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Canon, Fanon, and Head Canon 

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@ladyjessicadarke
@ladyjessicadarke Месяц назад
Why am I getting the feeling this is a response to a roast or someone frothing at the mouth over your video/ Not the true way. I loved your House of Glass expansion. I like that you did this video, just not that you felt you had to.
@Jottagelado
@Jottagelado Месяц назад
That was my headcanon too. Guess it’s a fanon now?
@frankiethe16
@frankiethe16 Месяц назад
My favorite story involving Battletech and canon, is where the 1994 Saturday morning cartoon series is viewed as canon. As in it is an in universe Saturday morning cartoon series that was made as a anti-clan propaganda tool that was loosely based on real events.
@Reoh0z
@Reoh0z Месяц назад
You refuse my BATCHALL?!
@symmetry8049
@symmetry8049 Месяц назад
Feel like we could maybe split up "canon" even further: - IP Canon: what the IP holder (but not author) says is canon. (aka disney and extended StarWars) - Author Canon: What the creator claims is canon, in addition to the work itself (Sanderson's WoB come to mind) - Death of the Author Canon: Literally just the text itself (and if the text consist of multiple parts, then all of them ig?)
@blackvirtue6284
@blackvirtue6284 Месяц назад
Lucas and Rowling are great examples on the split between: Original work, death of the author. Original work plus later additions and revisions released as official material. Works + author's public headcanon that wasn't obviously included in the work.(which may then be contradicted. Eg. Dumbledore's sexuality)
@dathore
@dathore Месяц назад
One of my favorite kinds of fanon that even made it to the actual game is from BattleTech, the famous "Steiner Scout Lance", House Steiner has more than enough cash to field entire lances of assault mechs, and let's be fair, you can't be spotted during a stealth mission if there's no one alive to spot you, so the idea of the assault scout lance, or the Steiner Scouts, is rather possible in setting, and has even been mentioned in the turn based PC RPG when encountering Steiner forces. I just love the idea of 400 tons of murder robots turning a designated square of the map grid into a blasted wasteland then calling back to HQ to report that the infiltration mission is still going, and stealth hasn't been broken yet.
@dr.revenant4139
@dr.revenant4139 Месяц назад
One of my head canons is about jojo’s bizarre adventure. It’s that dio is afraid of being underwater in part 3. Because he was underwater stuck in a coffin for a century with no way out being stuck in that space became a livng hell for him. Plus his stand ,the world, is partly modeled off of a scuba diver look at the oxygen tanks on it’s back.
@TheeOK1
@TheeOK1 Месяц назад
Okay thats actually great
@BillNyeTheBountyGuy
@BillNyeTheBountyGuy Месяц назад
I was really sad when the Zak cannon wrote out the finger-less gloves v.v
@DragonBoi3789
@DragonBoi3789 Месяц назад
Elder Scrolls Series: Every main player character is either an aspect, reincarnation or avatar of Shor/Lorkhan.
@Reoh0z
@Reoh0z Месяц назад
I guess that makes Elder Scrolls Online proof that Sho/Lorkhan has multiple personality disorder.
@BalthusHomewood
@BalthusHomewood Месяц назад
This isnt for tabletop games, but I have a favorite headcannon about Toad from Super Mario Bros., specifically that he was the Toad at the end of each castle in the first game, and that the little guy had managed to get to the end of each castle himself through guipe or gumption like the Mushroom Kingdom version of a spy or black ops agent. The idea of his tone being bitter and resolute when he tells Mario "Our princess is in another castle." because hes just fought through all of that castle makes me smile 😁
@hauntorthegiraffebiscuit
@hauntorthegiraffebiscuit Месяц назад
Great video, but how does my Cannon HD camera fit into this? It’s a bit too heavy to stay on my fan, so I’m a bit lost…
@prophetisaiah08
@prophetisaiah08 Месяц назад
I have an unpopular head canon for 40k: The objective facts of the setting are represented by the game mechanics, not the lore because every bit of lore is propaganda of one variety or another and can't be trusted to represent actual facts. So that would make space marines notably tougher and more skilled than your average soldier, but not actually capable of the feats attributed to them in the lore. They can't move faster than the eye can see (they have the same 6" movement as a regular guardsman), and they aren't nearly as tough as tanks (they're only 1 pip of toughness over a guardsman and have 2 wounds instead of 1). They're superhuman, but only barely. They're actually less durable in their power armour than some other abhumans with no armour (like ogryns). But they are the vaunted special forces of the Imperium that relies on their people believing that the "Angels of the Emperor" are invincible supermen that can easily crush alien threats and any local dissent (kinda like the Russian Spetznaz that are getting creamed in Ukraine over the past couple years).
@Elemental-pk5kq
@Elemental-pk5kq Месяц назад
Thanks for the lore drop
@landonwyndham979
@landonwyndham979 Месяц назад
I actually really like that interpretation
@kronos661
@kronos661 Месяц назад
And what do you say about the books that are written as reports for high ranking inquisitors or officials? Why would those be propaganda?
@Elemental-pk5kq
@Elemental-pk5kq Месяц назад
@@kronos661 they would certainly be bias
@kronos661
@kronos661 Месяц назад
@@Elemental-pk5kq How so? In what ways, considering that those high ranking individuals (and ESPECIALLY inquisition) need accurate statements to be able to act and keep the imperium togather? Not to mention the books written from the perspective of an all-knowing god.
@rottenmeat5934
@rottenmeat5934 Месяц назад
Always funny watching non-Catholics talk about canon. One of those dogmas everyone hates is that the consistent canon is due to divine intervention. It's a miracle. Good luck trying that with your commercial products.
@RandomGuy331
@RandomGuy331 Месяц назад
My headcanon is that in Talvos, there does exist the restaurant chain the International House of Waffles (legally distinct from IHOP and Waffle House). Its run by a halfling family who that traces its roots back to John Waffle, a halfling that wanted more syrup on their pancakes but didnt want their pancake to be swimmin in the stuff.
@squeethemog213
@squeethemog213 Месяц назад
In my personal head canon the Gilead system, from Warhammer Wrath and Glory, has reestablish God machines titans. But there's just not enough resources to rebuild them. Thanks for making this video Zak 🙏😃
@Yacovo
@Yacovo Месяц назад
Thanks for the video.
@Xgmarcos999
@Xgmarcos999 Месяц назад
Truly amazing video btw, and my lancer head cannon is that Horus specifically follows Ra.
@robertprueter3292
@robertprueter3292 Месяц назад
Canon is one of those things that you want to have, as it sets the guidelines for the setting, and you want to ignore at your leisure. A setting without canon has no structure, a setting with only canon is stifling.
@Ridetherails_
@Ridetherails_ Месяц назад
one of my headcannons is that in 40k, peturabo never embraced chaos and became a daemon primarch, but due to thousands of years of injuries he has replaced so much of his body with metal and even potentially embraced the obliterator virus, that he is virtually indistinguishable from a daemon.
@Vuldovyol4912
@Vuldovyol4912 Месяц назад
While its common to see fanon in all fandoms, its also EXTREMELY common to see it in fandoms with more...vague lore. I think a good example is Destiny. A lot of it is decently vague to the point where there's a lot of different interpretations, but the hard steadfast ones that come into common circulation tends to be what ends up written on Destinypedia.
@kredonystus7768
@kredonystus7768 18 дней назад
My bit of head canon is that in First Law, Bedesh is possessing Logen and thats the Bloody Nine. He is described as a wild man and isolationist, he also disappeared after the seed is taken to Shabulyan, and that the seed isn't in Shabulyan in the 'modern' day. Bedesh was the only one who came to protect their Juvens from Glustrod, and the seed was brought to the island because Juvens didn't trust Kanedias. I think Bedesh realised something was wrong with Juvens. He went back after the seed was hidden and took the seed to Kanedias. Juvens found out the seed wasn't where it was meant to be and killed Bedesh. He then sent Bayaz to Kanedias to find where it had been moved to. Bayaz was a spy. Bayaz genuinly fell in love with Tolomei and thats why he betrayed Juvens and didn't tell him about the seed. Bayaz eventually told Kanedias what he was there to do and Kanedias put Bayaz in prison in the makers house. He then killed Juvens for planting Bayaz, and came back to kill Bayaz but Bayaz had escaped. Bayaz gathered the magi with a series of half truths and lies with the plan of capturing Kanedias for the seed, but his hope was that Tolomei would understand and join his side. Instead she rejected him because of his lies and in his rage he killed them both. Through his rage and hatred Bedesh's spirit stuck around in the world. He will possess a person for their life span giving them spirit calling powers at the cost of his rage coming forth.
@jaceg810
@jaceg810 Месяц назад
40K's dark admech under Vashtor and the Phyrexians under Yawgmoth could, in the right circumstances, be best friends, both being divine entities of progress and having an machinery integrated into flesh vibe. Funnily enough, they would also have great benefit for working together, one having access to save interplanar travel (as long as the thing you throw through is inorganic, like a chaos engine for example), while the other has access to cifi guns. A match made in heaven.
@azuraben5128
@azuraben5128 Месяц назад
In Lancer I have made a binary linked metavault, based on the Lich and Minotaur. Time and Space. Should be fun going through those encounters
@blackvirtue6284
@blackvirtue6284 Месяц назад
Slightly spicy as it asserts the canon creators made a mistake: Zelda: Wind Waker: Link was meant to pass out in the storm on the approach to Grand Fish Isle, which is where Link's Awakening takes place. I also always called the Hyrule Historia wrong, took almost a decade to be vindicated on that.
@mycroft_moriarty
@mycroft_moriarty Месяц назад
Can't wait to see what next!
@Extra.Medium
@Extra.Medium Месяц назад
This might just be canon, I don't know how legitimate the books for Eve online were but they offered a good lore explanation for why player characters are ~Like That~ that I think about fairly often. I don't remember how much if this was in the books and how much was me, as it has been a while since I read anything from this world. Capsule pilots are clones that were genetically and cybernetically enhanced to be able to control massive starships as though they were their own bodies. When they die, their minds are scanned and placed in new clones so they're functionally immortal. After decades or even centuries of dying, reviving, perceiving themselves as ships and installing tech priest levels of invasive implants to bodies that rarely leave their pods, they lose their humanity. They're gods in all of the worst ways. The kind of gods who wage war just to pass the time, or open fire on colonies just to see if there's any neat salvage. Or just MMO player character stuff, treating mortals like the NPCs that they are
@Zaktact
@Zaktact Месяц назад
I really like this. Such a fun way of explaining UI and game interactions.
@kredonystus7768
@kredonystus7768 18 дней назад
One thing people forget is all fan videos are fanon to some extent. Sometimes they spout complete lore accurate information but a necessary part of the creation, especially in settings like Lancer where it's intentionally nothing but holes, you have to fill gaps. Look at Warhammer 40k, there is so much lore, and so much contradictory lore, many souces aren't available, and everything is considered canon. How are you meant to wade through that? Luetin has the idea of the more recent and more frequent something is stated, the more likely it is to be true. Baldermort has the idea of telling that piece through a story to show a way it may be interpreted. Templin has the idea of reading the wiki and hoping no-one notices. Majorkill has the idea of being so irritating you don't care what he sais (we don't all sound like him).
@F1re-3-Thrower-32
@F1re-3-Thrower-32 Месяц назад
Star Wars: The old republic games and some events from the original clone wars show are canon to me (mostly because there isnt anything disproving them yet) like the battle for coruscant in the 2d clone wars since we have been given no other visuals on that battle apart from ROS i just supplement the original clone wars' depiction of events (minus the scenes of grevious cleaning up jedi)
@dovahkiin_brasil
@dovahkiin_brasil Месяц назад
I have a feeling Zak had this exact talk with someone else
@deforesttappan6478
@deforesttappan6478 Месяц назад
Thanks for the explanation!!! What???
@LexYeen
@LexYeen Месяц назад
My headcanon for Lancer is that the furry fandom survived the Fall, and there are multiple worlds where if you want to become your fursona (within reason anyway) you simply can.
@lyyne7696
@lyyne7696 Месяц назад
I always find the concept of cannon in ttrpgs weird. when so much of the story is based on improvising what happens in the moment, relying on a particular cannon to have all the truth and nothing but the truth seems unproductive, so having resources like your videos to fill in the gaps in the cannon really helps take a loud off the gm’s back. Ps. personally I use so much home brew from all over the internet in my games that sometimes even I forget what came from the core rulebook let alone the players😂
@Zaktact
@Zaktact Месяц назад
I agree, especially with settings that have books upon books. When it comes to the table however it doesn't matter, the improv and campaign takes precedent. I personally like to work with or around canon if I am in an established setting, but outside of that I love to fill in gaps. Though the lore side of rules lawyers do exist out there.
@TheeOK1
@TheeOK1 Месяц назад
I disagree. I think the point of having a canon world like that is to give players ideas of what their world could look like, fleshing out rule changes in a way that's not meta, while also giving life to the monsters or world and giving newcomers that buy a book an idea of what that TTRPG is; it sets the tone, though a dungeon master can make the world his own or nake one entirely, it presents the heart of the ttrpg itself. It sets an impression or creates a soul. If there would be no canon in a ttrpg, then you could argue there's no use for a story in general. Just improvise the whole thing, but that wouldn't be that ttrpg. It would be make believe through and through. Its largely why I dislike the current structure of Dungeons and dragons.
@rileyace8015
@rileyace8015 Месяц назад
The fun of the black library and 40k is the unreliable narration we as the audience get anything could be cannon but it also just as easily can be one viewpoint within the setting that games workshop can easily prove or disprove at a whim
@kronos661
@kronos661 Месяц назад
So you like it because nothing matters? How in the everliving fuck does that work?
@rileyace8015
@rileyace8015 Месяц назад
@@kronos661 nothing is true everything is cannon
@kronos661
@kronos661 Месяц назад
@@rileyace8015 I know that piss-poor excuse. How is that supposed to work? If nothing is true than nothing is canon. The existence of canon by definition means that there is objective truth there.
@rileyace8015
@rileyace8015 Месяц назад
@@kronos661 it’s no excuse if you can’t see the fun in how it works that’s fine it’s not for you just go find something that is
@kronos661
@kronos661 Месяц назад
@@rileyace8015 I just asked you how is that supposed to work since the statement is self contradictory in it's very nature. By ignoring that you are throwing a towel.
@chibipotate
@chibipotate Месяц назад
Well then, This is an interesting video... Although im... Not sure if the house of glass navy thing should really be considered Fanon or Headcanon, Like... These are the guys, apart of the faction that regularly in their history went head to head with union with a giant navy, and have been shown to have a giant non-military navy all over, which they presumably dont just leave to hang out to dry for pirates... Kinda makes sense that the guys who are 10% categorised as a faction by having a huge heckin navy in their history, would have a huge hecking navy. The Specifics of that navy might be headcanon but like... its the guys apart of a faction said to have a huge heckin navy, They probably have a huge heckin navy. Thats not really "Inventing:" stuff as fanon or headcanon thats just, "Hey, the setting talking about this sub-faction of this faction, who has a giant navy exists..... do we think the guys, apart of the giant faction, with the giant navy, might infact, have a navy?" thats just dot-connecting on something that is heavily stated.
@Zaktact
@Zaktact Месяц назад
When it comes to referencing the navy of House of Glass in this video, it came from another interpretation of the House. They believed that with the devastating loss over Creighton's world and the mentions of mech production finally outpacing fleet production, that they had been entirely converting their fleet based manufacturing into mech warfare. While I don't subscribe to it, I've seen that floating around as a way to take the House of Glass.
@chibipotate
@chibipotate Месяц назад
@@Zaktact Yeah thats... a hard theory to subscribe to, The facilities to maintain and build such a vast fleet are very specific facilities at that. Its not like you can just flip a lever and swap a shipyard into a mechyard, The fleet might be depleted compared to its former glory, But its not like it'd disappear overnight. Especially with the wording of "Outpacing" not "Converted Over"
@MrRKK-yw8hj
@MrRKK-yw8hj 25 дней назад
Naruto: that jiraiya is konoha's spy master. We know he has an information network but we do not know that it is the same as konoha's information network.
@Uglukkk
@Uglukkk Месяц назад
I have not met someone who cares about cannon, stronger then just to say "hey, just remember thats not cannon", and that was not a looser.
@uhjn
@uhjn Месяц назад
personal head cannon of my is from dr who. Missy is the last regen of the Master.
@RenMomoDotPog
@RenMomoDotPog Месяц назад
setting: S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Headcanon: strelok's ears are why he's so good in the zone, he can hear everything (this is a joke, and if you don't get it that's fine)
@kredonystus7768
@kredonystus7768 18 дней назад
Red goes faster for orks is a thing in 40k. Much of the ork lore isn't though, like the ork being killed by a human pointing a finger at them and saying 'bang'.
@DavidLopez-yc2il
@DavidLopez-yc2il Месяц назад
At age 27, I'm surprised we're having this conversation. Maybe, some telling of a repetition of these boundaries might assist these definitions.
@Reoh0z
@Reoh0z Месяц назад
Its my head canon that the Disney Star Wars media is an altered timeline, just like the Kelvin timeline for Star Trek. I bring this up now because I would like this to become Fanon.
@bb1886
@bb1886 Месяц назад
My head cannon is a 12 incher
@TheAngel277
@TheAngel277 5 дней назад
Everything referring to numbers in Star wars on the Republic side of the clone wars it's about 100-1000 times less than what they have. (George Lucas does not understand scale)
@Scaevola9449
@Scaevola9449 Месяц назад
I'm- I'm Harrison's top guy Harrison depends on my to lead the revolution
@Gyro-nb6tp
@Gyro-nb6tp Месяц назад
Wooo
@mill_ania
@mill_ania Месяц назад
My HC is my Lancer pilot is cool and cute and Harrison Armory are piece of shit actually. Jokes aside, honestly getting mad about canon is such an annoying nerd behavior. As long as a different reading or interpretation does not attempt to superceed the actual existing lore, so what? In context of Lancer, for example, I've seen so many different reading of the setting. Some say the utopia is actually a dystopia because the periphery and diaspora are the wild west. Some look at the setting in a more nuanced, sympathetic way. Some misread it and think Harrison Armory did nothing wrong, and all of them can be interesting and, like, prompt for more interesting takes.
@Kuziminski
@Kuziminski Месяц назад
Wait, WHAT, BLACK LIBRARY ISN'T TECHNICALLY CANON? o_0 Holy drek.
@alelouya1
@alelouya1 Месяц назад
Wasn't it GW a while back who said that everything in black library is canon?
@kronos661
@kronos661 Месяц назад
Nah, it was one of the authors. He said that everything both is and isn't canon which is a mentally slowed take.
@hauntorthegiraffebiscuit
@hauntorthegiraffebiscuit Месяц назад
Engaging with the prompt to please the algorithm (and related to Warhammer), I personally subscribe to the idea I had seen in som comment section that one of the lost Primarchs was/became Sigmar. Do I have anything substantial to back it up? No. Do I enjoy the idea too much not to humor it? Absolutely!
@hauntorthegiraffebiscuit
@hauntorthegiraffebiscuit Месяц назад
Then again I’m building a half-pig mutated Ork army for fun and fluff (Calling them POrks, obviously), so I doubt I count as contributing to any larger Fannon.
@kronos661
@kronos661 Месяц назад
That's a good one and rather popular. Sadly there are too many leads towards one beeing killed by rangdans and the other beeing their meat puppet and killed by the imperials.
@mistuh69420
@mistuh69420 Месяц назад
Did you rerelease this?
@RobinAstray
@RobinAstray Месяц назад
My head canon is that you are the central authority on Lancer, until I play in a game where the GM will become the central authority.
@DooWopCinderBlock
@DooWopCinderBlock Месяц назад
In Dungeons & Dragons, goliaths, mountain-dwelling giantkin, (I think they first appeared in Races of Stone 3.5) alopecia is very common. Something about the art I see a lot made me play a character as having it, as a result he was a fan of fancy bandanas as head wraps. No particular reason why goliaths often have alopecia, but they do to me. I believe it is official Realms lore that Eilistraee is the CG daughter of Lolth and Corellon Larethian. What my head cannon is that Eilistraee is often worshiped by trans elves and drow.
@kronos661
@kronos661 Месяц назад
You want some old DND canon? there is a way for surface elf to instantly accept a drow once it comes to the surface. It only needs to be a futanari. They consider that a sign of beeing close to the elven god creator.
@DooWopCinderBlock
@DooWopCinderBlock Месяц назад
@@kronos661 That resurfaced in 5e, or rather the elf's body can change sex over a long rest. I would say intersex variations would be possible at that rate. Different piece of head cannon, air genasi hair normally moves on its own, as if it is a cloud or just windswept. Air genasi children will tease kids whose hair does not do this, which is often a sign that one of their parents is a human or something, rather than two air genasi. My current character wears elaborates hats because of his sisters picking on him.
@redblack9618
@redblack9618 Месяц назад
My Star Wars headcanon is that there is no "light" or "dark" side of the Force. All these arbitrary lines are drawn by people to reinforce their own cultural views. The huge dramatic wars and shifts in "balance" of the Force that people perceive are desperate attempts to draw rules and boundaries around an amoral, disinterested web of life that cares exactly as much about Luke Skywalker as it does about an amoeba being sneezed out by a rodent in a jungle on a planet no space-faring entity has ever visited.
@ragnar40kblackmain
@ragnar40kblackmain Месяц назад
Please take no disrespect from my question I am about to ask Zaktact, what spurred you to make this video? This seems so out of the blue. Also for those who do not know, "Canon" is short for the word "canonical". 1. according to or ordered by canon law. "the canonical rites of the Roman Church" 2. included in the list of sacred books officially accepted as genuine. "the canonical Gospels of the New Testament"
@Kennyselman
@Kennyselman Месяц назад
Transition in any magic or future setting (Harry Potter, 40k, etc) would be accessible by anyone, because, hey, The Imperium of Man, you need gender transition? Yeah, 30 minute surgery by a member of the adeptus mechanichus specializing in flesh crafting, but no anesthesia, but you get TWO WHOLE DAYS OFF TO RECOVER. After that, you get all your IDs updated, and move on. Also, no one cares if you're gay, bi, pan, etc...but also if you're into all kinds of horrible things, that is accepted too...because the 41st Millenium is HORRIBLE.
@stasbiestek995
@stasbiestek995 Месяц назад
So the only "major" thing I have done for head cannon, when not making my own bloody campaign for D&D or pathfinder, is a corporation from the game Hc Svnt Draconis or HSD for short. At the time there was no lumens in the setting and so I figured since everything has corporations and there are only like 6 major ones, that one of the lesser known ones had some interesting stuff and acted more like a mobile fleet than a down to earth company.
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