Disagree. They say "invest in glass" because they are professionals and have used both high-end bodies AND lenses. And they truly feel if you are going to invest money into upgrading gear, it's more important to focus on good glass. You can have an R3 but if you are using a cheap lens, you will get crap pics. Plus good glass holds its value.
If you spend $5,000.00 today on a good pro lens, in eight years you will be able to sell it for $4,500.00. Maybe more than you paid for it if inflation has driven up the price of a new one. If you spend $5,000.00 today on a pro camera, in eight years it will be obsolete and you will be lucky to get $1,500.00. And that's assuming normal times, not when they do something funky, like come out with mirrorless! Then your camera REALLY takes a hit! That's language anyone can understand. So, if you need both and have a limited budget, buy a used camera (you can get a heck of a deal on used DSLRS right now, because everyone is trading them in for mirrorless), and spend your real money on glass. Note: In this "unusual" time DSLR glass also took a hit, but not nearly like cameras. Glass is glass, for a long time. I can still use twenty year old DSLR glass on a modern mirrorless camera with an adapter. It's still great glass. But a twenty year old camera is worthless. No one wants a Canon 1d today!! But a first generation Canon 600 f4L?? Heavy beast, but still takes great shots and will work with your R3!
After 6 years doing photography starting with canon sl2 I must say glass matters not the body. Now using a7riii with GM lenses and I’ll say it again I wish I invested in good lenses.
I’m using the glass from my first slr rebel 35mm film camera. These R series are very compelling compared to my dslr, rebel t3i i’m looking at a 16-35mm lens or the 11-24mm of my current camera ,similar price. That is why i am watching these comparisons.
I love my RP. Great little full frame camera which really encourages you to take photos. I’m not sure there is ever a ‘best’ choice, we all like different things. For me the RP is just a great camera which is under appreciated.
The RP is a brilliant little camera and far better than Jared realises. It has very accurate and competent autofocus, great low light performance and has more customisable buttons than the R6 (where the R6 has a rear dial, the RP has 4 customisable buttons which also act as a joypad).
@Paul Phillipson Yes, RP is a very good camera in terms of image quality and usability but in my opinion it is a bit on the slower side. But that doesn't matter in lots of situations like landscape, portrait, macro, ... And it is light and compact (like maybe Canon AE-1 or similar cameras). If it had cropped 4k with DPAF maybe it has been enough for me but ...: I need a 4k compatible camera to collect video samples (I am dreaming of a documetary movie!) so I stumbled over the R7 and I must say: A very capable package if you need speed, stability of freehand recordings, reliable movie AF + more reach with telephoto lenses. Finally I like both cameras very much and are glad to have access to both tools!
I think when you are testing high-end gear, to tend to be biased in terms of performance and quality. But when I show what I shot with my RP, my friends tend to be impressed because they almost see only smartphone photography nowadays. It's like buying an expensive microphone. You think you can tell the difference because you paid 2000€, but your audience may not.
This was by far one of the best comparison I've seen between the 3 cameras. I was dead set on the RP and after watching this review the R7 is the route I'm taking. 👌
Definately the better pick. I had and enjoyed the RP since release, but the R7 made me switch to APS-C back completely again, just a much better value as a hybrid camera. The thing is..... if i would not mind the better AF features for animals and 4k or slowmo video, i would still prefer the RP (better photography camera for less money)
You’ve helped me with my decision to stick with the RP despite the temptation to move to the R10. I photograph mostly stationary subjects; no need for faster FPS. The nice bokeh with the FF sensor is appreciated, too. Thanks for making your choice relevant to you and encouraging us to make our choices based on our needs and purposes. Mostly, though, thanks for promoting investing in good glass. I’ve added an EF 70-300 and an RF 50 with very satisfying results each.
I'd prefer the R10 because one thing to take into account is the high megapixel of the R7 means you need high resolving lenses. Not all EF lenses work well with it. The R10 doesnt have this issue and you dont have to worry about the lens "focus hunting" or getting shots that are not that sharp. The only thing I wish it had was weather sealing. I currently use and love an M50 I and II and have all the EF-M lenses and a bunch of EF lenses so no need to "upgrade" yet but id wait out for Canon to release an R10 with weather sealing. If not the R10 will eventually be my next step especially as a sports photographer
I have an RP and have been buying decent RF glass. I'm looking at moving up to the R6 and keeping the RP as a backup or hopefully having he wife become more interested and using it as a full frame introduction. The RP still takes good photos for what I have used it for and to be fair it will still hold its own against the R10 and R7 in many instances. In my opinion, a natural jump from the RP would be an R6, or even an R5 or R3, if you have the bucks. Great review. Keep them coming.
I think Jared, as a sports photographer, puts way more emphasis on shutter speed and how many frames a camera can shoot per second. If you are shooting things like portraits, landscapes, products and still photography, this really is a non issue, yet he almost belabors the fact that the RP doesn't do that well. Also, you have to take into account all of the drawbacks that come with a crop sensor that you don't have to deal with with a full frame lke crop factor. There's no free lunch.
All of the drawbacks including the *one* thing? Most of the historic drawbacks eg. low light and dynamic range don't apply to this conversation as the APS-C sensors are a generation newer. As for shutter speed - most of my photos are taken at 5-6 fps. My M6II can do 14 but only if I have a hummingbird outside my window do I kick it up into a faster mode. The RP however, can't even get out of it's own way. My old M6 Mk I could do 9 fps. Hell, my old M10 with contrast detect AF could do 4.6 fps. The RP is mostly unusable unless the subject isn't moving at all. With tracking AF it's FPS is from the early 2000's. I don't know the technical reason why it's so incredibly slow but I hope it wasn't intentional, it really crippled the camera.
These “drawbacks” as you call them are the same ones espoused but medium format photographers when 35mm was introduced. You’re talking out of your overly large posterior.
Can you tell me where you ordered/ got your R7? I’ve placed an order for one on Adorama, it’s on back order everywhere and I’m just curious how long it took you to get it.
I’ve gotten the R7 a while back and I’ve loved it since then. Coming from a T7 it’s nothing but a complete upgrade packed with features like the higher 32mp count compared to the 24 (which is still capable imo) and 4K up to 60fps. Even the R10 would have been a great choice to step up to but I am very happy with my R7 and recommend it for those with the budget
I’m a noob and just purchased the RP with a 35mm f1.8 macro. You almost have me convinced on swapping out for an R10 but if/when I upgrade to an R5 or alike I don’t want to invest in all new full frame glass. I love the RP and feel it’s a good starting point for me
It’s great starting point! Experiment with lenses, find focal lengths you love and then invest in good glass. Learn editing and basic composition ”rules”… get comfortable with using camera and enjoy your photography 👍 There will always be some better camera to upgrade, don’t bother yourself with that until you find that your camera is limiting you in some way…
For all the benefits of the newer tech in the R7/R10, the fact remains that the RP is a full frame camera. The better dynamic range and Image Quality is definitely better in the long run. Besides if you intend to upgrade to the R6 in the future, the RP is the better choice as they can share the lenses.
When you put the RF-S on an RF Full-frame camera, it should automatically switch to 1.6x crop mode (the same effect is obtained with an adapter for EF-S lenses to RF), this can also be done manually, if you turn off the 1,6x crop mode there will be a vignette.
I just did our Company employee pictures with the R10 and a Sigma Art 50mm lens and was super surprised at the quality of the photos. The R10 is a wonder at the price.
I've had the RP for a couple years now as my primary shooter. I use it for landscapes, portraits, nature and auto photography as well has images for my social media and video of RU-vid as well as some paid work for clients. Being that it was so affordable when I bought it (the only full frame under $1k) I feel like it couldn't be beat for my use. and I feel it still holds up extremely well with then right glass.
i completely agree... Tried it with older cheaper EF glasses and i was not really impressed, but even a "cheap" RF 50mm 1.8 is just MUCH MUCH BETTER than my EF 50mm 1.4 ever was for example. Since a while i got a RF 800 F11 and its just awesome, even 4-5 fps are just not that awesome for wildlife, but it works and i can work around this limit with 1080p 60 fps video or even 4k video in manual focus and heavy crop to effective 1800mm (basically just enough vertical space for a 100% frame filling full moon)
@@harrison00xXx that’s awesome, I’ve been debating switching out my EF50mm 1.4 for the RF50 1.8 but haven’t decided. Good to hear that comparison. I currently adapt old EF 50mm 1.4 24mm 2.8 and 85mm 1.8 and have been back and forth about whether or not I should spend the money. I did rent the RF 24-70 and RF 70-200 for a shoot in Maui and was blown away. It’s just so expensive for a small time / part time guy like me lol.
@@BlackFlagAdventure Just get rid of the 1.4 as long its working and get for a little payment a new RF 50mm 1.8 STM Its especially on the RP super lightweight, it will feel like a "snapshot camera" way less than 1kg, more like 500g about. The RF 50mm is the lens i love the most on the RP as always on, beside the RF 800 F11 for wildlife. a super compact and lightweight combo for hiking and travelling with less than 2kg! It just happens that i have some macro, zoom and other special lenses for astrophotography as well as 2 telescopes with EF mounted so i have my "creative" lens set with Meike EF RF Filter adapter and additional to Meikes polarizer and ND filter one from breakthrough, the light pollution filter for astrophotography. In EF i can switch lenses whenever, how and how often i want since the filters protect the sensor from dust alltime, with RF lens switching im still careful.
@@BlackFlagAdventure I really loved the 1.4, especially for videos of my reptiles in nearly complete darkness while hunting or for concerts and festivals etc. I got the RF 50mm as the EF 1.4 made AF problems in cold conditions and so i had both to compare directly. The difference is like day and night, the EF 1.4 has just one single positive: a better bokeh and also at smaller apertures it "looks" better since it got more aperture blades. In anything else the RF 1.8 (as well as the EF 1.8 STMs!) is SUPERIOR.... MUCH sharper, barely CA, supports smooth aperture changes for video use.... And especially the RF version feels higher quality than any of canons autofocus 50mm 1.4/1.8 lenses on EF mount before. I would even suggest the thing you HAVE TO BUY with a smaller EOS R camera is a RF 50mm 1.8 (or a 35mm with stabilizer if you can afford)
@@harrison00xXx much appreciated I thinking I’m gonna go for it, at least with the 50mm still need to expand my glass collection tho lol, never ending gas lol
Thank you Jared Tomorrow I am going buy R10 and going use with my Sigma E 17-70 f/2.8-4 even though I paid advance still I was not fully convinced because I am a Nikon shooter after seeing this video I feel what I am doing is good
Just as a side note if buying the R7. If you are going to adapt ef lens just be carful that the lens has enough reslove, as i run into this problem when i got my 90d which also has a high megapixel sensor.
Coming from a very old 40D, the EOS RP was a huge step up for me. Finally, I could fulfill my dream of stepping up to a fullframe sensor. I really love that image quality, especially for stills or landscapes and low light conditions. I also started taking pictures of some birds in a nearby park - works just fine. But remember, I stepped up from a 14 years old camera :D Why did I upgrade: The autofocus system of my 40D was a little bit "special", it didn't hit that well. Now with those in-sensor dual pixels, the very most shots are now perfectly sharp, even with older lenses! And I got that RP body for less than 800€/US$, which was a awesome deal! But I understand, that if you want to shoot fast moving objects, you may consider buying another camera. Maybe there will be something like an EOS RP II - but that will probably be not be that cheaply available. I would be very happy if the animal eye tracking was being added to the RP - but I think this won't happen. Overall price/perfomance I give that RP a very good 4,5/5*. Just a notch to slow, but the other characteristics are amazing fot its price.
ive used a 20d with the 500f4, and a M6mkii with the same lens the M is far better, but the R7 blows it out the water, I only bought it for street stuff but was amazed by the results, I have the R3, R5 R6, the only lens upgrade ive made is the 35mm , I prefer the Petzval for portrait and I don't do that very often
I own a R6 and an RP after selling my M50. I like the RP for making stationary tripod videos because the larger sensor is more forgiving in low light but getting the R6, it is leaps and bounds better. At the time I got the RP there weren't a lot of full frame options and it was good to get into full frames. The R10 is where I would start now if I were doing it again.
I wouldn't. The RP offers better image quality, especially at higher ISOs (photography). If I mostly did video, then I'd take an R10 too, as you suggested.
It is a good comparison, but the camera itself serve its purpose to the user. RP is very good when taking portraits to be honest, but if you're taking sports or fast action photos, better to grab faster cameras. It really depends on the user. For me, I'm happy with my RP, if I need to upgrade, I'll jump to R3
I bought the RP as a backup because I found it for $700 with less than 5000 shutter. It actually made me upgrade my 5D Mark IV to an R6. For a full frame, strictly camera for photos, I don’t think you can beat the value of the RP. As long as you don’t buy retail. But the market is flooded with used RP’s with
Having an EOS 7D II and being at Burundi, I have definately made my decision. This video has shown me that my next step is acquiring an EOS R7 and continue shooting APS-C images all along. Many thanks Jared. Keep doing this for us.
I had been looking at moving from my M50 to a 90D but recently started looking at the R7 and I am really leaning toward getting this camera instead. This video did help me in deciding that the R7 is a better camera for me instead of the R10.
To me the comparison runs a bit further to include the Canon R (used: $1500) and the Nikon Z5 ($1300). And the Fuji S-X10 ($1000) now that I think about it. Of those I think the Z5 has the best image quality esp. in low light, the Fuji has the best lenses available, and the R7 has the best autofocus. So it's a pretty tough call.
I’m not flush with money, and have to make a lot of decisions based on that. So I’ve spent a long time making do with less. But I have been doing this as a profession and as a hobby for closing in on four decades. I shoot mostly in full manual, and always in raw. So at the very least I have to take umbrage with your assertion that the R10 doesn’t leave any room to move upwards, or is only for someone who isn’t looking to improve their photography as a whole. One of the things that is most attractive about it is the level of customization that you can add to it, and the amount of control you can exert over it. The RP has been a great camera for me, with the ability to be very thoughtful in the way that I approach photos and the way that the camera handles. I plan to add an R10 soon, mainly because I like the difference in features for different uses, and I appreciate the similarities between the two cameras in terms of placement of controls and levels of customizability. I’d love an R5 and R7 as my one-two punch. But the RP and R10 will undoubtedly generate very good results for me. As both are marketed as entry level cameras, I feel safe saying that they both leave a lot of room for upward movement, experimentation, and opportunity to gain experience and skill.
Perfect video for me. When I started watching, I had three tabs open at B&H: R10, R7, and RP. They're all kinda sorta doable on my budget, but I wasn't sure which would be the best investment. This video nicely explains the differences, and it's helped me settle on the R7 as the current leader in my camera search. Good job, Polin. Thanks!
Full transparency, I have not read all the comments so I don’t know if this has been said. I mounted the original kit lens that came with my 80D, the EF-S 18-135, to my R5 to see what would happen. As soon as I connected it, the camera automatically changed the sensor to the 1.6 crop mode. When I removed it and put an EF lens on, it automatically changed back to full frame mode.
In terms of stabilization the R7 seems like a really good option. I'm considering to save a bit more for an R7. Will EF lenses give me any disadvantages if I adapt?
I've been very happy with my RP for a few years. I wish the low-light performance was better but it's useable. It was my path from the 70D crop-sensor to full frame, the R did not appeal to me. I may upgrade to the R5 when the price comes down. I love the RF-L glass!
You mustn't know how to get the most out of it, the RP is fantastic in low light. You have to overexpose (keeping an eye on the histogram to not blow out highlights). In fact you should always be doing this with the RP, even in daylight, to get the cleanest possible shadows and reducing the need to recover shadows. With Highlight Tone Priority turned on, the highlight recovery is very good.
@@BrettCulverVlogs I hear this claim from R6 users all the time. There's very little difference in ISO noise between all of the R series cameras if you shrink the images down to the 20MP of the R6. The biggest difference between the R6 and say R/RP images shrunk to 20MP is the sharpness of the image. There's relatively little difference in terms of ISO noise, but there's a lot more fine detail in the R6 images which have been softened in the other 2 cameras.
@@rlfisher My RP doesn't have a lot of noise. It's not that different to the other R series cameras. The R6 is not that far ahead in terms of actual noise, if you shrink the RP image to 20MP. The R6 does retain noticeably more fine detail and is sharper though. My RP marginally beats my friend's R, but it is meant to according to the DXOMark scores.
I had a Nikon N65 SLR years ago and sold it because I wanted to move to all digital, but I never got around to getting a DSLR. Now I just have a Canon G15 with a tiny 1"/1.7" sensor and it's time to get a bigger camera. I was planning on getting an RP, but this video has me reconsidering now. I would prefer full frame but the next step up from the RP that's still full frame is out of my price range. I don't do fast action photography, so I still think the RP will be good enough for me.
I love my RP for beauty/fashion/portraits. I pair it with Canon and Sigma primes for natural light and with a 24-105 L for studio work and while I would love an R6 or R5, I can't justify it because I just don't need the extra features for my type of photography... And the RP has 26MP vs the R6's 20, so that would even be downgrade. I love buying gear and have severe G.A.S., but I love my RP...
Not sure if it was mentioned in this vid as I ff through much of it but the movie length of these cams are R10 = 2hrs R7 = 6hrs RP = 29m 59s This is important to me for vlogging etc. The RP would be useless to me.
What I hate is right now there is no actual good high MP full frame below R5 pricing. (R6 is for sport) Your choices for a decent full frame mirrorless are the Sony A7R IV, Canon R5, Fuji GFX 50R (Medium format). That's it. The only other realistic options are DSLRs
Unless you need speed or unless video is your main focus, the rp is an amazing camera. And at $900 for the body (what I spent), no camera in that price bracket can come close. the images are gorgeous and you can definitely use it in a studio environment. Add some lights and some quality lenses and you can produce professional results. It's not my primary camera (the r5 does that for me) but I enjoy using it more than my Sony a7r3. The a7r3 is better but in a studio environment I don't need high framrerate and I have lights so I don't need low light performance.
I went from a R10 to a R7 to a R6 and decided to go back to the R7 🎉 I love how versatile it is 👌 better reach than the R6, better battery life, better at macro photography(you get closer), in-body bracketing, higher megapixel for cropping.
Great review Fro! Question, why didn’t you include the Eos R in the mix. I know it’s a $300 more expensive than the R7 but I feel it would have been a good battle between RP, R, and R7.
Great video! I have an R5 and 6dm2 with great EF an RF lenses, all of which I love. However, it all gets pretty heavy on long trips trudging through airports, bus terminals, etc. I bought an R10 just for travelling. It was on sale in December for under $800, and it works great with all my old EF-S lenses. It was just too good a deal to pass up. My load has been lightened significantly and I still hope to bring home some great shots.
RP for me, is probably something I will look at because I already have the R10. I shoot landscapes and cityscape, places where FPS doesn't matter and if I need to shoot moving objects I can use my R10. Plus, I have 3 RF lenses which are a bonus. I use Fujifilm as well, so, I haven't totally gone full blown Canon, yet.
Getting the r10 for birding with the 600 f11. The r7 doesn't offer enough benefits to make it worth it for me. Its higher quality 4k 60 is slightly more cropped and its ibis barely works with the f11 lens in particular. It has more resolution though and apparently better low light performance, two SD cards, bigger battery, larger evf, video switch so the custom modes can be used for video, and a circular dial for easier skimming of photos. It weighs .4 pounds more and costs $500 extra.
I still film all the videos for my channels with the EOS R and I LOVE the colors and quality STILL!! Looking to pickup a B cam now for our travel and vlogging footage, not sure which is best for our use though…. Maybe the R10 with a speed booster?? Yup, R10 it is!! Thanks Fro’
@@healing2gether I looked only one I seen was $500 and for a full frame at that there was one that is discontinued now tho. Leave a link if u don’t mind if u can find one maybe I’m looking for the wrong item or something
I'm new to the whole photography game and got into it wanting to shoot wildlife and for jet spotting (i.e. fighter jets). I went with the R10 with the RF-S 18-45mm F4.5-6.3 IS STM kit lens. I then bought a EF 75-300mm F4-5.6 IS USM with a Meke Drop in ND (ND3-ND 500 & drop in clear) filter mount adapter and a Valtrex EF-EOS R Auto Focus Mount EF/EF-S Adapter. I also ponied up for the RF 100-400mm F5.6-8 IS USM for it. I literally went to Canon, B&H, and a few other chat rooms to inquire about being able to jet spot and what budget camera they'd recommend. Hands down was the R10 and followed closely by the R8. The R8 was a bit out of my budget range but is something I'll be looking at in the not to distant future.
Ordered an R7 a few days ago, it’s on back order so it might be a month or 2 before I have it, but I’m very excited for it and I’m confident I’ll be happy with my purchase.
Just ordered the R7 for wildlife to go with me old EF500f4L IS and keep the r6 for landscapes portraits and astrophotography Can’t agree more about the INVEST IN GLASS as finally upgraded all my glass to L apart from the 50 mm which I’ve gone sigma art 1.4 love that 👍👍👍 great videos by the way appreciate all the work you all put into each video 👍👍👍
Great comparison thanks! I just have different opinion with the evf or using your screen. At the beginning I thought exactly like you same exact thought's... Then I was wondering why many people like your friend Manny Ortiz was using the screen more and more. I got then a canon R and started using the screen in weird situations that before I required a ladder or going really down. And all the sudden after few months... I realize I was not using the EVF anymore or almost never .... Why? I got lot more sense of the scene around me I can direct the model I get better composition I work much faster ... I use EVF only on direct sun situations. I do professional portraits since 7 years ago. Thanks for your feedback as always.♥️
Excellent comparison, I just sent the video to a few friends looking to buy a Canon. My favorite thing about R series is the adapter, I love my EF glass and won't part with them as I love my DSLR's and use them all the time especially my 5D4.
I have the RP, and I don’t shoot fast moving subjects. Mainly landscape, architecture, street, nature. And even 3 years later, it’s great, especially when paired with good glass (so glad I got the RF 24-105 f/4L, plus I have the EF to RF adapter to adapt all that great EF glass that’s out there). It’s a pretty solid option for those who want full frame but can’t/don’t want to spend $$$$ for it.
Once again the R7 wins. I keep looking at different cameras from full to crop. The r7 still wins yes it's pricey however I have no intention of buying a new camera. My purpose is for my YT channel with vlogging as well. Looking forward to getting the camera my one main concern is the lens. I'll have to look at your videos to see which lens you recommend for YT videos/vlogging.
I would suggest the RF 16 or 24mm if it has to be light and small (but keep in mind... the RF 16 is pretty unsharp and no stabilizer and IBIS alone doesnt do well. The RF 24 is better for this case, but already a bit expensive. I tried the EF-S 17-55 2.8 and its somewhat OKish to use as vlogging and general use lens, but since its a zoom and adapted, its front heavy and by far not as convenient as a short, light RF 16 or 24mm lens. And i would not say the R7 wins completely, especially when you really only mind photography and dont care about speed the RP (or R) is the best deal, especially since you can use so much better full frame (EF) lenses. Also for 1080p video they are pretty good, just too crippled in 4k modes. I mean, i really enjoy the R7 more over the RP, but ONLY because i changed my style completely from basic photography in many ways (wide angle astro/milkyway, astro on a telescope, street, landscape, low light...) to a very wildlife and video centric style so the RP was basically one of the worst fits for this usecases. Otherwise i would still enjoy and love the RP.
@@jbennett3578 Well, it really depends, as a long time APS-C user and using full frame for a while.... especially due the EF/RF mount system full frame is pretty unbeatable on canon so the RP is definately something to consider if not too much video and features/speed interested The R7 is just a compact and universal usable APS-C powerhouse for "little" money. Especially since i looked a bit into the "newer" cameras released like Panny GH6, S5 II, Fuji XH2(S), Sony A7RV etc and just by seeing the body prices and look a bit on the 2nd hand market for lens prices..... oh boy, i am so happy for just being a "loyal" canon user since 2008 about, EF lenses are so many pretty good and affordable, just good APS-C lenses are lacking on EF/RF mount which is one of the bigger "flaws". I dont get why the competition is THAT EXPENSIVE?! GH6 2500$+ for MFT? the S5 II with somewhat limited faster video features, 2000$ but at least a nice full frame (photo centric) camera if you can afford the lenses The Sony A7RV would be somewhat "the best" compromise to get very good video and very good basic higher res photography, but same problem as with panasonic and oly/fuji..... just super expensive lenses if you want something better than average which make most systems a lot more expensive than Canon, as much all hate on canons expensive RF (L) glasses, there are at least good, high quality and fair priced EF alternatives unlike with any other system. I knew this would happen as soon i heard about the RF mount! Canon is slowly killing the EF mount and we are at a nice point to get 2nd hand, latest generation EF glass which costed like 3 years ago a lot more since it was "the best" (and is in some occasions still.... EF 100-400 II L beats in my opinion the RF 100-500L, same for EF 70-200 2.8 III vs RF 70-200 2.8, better and cheaper)
@@harrison00xXx It's all about the tradeoffs, isn't it? I like the idea of full frame, but I also want credible 4K video capability, so the R7 is at the top of my list. So far. Tradeoffs on the body/lens costs too. The R7 body is about as much as I can afford and still have budget left for some decent glass. I hope the selection of native lenses improves, but as you say, there's a lot of secondhand choices too. I'm using an M5 at the moment (and occasionally my Canon SX520, which is still pretty nice for a pointy-shooty camera), so the R7 would be a nice upgrade for me. Still looking at options of course, but I'll be measuring them against the R7.
Great review, been trying to find a second camera as a back up that may get use once in a while. I was thinking of the R7 and thanks to your review i believed I have a winner. I am currently shooting with a Canon R5 as the main camera.
Thanx for the video. I'm on Canon 700D and I shoot 99% product photography in studio enviroment. I'm looking to upgrade my gear, and I was thinking to go with the RP and EF 100mm macro lens for product photography. Do you thing that is a good combo for my use? So no landscape, no sports, maybe here and there some portraits. Thank you!
I bought the R10 and was disappointed. I’m returning it and getting the R7 (was trying to save the $600). It feels better in my hands, and I like a few more of the features you highlighted. I'm moving up from my iPhone (I got a bit lazy the last few years) but prior I had a Canon Rebel and sprung for a Tamron less that I thought was outrageous (back then). I did a lot of post-processing as well (I'm a web and graphic designer and a content creator for a travel site). I thought the R10 would suffice but I'm too much of a perfectionist. I did purchase the Sigma Sport lens (watched another video of yours Jared) based on your suggestion in this video. I'm confident with the R7 and the Sigma 70-200 2.8 I will be happy taking photos of my son running around on the lacrosse field. Thank you for this video. If it weren't for you, I'd be using the Canon M50 Mark II based on what a friend is using. :P I'm super excited to have my new toys and very grateful for you!
As a R7 user and long time RP user all i can say is: RP for photography only (but its PERFECT!) R7 for wildlife/sports/video, and its in overall a much more capable and feature filled camera The R10 is pretty garbage, too much dents from the canon cripple hammer.
Is the R10 good for video Multi STREAMING(Facebook/RU-vid and Twitch)? I don't need it to record I just need good quality for night time and a good lense to zoom, I'm a live streamer I chase police scanner calls in my local Town, but I Run at night I only Run 720p only cause it needs less light and Facebook I stream to only allows 720p. But I'm trying to do as much research before buying something so expensive. Also need a good 18mm-200mm lense that will work well with the R10. Something with good stability. Our roads are tore up so its a bumpy ride. Need something that won't look so bad. Thanks for any and all info. Thanks
I don't think they want to, but new versions of the R & RP would be a good look in my eyes honestly. Especially with regards to the processor and the tough bar on the R.
Hi Jared, I really enjoyed your explanation on the three cameras. I’m looking at the updating R10 from Canon 80D. I have two Sigma lens 50mm 1.4 and 17-55 2.8 and Canon 40mm 2.8.
Jeremy Parr Hi Jared I am saving up for the new R 7 as I have the old canon 7D and like to go further with my photography. this video has help me the decide with to go for thank so much for shearing this video yours truly Jeremy😁
I went r10 I was worried i would have buyers remorse but i got it refurbished from canon with the kit lens and a 55-210 lens with 2 year warranties on everything for under 1000….. I mean it’s pretty perfect
Great video Jared,👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 We've all seen videos about how great the R7 is shooting wildlife and sports, but what about street photography and architecture etc? I’m in the market to upgrade my 70D and was thinking about getting a used Canon R but now thinking maybe the new R7 may be a better option. What do you think?
FYI, if you use an EF-S lens (on the adapter) with an "R" body the camera will recognize it and automatically adjust so it is in "crop mode" and there is no vignetting due to that. I presume that the same is true if you use an RF-S lens on a full frame "R" body. Of course, if the lens itself is known for vignette (especially zoom lenses at the widest focal length) that will still happen.
Oh and one more comment.i actually own the 6d2 so it's very easy to compare to the rp.i thought the rp would just be the 6d2 in a smaller body with similar performance. But i was shocked when I found the rp beats it.most notably in sharpness. I used the exact same ef lenses on both and even if all in body sharpness is turned off, the rp was sharper than my 6d2. That blew my mind.
The R10 need C-log3. 900usd camera need log profile as Canon called R50 a beginner camera. I USE M50, I will go with R10 if Canon offer Sigma trio or 22m F2 or fast kit lens. R10 must have C-log3
Have been waiting for a truthful response about the new mirror less technology changes. Time to box up my 7D Mk2 w/ BG + access. Looks like a R7 w/ Eos to RF adapter is on my Xmas list.
Really interesting comparison. I purchased R10 it suits me as I mainly take photos when out on country rambles and at 72 I don’t want to lug heavy weights around on top of carrying a rucksack full of essentials. I also bought the 100-400 RF zoom to go with it which is my main lens. The kit lens originally was the shorter zoom but I have changed it to the 18-150. I have not used this much however it is noticeable with poorer light the quality or ability to take photos with both lens is lessened compared to previous camera lens’.
Great video as always, Jared. I've been following your channel since your "how to capture motion in low light" video came out and It's amazing to see you still have so much fun reviewing gear. I'm considering upgrading from my old EOS 700D and am confused between the R7 & the R8. I want to upgrade to full-frame to capitalize on the great EF lenses out there but the R7 has some nifty additional features too. Are you going to do an R7 vs R8 comparison, possibly with sample images?
I’m still very new to photography, I’ve had my canon 2000D almost 2 years now and I love it! I have been contemplating a canon eos R for some time now but I think I can jump to the r7 when the time comes. Thank you for your advice.
I believe, 100%, that the R7 is the right choice for me. Which I will be able find out if Canon ever starts supplying them (body only) to fill my pre-order.
Regards the battery, I found that the battery from my 5DS fits my R7. I bought the R7 with the 18-150mm kit lens to travel with, and I am disappointed with the lens, so will suck up the extra weight, an buy a 24-102mm f4L lens for our next vacation.
I was looking at the RP since I still have a t1i. But Canon just releasing these 2 is very interesting since I wanted to upgrade. Love the 4k recording on the r7 and r10. Now time to save for one of those. Great video Jared
Question for you: if you had to choose between the R7 and the R8, which would you chose? I’m loving the dual card slots and bigger battery in the R7 but worried about it being a crop sensor vs the full frame in the R8.
I have an rp that I quite enjoy, but am interested in a higher stack of settings. The r7 is quite intriguing, but not sure about moving back to a crop sensor when I want to keep in the full frame world. But dang, them features on the r7 though.
I have the RP and really wanted animal eye detection, so I was thinking about selling the RP and buy an R6, now I have the RP and the R7. I must say since I have the R7 I have not used my RP, the extra reach for wildlife is amazing, the animal eye tracking is amazing and the 30 / 15 fps is amazing, oh and it has IBIS, I love my R7.
Jared, I own an a RP since this was released, the R10 and R7 I think is Goodyear option as a 2nd body, I like the R7, but the R10 use the same battery than the RP, this issue blows my mind, better body or the simplicity of use just 1 kind of battery. For my Kids has buy the SL3 just because the battery is the same as the RP
Possible use case for crop lens on full frame - if you shooting super 35 video where sensor is cropped anyway you can get good crop glass for cheaper than full frame. I don't know if this works in real life. I know Sony automatically picks up that you are shooting a crop lens and many of the cameras have crop modes. A1 is a 21MP crop sensor. A7III was 10MP and A7IV I think is 14MP...
Well, this just added to my difficulty. Between Canon, Fuji, and Olympus... argh. Maybe that can be another video for you? Of course, by then, will Nikon come out with something cropped. All the glass is good for them, even third and forth party. I see differences, but standard-faire customers never will.
I've owned the RP for a short time and it's an absolute joy to walk around the city or telephoto in the forest, but I'm already drooling over the R8 :D hahaa, the resulting photo always depends on the lens used; ) such rf-50L is a strong level of photos on RP !
Love the vid but just curious if ya'll changed the colors in your studio recording? I just watched the older video on R5 vs A1 and it looked a lot more pleasing. Thank you for all the knowledge!!!!
I shoot football games with the RP. No problem getting sharp photos. A high frame rate is no guarantee for good sports photos. The focus tracking of the RP is very good.
Canon RP is indeed a very underrated camera. For someone like me who uses only MF vintage lenses, RP is a great choice. Besides, the color science in RP is still like those of older version cameras like Canon 5Diii which is a plus. I can easily shoot at ISO 12800 and get clean and sharp images. I used to have SONY A7Riii, Leica M240 and SL and to me RP is yet the best.
