Canyon Endurace vs Giant Defy | BATTLE of The Endurance Bikes | 2020 Bike of The Year 

Can You recommend that bike for a 195cm and 107kg guy...? Other than that i think You made the right choice for this category

Fast high racer recumbent bikes like Lightning P38, Cruzbike Vendetta, Cruzbike Silvio, Bachetta Carbon Aero, Carbent Raven, M5 carbon high racer

I would like to know the other top 10 contenders

@@haroldhdknoxstreet-glide5331 I'd go with the canyon because they have 2XL size. I'm 203 cm and I weigh the same as you, that's the one I went with. Giant doesn't have anything as large.

Where is the mention of Trek Domane 2020 model. Best endurance bike in my opinion

EnduRace.

Steve King as long as it’s the same frame/cockpit with the excellent seat post as you go down the range I wouldn’t expect much if any ride difference, it’s just slightly better components you’re paying for. As for the brake rub the only time I notice it is when going through a puddle, I’ve been out in the rain for a few hours with no problems but it’s just the odd time they get submerged like through a stream for example, the only other time when it was squeaking I realised that I didn’t have the skewers quite tight enough. I tend to clean them now and then with Muc Off - disc cleaner which is supposed to help.

@Aidan Masterson What gearing do you have on your canyon?? He said on the review that it’s got 50/34 front chain rings, but on the canyon website it clearly states 52/36??? Did they get the gearing wrong on the review or is it a miss print on the canyon website? Thanks in advance.

Steve of Staffordshire it’s a 52/36 in the video @4:54 you can screenshot and zoom in. It’s the same as the website says and Canyon confirmed this to be the spec. too

I've just bought a 2018 Endurace CF with mechanical 105 and rim brakes. Like you, the XXL sizing is the reason. I'm 6ft 8" and it feels like a perfect fit for me. My first ride on it was today and it performed beautifully. Very fast and comfortable.

@ Hugues Québécois Well of course it makes you smile more. Argon18 is a Quebec company.

Great to hear you liked them and thanks for watching from your friends at BikeRadar!

If you want to see old designs - at least in terms of geometry - look no further than Trek and Specialized. They are as conservative as they come and still design frames as if it were 1975. Slow handling and shallow seat tubes - just like Greg Lemond and Bernard Hinault used to ride...

Todd Donovan You act like you haven’t seen the new Domane & Roubaix with their attenuation gadgetry. Of course, maybe you were primarily referring to handling.

@@todddonovan9780 Domane has huge tire clearance. Quite groundbreaking imo

Probably paid to promote these honestly which is why the other competitors where left out.

@@crislee4057 Domane is insanely heavier than most of these other options. More than 20 pounds weight. Matters a lot if you live in hilly place.

i have a Giant Defy from a few years back and love it!! done a 100 mile ride and wasn't dead at the end. I would have to choose the GIANT

darthjohn0 got the flash blue in December - best looking bike I’ve ever seen. The performance and ride feel is even better than the looks!

Could always use the Defy and just get a trailer like the burley Coho.

Wow, good to know. Here I was all ready to pull the trigger on the Defy. I will look elsewhere.

Wrong, the giant defy advanced pro 0 2019 is 7.68 kg

Ivo Roilev yes it works well you feel the flex working smoothing the ride, great technology

Eliot Wolfert voids based on a 6-8 year old frame that we never got any proof or photos of them.

For disclosure, I’ve owned both of these bikes in the past, I sold the Defy and kept the Endurace. I also have a Giant Propel that I absolutely love. Between the 2, it covers everything I want for road cycling.

I have a Merida Silex 700 (gravel bike) and now bought a canyon endurace - the canyon endurace is more race than endurance I think. The Merida gravel bike has a much more endurace character for me than the canyon. The canyon is a fast stiff roadmachine - I love it (but only for rides which are not more than 12 hours long). The Merida is a 24 hours drive machine, but I think it's not just the geometry but also the aluminium frame which flexes more.

Stack is probably the same i.e. the drop. However reach can vary by seatpost setback, stem (might be the same for both bikes in a given size I dont know), handlebar reach, seat angle etc

Different seat and head tube angles

I have the SLX version and has exactly the same issue on the front brake/fork... It takes sometimes 1 or 2 minutes to stop with this tricky noise....

I was wondering if I had gone crazy or my bike was just wrong. Got mine at the end of last season and have just been on my first few rides of the year here in MN. Have the front rotors properly aligned and the through axle tight, but still getting that. Mine came with the Mavic Ksyrium wheelset though.

Same here! No problems at all when riding normally, but when standing up I get the "klink-klink-klink" - might be the fork flexing?

@@David_B777 What's your experience with the Mavic wheels? Do you stick with the stock tyre brand or have you used other tyre brands on wheels and how is the fit?

@@ifeuma so far so good. Only have a few rides on them. Have only used the yksion ust tubeless tires.

It's to make sure your eyes are glued to the road. Vanity kills.

I own one and I think it’s fugly. You quickly forget once you start riding

Yep! Hideous

Yeah, it looks like a turd. Though I think I am getting used to it. But at least you can change something as simple as a stem without having to change the whole bars too, inc disconnecting, re-routing your brake hoses, and then re-bleeding the whole system. It's just because marketing says "we must have concealed cables, because people want to be more aero" The engineers reply and say it will make f*** all difference to 99.99999% of people that ride it, and if the fat gits want to be more aero they should bend their elbows by another degree, and to stop undoing all their nice weight savings with pies while they're at it.. Marketing comes back from focus groups to report that that won't go down well, and does anyone know how to stop a nose from bleeding? Also, that people do like the integrated bar & stems that more and more other bikes are getting. Then the mechanics spit out their tea and tell them to f*** off, they're not servicing that! It's just too much of a faff. But they would grudgingly accept that hideous stem contraption from the Propel. The engineers like this idea, because it's aero, and they don't have to reinvent the wheel. But marketing comes back saying everyone hated that one because it made their eyes bleed, it was just that ugly. Corporate calls up to ask why the new bike isn't finished yet, and they have 2 weeks or heads will roll. So then engineers have this contradicting brief and come up 2 designs, one NASA would be proud of, looks beautiful but is made of unobtainium and costs £500 each to make and the 2nd design that uses 50p of plastic to cover the cable with, which was only ever meant to be for the wind tunnel model but they thought they would throw it in 5 mins before the deadline, because they were so focused on the NASA one, they forgot to make an alternate design. As soon as corporate sees the cost slide of the presentation they unanimously decide on the chincy plastic cover. At this point engineering just wants to be done with the whole thing and not redesign it to look slightly better at the risk that it gets rejected again because now there are too many fingers in the pie, so they just send the plans over to the factory and go back to playing with their nice fancy stem.

Its dumb and ugly. Rose did much better with the new Reveal( Hidden housing, standard stem)

Andy, August 2019 lots of videos touting the greatness of the Caynon Endurace SLX 8 DI2 , read several reviews and ordered and paid. Within a week I started hearing about customer service issues, read TrustPilot posts, some good but lots of others were unhappy. Customer waiting months for clear and simple issues to be resolved, you could feel their pain. Canyon billed my credit card for more than their online quote/ invoice, shipping was added in, was suppose to be free, on request charge was removed. Received the bike assembled it...short ride, loved it, fast, great breaking, smooth shifting... more like a Giant TCR not an endurance bike in my opinion. Boxed it up and shipped it back. What weighed on me was customer service reviews (they are painful), bought a Defy carbon, ultegra NOT DI2 knowing Giant has very good customer support. All I could think of was a four day Boston to Montreal ride and having issues that would take months to address, My Defy is not as sporty but it is dependable, comfortable and I have peace of mind. If Canyon can resolve their service issues I'll be back in a few years. GL to all.

That would depend upon frame and foot size.

Its isnt a good Endurance Bike

Bike stand

Gedeon Preobrazhenskiĭ it comes standard with that model of the Canyon Endurace as well as the CFSL 8.0

Hey, that giant comes with this extra funky hydraulic whatever adapter on your stem for $3000. More aero right?

how much did you buy it for?

How are you liking your defy advanced 2? I'm planning on purchasing the same bike when it becomes available again. It will be my first road bike.

I don't think it made the top 5

Rob Lodge I think it was the price? The equivalent Domane with Di2 is huge money.

I'm 5'11". Medium is perfect for me. Used to have the M/L Defy but changed to a medium when I got my 2019 Defy. Much more comfortable for me

I bought a Canyon Ultimate and just built it up a few days ago. I was always on a 56cm frame that most companies would consider a large. The Canyon website fit calculator using inseam and height said I was a small canyon frame. Instead I used their stack and reach measurements in the geometry chart and found that the stack and reach of the medium was very close to the large 56 of my prior bike (scott addict). The canyon medium was about 2-3mm smaller in both stack and reach. Another point to know is the cockpit dimensions in the geometry chart (i.e. 100 - 410 for a medium frame) means 100mm from fork tube center to the bottom edge of the flats. You need to add 10mm to that stated bar length to campare to a nkrmal stem, so the Canyon 100 really measures 110mm. Adding this bar length to the reach figure should give you a close comparison to an existing preferred set up. I went from my scott 56 large with a 100mm stem to the canyon ultimate medium with their 110mm stem. That got me a really similar fit. Basically seems like Canyon sizes small, medium, large etc. run bigger than other companies small, medium, large. I was always stuck in between most companies medium and larges, and the Canyon medium was perfectly in between for me. Hope this helps with a search in the smaller frame sizes as well.

@@markflis7806 that's really good information, thanks! Now if only they had something in stock

Probably, my LBS says they sell way more gravel bikes than endurance bikes these days, and the gravel bike buyers are mostly buying them for all arounders.

yip you were correct I bought a Giant Revolt Advanced 0 the 2022 model, My 2017 Giant Defy Advanced 2 is my road Bike, I'm limited to 28mm Tires.

Lbs support and warranty goes yo giant.

If your LBS won't take your money to service your Canyon, you need to find another LBS. I'll trust a German-engineered and assembled bike coming from *one* plant in Koblenz rather than a zillion of the same bikes coming off some Chinese assembly line.

@@robertcalton9198 I think you're not giving credit where it's due. The Chinese are masters of manufacturing. In economics we learn that Western countries are have a competitive advantage in innovation. China has their's in skilled and unskilled labor. Just keep that in mind before you summarize an entire country's primary industry.

Giant defy advanced pro 0 2019 is ultegra di2, plus has a power sensor.

What about the roubaix?

@@tbrowniscool I don't find the bacl and front in sync

@@ronitdebnath how do you mean? My roubaix is so good and balanced.

@@tbrowniscool You can't say that without riding the others.

@@ronitdebnath just my opinion. Worthless I'm sure

That sort of illogical company bias will waste you a lot of money in your lifetime lol

I'm toying with this idea too instead of the Ultegra version. Let me know what you think!

Nick, no regrets. A long time since I’ve used a Shimano group set and I cant believe how light the gear changes are. Can’t imagine needing anything better than 105. I’ve only done about 120 miles on the bike so far but they’ve been the most comfortable I’ve ever had on a non-suspended bike. It climbs, handles and still only weighs 18lbs (medium frame without pedals). I’m a weekend warrior, and for my purposes it’ll do everything I’m going to need it for. Only other spec difference I can see is an alloy D-Fuse bar rather than a carbon one

Duh?

endurance bike, not race bike

You'd have to say anywhere from 50 - 100 miles, so more like 3 - 7 hours.