A lot of people just want a camera, other than their smartphone, to shoot vacations, events, family, with a few closeups and some nature. Nothing complex. For them, an inexpensive camera is exactly what they need. Many don’t even know what RAW is. If they decide they enjoy it enough to go to something better, they can, as it’s the same mount. It’s tough trying to review this from a serious photographer’s viewpoint, as that’s not who is going to buy this.
@@akhyarrayhka4048 yes, we the consumers know better theres absolutely no reason to use rf lenses in their apsc since there's already a good apsc mount and instead of making new lenses they made doxens of cameras and trash kit lenses
Here's the deal. I got my M50 strictly as a webcam during the pandemic. But it also got me back into my love of photography. Since then, I've added an RP and then traded that in for an R6. If the R50 was to tank in value, used, I could see hesitation in getting it. But, like the M50, if it gets the juices flowing and is more attainable than the R10(that $300 will make a difference to FAR more people than you'll admit) then it is the perfect offering from Canon. If the R10 didn't exist, I'd see your argument against the R50. But it does. And Canon cameras hold their value. There is no problem here...
Agreed. Canon mirrorless, even from original M3, get the manual focus assist right from the beginning. More sensitive in lowlight, peaking still appear while recording video, etc. $300 will let us get a decent lightset, or used rode mic, even a bunch of manual lenses.
I have the R, R6, and the R7, and all have their use and strengths. The low weight and small form factor of the R50 I find very attractive, for travel that is. Had the M50 before and absolutely loved it, especially in combination with the Sigma 56mm. The lack of control dials is an issue, I admit. You can outsource one to the lens, but a second dial on body is kind of a must. Thanks for the review. As always honest and straight up.
For a lot of people, I feel like the M50 Mk.II is basically all they're looking for, but the R50 is a nice peace of mind since EF-M mount is, unfortunately, being abandoned and R mount will continue to grow into the future, and consumers can reliably put their current glass on a new body later on.
I use an adapter for lenses for my R50. M50 lenses to R50 camera, so far, works great. IS and AF work just fine and a lot cheaper than going for the new R mount lenses.
@@carlc.4714 I would say it's the contrary. Smartphone companies have been recently trying to emulate via software the portrait bokeh that comes naturally with a wide aperture lens. "Portrait mode" they call it. Of course, the results are not as good as the real thing.
This is very similar to the M50. It works better with the back screen when you tap what you want to adjust and then use the wheel. Entry level uses likely use the screen more. I think it is essential that the flash is manual. I hate a flash ta pops up and flashes when I did not want. Also you can always keep the flash on and raise it when needed. Electronic first curtain has been the norm in M-series. Having fully electronic is nice. M50 has only very simple fully automatic mode on electronic.
The production on these two episodes were great. It's interesting to see Canon expanding on their bodies to the extent of how many DLSR bodies they had. I'm looking forward to the APS-C lenses above all. It was great to hear that @Chris Niccolls wanted to share images that highlighted not just these consumer level cameras, but also the consumer level lenses currently available. Curious to know your lens set up for these particular videos, @Jordan Drake, especially the shot at 7:05 since the character of it is really brought out by your composition.
You guys are great. Canon sR50 looks like a fine camera. With enough IS lenses, the lack of IBIS is not an issue for me. I get great shots and video with 18-45 lens.
3:53 “looks like the m-mount is gonna fade away” - let’s be honest, the m-mount was secretly killed a couple of years ago, the widow just didn’t tell anyone and froze the body in the fridge to keep getting the pension (from some of us m-fans).
@@thetoyota86perspective54 thing is many of us might not upgrade to Canon like at all. But I will forever keep my trusty 20D as a reminder of those awesome days way back when the red striped belt meant something truly great.
Hang around any camera forum, and you will see tons of people who were arguing that the fact that Canon hasn't released a new M lens since 2018 didn't mean the M platform was dead. Go to a forum right now, and you will find plenty of people arguing that the R50 doesn't meant the M platform is dead.
@Gemma Seymour there is still nothing like the M50. Light, has a viewfinder and the EF-M lenses are exactly what mirrorless should be: sharp, light, look good and those primes are quality. I bought two M50 bodies because I personally don't plan to upgrade for around 10 years. I have 12 lenses, 8 EF-M and 4 EF, there is no camera on the market that can do what my M50 does in a package so small. Also, RF lensed are stupid expensive. As for EF-M being dead, Canon stop producing DSLR bodies and EF lenses long ago but they are far from dead. The 7D II and 90D communities are still thriving let alone the M50 community
Dudes, you're gonna have to adjust your thinking to match the target audience for the camera. A lot of the issues you raised are perfectly valid for an advanced enthusiast, but for the target market of this camera, not so much. Not to sound arrogant here, but dumb down the presentation to the issues that are important for this market, e.g. the auto features and the lack of image stabilization. Just a suggestion, but dial the commentary more to the price point of the camera. Ya, I know you do that to a certain degree, but do it more. Would I buy this camera? No way, but for a person transitioning from a phone to a camera, this is probably an excellent choice. That should have been the focus.
The only question I want answered right now is, when will Canon release an RF mount version of the EF-M 22 mm f/2? Adoption of the R system is hampered by the complete lack of affordable, fast, normal and wide angle primes. For this reason, right now, the R50 cannot replace the M50 MkII, not yet.
This is my first time watching a video of yours and you just happen to be shooting 10 minutes from where I live in South Carolina! That’s a great location for some awesome shots. Definitely subscribing and looking forward to watching more of your great videos. This review was very helpful as I am looking at getting the R50 as a replacement to my now ancient Rebel XTi!
So today I learned that the 'dots' value used for viewfinders and LCD screens counts up all of the RGB subpixels, instead of a simple pixel count. What a ridiculous bit of marketing BS, and thanks for showing the pixel resolution as well!
Is the R5 or even R6 for that matter the same build quality as the R10? I love my R10 but I genuinely hate that it feels like a cheap toy in my hands. Considering getting a Sony a7riii
As an owner of the Sony FX30, I am looking for a 2nd camera to take out and about and film my RU-vid videos with. Out of all of the recent cameras released, I still see the R50 as the best choice for this especially given the price. I am still looking for Sony alternatives, but, it would most likely mean looking at older used cameras.
While I don't think the EOS R APS-C cameras are bad in any way, I just don't see a good reason for getting into the system given the very limited lens lineup... And since Canon has ruled out third party options it's not even likely to improve soon. As a beginner I would much rather invest in MFT, Sony APS-C or Fuji X, where there's a lot of lens options for me to grow.
I think the EF-M mount is still much more compelling. The APSC lineup for RF is horrifically bad, and the full frame lenses are a lot more expensive and bigger than the tiny EF-M lenses. Even the kit lens 15-45 is much smaller and has a better zoom range than the RF 18-45. The best advice I would give is to grab an M camera as they can use pretty much any lens with an adapter. Even without an adapter the EF-M 22mm and 32mm are amazing lenses, and you can also use the Sigma trio natively.
The ef-m 15-45 kit is not good though. compared it to my m43 kit lens and was shocked how soft it was at minimum aperture. also it feels super cheap. Canon needs to step up with lenses for RF-S, not just copy EF-M. The rumored Canon RF-S 16-55mm f/2.8 IS USM could be reason for me to upgrade.
Hello there! Beautiful shots and location. And it is good to know about the camera. But it is strange that an old Panasonic G85 seems very competitive with this new body.
the M50 had a mechanical shutter and it created excessive shake with longer focal lengths. You could not turn on electronic first curtain at all, while electronic shutter was available only in auto scene. That was a problem. I guess Canon solved it in a way in R50 now
So, it looks like you guys do a lot of videos. I'm getting ready to record some stage productions with my R50. One of the things I'm going to have to do is capture all of the sound coming out of the mixing board. I've found, I think, is the solution for this situation. A wireless transmitter hooked into the sound board and a receiver on the camera. The only problem is that the signal coming out of the board is line voltage. My camera can only use mic voltage. The solution is an adapter that reduces line voltage (volts) to mic voltage (millivolts). I found one on Amazon, several there offered, not that much money. I've also figured out the battery problem for the camera. A power pack for an RC car is the right voltage into a dummy battery and has a really big capacity.
Panning with electronic shutter can be done - when using the camera vertically. If you match the speed of your subject correctly then the subject will not look distorted. And the kicker is: The distortions caused to the background will not be discernible in most cases as then your rolling shutter moves equally over the unsharp background. So for stills this could make the rolling shutter less of a problem (no fix for golf clubs, baseball bats or other partially fast moving subject appendages)...
A camera I am looking into for vlogging. My first lens need would be a wide angle (10-18mm would be great but no R version). The 18-45mm lens not wide enough for the close but wide angles I need. Positives for me-nice an light. Always love the Canon touchscreen system-no one else comes close here. For vlogging the only cameras that compete for me would be Sony ZV1 and ZV1F but still no really good closeup but wide lens in ZV1. The AV1F 20mm lens may work. If the R50 had a 10-18mm it would be perfect.
It's a fabulous camera for kids getting into photography. The small body is ideal for smaller hands and the automatic mode delivers good results effortlessly. And if you as a parent own a larger R body, it's quite economical to buy one line of RF lenses to be shared. Although the RF 28-70 and 200-800 look a bit strange on the R50. :-)
I have loved my M50 for the last 4 years, and I hate that canon killed the M Line, but this seems like a decent option for an upgrade to me, simply because it gives uncropped 30p 4k. That certainly sound like a step up from the M50's 24p cropped 4k. And I think this lets you use the dual pixel AF in 4k. So if there are some affordable RF lenses now, and I can still adapt my EF lenses, I could see this being a decent option. Especially with it being the cheapest camera in the R line.
R50 is a M50 reborn. I'm hoping R9 is R7 without EVF, making a true successor of M6ii. EF-M was an experimental platform for Canon to figure out how to build mirrorless. So with RF confirmed to be the platform to work on. EF-M can retire with honour.
I have this camera. Love it, but the flash shoe supports only the latest Speedlite EL-5 flash, which is 75% the price of the camera. Yes there is the AD-E1 adapter but can't find that thing in stock anywhere since I bought the camera. Be aware of this issue if someone is considering using a flash
I have watched almost all your review films.. but this one is beyond BEST for one reason. the way is filmed on gimbal very smooth & great cinematography!! nice review..
My first cameras were a Canon t3i and 6D, but no longer interested in any Canon cameras. No official third party lens support is dead in the water. Sigma Art lenses are the best.
I'm 10 minutes from Magnolia Gardens which is where this was filmed. Really cool Canon choose Magnolia Gardens for their camera release. I've rented camera's before I buy and go there test them out, on my channel. Great place for landscape, flowers, oak trees and wildlife.
The R10 refurbished is $800. The R50 refurbished is $440. I don’t see why IBIS and the additional features are worth double the price tag. Plus lens costs, we’re talking about starting out at $600-$700 or $1200
You should tell people that Canon claims that the camera supports UVC/UAC, which means that it can be used as a web camera via a USB-C connection. BUT... it turns out that the USB connection doesn't transmit audio - just video. (In other words, it doesn't really support UAC.) It's bad enough that the camera simply doesn't do something that the literature claimes it does. When I contacted them, they weren't interested in clearning up their documentation to reflect the truth.
I'm really confused that no time was spent evaluating this camera for streaming/vlogging/content creation. I thought that's what everybody loved the M50 for. The review doesn't seem very complete without evaluating how well the R50 fills its predecessor 's shoes in this regard.
What's there to say about it? It has no ibis therefore its garbage for vlogging. What is there to say about streaming? Sure it probably does it. And content creation, that's obvious. Again no IBIS but good video quality.
I have been a Canon owner for 40+ years and am looking for a vlogging camera for my daughter for her business. The Sony ZV-E10 looks very capable and I was about to get the Sony but now I see this new EOS R50 abut to come out. Nearly every comparison I have looked at recommends the Sony over the Canon, but the Canon does have some advantages like an EVF, built-in flash, full touch screen, and various tracking features. Plus I already have 4 RF-L lenses for my R. What is everyone's opinion of the Sony ZV-E10 vs the not-yet-available EOS R50? Thanks!!!
I really like everything about this camera but the only thing that is stopping me from getting one is the fact that it doesn't have a joystick or button to move around my focus point that really is a sticking point for me.
For people who don’t plan to go larger than APSC, X-T30 and Fuji in general is way better. They give their best in APSC class, while for the other companies APSC is where they make low cost simplified bodies and lenses.
No mention of the RF mount challenges, there is no decent lens! The cost when you do add the kit and another RF lens makes this a really bad choice. Lack of IBIS is bad.
It doesn't seem much of an upgrade from an M50. I have a 6D full frame and an M50 (which I bought for video and travelling). Rather than buy an R50 I'd much rather trade them both in for and RP + EF adapter, which seem the best of both worlds for a great price. I have to admit though, I do like a mirror between the outside world and my sensor.
It seems that the HDR PQ is superior on this camera, so if you thought HDR PQ sucked on r7 or r6 you may find that is a great 10 bit option that can be converted to rec709 while maintaining good DR and good colours. I really don't see lots of proof of this as only a few people have mentioned it. Your video doesn't even cover HDR PQ nor do most
I quite like the M50 as a pocket camera, but a return to a single mount makes sense for everyone and the M glass isn't that great, the R50 offers far more options even with its limitations.
Canon's M glass isn't great but canon allowed 3rd party manufacturers to make M series lenses So you have a lot of options from sigma to the cheap ttartisan lenses. Far from perfect but the lens choices for beginners are much better than the RF mount imo which is mostly very expensive profesional lenses.
Canon has always half a$$ed their APSC lenses, the best options for their DSLRs have always been from tamron or sigma (eg. 35mm f1.4, 18-35mm f1.8, etc) So yeah the RF mount not allowing 3rd party lenses is a dealbreaker for me unless you already invested in EF-S lenses and are willing to adapt them for RF.
The useability is better on a Nikon Z50/Z30, zero upgrade reason to this or the R8. I can’t believe they haven’t put IBIS in the R8. That will massively hit sales of that camera. This R50 is so crippled it’s a major fail. This really is nothing but a point and shoot in it’s true form. We need one of these small cameras with 4k60fps and IBIS. No one seems willing/ capable of making it.
Are you going to shoot sport’s or wild life with a smart phone camera? Agreed that, as a travel or casual camera a smart phone camera does the job and does it well, but that’s where it’s talents lie.
@@Benjamin_Jehne a 7 shot buffer is low, but it's not unusable. You don't just hold down the button all day long, you'd spend more time culling than editing. If you can't get a better picture from a APS-C sensor and RF glass than a smartphone, I don't know what you're doing.
Racing to the bottom. Please buy our car, without pedals and steering wheel on buttons, press button to change left and right rotation, by the way also only 3 wheels. Enjoy!
I think it would be worth reviewing workflows for social media posts, IG, Tiktok are how people are consuming there work these days, not print or even RU-vid and phones are just so much better in my experience at this, such that "upgrading" from even say a four year old Pixel or Iphone is going to be disappointing.
Hi, I am a newbie.. can you help me to choose which lens I should buy? I want to buy the Canon R50, but I don't know which lens I should buy. I need to do manly photos to my family.. so for example to a person (bokeh effect) or to group of persons. Which one of these lens you recommend to me? 1) CANON RF-S 55-210MM F5-7.1 IS STM 2) Canon RF 50mm F1.8 STM 3) CANON RF 24MM F1.8 MACRO IS STM 4) Canon RF-S 18-45mm F4.5-6.3 IS STM
I would love to see how the autofocus compares with sony a6100 on the full review. It has been a long time since its release but still holds very well.
@@zegzbrutal got it, thanks!, actually r50 is going above my budget, still looking into it, but in mean time can you suggest best camera for photography around 700$ mark, appretiate the help!
@@gagandeepsinghbedi8125 R50 with the RF-S 18-150 might go over budget but it is the best for 1lens1cam option. If your local 2nd hand market is cheap enough, and you don't mind the size. Using viltrox Speedbooster with EF 24-70L f4 IS a solid combo
Both this and the R8 video seem to have an unusual amount of blown out highlights, is the R8 a bit limited in DR or just environment or getting used to a different body?
I feel that the R50 is a bit of a waste of time for Canon. I mean yes the R10 and other R cameras can be a bit intimidating but I think as long as they still include the full "Auto" mode on the mode dial (for at least the R7 and R10) then they don't really need the R50. Plus any beginner is likely going to want to buy a camera they can grow into and use for a few years, and like the Nikon D3500, I feel that the R50 is the same way -- they'll use it for a year or two and then want some of the more advanced features of the R7/R10 but have to upgrade again, and in the long run that costs more than just buying an R10 from the start. I think the target market that this camera is intended for is very small---most people are either snapshooters and will use their smartphone, or they are beginners/enthusiasts but they want something more along the lines of the R10, with some growing room. I mean Nikon hasn't bothered to create a beginner level camera because the Z50 and Z30 pretty much do that, but it also offers room for growth within the system (and for some, the Z50 or Z30 may be all they ever wanted so they're set). I mean in a way, Nikon learned that having 3 levels of APS-C DSLRs didn't make much sense, so they consolidated it into one ML camera (the Z50, and now the Z30 which is basically a Z50 without the EVF and some features from the Zfc but overall is a "catch all" for those from beginners to enthusiasts shooters who maybe don't want to go to FF. It offers many of the features of the larger cameras, minus IBIS and dual card slots, and a few other things, but it's a very capable camera that can do a lot, and I feel that t he R50 sort of falls below that and is not really worth the $200 price difference from it and the R10).