasn't got the processors currently to match and I think it will take them about 3 iterations to get to equal bearing in mind that Sony won't be standing still in the meantime. However and despite all the fuss, does it really matter ? Talking in UK £s, I really don't see £2,000 + for a body a "starter" camera, half that or less is most likely closer the mark. As to why "less than half price" it is simply that currently the most expensive phones which the majority of people use for photography are around £1,000 and the average punter will see them as more "useful" and flexible than a camera that only does one thing and isn't available with a calling plan thrown in for a set monthly amount. :)
Thank you! We really need more of these types of video. Too many ‘reviews’ these days are done with initial FW and about 3 days use of a camera, and are never updated over time with experience of small things which can make a huge difference in practical use.
I’ve had the 5D mark 4 and it’s super heavy and it’s 4K is so huge that you need special cards to be able to record well. It also didn’t have a flip screen, which makes it nearly impossible to film well when on a gimbal. I sold it and got me the EOS R. The best camera from Canon after the R5 and R6. It has so many new technology features that you won’t find in DSLRs. Also, I love the feature in the R when you can switch from video to photo while keeping the different settings. I hated to change all the settings again on the 5D when switching to video and vice versa.
Finally someone talks about features of the camera beyond the specs sheet. Your content comes from someone who have really used the camera to a length. Great video!
Thank you for such a fair and balanced video about the features that NO ONE is talking about. As a current Sony shooter, I am impressed with the manual focus guide on the EOS-R. Makes me jealous that Canon did it and not Sony. 😆 This is Canon’s first mirrorless body, so I’m sure they will improve upon it and maybe one day I’ll have both Canon and Sony systems. Competition is a beautiful thing for us consumers! Keep making the terrific videos and your subs should grow quickly! 👊🏽✌🏽
Thanks for the heads up on EF/EF-S compatibility with the adapter. I remember cutting the back off my 10-18mm when I realized I couldn't put it on my 5D3. It works extremely well with Magic Lantern where you're crop is sort of user-customizable.
Love that focus guide! It's way more practical than peaking on a small display. I wonder how they're achieving that guide in terms of precision and how "linear" the reference is to the movement of the focus ring on different lenses, because it would be so much easier to develop muscle memory once you get used to the lenses.
that far-near manual focus aid is really good. By seeing how jerky it is probably not very precise but in combination with peaking that enables when you're nearly focused that could be a beast
If you use the EVF, you don’t have to use the dpad to change the focus points, that’s just an option, but you could actually place your thumb on the screen while you’re looking through the EVF to change the focus points. No need for a joystick at all. Also the weird touchpad thing at the top could be programmed to do anything such as change ISO.
Thanks for the vid. There's some hate towards the EOS R, but those same haters don't talk about the positives of this camera. You have showed the positives better than anyone else on RU-vid. The EOS R is clearly a full frame camera that grows on people, especially rookie photographers like me.
Adding EF-S lenes are such a good value for this camera especially if you buy used . Totally agree with the focus box. The camera is infinitely customizable. I really enjoy shooting with it. I use the bar to zoom in for focus either manual or auto and the right side to set ISO to auto and I use the light display button to turn on WiFi.
I'm subbing. These are the types of info that I want. TBH, the big stuff are pointed out easily, but these small things, these are the things that make you want to work with a system. Of course, the key features/specs are the ones you're gonna look at first, but almost everyone is competing with that, everything that follows are these small features.
Just wanna say a big well done! Actually giving tips and insights that others are failing to give! Everyone just seems to be bashing the video “issues”, I’m buying a camera not a video camera, so thank you! You’ve earned a subscriber
I have several Zeiss EF lenses that I just love that are all manual focus, and some older Zeiss film lenses and even a couple old Nikon lenses with an adapter for Canon...another reason to buy this camera. The image quality with these new lenses is pretty much unbelievable.
I like this method of reviewing (what gets praised gets repeated), because if Canon scraps every good idea just because the market response rejects the whole package then they'll go back to being non-innovative, and I think they're at their best when they try and fail and stumble on something cool, like putting the ND filter BEHIND the lens so you don't have to buy one for each lens. It seems like if they offered what youtubers are asking for: Flippy screen, small body, 4k with no crop, mic input, two card slots, dual pixel autofocus, EF lens compatibility, and body for $1,000...that RU-vidrs would buy the crap out of that.
Canon has been milking the community. 3 out of every 5 cameras are the exact same thing and they haven't pushed mirrorless because they know the fan base will do it when they hype the next release. . My lumix films next to an a73 and 80D l. I have a 70d and never use
4:00 Meanwhile, Nikon users have always been able to use their crop lenses on their full frame bodies... But the triangle focus system you describe right after looks amazing! Reminds me of the old split prism from my K-1000, upgraded for the digital age.
Another tip almost nobody talks about: When using crop lenses on the EOS R, you are limited to 12 megapixels in photo mode and 50 fps/60 fps is not available in the camera.
If you use an adapter to mount an APS-C crop lens like the EF-S 10-22, the camera will automatically turn into a 11.6 megapixel (4176x2784) crop camera. Small detail before you rush buying apc lenses to get that "better image quality" :)
Yes, with the EOS R and the adapter, the Canon APS-C lenses can be used on the full frame (FF) body. Nikon and Sony both have full frame and APS-C lenses. The difference is that their APS-C lenses could always be used on their FF bodies. Canon had the restriction because the mirror in the FF DSLR could hit the back element of an EF-S lens. With a Canon *mirrorless* body, that issue is removed.
I don't think I'm getting this camera regardless, but I do think you have created an amazing video and made an excellent point about the positive reinforcement to the companies
just tested this camera today. Pure joy to use, so easy and a breeze to set up and take pictures. Very responsive and an excellent EVF. However, I just felt that it's tad bit slow in shutter response, compared to what we are used to now in camera of this price range. Knowing what Canon is capable of, I just felt that this is just a testing model for something more finished and "pro" waiting in line. All said and done, this is still an EXTREMELY CAPABLE camera and the new lens is DIVINE. Thats the only word to describe it. The resolution it renders, and the colors are so so so good plain out of the box. Feel like a cut from Arri Alexa.
Excellent Video. Manual Focus guide is excellent. Now people like me with old eyes can accurately manually focus without having to rely on magical pixie dust. Deeper customization of the display screens so I can control what information I want to see, and low price adapters that will work for all existing EF lenses. This is what a review is suppose to be. Instead of just saying what something can not do, mention positives and maybe other camera companies will say, "Hey, people like that feature in Canon, (or any other brand), maybe we should do it". Keep up your great work.
That focus guide you highlighted is excellent for on gimbal usage set your distance and walk into it - much better than peaking more intuitive. I just wish they'd do a firmware update and put 120fps in full HD. I'm a Nikon shooter but if they did that Id buy the R.
You can also use the touch screen as a sort of joystick while looking through the VF by dragging your finger on the corner of the screen and choosing your focus.
Two things: if you use an EF-S lens, it brings the resolution down to 10mp - which I think you gloss over too quickly. Second thing, which is more a question... using the d-pad for focus point is well and good, but my M5 can be set to use the screen as an AF trackpad while looking through the EVF (which I find way more useful than trying to use the d-pad). Is this functionality absent from the EOS-R? Thanks for a unique and positive perspective, and not the constant whining that other reviewers have done.
There is also touch pad focusing on the EOS R while using the EVF. I mentioned this as an alternative to that, because some people don't like it. E.g. Left-handed people.
Finally a review not only bashing the eosr but also talking about good points. And honestly, it's the first one that even mentions stills. All the rest i saw yet were only about video. Which I do not care about whatsoever. I'm only interested in the photography capability so I'm not bothered with some crop on 4k video
You didn't mention Touch and Drag AF on the EOS R. When your face is against the viewfinder you can designate any corner or side of the screen you wish to remain sensitive for moving your auto focus point. This can be done in absolute, which I don't like because you can't easily go to the other side of the frame. Or, it can function more like a traditional joystick and is very responsive. On the M5 and M50 I found this to be very easy to get comfortable with in lieu of a proper joystick.
@@sulev111 mines simply has a little dot on the lower left corner of my of that isn't always accurate but harder to notice. Many cameras have different styles that I'm aware of. Just thought this one on the EOS r just might be the easiest way to tell that is right on top of what you're focusing on, rather than some obscure indicator off to the side somewhere. Fuji has also come out with a cool retro focus prism. A lot of interesting options.
I always liked my EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 IS, though I never shot 4K through it. I would never punish myself by buying an EOS R for video work, but for those that want to lessen the pain, that's not a bad lens to give you IS with.
Enjoy cheap wide angle canon lenses while your still on a crop sensor. When I made the upgrade to full frame, I was surprised how expensive wide angle lenses were. Bought a 16-35mm as my first wide angle full frame lense.
I know this is an old video but thought it's worth mentioning. You can use the touch screen to move the focus even while your eye is on the viewfinder and watch it move from there. You don't have to use the d-pad.
Great and refreshing coverage on the topic! And found some new useful settings as well! Focus point can be moved also with the top dials, after pushing the AF mode button. Dials are a lot faster than the four directional buttons.
D pad to move your focus point? You can use the touch screen by setting the bottom right to control your focus point. You just move your thumb around while looking through the view finder.
Gerald! Just found your videos last week, they’re awesome, a breath of fresh air. Love your level-headed and alternative angle on this one. Useful info beautifully demoed. Stay classy 👍
One of the best overviews that really answers a lot of questions I had as I'm seriously considering jumping to the EOS R. Love the fact that you're not YELLING AT MEEE like other reviewers, nice and calm delivery of information. Nice presentation as well. You got yourself a new sub!
Thanks for the video! This is the camera I’ve been waiting for to jump over into full frame with. A camera I can use my whole lens collection with! I don’t shoot video so the video short comings don’t matter to me, but it has some terrific features for stills. Automatically cropping when an EF-S lens is attached, a shutter closing to protect the sensor when changing lenses, the feel of an actual DSLR with the benefits mirrorless, and of course the manual focus helps you mentioned which will be great for macro photography.
The manual focus assist feature on the EOS R is nice in how comprehensive it is as a focus aid. I'm jealous! The adapter mounting both EF and EF-S lenses is convenient for the EOS R video. For other companies, specifically Nikon with FX/DX and Sony with FE/E lenses, the full frame cameras have always been able to mount the APS-C lenses. Canon had the restriction, I believe because the EF-S lens would get too close to the full frame mirror, so obviously the mirrorless camera can drop the restriction.
Thanks for your thoughts on the EOS R. To set the focus point, there is a third possibility, next to the Touchscreen and the D-Pad, you can use the two command dials. Again, first press the focussing system button, then you can use the two dials on the top of the camera. One moves the focus point horizontally, the other one vertically. After getting used to it, this works quite fast, even with gloves…
Nice. I’ve been saying the same thing about EF-S lenses and the RP body. I feel like people aren’t recognizing how valuable that is. When I started shouting on a rebel I gathered a few EFS lenses then when I moved to full frame that crop sensor kit mostly collected dust. Now that I’ve got the RP I’m using my 10-18 again and my little 24mm F2.8... I primarily shoot portraits so in the 85-135 range I have more serious lenses and the RP steps up just fine for basic portraiture, but slap on an EFS and it’s a fun little vloggy travelly camera. I really think that’s why canon made the RP, was not to compete with Sony but as a sort of “bus to the future” to entice and gather all of the rebel users and move them to RF. I also think they did a horrible job marketing it because nobody seems to understand that value you speak of. I’m actually buying an EOS R today and downgrading the RP to my backup because I kiss the robust feel of my 5Diii and want a little bit more substantial feeling camera, but pretty much everything you’ve named here is what made me sell my DSLR’s. I wasn’t willing to do that for Sony, even with their enticing features, because a whole system jump is huge and scary, but canon made mirrorless sooo seamless for almost every previous canon user- EF or EF-S.
Nicely done and insightful. You have a oddly metronome like delivery that is relaxing but engaging. Ignore the haters that say you speak too fast. Pfft.
Woah.. The screen INFO settings blew my mind.. I immediately picked up my Mark IV to check if it had the same menu and it does! (though it's called something different). Being able to customize that just potentially changed my life when it comes to the live view display. Cheers!
Sony user speaking here. Good job on the video sir! You got me to watch to the end. I thought you brought up some very good things that are being missed that I didn’t know about. It’s just such a shame that the camera isn’t where it should be in terms of usability, practicality, and positives. But I do like the point on the lenses being manual vs fly by wire.
Yeah, it's tough. I definitely prefer my a7 III, but Canon is on the right path in a few ways. Hopefully they keep pushing and provide some better competition for Sony in the future.
Hey Gerald, things I think no one has done well yet of this versus the a7 series, *Low light video comparisons, *thorough slow motion tests, *ease of hybrid shoot
Good Video, I really wasnt aware of that, cause nobody was speaking of it. Nice one and I like the Video cause is not too long. Cheers, continue like this
Man, love your style and perspective. This was like a fresh breath of air for me amidst all the... *ahem* ...polarised opinions one finds in youtube comment sections. I fully agree with your idea of letting companies know when they've done something good. Let's also use the same logic and give you a thumbs up and a new subscriber for this content. Cheers from Finland!
I liked. I subscribed! Refreshing approach. I’ll be checking out previous videos and glad your channel was a suggested view on the RU-vid sidebar banner !
Call me an armature but that focus assist tool plus flipy screen plus full HDMI are deal makers over other full frame cameras. THEY MAKE WORKFLOW EASIER!
I would prefer focus peaking more than that focus feature from Canon, with focus peaking you see the entire image in focus and you don't have to worry about getting the focus in a small box because sometimes the focus points will move and it won't be fun moving around that box to find the focus. I like Panasonic cameras more because they are more for photo and video, something Canon aren't really doing as well.
Thanks for another excellent video. Like your other videos I found that this one covers things that aren't typically covered by other reviewers. The manual focus aid seems particularly interesting. I don't think there are adapters available yet for old-timey manual lenses, so I'm not sure if that feature will work with those lenses, but if it does that could make this a really nice platform for those lenses.
You can use the touchscreen in liveview, but you can also use it as a sort of touchpad when you're using the EVF. That's a lot faster and easier than using the D-pad.
Great video, I’ve used this camera briefly at a friends house. From what I remember you can select the focus point using your finger on the screen whilst looking through the EVF. Handy to know you can select the focus point using the D-Pad
I am somebody very tempted by the 6Dii but would prefer a modern mirrorless alternative from Canon. As you say Gerald this is it, but there is currently $1000 price difference between the two models. For people like me that is huge, and I'm afraid it means sticking with the dinosaur DSLR.
I love the manual focus box as well, and the focus peaking is great. I mentioned those things as some of my favorites features of the EOS R in my review. Nice video, I like your style Gerald.
Thank you for this (long after the fact)! Useful information, for a camera that is actually very convenient to use, and actually makes some really nice image quality.
Awesome vid man. I'm glad you brought up some of the features a lot of others have forgot to mention. Thanks! Nice to see a fellow steinberg user also!
I wanted to buy this camera, but was hesitant because it's the first generation of Canon's full frame mirrorless cameras... since the price is getting cheaper, I will be buying it soon. Your videos are informative and help with my decisions. Thank you for sharing... Keep doing that, Gerald Undone!
So the EOS-R comes with a built-in Atari game... :P Nice review, u deserve way more views and followers 👍🏻 the XT3 has a sweet octagon prism kinda weird name for a manual focus but seems interesting, like retro cameras
Ha. Exactly! Thanks, mate. And yeah, I've used that function on the X-T3. I personally didn't find it that useful, but I see what they were going for. Reminded me of film cameras a bit.
I thought that those two methods sounded similar, too. Gerald, I wondered if you could you expand on why the Fuji prisming doesn't seem that useful, yet the Green Arrow(tm) does? :) P.S. I'm also very interested in any info on manual focus with the upcoming L-mount cameras (in due time, of course;)
Question.. on the EOS R, is there a way to set the EVF so that it acts like a regular viewfinder? Here is what I mean.. Let's say I want to underexpose the background a ton, and I am using a bunch of off camera flashes etc.. I need to be able to see, and focus on my model.. on the Sony camera's there is a setting to turn off live preview in the EVF. I just got my EOS R, and I can't seem to find a way to do this?
I know exactly what you mean. I don't have the EOS R with me anymore, but I believe it was called "Expo. Simulation" Try around page 3 of the first, red-coloured shoot menu. Hopefully that helps!
The focus features are awesome, I love the focus peaking too, despite it only seemingly being available when the lens is in manual focus mode - for native lens the's an excellent feature where the focus point is zoomed after focusing so you can manually tweak the focus, this is also amazingly useful for macro/close-up work. One thing that was not obvious to me, is that when you put an EF-S lens on the body, it will still be a cropped/EF-S lens and your pictures will be lower resolution. You will not get a full-frame 30mp image at 17mm and f/2.8 on an EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 IS lens, for example, it will become a ~18mp 27mm f/~4 equivalent. This caught me out, I was expecting to get a super fast f/2.8 17mm lens from my old EF-S lens.
The Sigma 18-35mm lens works for stills as well from 24-35mm. Below 24mm it doesn't cover the sensor and you get a big black circle around the frame. 24-35mm isn't much of a zoom range, but if you own it already then keep it.
