My Canon EOS R5 Mark II review so far! Hands on with the new camera! Order the R5 Mark II from B&H: bhpho.to/3Wp0anX or WEX UK: tidd.ly/3SafUsy Sell your used gear to MPB at: bit.ly/3ULU9yL Buy used gear from MPB at: prf.hn/l/YLqwRAP Buy Gordon a coffee: www.paypal.me/cameralabs Gordon's In Camera book: amzn.to/2n61PfI / Amazon uk: amzn.to/2mBqRVZ Cameralabs merchandise: redbubble.com/people/cameralabs/shop Gordon’s retro gear channel: ru-vid.com Equipment used for producing my videos DJI Osmo Pocket 3: click.dji.com/AIOhqT-LWUFDq-bGk8hD4Q?pm=link Panasonic Lumix S5 II: amzn.to/3Hf5IcI Sony A6400: prf.hn/l/pRO0wp5 Sony e 24mm f1.8: amzn.to/2TqWNzk Rode NT USB mic: amzn.to/3AdHcUp Rode Wireless Go II mic: amzn.to/3xkCvGo Rode Lavalier Go mic: amzn.to/3ygzzKY Godox UL150 light: amzn.to/2VpVbXE Godox QR-P70 softbox: amzn.to/3yQfGdF MacBook Pro 14in (16GB / 1TB): amzn.to/3PrKbPV 00:00 - Canon EOS R5 Mark II introduction 01:20 - sell your old gear to MPB (Sponsorship) 02:27 - Canon EOS R5 Mark II design and controls 04:17 - Canon EOS R5 Mark II viewfinder and eye control 05:50 - Canon EOS R5 Mark II screen 06:02 - Canon EOS R5 Mark II card slots 06:27 - Canon EOS R5 Mark II ports and Wifi 07:05 - Canon EOS R5 Mark II cooling vents 07:53 - Canon EOS R5 Mark II cooling grip 09:02 - Canon EOS R5 Mark II battery grips 10:11 - Canon EOS R5 Mark II battery 10:53 - Canon EOS R5 Mark II sensor 11:11 - Canon EOS R5 Mark II rolling shutter 11:42 - Canon EOS R5 Mark II AI upscaling 13:35 - Canon EOS R5 Mark II neural network NR 15:21 - Canon EOS R5 Mark II autofocus 15:48 - Canon EOS R5 Mark II action priority 16:31 - Canon EOS R5 Mark II register people 17:53 - Canon EOS R5 Mark II burst shooting and pre-capture 18:48 - Canon EOS R5 Mark II temperature and overheating 19:25 - Canon EOS R5 Mark II banding 19:57 - Canon EOS R5 Mark II video features 21:47 - Canon EOS R5 Mark II video rolling shutter 22:09 - Canon EOS R5 Mark II verdict and thoughts so far Music: www.davidcuttermusic.com / @dcuttermusic As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases
@@cameralabs I can understand why you may want the views that the click-baiters get, but I am so pleased that you give an honest and comprehensive opinion. Keep it going Gordon !
Hi Gordon I just wanted to say that I appreciate you getting to the point and not wasting 5 min on 'cinematic' introductions. Remember that there are people who still appreciate your style of review. I dont need to see someone make coffee before reviewing a camera cheers M8.
Your reviews contain everything I expect from this type of content on the Internet: reliability, maximum approach to comprehensive presentation of details and practical use of the reviewed equipment. Excellent job Grodon! Thank you.
Thanks Gordon!. Great preview. As far as I can tell this update addresses pretty much every complaint I've had with my R5 over the last four years. That being said, I'd feel a little odd giving up my R5 at this point. Nothing is perfect, the R5 is still a great camera and despite 4 years of steady use it shows almost no sign of wear. In fact, it performs far better today with current firmware than it did when I bought it. Great release but thankfully I'm not feeling any pressure to be an early adopter. The key to thriving in Canon's system is buying mid-cycle. For those that are in the market, It seems like a superb release. As it should be at that price.
I remember successfully using my eye to focus with my Canon eos 5 back in the 1990's. It's good to see it implemented again on a new Canon '5'' series camera.. 🙂
The EOS 3 film camera was my first autofocus camera, and I learned to use the eye-controlled focus well, even with glasses. It worked better in some situations than others, so you learned not to use it in some settings. Because it was my first AF camera, and I got used to AF working that way, I have always missed it. I did buy the R5 last year and thought that it would be my last camera (in my late 60's) UNLESS they came out with a version that had eye-controlled focus. Well... let's say I was among the first to pre-order the R5 MK II. And to have increased dynamic range along with it, and improved AF generally. I was more than content with the R5 and large prints from it (on a Canon Pro-2600). I am really looking forward the the MK II.
Easily the best and most useful first looks I've seen so far. Showing not only the new features, but also their limitations and therefore usefulness. Really, really well done Gordon!
@@cameralabs It shows in every way Gordon. Your breadth, depth, visuals, pacing, but most importantly, your sense of what's important (and what's not) to your viewers.
Seems alright overall. Now they just have to expand their lens line-up or fully open their mount for Sigma and Tamron before I'd consider buying a Canon camera again.
I think the price is good for all the added features you get. It is hard to ignore the $2899 price of the original right now. I love my R6 but need more MPs....
Matrix stabilisation? Do you mean digital stabilization? if so, then no, because it would require a crop and there's not enough pixels. But IBIS stabilization still works. Or do you mean gyro data?
@@100amperThat's a big downside of the R5C and also Fuji X-T3 that I used before. Thanks to IBIS I hardly take the tripod with me anymore. My style is run and gun and have small package so R5 II is perfect for that.
@@jan.tichavsky The only thing I like about the R5c is that you can shoot for several hours in 8k 60 frames - no overheating, I mostly shoot welding indoors on a tripod, but sometimes I need to fly around the object and even the electronic stabilizer doesn’t help, it’s bad without matrix stabilization.
I don't always check out videos knowing I may never have the budget to afford them but It's amazing to see the evolution of photography. One can hope the face recognition / prioritization features will eventually trickle down to lower models. The only excuse we'll have of missing a subject is forgetting to hit the shutter button!
The R5 II is the more exciting of the two announced today, and more versatile. The R1 will dominate the press galleries of sports and media events but there isn't much reason to need it outside of those niches.
I've heard that most reviewers only had a few hours with the cameras. This is a superb look, thank you, and if that time limit is true, even more impressive. Really appreciate the info.
Thanks! Access during press events can be limited, but I max it out for as much as I can! In this case it was one day with both cameras, but I kept working until late.
Though many were unfortunate enough to have to deal with the poorly designed hot shoe on the R5, that big design flaw is rarely mentioned if not searching specifically for it. It’s certainly never mentioned in reviews. I shoot video and take photos and many times I need to use on camera flash. Thankfully I had paid for extra coverage and was able to send my camera in for the quick repair, but others spent hundreds of dollars to get theirs fixed when it shouldn’t have been a problem in ten first place. I hope and assume that the updated hot shoe isn’t screwed into place from the inside of the camera this time! If you’re unaware, many of us dealt with the flash becoming loose in the shoe and not making proper contact. In the middle of an all-day shoot I discovered I had to use one hand to push the flash forward when taking photos so as to have proper contact. Thanks for the great review! I finally subscribed.
@@cameralabs I was also wondering if they addressed the hot shoe issue. I agree with @livemusic that you have to specifically search for this issue on the R5/6 or you don't hear much about it. That makes it hard to tell how wide spread the issue is but, for most it seems like the screws eventually just back out and the mount gets loose. Unfortunately, you have to take the camera apart to tighten them back up.
First timer here. Great job explaining the features in a First Look Review. Looking forward to seeing your in-depth analysis and the overall benefits/features in the real word.
It’s so nice to enter Gordon’s sane concise camera channel such a refreshingly good change from the other snake oil what’s up RU-vid channels of today.
very much would love to see a dynamic range comparison in video - between R5mk2, R5, and R5C. This is hugely important for real-world usability and functionality in documentary & video productions
I really like what Canon is doing with their mark II cameras and it’s interesting to see what Nikon did Z6 III. I hope it’ll push Sony to make the next a7 and a7S cameras up to par with their competitors
On paper looks like a good progression. I would've said that feature wise, it's a nice evolution. In practice, where I am, Canon wants 23% more money for it than for the R5 - that is a substantial price difference! Also I do not understand the presence of jpeg upscaling instead of pixel shifting of raw images in this model. Hi-res camera is bought for high resolution image sensor with the intention of pixel peeping every pixel shift - not a mobile phone jpeg computation. In R1 this feature had somewhat more validity where everything is about speed of transfer to the press. But here??
Appreciating all the cool details about the camera but also looking forward to learning more about: - Considering the new passive cooling design, how is the weather sealing? - Do we still have a low pass filter on the stacked sensor? - Any EVF lag when shooting 30fps? - Although highly impressive on paper, how accurate is the AF/tracking system when actually taking a picture? 100%? 90%? - What is the actual DR loss with this new stacked sensor? This sure sounds like an exciting camera, personally for me the same as the 5D Mark II back in the day, although on a whole different level considering the tech available today. Thanks for the detailed preview Gordon!
I agree. It's a shame. I want to have redunancy in Raw not Jpeg. Another review said the SD card took 30 secs to catch up what was done on the CF express card. 30 secs at an event is a lot.
@noPrinting i mean, they really don't "need" to do so. manufacturers could offer CF express cards with more efficient NAND flash that generates less heat rather than faster than required write speeds
Thanks Gordon, great as always 😊 do you remember if it’s possible to store and rename more then one custom white balance ? I like that feature a lot on my R3 body’s
@@cameralabs Thanks Gordon ! I hope because I use it all the time at my photography and the one with the old R5 ist simply not enough. Canon could have done it so mutch better. Why is the app so bad - you could not transfer white balances and safe it for the next time. The mft app by canon that costs something like 5 € a month is a joke. Better App better connectivity that would be a way to go … canon is great but 😂 really love your videos. All the best DIRK
Some complained the price increased by $400 compared to the R5 original launch price. $400 in four years to me is not too big of a deal. If you spend almost $4k on a camera, the extra $400 is not too much. If you don't commit to one brand, Nikon Z8 is a better deal.
So it has dual cards, but it really doesn't as they are different. It has a flip out screen for RU-vidrs ( who almost all use Sony ) but not a tilt screen that photographers like. Sony A7RV really is a professional camera, costs less, has a proper screen for photographers and video, and most importantly, has two card slots of the same speed. Not withstanding a vast lens range both oem and third-party, lower cost and more pixel sensor. I think it is great that Canon users are happy, but I can't see a single reason to buy it over the A7RV.
Owning a 550D, 5D Mark II and a R5C I will not upgrade until Canon will release a Global Shutter camera. But this R5 Mark II is nice indeed. Great video!
@@cameralabs My guess is Canon is being obstinate and consumer-hostile as usual. Still waiting for that firmware update to remove the 30 minute record limit on my R6 (M1).. (crickets..)
Hi Gordon, great review/preview as always! Just one question regarding the pre-shooting mode: does it still save the entire burst as a single file, like the R7 does?
Interesting. The sad think about is they still add a low pass filter making the images less sharp naturally & relying on auto artificial sharpening. Video formats match the R5C now.
Awesome review (pre-production). Re: Batteries -I had an annoying exchange of comments on another thread that somebody posted on Facebook about third-party batteries versus Canon. I have always said that the OEM batteries from Canon outperformed any other brand that I had tried and I had tried 2 other third-party brands. They were failures… I shoot Airshows so with High-speed jets, I could rip off 4000 shots easily. My batteries still showed 25% left. 🤙
First party always work better in my experience. Plus they're often needed to unlock the full performance in speeds or af. I'm sure there's some deliberate restrictions or blocks, but the bottom line is first party batteries often deliver the best performance.
What should I see. As always Gordon has reviewed all important features and covered them in one video.. Great video as always. This cameras has been released for the Olympic Games.
Excellent Gordon. Thank you. Having had dust on the sensor issues in early versions of the 5 (DSLR) series its something I'm very wary off. I wonder if the cooling option of the R5MKII will bypass any area that may put dust into the sensor area. Perhaps that's something you will look at in your fuller review Gordon?
Good review! I am still not sure I want to keep it though. I have to wonder if they just released it as is, instead of addressing some of the issues that still remain. I am still concerned about the reports of dynamic range limitations, although it may be debatable if this is really a concern for the everyday photographer.
I would like a replaceable cartridge s to allow two cards of either kind in any combination. I might be happy with two SD cards and you could have dual CFExpress.
Probably a stupid question but does it matter what lens is mounted on the camera in order to use the eye control? I am still using EF lenses with an adapter. Love your reviews by the way!
Great video Gordon. I'm still amazed that after all this time Canon still can't quite match Sony (and Nikon) on read out speeds and frame rates. I get that it beats them in a few categories but the A1 which is many years old at this point still has better readouts. I'm not a Nikon expert but I think the Z9 does too. The R1 is close but it only does it with 24mp. I would have considered switching back if I knew the readouts would not affect me. I can shoot plane propellers and hummingbirds now with no rolling shutter electronically. I don't trust this yet. I'll wait for your full review where I hope you can do some good testing of it. By then Sony may have given me pre-capture on my A1? LOL I doubt it.
Gordon or any other R5 owners please comment. From what you have seen so far is the differnce in price between M1 and M2 worth it for an amateur photographer, portraits, landscape, candid, and equestrian photography no videography. Is the sensor and AF changes really worth £1500 extra at the current prices?
I am curious if you had any difficulty removing the hot shoe cover. On the camera I had, it took quite a bit of work to get the plate off of the camera.
Hey Gordon, thanks for the review, great as usual 😃 Do you know if mark ii now delivers full power to the focus motors on the RF 600mm f4 please? I believe you said it was limited on the original R5. You referred to it as dual power supply. Thank you 😃
Like the new R5, but I'm not sure I would use the upres of jpeg or noise reduction, i would use Pc for that. Shame no pixel shift, either. Love the new focus, and I am sure they will enhance and add new activities. Hopefully, the eye focusing will work as expected. Camera on order, will keep.my R5 I, need twpo bodies.
It's a way of compressing video by multiple frames to make the file smaller than all-i which compresses each frame separately for better quality and faster editing
Thank's Gordon. I see no likelihood of my buying another Canon camera, but I like to keep an eye on a brand I have use since the EOS 630 was new. Still I think the S1R is the best camera for the photography I use it for.
I'm a bit baffled by the quoted times for 8K 30p recording here. It sounds like less than my original R5? That could quite happily go for at least one full hour. I've never needed more than that.
Thank you!!! Does it have the crop mode for 4K120? It can be very useful for wildlife. Pre-continuous shooting looks like cannot be assigned to a custom button for the user manual.
I really miss having sRAW. It was a nice feature for smaller res raw files on the old bodies. I saw you mention there was an sRAW for video. Is that a chance they added it for photo as well? I know there's cRAW for smaller file sizes but it would be super awesome to have the ability to do cRAW AND sRAW for even smaller file sizes. I love having max resolution for portraits/bridal photos but don't really need huge resolution for party photos.
Could you please help me with the following issue: my Canon R5C camera shuts down during video recording, the LCD screen goes dark, and the viewfinder also goes dark. When I switch the power to "OFF", the camera does not turn off. I have to remove the battery and reinsert it, after which the camera works for a while and then freezes again. This is very frustrating. What should I do in this situation?
Hi Gordon, in your review test, could you test at what point does the people registration fail? For example: • sunglasses on vs off between registered and when shooting • how close and clear of a face does the registration need? Does it work well if it’s only a side view? If it’s an wider angle shot? • does registration still work well across days? i.e. If it’s registered once, will it continue to successfully detect the same person over time? Additionally, will it detect well if say the subject changes their makeup or attire/costume? Thank you! 15:15 Also, would like to think this feature came about in part from feedback submitted personally on the R5! Had suggested for there to be an in camera counter check to verify if images captured are indeed in focus as the R5 had an issue where the subject AF box was on the subject but the subject in the actual image was OOF. Very frustrating especially on fast paced shooting days. The feature gives users at least a heads up check to try again to make sure they get the shot before walking away/wrapping. If indeed the feature came from the feedback, it’s good to see Canon listening to direct user feedback and actually doing something about it
Good questions about the person recognition, I'll do more tests for the final review. I believe it will work with different clothes, as it's possible to use a photo from any source.
I see no mention of focus breathing compensation. That's a shame, because Canon lenses breathe a lot. I was also hoping for a 3-axis like the A7RV. Nonetheless, the R5 II is a solid upgrade over the R5 but at $4300 I'm going to wait a while.
They did mention breathing compensation in the presentation, but I didn't get to test it, so didn't mention it here yet. Not sure if it's R1, R5II or both.
In R5 (Mark 1), if you are in a zone auto focus mode and start to track a subject, once the subject moves out of the zone, it stops tracking it. Does this still happen in the R5 mark II? I think I saw briefly in the clip that you had a center auto focus zone, it focused on the face of a basketball player and kept tracking him once he moved outside of the center zone (and R5II switched to full frame auto focus). If that is the case, that's a huge improvement!
I think once it starts to track with the shutter half or fully pressed, it'll follow across the whole frame. The zone part only seems to affect what subjects are initially recognised BEFORE you half press. At least that's my experience as I recall.
the body looks pretty close to the original R5- any idea if the cages and battery grips will fit or will all of those need to be swapped out for a new fit?
@@cameralabs very helpful! It would be nice if all we have to purchase is a new cable clamp instead of an entirely new cage. The forehead on the EVF looks flatter, but not much taller.
Very detailed pre-review 👏👏👏..go to Gordon for unbiased opinions…I’ve ordered r511… but love the feel of our r3 I wish the r1 had 45 mp.. but I understand why…
Pity we’re being ripped off at £ 4499. The US it’s the same price as the R5 at launch at $ 4299. Even adding say 10.25% sales tax in LA at $ 4740 or converted to Sterling £ that’s £ 3792 or £ 707 less that the UK price.
It seems like the rest of the world is subsidising Canons largest market. Here in Australia mkii is launching $1300 dearer on comparable mrrp’s with R5..
Like: eye controlled AF improved AF stacked CMOS 1/32000s pre-capture Dislike: M mode not providing longer shutter than 30s still +- 3EV Exposure Compensation (+- 5 in Sony and Nikon already) not 4-axis tilting mon not instantly close shutter on shutdown (in R5, hopefully not in R5II)
I really considered switching to Z8. But its is heavy and as I perceive not that great compared with dual pixel AF. And the cost of changing system is high =_=. If Nikon share the same lens mount standard as Sony. I will definitely go XD.
