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Capitalism is good. Let me explain. 

Sabine Hossenfelder
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Is capitalism the reason the world is going to hell in a hand basket? Or is it going to save us? What is capitalism anyway? How does money work and when do free markets fail? This video is a brief summary of a dip I did into microeconomics literature in a dark hour of my life.
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00:24 Money
03:17 Capitalism
08:26 Microeconomics
10:33 Externalities
12:35 Consumers and the Social Cost of Carbon
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Комментарии : 26 тыс.   
@SabineHossenfelder
@SabineHossenfelder 9 месяцев назад
A lot of people here confuse capitalism with deregulation. I did not anticipate this point to be so widely misunderstood. If I had, I would have stressed it more. I am sorry in case I caused confusion.
@canonicaltom
@canonicaltom 9 месяцев назад
You're confusing capitalism and markets, which are not related in any way.
@jahnotreal
@jahnotreal 9 месяцев назад
I think the negative feedback is a little deeper than that, but that’s a story for another time… (L + Ratio 💀)
@TWaveform
@TWaveform 9 месяцев назад
What I find surprising is that you use the same argument that many communists do: "it was just never applied right!", when there's no need for such an argument, since capitalism is not an ideology, but a system that emerged and was later described by economists.
@bladdnun3016
@bladdnun3016 9 месяцев назад
You still don't seem to get the criticism. People are telling you that you are the one who doesn't fully grasp what capitalism is. 'Free markets + rules' is a gross oversimplification and the way you portray money as an alternative to barter has been thoroughly debunked. You attempt to vindicate capitalism, but you do so by just handwaving away all of its problems (which are not only caused by deregulation). You're out of your depth here and you should admit it.
@Vera22101
@Vera22101 9 месяцев назад
You can't do this in 16min. 16 one-hour lectures would perhaps make for a decent introduction. Confusion, or rather irritation, is caused by this fairy tale-version of capitalism, for it being utterly superficial & uncritical to the point of negligence.
@guybunchofnumbers123
@guybunchofnumbers123 8 месяцев назад
"We just need to use capitalism the right way" is the same argument as "just one more lane, that will fix traffic I promise"
@marcocappelli5124
@marcocappelli5124 8 месяцев назад
Adam Something fan?
@MUZUKUN-YT
@MUZUKUN-YT 8 месяцев назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@MUZUKUN-YT
@MUZUKUN-YT 8 месяцев назад
​@@marcocappelli5124Doesn't matter. Cars need to die anyways. They're a waste of space.
@marcocappelli5124
@marcocappelli5124 8 месяцев назад
@@MUZUKUN-YT I'm an Adam Something fan myself. I'd say that cars and other individual vehicles are useful in areas where mass transportation can't be developed. In high density areas, of course, they should be discarded.
@vitulus_
@vitulus_ 8 месяцев назад
No, it's not. Adding government regulations solves the issue. Adding one more lane can paradoxically worsen traffic. I can't think of any economic system that doesn't have issues that have to be addressed by the government in the chaotic environment of the real world. It's just how the economy works.
@Simson616
@Simson616 9 месяцев назад
Anybody remember the Nestlé leader board member arguing for why drinking water shouldn't be free?
@1GTX1
@1GTX1 9 месяцев назад
Water is free in your country? I get a bill every month here in Balkans and water is polluted by bad maintenance. My sister and her family only buys water from shop, 2$ for 6 litres.
@VeteranVandal
@VeteranVandal 9 месяцев назад
​@@1GTX1in my country, depending on the place, we can pick water for free. You have to go there and transport the water, but it's possible to do it.
@MrOzzification
@MrOzzification 9 месяцев назад
He argued that water actually shouldn't be a human right. If it were, then Nestle wouldn't be able to privately own water reserves in dozens of countries around the world.
@user-sl6gn1ss8p
@user-sl6gn1ss8p 9 месяцев назад
@@1GTX1usually the fee is a distribution, treatment and waste management fee, not a price on the water. Like, I'm not the defending the way it works or anything, and in practice it does put a price on the access to water, just saying, the theory is usually that this is not a price put on the water itself. Of course this is a lot harder to defend when the distribution system is made private and for profit.
@gpsboladao8874
@gpsboladao8874 9 месяцев назад
Privatization has jeopardized distribution in many places in my country because the distribution just isnt profitable. Yay capitalism🎉
@m4rt_
@m4rt_ 4 месяца назад
"This is why we have laws against that" ... and the people avoiding those laws are either paying the people enforcing the laws, or optimizing how close to the sun they can fly before they fall, some can do it, some fall, and some get away with flying too close.
@andre-vm
@andre-vm 7 месяцев назад
Here's a list of all the parts in which she says "but that's another story": 2:35 - Fiat money / cryptocurrencies 7:23 - Marx 8:01 - Different ways of governing a capitalist state 9:37 - Microeconomics shortcomings 11:46 - Water pollution (here she used “different” story, rather than “another" story) 13:50 - Social cost of carbon
@victoitor
@victoitor 4 месяца назад
@@first-last-null It's actually only really good for the top 0.01%. The other part of that 5% would still have it better if people could kick out the capitalist class from government permanently.
@AriesCorinthier
@AriesCorinthier 4 месяца назад
Can't be spouting opinions on topics you don't understand. That would be disingenuous​@@first-last-null
@5Gazto
@5Gazto 3 месяца назад
Yeah, I thought they were only two. This video is really low-brow.
@appleturnover519
@appleturnover519 3 месяца назад
Are you thinking of savage capitalism? Regulated capitalism as that in effect in the Scandinavian countries seems to work pretty well.@@5Gazto
@safe4883
@safe4883 2 месяца назад
Scandinavian countries use a mixed-market economy combining elements of both socialism and capitalism. I believe that the capitalist part is (mainly) their free market. They also have a generous welfare system (the socialist part). Calling them capitalist would be innacurate, as a mixed-market economy is an economic system in itslef.@@appleturnover519
@tonykaze
@tonykaze 8 месяцев назад
This video was a shock. I watch every video Sabine releases. This is the first time I've seen her do many things... such as: 1) abandon topics she actually knows about 2) make a video without doing any relevant research 3) blindly spew an almost religious level of dogmatic propaganda 4) just be so blatantly wrong on virtually every asserted fact, both historical and present-day. Feels a lot more like a PragerU disinformation course than a Sabine video. Is it April fools or something?
@TheVefIt
@TheVefIt 8 месяцев назад
right? is like some billionare put a gun on her head "either die or make a video defending capitalism TODAY, no, there is not time for you to research, if you do I'll finance the rest of your research career".
@BatLunette
@BatLunette 8 месяцев назад
this is far from the first time for her. Many people noticed the same things about the videos she made about other social groups. Basically, if you don't belong to those groups, you could accidentally not notice her doing same things before.
@tonykaze
@tonykaze 8 месяцев назад
@@BatLunette - fair, I can't say I've seen them all, nor am I necessarily knowledgeable enough on every subject to notice it. - but on this one I am and ... ugh. just ugh.
@gelinrefira
@gelinrefira 8 месяцев назад
Yea, the way she explains capitalism is like hearing a homeopathic practitioner explains medicine. It is like explaining why things float in water by saying that thing is lighter than water, so therefore wood floats and steel sinks. She is right on some very narrow aspects of capitalism that makes it a good economic, while ignoring (deliberately or by ignorance) everything else about capitalism that makes it a terribly cruel economic system. As a chemist, it reminds me of hearing people denouncing something as bad because it has chemicals with long names in it. Who pays you Sabine, to make this stupid video? The US government's disinformation warfare unit? Koch foundation? Milton Friedman's ghost?
@ellebarron7112
@ellebarron7112 8 месяцев назад
Im gonna be real, probably paid off to make this video. I wouldn't be shocked if some of her other videoes were too, but she is at least informed on those topics and interested in exploring it genuinely. But this one feels like shes just a mouthpiece for investors
@santicruz4012
@santicruz4012 8 месяцев назад
I remember when Dr Sabine scolded and other scientists for stepping out of their expertise and talked nonsense.
@maiconfaria
@maiconfaria 8 месяцев назад
good times.
@dschwalm7
@dschwalm7 8 месяцев назад
She's actually pretty spot on, from an economic perspective.
@eqfan592
@eqfan592 8 месяцев назад
​@dschwalm7 no, she's not. Like, not even at all
@xGaLoSx
@xGaLoSx 8 месяцев назад
this isn't really controversial or up for debate. Capitalism has done wonders for humanity.
@clorox1676
@clorox1676 8 месяцев назад
@@xGaLoSx Let me fix that comment for you: "capitalism has done wonders for some"
@VolkerHett
@VolkerHett 8 месяцев назад
As somebody who studied economics (micro and macro) and business administration, I should now make a video about loop quantum gravity.
@munkeepawify
@munkeepawify 7 месяцев назад
LOL. Good point
@djgroopz4952
@djgroopz4952 6 месяцев назад
That's probably not how it works. A person who studies Quantum physics is more likely to understand economics than the other way round.
@filippocernuschi6715
@filippocernuschi6715 6 месяцев назад
@@djgroopz4952maybe that is the case…she definitely isn’t a good example though
@thatguyyouhatealot
@thatguyyouhatealot 6 месяцев назад
​@@djgroopz4952That's clearly not true though, as this video proves
@Loots1
@Loots1 6 месяцев назад
LMAO
@user-jr3zr2mp9c
@user-jr3zr2mp9c 8 месяцев назад
This is like the meme of "if somebody is trying to rob you, just say no, its illegal to take your things without your consent"
@VeteranVandal
@VeteranVandal 8 месяцев назад
This also illustrates why regulations can't save capitalism, by the way.
@MagDrag123
@MagDrag123 7 месяцев назад
Companies when they're fined $10 million for breaking a law and making $100 million: "Oh no! So anyway..."
@DaDARKPass
@DaDARKPass 6 месяцев назад
@@VeteranVandal Except LOTS of regulations have worked exactly how they should.
@cooterhead_jones
@cooterhead_jones 6 месяцев назад
Is making $100,000 a crime in itself? I would really like to see some examples of a company being able to pay $10 million in order to acquire $100 million. If true, they should do that all day long, every day, and tell me how can participate. I cant wait to hear you say you wouldnt sign up for such a deal. You could start small, sau $10,000 for $100,000. @@MagDrag123
@VeteranVandal
@VeteranVandal 5 месяцев назад
@@DaDARKPass ... Only temporarily.
@m.e.345
@m.e.345 9 месяцев назад
I remember my economics professor saying that most people think that the job of economists is to advise governments, when instead it is more common for governments to hire economists to justify their policies.
@rcmrcm3370
@rcmrcm3370 9 месяцев назад
Usually it's the oligarchy who trained and insert economists into think tanks and universities to help sell legislation they paid for.
@DrDeuteron
@DrDeuteron 9 месяцев назад
That works for scientists now, too.
@georgH
@georgH 9 месяцев назад
Same here
@Ryanowning
@Ryanowning 9 месяцев назад
@@rcmrcm3370 Russia's economy isn't really capitalist in the Western sense of the word; due to the fact that capitalism has been proven to be more of a technology than a choice the ex-Communist states decided to develop their own forms of capitalism. Otherwise it's not easy to know what you're talking about since most countries don't have oligarchs. Unless you're talking about that false assessment that the US is an oligarchy? We're closer than not which is scary enough, but we're not an oligarchy. The likes of Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg hate each other enough to not conspire.
@ecoista1373
@ecoista1373 9 месяцев назад
@@rcmrcm3370 accurate
@ghahate18
@ghahate18 8 месяцев назад
I like how in her view capitalism is trusted and cant be corrupted because its illegal
@michimatsch5862
@michimatsch5862 8 месяцев назад
I mean, that's why nobody at all is getting murdered in lots of countries anymore. Cuz it's illegal.
@ishredder4006
@ishredder4006 8 месяцев назад
I heard they were roasting her in the comments and I came here to laugh. So worth it.😂
@crimson4066
@crimson4066 8 месяцев назад
Sabine should be ashamed. Yet again, she proves she has no freaking clue what she's talking about. I'm so sick of scientists - like Sabine H. - using their platform and degree to discuss things they have ZERO knowledge about. They take away credibility from every other legitimate scientist and researcher.
@dylanburnett7928
@dylanburnett7928 8 месяцев назад
@@crimson4066 You typed 3 sentences and said absolutely nothing. You should be proud, most people have to try to be as useless as you.
@nerdwisdomyo9563
@nerdwisdomyo9563 8 месяцев назад
Ok well that wasn’t exactly the point shes making, in the same way every other law works you investigate change and punish law breakers, literally no one is saying that if it becomes illegal companies wont do it Im not here to defend capitalism its just that she mentioned punishments enforce laws, so I don’t think this is the strongest point Maybe criticize her for saying capitalism can help get people medicine by sick people being a market, she didn’t mention how in areas heavily affected by disease tend to be poor and people might not be able to afford medicine or get exploited paying, and the historical element
@Paulo-ut1li
@Paulo-ut1li 8 месяцев назад
You can compare this video with Albert Einstein's article "Why Socialism?" and understand that physicists also can have a profound view of economy and politics, if they are Albert Einstein.
@criticalrevel
@criticalrevel 4 месяца назад
1. socialism, communism and politics alike aren't something that u can exhert nor talk about in a vacuum. because it's a WORLD view. not an asolated form of government. 2. the only thing CLOSE to communism was URSS during a small period of time and cuba which ... are US blocated until today btw... 3. it *sounds* (correct me if im wrong), that since he's einstein he cant be wrong bout a matter of things... sure he's an expert in his field of study and is an intelegent person, on the other hand he's also known for being abusive to women. and those kind of ppl cant empathize nor care bout common people well being...
@paavoilves5416
@paavoilves5416 3 месяца назад
@@criticalrevel Just because the USSR wasn't successful, it doesn't mean it wasn't communist.
@appleturnover519
@appleturnover519 3 месяца назад
@@criticalrevel "known for being abusive to women" ...So you use hearsay as some sort of argument of discourse?!!
@sudjen
@sudjen 3 месяца назад
Einstein was also a terrible person, but you socialists seem to completely disregard that
@BusinessGamesAI
@BusinessGamesAI 2 месяца назад
This is the best diss I read in a long time, THANK YOU 🙏
@andreiionescu4420
@andreiionescu4420 8 месяцев назад
So fun when all problems are answered with "but that's another story"
@user-cc2it7ix5q
@user-cc2it7ix5q 3 месяца назад
Also nothing about capitalism itself can be understood by audience. Why capitalists tend to create monopolies in their respective markets? What differs capitalism from feudalism or socialism? Socialist countries mentioned by Sabina have markets, too and they are regulated, too. Socialist countries also had debt and credit. The theme of ownership of the means of production is essential to capitalism, as well as the theme of capital and profit.
@paavoilves5416
@paavoilves5416 3 месяца назад
@@user-cc2it7ix5q It's very easy to Google definitions of terms, people just don't tend to do that. By their broadest definitions, capitalism is private (individuals/businesses) ownership of means of production, socialism is public (state) ownership of means of production. Of course these terms have subdivisions like under capitalism there's laizzes faire, keynesianism etc and under socialism there's communism, nazism etc.
@Someone.....................
@Someone..................... 3 месяца назад
​@@paavoilves5416NAZISM A FORM OF SOCIALISM?!?! SUDDENDLY THE RIGHT IS LEFT?!? Wow, just wow.
@paavoilves5416
@paavoilves5416 3 месяца назад
@@Someone..................... Maybe you should check out what the National Socialists (nazis) advocated for and how similar their economic system was to the USSR and Marx's ideas. They called themselves socialists for a reason.
@minhnguyenphanhoang4193
@minhnguyenphanhoang4193 2 месяца назад
@@Someone.....................You know that economics and society policies are 2 different issues, right ?
@Edmonddantes123
@Edmonddantes123 8 месяцев назад
As an economist myself, I have to say, I really like your physics videos. Maybe keep making those
@vebdaklu
@vebdaklu 8 месяцев назад
Excellent point, mate! But I guess being a grifter pays bettee than doing research. Funny, I heard capitalism encourages innovation. 😂
@VeteranVandal
@VeteranVandal 8 месяцев назад
It's interesting that she engaged in an ideologic defense of capitalism, being a physicist, you'd expect a more materialist analysis.
@phiscz
@phiscz 8 месяцев назад
@@VeteranVandal well, noone's immune to propoganda. especially as someone currently enrolled in a computer science program, most of the stemlords i've personally met are most bought into the same
@princeofexcess
@princeofexcess 8 месяцев назад
Maybe you should find a better way to criticize videos. What exactly are you doing here but saying look at me I got a degree and i disagree.That is not useful to anyone.
@TheLetsRead
@TheLetsRead 8 месяцев назад
@@princeofexcessmaybe you should read what people who want to waste their time arguing wrote rather than the dude with better things to do (sadly that’s not me, i should be sleeping rn). also not an invitation to debate, just calling you silly, silly billy ❤
@denj96
@denj96 2 месяца назад
"Capitalism is good, except for when it isn't, but that's another story." Phenomenal.
@gundabalf
@gundabalf 14 дней назад
on the other hand, communism isn't good for anything
@mrubengmail
@mrubengmail 8 месяцев назад
I highly value Sabine's physics videos, and view her as an excellent science communicator. But even putting aside one's opinions about capitalism, the foundational explanation here about how and why money was created is demonstrably incorrect, and grievously so. It's well known - and has been pointed out repeatedly by Sabine herself - that scholarly expertise tends to be as narrow as it is deep, and this video seems to be a great example of that truism. From the initial "don't believe Greta Thunberg and don't believe RFK Jr" statement, it seems Sabine feels like she's taking a reasonable middle ground here - but reason, as Sabine always reminds us, can't be reasonable unless it's based on good evidence. And the evidence in this video is quite poor.
@ericomfg
@ericomfg 6 месяцев назад
Huh, why was money created?
@mrubengmail
@mrubengmail 6 месяцев назад
@@ericomfg I'd recommend researching, or just doing a quick Google search, as it will provide some helpful info. Briefly, my understanding is that systems of credit and debt existed long before money, and that there's pretty strong anthropological/archaeological evidence that money existed before barter. So money was not created out of barter systems. I'm persuaded by David Graeber's argument that money was created with the rise of states, in order to fund large-scale armies. In other words, money is a political form created to enable state expenditures on a large scale.
@jimmymulder276
@jimmymulder276 6 месяцев назад
@@ericomfg Debt: the first 5000 years - David Graeber. Despite centuries of archeologists desperately trying to prove this "bartering chickens and eggs and bananas is too hard so we invented money"-theory, and they failed. In the history of mankind there has never been a civilization that we know of where people traded chickens for fish. There have been gift economies, palace economies, maybe other types that I don't remember, but no barter economies. Money was created to keep track of debts and punishments.
@nothingissimplewithlloyd
@nothingissimplewithlloyd 6 месяцев назад
Her likening capitalism to market economics is like me making a science video likening an electron to a planetary system. It’s a fundamentally incorrect analogy that the science has completely rejected.
@ericomfg
@ericomfg 6 месяцев назад
@@nothingissimplewithlloyd capitalism is all about markets.....??
@MrBeen992
@MrBeen992 9 месяцев назад
and this episode was sponsored by PragerU and ReasonTV....and Briliant
@ishredder4006
@ishredder4006 8 месяцев назад
😂😂
@TiberionMarivallis
@TiberionMarivallis 8 месяцев назад
You forgot the Mont Pelerin Society.
@lolimmune
@lolimmune 8 месяцев назад
And epoch news
@vitulus_
@vitulus_ 8 месяцев назад
The ideas are supported by the majority of people who spend their lives studying these things. Capitalism is a good economic system, and it has been shown to be the case time and time again through scientific study.
@reasonerenlightened2456
@reasonerenlightened2456 8 месяцев назад
Sabine likes the Wealthy so much.
@vylbird8014
@vylbird8014 8 месяцев назад
Your example is penicillin? I think you might be a bit off on your history there: The mass-production research was done by two groups. One in the UK, one in the US. Neither of which was done using investor money in expectation of a return. It was 1940-1943 when this happened, and a drug that would stop soldiers dying in field hospitals was of obvious application - both groups were government funded, in the belief that the research would be of value to the military.
@nothingissimplewithlloyd
@nothingissimplewithlloyd 6 месяцев назад
Everything in this video is a joke. Sabinne should be smarter than this.
@SJDPS
@SJDPS 5 месяцев назад
I agree with you, and your argument remind me of Technics and Civilization by Lewis Mumford. If I recall correctly, one of the main ideas in Technics and Civilization is analyzing across different ages the relation between technology (or technique) and the development of human civilization: Power: to acquire and control more resources through warfare. Warfare seeks for improvement in weapons, communications, infrastructure through Technique (Technology) New technology is discovered by scientific discoveries And technology shapes power structures within societies.
@yuuyahiguchi7235
@yuuyahiguchi7235 Месяц назад
Isn't it also capitalism? The government funded the research believing it will bring value to the military.The way you described it sounds to me it's capitalism.
@vylbird8014
@vylbird8014 Месяц назад
@@yuuyahiguchi7235 Only if you stretch the definition to the point it loses any meaning.
@yuuyahiguchi7235
@yuuyahiguchi7235 Месяц назад
@@vylbird8014 I see, but who gets to decide its limitations of definition? Also what is it then if it is not capitalism? Looks to me there were people that were willing to trade their labour for monetary gains here.
@CaptainLeif161
@CaptainLeif161 8 месяцев назад
This comments section is golden. Sabine, you have scolded other creators before for making fools of themselves by stepping out of their field of expertise. I think that boomerang has come back around.
@lobotomizedamericans
@lobotomizedamericans 8 месяцев назад
Did it ever. And it came back like one of those big ol' Australian ones, too. The one's that'll send a mf to the emergency room for a week.
@shraka
@shraka 8 месяцев назад
@@lobotomizedamericans I'm pretty sure they're all Australian.
@lobotomizedamericans
@lobotomizedamericans 8 месяцев назад
@@shraka Talkin' about genu-ine made in Australia baby. Not some cheap Chinese plastic shit.
@shraka
@shraka 8 месяцев назад
@@lobotomizedamericans I see. Sinophobia is a bit on the nose though mate.
@lobotomizedamericans
@lobotomizedamericans 8 месяцев назад
@@shraka 0% Sinophobia, 100% factophilia.
@robertocabral9907
@robertocabral9907 7 месяцев назад
How to defend capitalism in 16 minutes: say all the good things about it; and about the bad things, just say: "That is another story."
@gsdgsdgdhsadds
@gsdgsdgdhsadds 9 месяцев назад
Sabine's channel is on such a weird arc. These non-physics videos are so much less objective, yet she acts as authority. I hate when experts in one area act like a know-it-all in topics they only have surface knowledge of.
@sprayoregon822
@sprayoregon822 9 месяцев назад
actually that's exactly what capitalism does: she is launching a new product line because the profits from the old one just don't cut it no mo.
@hoochygucci9432
@hoochygucci9432 9 месяцев назад
Exactly. She needs to read Chomsky. You don't want to live in Cuba? FFS. Does she know about the blockade?
@Audio_noodle
@Audio_noodle 9 месяцев назад
@@hoochygucci9432 isn't chomsky fairly tankie lol
@jesan733
@jesan733 9 месяцев назад
@@hoochygucci9432 nobody needs to read Chomsky and his extreme anti-US anti-capitalist bias, especially not now when Russian propaganda is everywhere anyways.
@weneedcriticalthinking
@weneedcriticalthinking 9 месяцев назад
She is a tool for the dollar war economy and acts like she is expert on the subjects she talks about many times when she is not many times.
@CrashPreinsertion
@CrashPreinsertion 9 месяцев назад
One of the often unstated problems of free markets is that every agent in that free market is trying to make it as un-free as possible for the other agents.
@freesk8
@freesk8 9 месяцев назад
And the solution is to deny the power to politicians to grant un-free advantages to the big corporations who want to bribe them to gain those un-free advantages.
@videos5923
@videos5923 9 месяцев назад
This is just wrong. It is much more effective to cooperate than to make everybody body else your enemy. And most companies know that.
@Domesticated_Ape
@Domesticated_Ape 9 месяцев назад
A significant problem for anarcho capitalism!
@crabby7668
@crabby7668 9 месяцев назад
Government is usually the worst example
@dannyarcher6370
@dannyarcher6370 9 месяцев назад
And that should be one of government's very FEW responsibilities. Making sure that agents get beaten down to size when they get too big for their britches.
@ddd-cm1yk
@ddd-cm1yk 6 месяцев назад
USA big companies using cheap labor here in my country in the PH. And the wages are not liveable. How is that good?
@notyouraveragecomment1328
@notyouraveragecomment1328 Месяц назад
Exactly
@Eleku
@Eleku Месяц назад
How much did the wages increase in the last 10 and 20 years because of these companies?
@jadbiz
@jadbiz 23 дня назад
@@Eleku I rather take my chances unemployed than work for shit salary.
@Gogolade
@Gogolade 23 дня назад
​@@jadbizmay I ask in which country you live? How would you fund your life if you were unemployed? What would be your advice to a worker in Vietnam? Just stop working. Be unemployed, because you can't have a high salary? The world would descend into mass poverty and starvation.
@vasconcelossentimento
@vasconcelossentimento 9 дней назад
@@Gogolade The world has already descended into mass poverty and starvation, it all depends on your threshold. Informal work is much more common in the third world for the reason that decent paying jobs are scarce and heavily competed and poor paying jobs are sometimes not even worth it and ppl would rather have a bunch of side gigs. The advice is the same, do whats best for you. Multinational companies don't go to the third world offering sick benefits and good salaries, thats why they go there because they know they can get away with offering so little.
@sporogymno
@sporogymno 7 месяцев назад
"can't we just hold hands and sing around the campfire" vibes but in attempted technical speak
@HarryPalmerOrchestra
@HarryPalmerOrchestra 4 месяца назад
Depends on what's burning in the campfire.
@artistsanomalous7369
@artistsanomalous7369 Месяц назад
That's a pretty good summary of "Das Kapital".
@skaldlouiscyphre2453
@skaldlouiscyphre2453 8 месяцев назад
Sabine 600 years ago: "But for today, feudalism has been incredibly successful in advancing society. To the extent that it has caused us problems, it's because we haven't properly used it."
@dj_laundry_list
@dj_laundry_list 8 месяцев назад
This is a logical fallacy known as a red herring. The counterfactual of what Sabine would have said 600 is not relevant to the arguments presented in the video about the pros and cons of capitalism
@shinigamibourne8445
@shinigamibourne8445 8 месяцев назад
that's a story for another time...
@tobiasc4559
@tobiasc4559 8 месяцев назад
@@dj_laundry_list You may want to look up feudalism. Spoiler: It is a form of government and an economic system.
@Sabeximus
@Sabeximus 8 месяцев назад
@@dj_laundry_listHaha. You don't need mathematical models for something to be economics. Just like you don't need to know how gravity works for it to exist.
@PC42190
@PC42190 8 месяцев назад
@@tobiasc4559 just as capitalism is. Separating politics from the economy is just liberal fantasy
@nara4420
@nara4420 9 месяцев назад
What does it cost to buy the rules ? What does it cost to break the rules ? What does it cost to hire someone who do it for you ? ... these rules are not like the rules of physics - they can be broken, and they are - that's part of the game !
@johnnonamegibbon3580
@johnnonamegibbon3580 9 месяцев назад
No, markets are my religion! My professor said free markets are real and good and I believe him!
@greenaum
@greenaum 9 месяцев назад
Right. That's sortof the "Oh shit!" in a system that relies on governments to stop businesses from completely fucking us. When everything has it's price. You can exploit the law with lawyers and accountants, simple bribery, or simple bribery (but you call it "lobbying"). Everything's for sale and that includes people and power. And that's why you may have seen evidence that businesses are completely fucking us.
@0MinusTouch0
@0MinusTouch0 9 месяцев назад
Rules of engagement, not rule of outcome
@VeteranVandal
@VeteranVandal 9 месяцев назад
I don't think Sabine ever thought about the short end of the capitalism stick. Must be nice.
@christophermusgrave2970
@christophermusgrave2970 9 месяцев назад
"Wage Labor" not said once in a video about capitalism. Just pathetic, really.@@VeteranVandal
@Matt-wc5qb
@Matt-wc5qb 7 месяцев назад
This video has the same vibes that a presentation I gave on cybersecurity before I spent years learning it. A lot of my ideas around it back then were logical, but not correct, and some were based on out of date information that has since been revised, but I still didn't know that because I hadn't done any real research. David Graeber's work on debt, governmental systems and trade before capitalism, and before recorded history disproves some of your early points. It doesn't do so by glossing over critiques, criticisms, and ignoring valid arguments intentionally or just to shorten a video. I don't think your point on penicillin holds any water. Penicillin research was funded by governmental research to aid wounded soldiers. There was no capitalist innovation in that. The ability for mass production isn't uniquely capitalist, just the motivations to do so for fulfilling a hole in a market and making profit. Finally, I don't think that listening to economists is going to fix capitalism. There is no incentive to listen to them (unless it means short term profit). Using economist's ideas to fix global warming will not happen as long as economic power can be used to get political power. Using the political power granted by vast amounts of capital to prevent any real regulations is the most efficient solution. This isn't doing capitalism incorrectly, this is doing it optimally. Any change done to fix this system through official means will not happen in time to save us from global warming because capitalism deems it most efficient not to have any changes at all.
@appleturnover519
@appleturnover519 3 месяца назад
This video was an INTRODUCTION to capitalism and not intended to FIX capitalism. If you want to FIX capitalism, find a way to feed the brains of all those Trumpsters out there.
@koryeasterday5164
@koryeasterday5164 8 месяцев назад
Please be nice. Sabine is doing a spectacular job showing us how effective capitalist propoganda is. Keep up the good work!
@KarlSnarks
@KarlSnarks 8 месяцев назад
Lol, unintentionally informative after all ;P
@johndoe-sh6bi
@johndoe-sh6bi 7 месяцев назад
What exactly is your suggestion if capitalism is so bad? Socialism? Communism? What? Some mixed bag of others. All of that has been tried to many times to count. Seriously, what is your suggestion to replace capitalism?
@emiliopenayo4738
@emiliopenayo4738 6 месяцев назад
​@@johndoe-sh6bisocialism and eventually communism. Of course you probably don't even know the difference between these two.
@johndoe-sh6bi
@johndoe-sh6bi 6 месяцев назад
@@emiliopenayo4738 openly calling for communism? wtf is wrong with you.
@awesomeferret
@awesomeferret 5 месяцев назад
You've accidentally exposed the fact that you have an inability to decide what is propaganda.
@franciscobarrosvito9580
@franciscobarrosvito9580 9 месяцев назад
One of the great examples of survivorship bias is: We praise companies performing investigations, but we never know what investigations are never published because of inconvenient results. Like Coca Cola and nutrition papers.
@MichaelSmith-ij2ut
@MichaelSmith-ij2ut 9 месяцев назад
Like ExxonMobil and its 1977 global warming study
@KlausKlauskinski
@KlausKlauskinski 9 месяцев назад
@@MichaelSmith-ij2ut i would recommend listening to an episode of the "skeptoid" podcast about this topic. you may find it by searching for the terms you used. it is rather interesting. i just give the short version. the studies were not cleaar on saying what we know now. the exxon leaders could not be sure about what we know now.
@simon_does
@simon_does 9 месяцев назад
Coca-Cola has way more problems in their past than nutrition. You know they own Faygo? Do you know how and where that started?? Dig deeper I beg you.
@btdtpro
@btdtpro 9 месяцев назад
Yeah, capitalism has only been great because it spread out the power more than feudalism, but capitalism as it's fully grown has reconsolidated the power, and disconnected it from geographic location, a king must care about his kingdom, if he loses it he loses everything, a guy with 200+ billion in multinational assets, can extract all the value out of a country and leave it dead, while only increase his power, not losing it like a king draining his own kingdom. In the end it wasn't capitalism but the deconsolidating power that has benefited the people. Note that many places she listed as places you don't want to go, don't have democracy. It's also worth noting that many places listen as capitalist, say America, don't truly have a free market, thus aren't real capitalism. Real socialism, and real capitalism are seldom found anywhere, and instead some combination of the two are present, and capitalists like to pick all the best economies and call them capitalist, while also themselves complaining that they aren't capitalist enough.
@PeterDmvs
@PeterDmvs 9 месяцев назад
Rapists investigating why they rape us 🤯
@Wavezzzz601
@Wavezzzz601 9 месяцев назад
Capitalism is good when its good and when it isn't thats another topic for another day.
@NewSocialistEraVideos
@NewSocialistEraVideos 9 месяцев назад
Truuuuuue-uhhhh
@temari2860
@temari2860 9 месяцев назад
Socialism is good when we will have it for real, and all the times it was a failure it just wasn't done right.
@themachine5647
@themachine5647 9 месяцев назад
Yah I have great respect for Sabine's science perspectives, but I wish she would stay away from civics and social/political issues, she's really shoved her foot in her mouth a few different times already and I much rather she stop providing fuel for political pundits. These "educational" videos are not in-depth or nuanced enough to give people a fair perspective, and Sabine's lack of knowledge in American culture and politics really shows when she tries.
@ez112111
@ez112111 9 месяцев назад
Capitalist countries like Irak or Lybia are countries you don't want to live in but that's another story
@Spiral773
@Spiral773 9 месяцев назад
I find her physics videos to be among the best, but she fails to recognize her biases on social/political topics by trying to take a "both sides" approach that ends up lending credibility to bigoted or otherwise harmful viewpoints. Just like its not possible to be without scientific bias, the same is true for politics and social matters and its intellectually dishonest to pretend that's not the case.
@ad1108am
@ad1108am 9 месяцев назад
Important part that is missing from this point of view is the corporate lobbying of governments. We cannot talk about setting rules that will benefit majority, if a minority can just buy access to politicians. Without that we can single out kids in headlines for not ‘getting it’ but we can do as little as them about the issue.
@chronoshin8597
@chronoshin8597 9 месяцев назад
Lobbying of government exist regardless of any system. We need to agree on the first part first.
@-Devy-
@-Devy- 9 месяцев назад
@@chronoshin8597 No one said it was a problem exclusive to capitalism so no idea why you're trying to make that point.
@user-wq8sd2qc4u
@user-wq8sd2qc4u 9 месяцев назад
"Kids" shes TWENTY YEARS OLD 😂😂😂😂 pls think before appealing to emotions
@synchronium24
@synchronium24 9 месяцев назад
@@chronoshin8597 Sure, but the effects of that lobbying are very disparate. Scandanavia has managed to temper the influence of corporate lobbying in a way that America, for example, does not even attempt to do.
@chronoshin8597
@chronoshin8597 9 месяцев назад
@@-Devy- Yes, is not exclusive to capitalism so the OP comment is irrelevant to the topic of this video.
@FKProds
@FKProds 7 месяцев назад
It's this simple: Capitalism requires surplus production to generate profit. It incentivizes over-consumption. No carbon capture methods can keep up with our production and consumption economically. It is not sustainable to expect endless profit going to the few. We much share our limited resources more fairly and responsibly.
@rheiagreenland4714
@rheiagreenland4714 7 месяцев назад
Ah, an excellent hypothesis. I wonder how an esteemed scientist failed to consider such a simple concept.
@tomvandongen8075
@tomvandongen8075 5 месяцев назад
I check back in every couple of weeks to see if this video is still up and somehow it still is...
@Thomas-gk42
@Thomas-gk42 5 месяцев назад
Yes, she's convinced, that she's right (and she even is in a way, cause the major problem is not what she says, but what she's ommitting). I like her very much, she's a brilliant mathematician, thinker and communicator and this is the only of nearly 400 videos, I think that is failed, so I can live with it. I don't need a channel, that's parroting my beliefs. I'm a little bit sad, because I see, that this is harmful for her work. But she's not only brilliant, she's stubborn too. So I'm afraid, we have to wait for a deletion.
@MultiChrisjb
@MultiChrisjb 3 месяца назад
@@Thomas-gk42 I would never want her to delete this. Idc how wrong it is, it shows her understanding of capitalism. And this is really how some people think about this stuff. I wouldn't want flat earthers deleting their videos either. It's important to know who the idiots are.
@Thomas-gk42
@Thomas-gk42 3 месяца назад
@@MultiChrisjb If you mean she's an idiot like the flat earthers, she's not of course. This video follows the math of micro economics, without using that math, which surely is too complicated for a vid like this. But the simplification makes it boring, different to physics stuff, that's just one mistake, she made, besides all the propaganda like statements, that aren't that funny, as she normally can be. The use of the term 'capitalism' already is a failure, since she just explains free markets and financial systems while 'capitalism' has a negative notion in itself, it's a political battleterm, something that she perhaps didn't notice. As I said, no one is flawless and I can live with that.
@Thomas-gk42
@Thomas-gk42 3 месяца назад
@@MultiChrisjbMy answer faded, try it once more. If you mena.,she´s an idiot like flat earthersyou´re wrong of course. This video has alot of problems though. no one is flawless.
@appleturnover519
@appleturnover519 3 месяца назад
@@Thomas-gk42 This was a simple OUTLINE to capitalism, with the inherent rough edges, not a course in micro- and macro-economics.
@seangraham184
@seangraham184 9 месяцев назад
"That's why we have laws against that" is doing a Herculean amount of work here lol
@LuisRomeroLopez
@LuisRomeroLopez 9 месяцев назад
Isn't that still free market?
@asdf30111
@asdf30111 9 месяцев назад
@@LuisRomeroLopez Now what do you do when people start paying for laws they want or at least to alter laws in their favor, or outright buy the ability to make the laws?
@andiralosh2173
@andiralosh2173 9 месяцев назад
Yeah let's jus make slavery illegal. Problem solved. Do we need to support people or change systems? Nope, we wrote words down on paper, yay us!
@asdf30111
@asdf30111 9 месяцев назад
@@andiralosh2173 I don't know; slavery seems very profitable. In fact, it is so profitable that maybe I should take a risk and bribe some people and see if we can make it legal again. Then I can let the apple farmer sell his son for an apple juicer. After which, I make the son work on the apple orchard I got when my folks died, and as I force the son to pick the apples for free, I can charge less for my own apple products, which will in time put the father out of business and force him to sell his orchard to me and maybe even have him throw in the juicer too. After which, since the father won't have the orchard, he won't be able to make money as quickly. So he also won't be able to fully repay his loan. In a way, he will also become my slave, as from then on he will have to work just to pay off the interest on his loan.
@gogudelagaze1585
@gogudelagaze1585 9 месяцев назад
@@asdf30111 That's illegal in all normal countries, I don't see your point? OLAF does some amazing work. Would be great if western EU countries also had anti-corruption orgs, and not just rely on OLAF, but even so it's mostly fine.
@AlexDrums482
@AlexDrums482 9 месяцев назад
"Capitalism is good! Now here's everything that's wrong with it. But that's another story!" Indeed, an honest critique of capitalism is a very different story than the one you just told.
@AL_THOMAS_777
@AL_THOMAS_777 9 месяцев назад
🙌 👏 🙏 🤝 👍 you b e t it is . . .
@numbersix8919
@numbersix8919 8 месяцев назад
💥👌👍♥️
@luwen77777
@luwen77777 8 месяцев назад
It was pretty incomplete indeed, but well, that's the average RU-vid title to gather attention. She just talked about the evolution of society with it and the ambiental problems.
@pedrosaraiva
@pedrosaraiva 8 месяцев назад
This is just a PragerU video. It's all here: the misdirections ("sure it has its criticisms but that's another story") the historical innacuraccy (money didn't show up because people were tired of trading goods all the time lol, also, people were lending money with interest for various reasons waaaaaaaaaaay before capitalism) the false equivalences (markets, economy, capitalism, these are all related but different concepts) overall lack of critical thinking (So the University developed penicillin because of capitalism? The university predates capitalism, c'mon thats an easy one; or like "The market didnt know the water had value" sure the people benefiting from the market understand water is good - what happened there?). Words not meaning anything ("Free market is capitalism + rules"? so marketed socialism is free market? or not because too many rules? what?) We even have the vague reference to Marx as "the guy who thought capitalism was bad because of the - _ew_ - wOrKeRs" You could sum up all the parts she brushes off whenever there's a criticism of capitalism and come out with an actual more productive video about how capitalism is bad...
@Jazzyluvsyou100
@Jazzyluvsyou100 Месяц назад
1. Capitalism requires rules and governing bodies to enforce contracts. Capitalism in it's purest since must have a governing body. capitalism by default, after that, technically has no restrictions, you can write contracts with any number of stipulations as long as both parties agree. Socialism comes from a different perspective: By default socialism has prescriptions on how different people can organize, , IE what type of contreacts that you are allowed to go into, it requires democratic control of the workplace, in some form, as it by defalt moralizes the employee/employer relationship. Capitalism by default does not do this. Obviously every human organization in the real world is regulated, and always has been and always will be. But capitalism has different sets of prescription inherent in its philosophy. Specifically democratic control of the workplace is more or less a requirement in socialism while in capitalism it is not. You in a capitalist system could technically have contracts that allow socialist organizations, but socialism can not allow a non democratic workplace to truly exist. Capitalism, by and large is good, and anyone who disagrees is frankly a historical, Much socialism that many people advocate for in the real world is entirely compatible with capitalism. Also words like socialism/capitalism/communism are kind of muddled words. Capitalism is actually kind of a nebulous term. Property rights and the ability for anyone to freely own capital are some of the primary differences compared to socialism/communism/markets. Back in the day some people were straight up restricted by law to have no property rights, as well as no freedom of association. Umbrella terms politics arguing is always a bitch though.... so i get your frustrations.
@HominidPetro
@HominidPetro 8 месяцев назад
This is a self-fulfilling argument. Of course capitalism is good for "progress" when "progress" is defined by the constraints of capitalism.
@vitulus_
@vitulus_ 8 месяцев назад
Could you elaborate?
@HominidPetro
@HominidPetro 8 месяцев назад
​@vitulus_ Just look at how capitalism relates to water, for example. Capitalism encourages the production of bottled water. Then we say that bottled water is a godsend because there are places that rely on bottled water as their only safe source of drinking water. While in reality it was the economic forces that led to the creation of bottled water that also led to this dependency because of the pollution or depletion of natural water sources. This is not a lack of regulation. The exploitation of natural resources for the means of production is an inherent aspect of capitalism. Imagine a world where water has implicit value or rights. We would not be able to produce any of the common goods that we now rely on to operate on a daily basis. This is largely because of the way capitalism relies on scaling of value i.e., hierarchy.
@vitulus_
@vitulus_ 8 месяцев назад
​@@HominidPetro Wouldn't the depletion of natural water reserves be because of the demand of water -- something that is always the case? The problems with capitalism is normally the resources wasted that weren't harvested. E.g., a water plant burns coal which contributes to climate change. Nonetheless, I mean to ask you to elaborate on how "progress" is defined by the constraints of capitalism? I should've been more clear, sorry.
@valentinrafael9201
@valentinrafael9201 8 месяцев назад
@@vitulus_ What does capitalism actualy do? You get born, and it is imposed upon you ( unless you want to go and hunt ofc ). This makes it the GOAL of life now. You have to succeed in this system that is being imposed on you since birth, or else you die. So, in order to succeed in "life" you have to succeed in capitalism. All of a sudden, capitalism is like a force of nature. If you look at socialism on the other hand, it IS STILL being imposed upon you, but it OFFERS safety nets in case you can't adapt to it as well as other people. Capitalism is TRANSGRESSING over your human rights, by not offering an alternative. Socialism is PROMOTING life by giving you a safety net, because some people are more gifted than others or even if they aren't, some people get motivated more easily, and can become better faster and so on. Capitalism is LITERALLY unethical and immoral, because of its transgressions over human life. Eusocial species are the most successful ones in nature, and we have the advantage of being intelligent beings, so we can make it even better than that.
@HominidPetro
@HominidPetro 8 месяцев назад
@vitulus_ in the bottled water example, the invention and distribution of a product whose reliance on is necessitated by the power that created it is defined as "progress." This is a self-fulfilling argument.
@KaiHenningsen
@KaiHenningsen 9 месяцев назад
There are a few too many "that's another story"s in this one for my taste. Those are real problems that need more than a throwaway formula - at the very least, a short description of the topic and how it relates to the current one. Because there are a number of dragons hidden behind those throwaways.
@erikanderson1402
@erikanderson1402 Месяц назад
Didnt you make a video about how your dreams in academia died because schools have become money-making institutions?! Do you not see the connection here?
@user-nr7ui2ny1z
@user-nr7ui2ny1z Месяц назад
She is obviously hiding the truth . For more sponsor from the capitalist. Why will a physicist discuss an economic issue
@SylwesterKogowski
@SylwesterKogowski 4 дня назад
Money is the symbol of need. You only pay for things that you need, you don't pay for things that you don't need (or do you? ;) ) This regulates the scientific institutions to produce only that science that someone actually needs. That's the theory at least. Sadly the money given to scientific institutions is from politicians, and thus it is often the case that scientists are allowed to just spend this money on whatever they want. This results in millions of papers that no one cares about, including other scientists.
@mandi4820
@mandi4820 2 дня назад
She did, but that doesn't make her a hypocrite, she simply isn't morally bankrupt enough to call for the state to fund her research with coercively extracted money
@erikanderson1402
@erikanderson1402 2 дня назад
@@mandi4820 governments create money. Passive income is the only kind of income that is coercively extracted.
@Dave_and_Jo
@Dave_and_Jo 6 месяцев назад
Sabine, I really love your physics videos. That's why I come here. I don't care to listen to you talk about politics, economics or anything else besides physics. Because how can i know that you know anything more about these subjects than i do? Or John Smith who lives next door? Or anyone actually. You're not a political scientist or an economist. It's strange that you seem to be "branching out" into other areas that are not your field of expertise when your fans are just here for the physics. Watch out or you may begin losing those fans.
@Eleku
@Eleku Месяц назад
She makes this video because she wants to lose those smelly socialist fans ;-)
@MegaLuros
@MegaLuros 9 месяцев назад
I didn't expect it to be one of the most middle of the run neo-liberal defense of capitalism.
@lobodip
@lobodip 9 месяцев назад
Yeah, this is dog-brained. Sabine needs to stay in her lane...cuz this is an embarassing proto-ECON101 analysis.
@hollowman9410
@hollowman9410 9 месяцев назад
It’s 2023 and people still confuse capitalism with basic economics.
@Allenrythe
@Allenrythe 9 месяцев назад
​@@hollowman9410It's crazy that she brings up Marx, but then goes on to bring up arguments that he directly debunked in the first chapter of Capital. Capitalism as an economic concept was literally created and defined by him as everyone before just called it "Political Economy". It's irritating because she could have easily related the concepts of surplus value, use value, and labor value to the same concepts that she knows from physics. Marx's whole ststems approach to political economy through dialectic materialism is just conservation of energy. He even uses the concept of power/energy as an analogy for labor power and productivity. One of the few economists in history to approach the economy from first principles instead of defining it in its own present reality which is the cornerstone of theoretical physics. There's a reason so many of the early physics relativists were communist, they saw the arguments made in Capital as directly related to the systems defined by general relativity.
@clara-raxxa
@clara-raxxa 9 месяцев назад
​@@Allenrythetrue af
@Tom-it6gi
@Tom-it6gi 9 месяцев назад
I did, more or less.
@flotsamMM
@flotsamMM 9 месяцев назад
I can identify a couple sections where a modicum of additional nuance could have led to very different conclusions, but that's another story
@nooneinparticular3370
@nooneinparticular3370 9 месяцев назад
I'd like to hear what you have to say!
@DeadJack1999
@DeadJack1999 9 месяцев назад
​@@nooneinparticular3370but thats another story tho.
@tomwhone9804
@tomwhone9804 9 месяцев назад
@@nooneinparticular3370 Me too.
@NutjobChuck
@NutjobChuck 9 месяцев назад
@@nooneinparticular3370Wealth is accumulative: the more capital you have the more capital you are able to gain and at a faster rate. Money is required for basic necessities like food, shelter, and water. Food, shelter, and water are controlled by capital and can be leveraged by capitalists to charge maximums. As capitalism develops, a middle class develops. The middle class then splits into an upper and lower class: the upper class experiences an upward trend of wealth increase, a better ability to buy goods, the lower class experiences a trend of wealth decrease, losing buying power. The same happens with rich and poor demographics. Inflation, caused primarily due to wealth accumulation, leads to a constant increase in the price of basic goods and services. Do you understand what this indicates?
@kimathihalley
@kimathihalley 9 месяцев назад
like?
@rodrigovieiraramos4829
@rodrigovieiraramos4829 7 месяцев назад
As an economist I am happy that this is an actually a pretty unbiased vision, But still too simplistic of a view of economy. Capitalism cant be seem as the reason of progress, just because you dont have anything to compare it, and marx pretty much agrees you need a really advanced capitalist society to make socialism work( why Cuba and thing like that dont work). But the reason the system Didnt collapse is because the exploration was moved to the “South”. Is so Nice to say in germany capitalism is good, when everthing you buy and wear is made by cheap children labor and slave labor in Asia , África, and latin América. And in Didnt even start with the changes made after the 80s, that basically made capitalism a Gamble speculation game instead of economic and social Growth.
@blackoak4978
@blackoak4978 8 месяцев назад
New title "Capitalism is Good: Anything to the contrary Is Another Story"
@blackoak4978
@blackoak4978 8 месяцев назад
Drinking game: take a drink every time she says "but that's another story"
@moskus7000
@moskus7000 9 месяцев назад
Yes, and what happens if capitalists capture the organizations that are supposed to regulate them?
@philippfrogel9355
@philippfrogel9355 9 месяцев назад
Then it is not capitalism anymore
@Sputnikcosmonot
@Sputnikcosmonot 9 месяцев назад
@@philippfrogel9355 In that case there has never been capitalism according to you.
@letmedoit8095
@letmedoit8095 9 месяцев назад
Capitalist economies are just as susceptible to corruption as socialist economies. That's just human nature. Your responsibility as a voter and a citizen to ensure that it doesn't happen.
@JD96893
@JD96893 9 месяцев назад
I'd also just like to add that this could only happen in a capitalist society...
@romank.6813
@romank.6813 9 месяцев назад
You'd be surprised, but they initiated and installed these organizations to produce an impression they are under some control. In fact, they are not.
@celeritas5k
@celeritas5k 9 месяцев назад
What kind of externality is it when companies pay government representatives not to pass laws against negative externalities?
@marceleza79
@marceleza79 9 месяцев назад
Or when the government use tax payers money to "rescue" bankrupting corporations? Free market? Invisible hand?
@amihart9269
@amihart9269 9 месяцев назад
Liberals are inherently idealists, they reject the notion that there is a material origin for political power and see political power as just something arbitrary that sways back and forth depending on the ideas of the time, hence why they always stress that all that really matters is "the free marketplace of ideas." It's also why they don't get why capitalism is flawed, because they don't see a connection between giving control over production to a small handful of people, and those small handful of people then controlling the political system. Most either just deny this happens, saying it's a conspiracy theory or something, or they say it's "corporatism" and that tRuE cApItALiSm hAs nEvEr bEeN tRiEd and we can get it right this time as long as we can win in the free marketplace of ideas and get others on our side with logic and reason. lol
@KorhalKk
@KorhalKk 8 месяцев назад
Damage control, PR, fake philantropy and lobby. I believe corps already have that considered on their balances.
@darrishawks6033
@darrishawks6033 8 месяцев назад
I watched this video immediately before watching your video on doing your own research. I think you're obviously very intelligent and you must generally do a lot more research than other commentators. With the utmost respect, I also think this video is an excellent example of poorly done research. It may surprise you to know that Karl Marx agreed with much of what you said until you mentioned him. His Das Kapital is an analysis of capitalism and how and why it works, explicitly including how it's very good at producing commodities, like your penicillin example. Capitalism is obviously progressive as compared to what came before it. Marxists agree with that conclusion. The idea that Marx was just some dude with a bullhorn shouting about how bad capitalism is is a false one, no doubt pushed by people who would rather you trust what they have to say about Marx and Marxism over looking into it yourself. You can also see this ignorance about what Marxism actually does by the fact that you listed Laos, Cuba, and North Korea, while not mentioning China at all. I assume you did not mention China because you attribute China's success to capitalism. But here's the thing: So do Marxists, and China is also Marxist. If you look into the history of the communist movement in China, you will quickly learn that there was a lot of infighting among Marxists about whether and to what degree to allow the capitalist mode of production in China for exactly that reason. In fact, two of the five stars on the Chinese flag represent capitalists (the urban bourgeoisie and the national bourgeoisie). Mao even said that, due to China's economic backwardness, the capitalist mode of production was necessary to develop China's productive capacity. The controversy surrounding Deng Xiaoping's "Reform and Opening Up" was not primarily due to deviation from Marxist principles, it was due to that approach causing a lot of negative effects for the people. Deng responded to that criticism with "When you open the window, flies will come in." Thus, one major difference between China and the other countries you mentioned amounts not to "not Marxism," but to a disagreement in policy. Vietnam is much the same. In fact, there has not been a country where a Marxist party controlled the state which was in a material position that Marx considered a precondition to socialism: Fully developed capitalism. That's why Soviet Russia had the New Economic Policy. That's why Maoist China had the Unit System. That's why North Korea made the Tae-an Work System. These countries know that the capitalist mode of production is necessary to truly transition to socialism, but they're unwilling to just open up to full liberalization for a multitude of reasons, not least of which is that they have seen what happened to other countries that did that. Now let's address that other elephant in the room: Sanctions and blockades on the Marxist countries you did mention. North Korea is the most sanctioned country in history, Laos is the most bombed country in history, and Cuba is blockaded by the world's superpower, which is only 90 miles away from it. It is very bad form to condemn a country for its poverty while refusing to let that country trade with anyone else. I know I'm prattling on, so I just want to say two more things: 1. You said we should listen to economists more. I agree. But why limit yourself to non-Marxian economists? Some of the best economists in the world are Marxian economists. Marx wasn't some idiot, his approach to analyzing economies isn't useless. He also wasn't some prophet, and he was wrong about some things. 2. You are intelligent and well-read enough to not have an excuse to trash on Marxism without having read Das Kapital. It is dense, but it is not nonsense, and it doesn't have any preachy ideology. As I said, Marx wasn't some dude with a bullhorn, he was a philosopher. It's logical writing with logical conclusions. And since you're German, I assume it will be easier to read in the original German as well (but maybe not because English texts from the 1860s are pretty weird to read sometimes for me, too lol). It feels like most anti-Marxism is just people who looked at the Communist Manifesto and some anti-Marxism commentators rather than just looking at Marx himself. I can see this video has almost 25,000 comments, so I assume you won't read this, but I hope you do.
@audreyjeansheldon5471
@audreyjeansheldon5471 7 месяцев назад
this is an outstanding comment, you touched on a lot of things i was thinking and then some. commenting to boost. i hope to see sabine make an earnest attempt at a follow-up video addressing these criticisms.
@darrishawks6033
@darrishawks6033 7 месяцев назад
@@audreyjeansheldon5471 Thank you, I really appreciate it
@LL-xg1xo
@LL-xg1xo Минуту назад
The first point is just blatantly incorrect, why lie? There are extremely few marixst economists let alone good marxist economists. Your devotion to Marx and his immeasurable intelligence is not proving anything. You have made not a single coherent point here.
@Dsingis
@Dsingis 7 месяцев назад
You skipped the step of money where the paper money was an IOU, that you could always exchange for the same amount of gold that was deposited in a bank. Fiat money, that is based on nothing but air and trust is only 50 years old, extremely new in comparison, and inflation has skyrocketed ever since. Fiat money will eventually collapse and tear this economy down with it.
@meierandre1313
@meierandre1313 9 месяцев назад
One major problem is the huge political influence (directly and via media) of very rich people and companies. This leads to laws that benefit the rich but not the people.
@pontiuspilates
@pontiuspilates 9 месяцев назад
People in power always dictate the rules. Be it capitalists in capitalism, nomenclature in communism, aristocracy in feudalism... it's up to each individual to become better and care for others, no matter the system
@tripd4949
@tripd4949 9 месяцев назад
We need Trump back
@asdfboochica
@asdfboochica 9 месяцев назад
If you look at index’s for the least corrupt countries in human history (Denmark, Finland, New Zealand, Singapore, etc) they are all firmly capitalist countries.
@jorgemartinez42069
@jorgemartinez42069 9 месяцев назад
​@@tripd4949Hahahahahahahaha hahahahahaha. Good one dude!
@johnnonamegibbon3580
@johnnonamegibbon3580 9 месяцев назад
@@pontiuspilates Yeah, but maybe abolish corporations too? Because it's extremely tyrannical.
@1873Winchester
@1873Winchester 9 месяцев назад
How does Sabine explain that while polio was developed in a capitalist country (by Salk, who refused to profit from it btw) it was the efforts of the Soviet Union that resulted in it's mass distribution in 3rd world countries and subsequent global eradication? This was not seen as profitable by the western capitalist countries, but the SU argued for it and mass produced vaccines and argued for it in the UN and WHO until it finally happened.
@christophermusgrave2970
@christophermusgrave2970 9 месяцев назад
Most of the good outcomes of capitalism for most people (even in the imperial core) came about by pressure from people advocating alternative systems. See Robert Owen and how the 8 hour day came about. When capitalism murdered it's way into being the only show in town again we're seeing those gains evaporate.
@jasondashney
@jasondashney 9 месяцев назад
Credit where credit is due.
@jeff__w
@jeff__w 8 месяцев назад
It was, of course, Victor Zhdanov, Deputy Minister of Health of the USSR and a delegate to the Eleventh World Health Assembly in 1958, who urged the systematic eradication of smallpox (not polio) via WHO-led worldwide campaigns to quarantine, isolate and vaccinate people around the world. Dr Zhadanov’s argument was so convincing that the World Health assembly voted unanimously in favor of the global campaign. That certainly provided an impetus to a campaign to eradicate polio worldwide starting in 1988, an effort which continues. The number of new polio cases for the week ending 13 September 2023 was 18, according to the Global Polio Eradication Initiative.
@stevealexander8010
@stevealexander8010 8 месяцев назад
Well - was it profitable ? That's the answer.
@Admiral-General_Aladeen
@Admiral-General_Aladeen 8 месяцев назад
Lol yeah good things can come from any ecomnomic system but if you actually argue that the soviet economic system was better... well then you are probably an idiot Also thats more a choice of politics not just economics
@Nanabodzo
@Nanabodzo 8 месяцев назад
The video doesn't mention the issue of social inequalities and wealth concentration created by capitalism. That's a pitty. I wonder if again the excuse would be that "we are not using capitalism correctly".
@smithjohnsonwilliams
@smithjohnsonwilliams 8 месяцев назад
Little problem: wealth = political power.
@vitulus_
@vitulus_ 8 месяцев назад
little problem: representatives are _voted_ in by the people.
@smithjohnsonwilliams
@smithjohnsonwilliams 8 месяцев назад
@@vitulus_ Little problem: wealth = cultural power = voting influence
@thienthien7765
@thienthien7765 2 месяца назад
@@vitulus_really? Really? You’re telling me that the us is free in voting? Like you guys have 2 old puppets every single 4 years and 2 parties every single time and you don’t acknowledge that y’all are not really free in voting?
@vitulus_
@vitulus_ 2 месяца назад
@@thienthien7765 I didn't mention the US specifically nor do I live there. You don't describe the situation in the democratic country I live in. By definition, a representative democracy means the people vote the representatives in. If you're telling me the US doesn't have that, then I guess it's not a representative democracy.
@FabianLopez_lomba
@FabianLopez_lomba 9 месяцев назад
From a science communicator I would have expected facts and data, not a lot of opinions in the form of an essay
@DynamicUnreal
@DynamicUnreal 9 месяцев назад
Do you need facts and data to see that leaves on a tree move when the wind blows? Or that a rock falling into water causes ripples on the surface? Do you even know what society actually looked like before capitalism? I’ll give you data. Between the year 0 and the year 1800 the world economy grew an anemic 40%. Since 1800 until 2023 it has grown 6500%. That means, that there’s been roughly 130 times the economic progress in the 200 years since capitalism was created than there was in the previous *one thousand and eight hundred years* before that. It is so clearly obvious that it doesn’t even need an explanation.
@GlitzPixie
@GlitzPixie 9 месяцев назад
This video is truly embarrassing
@Dylan-zm3ht
@Dylan-zm3ht 9 месяцев назад
This is any scientist when not talking about their field.
@Saktoth
@Saktoth 9 месяцев назад
​@@Dylan-zm3htHer physics is bad too unfortunately. Half the stuff she says on here is her own speculations.
@Gkuljian
@Gkuljian 9 месяцев назад
Wait, you mean Cuba and North Korea have economic issues for reasons other than socialism? Like maybe US hegemony?
@carjaune6793
@carjaune6793 8 месяцев назад
This video is great but the title should be "The Dunning-Kruger effect"
@copsuicide
@copsuicide 8 месяцев назад
how about "kindly white lady calmly explains why africa and the 3rd world must continue being raped and desolated and why that's good, actually."
@vitulus_
@vitulus_ 8 месяцев назад
No it shouldn't. Although the comments probably should be labelled that.
@eqfan592
@eqfan592 8 месяцев назад
​@vitulus_ you really need to educate yourself on this topic of you honestly believe that. Like, desperately so
@vitulus_
@vitulus_ 8 месяцев назад
​@@eqfan592 Eh. Here is a comment: _"We literally produce enough food to feed billions of people, and that just for a surplus of food companies produce. The only reason we still have hunger in the world is because it isn't profitable to feed everyone."_ Reduces a nuanced issue to being the result of capitalism.
@technofsfsfsfs
@technofsfsfsfs 8 месяцев назад
@@vitulus_ Ahuh. The remote outpost without roads and logistics problems, right? So why are there so many hungry people in industrialized nations, inside of massive cities? Why does it make sense for corporations to throw away perfectly edible unsold food? Hint: $$$ and product value going down if it's handed out to the hungry and poor. Why do you think supermarkets throw away billions of pounds of food each year?
@chriseastopher
@chriseastopher 6 месяцев назад
Spoiler: she hardly addresses capitalism and doesn’t defend it basically at all. Indeed, what she does do is points out a bunch of the excesses of capitalism and argues that we need government to reign in capitalism. If anything this is a video about how capitalism is problematic. The primary innovations of capitalism that uniquely define it are free enterprises whose existence is determined by their struggle for the aggregate of surplus value, wage labor and middle managers. Free enterprises and capital investments, which she does discuss, existed in mercantilism. At least, that’s my understanding and would be happy to be corrected. But, at any rate, wage labor, the aggregate of surplus value and middle managers weren’t discussed. Even her comments on the value of competition generated under capitalism is ultimately a criticism about how capitalists won’t compete fairly if left to their own devices. It’s almost as if she thinks government regulation is a part of capitalism. 😂 then there’s the penicillin example, which basically demonstrates how capitalism is parasitic and unnecessary because all the capitalist did was exploit publicly funded research and then made a profit exploiting sick people who needed that medicine-I guess I’m not smart enough to understand why we need a capitalist for that and the government couldn’t have just distributed it to those who needed it at cost. 🤷‍♂️
@TheExalltus
@TheExalltus 9 месяцев назад
love how she says “things went wrong during the industrial revolution” and chooses to ignore the incentives which led to conditions becoming so rapacious and cruel
@AlexM-oq5el
@AlexM-oq5el 9 месяцев назад
I dont think she ignored it, she said there was a grain of truth in Marx's criticisms and was very correct in her assessment of state socialist/planned economies.
@TylerHallHiveTech
@TylerHallHiveTech 9 месяцев назад
She also didn't say "things went wrong in other political /market systems at the same that killed magnitude more" People like to frame roses views of history. Sure. I don't think the was malignant in her assessment. Just brief. It's a speed run in a 16 min video.
@anakides
@anakides 9 месяцев назад
Yeah, we should go to socialism since it’s worked out so well for so many places.
@mattpierce5009
@mattpierce5009 9 месяцев назад
@@anakidesNobody said that, and it isn't "either-or" between capitalism and socialism.
@i.shuuya3231
@i.shuuya3231 9 месяцев назад
She almost had it lmfao
@denglish5275
@denglish5275 9 месяцев назад
Einstein really should have called in on this video and said some words.
@AL_THOMAS_777
@AL_THOMAS_777 9 месяцев назад
Yeah mate ! Einstein did promote SILVIO GESELL ! Go and look for that guy . . .
@VeteranVandal
@VeteranVandal 9 месяцев назад
A socialist. And for good reason.
@numbersix8919
@numbersix8919 8 месяцев назад
💕👌👍🌎🇨🇳
@PedroDiMaggio-dk4lb
@PedroDiMaggio-dk4lb 8 месяцев назад
Can't she just stick to physics? Every other topic she delves into reveals her complete ignorance or is completely boring.
@0olong
@0olong 8 месяцев назад
Fortunately his classic 1949 essay "Why Socialism?" Is freely available and easy to google!
@gijbuis
@gijbuis 8 месяцев назад
I think you have summarized economics in a nutshell! But 'capitalism' was very much the basis on which the Dutch 'Golden Age' built its prosperity during the early 17th century. The Dutch East India Company was founded in 1602 by rich merchants in order to create a joint-stock charter company to trade in Asia. This was well before the 'industrial revolution' which is generally reckoned to be heralded by harnessing the steam engine in 1712, which led to the creation of semi-automated factories during the 1800s.
@wsovalle
@wsovalle 7 месяцев назад
It's amazing. I don't want to know who and how told you to make a material about capitalism, but the way you evaded making capitalist propaganda by creating such a parody is absolutely brilliant.
@BrennanYoung
@BrennanYoung 9 месяцев назад
Big corporations *love* regulation when it works in their favour. (e.g. extending copyrights on IP)
@RogerRocks
@RogerRocks 9 месяцев назад
Exactly what should and should not be private property is very important to the success of an economic system. Right now big business has too much power and influences governments to make decisions that are bad for the majority of us.
@nkristianschmidt
@nkristianschmidt 9 месяцев назад
Regulation does not work when the big players of industry write the regulation and capture the regulatory bodies of government. And that seems to be widespread resulting in the opposite of what was intended with regulation in the first place: To eliminate the negative effects of power asymmetry between companies and consumers.
@karigrandii
@karigrandii 9 месяцев назад
And who does the regulation? It’s the friends of people who own the companies or future friends of theirs. It’s not indigenous people or the common people. It’s usually the rich and powerful.
@karigrandii
@karigrandii 9 месяцев назад
There is no magical objective ”government” it’s rich people voted by the middle class (because they think they can too become rich).
@akapilka
@akapilka 9 месяцев назад
No matter who or which "invented" something, the IP of a product should never be beyond 50 years. Coca-Cola, Mickey Mouse or any other kind of product that has more than 50 years making money, should be already in the public domain.
@chrisfedde4032
@chrisfedde4032 9 месяцев назад
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair
@undeadpresident
@undeadpresident 9 месяцев назад
Very good quote!
@acea9252
@acea9252 9 месяцев назад
Let's understand why Sabine is wrong here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-p4qKjijP99c.html
@AugustusCheeser
@AugustusCheeser 9 месяцев назад
Ooh.
@achinthmurali5207
@achinthmurali5207 9 месяцев назад
That applies to socialists too
@sophisitcatedpsyco
@sophisitcatedpsyco 9 месяцев назад
@@achinthmurali5207explain.
@Tezza120
@Tezza120 6 месяцев назад
Oh my Sabine, you're going to be busy...."that's another story" Looking forward to all of them in the future
@snakeplissken3063
@snakeplissken3063 7 месяцев назад
According to the World Bank, capitalism raised one billion people out of poverty since 1990.
@justinratcliffe947
@justinratcliffe947 4 месяца назад
What about the other 7 billion?
@blitzn00dle50
@blitzn00dle50 Месяц назад
in other news, the association of sharp knives used to stab people says that stabbings with sharp knives used to stab people are exceedingly rare
@HuckelberryFriend
@HuckelberryFriend 9 месяцев назад
All I am going to say is that watching this video after having watched the one where ms. Hossenfelder gives advice on how to do our own research on a topic we are not experts about makes me think she didn't follow her own advice in this subject.
@mikean7074
@mikean7074 9 месяцев назад
I think she did do a little research, it's kind of like how creationists wouldn't be able to lie about what science says without first having read some of it.
@HuckelberryFriend
@HuckelberryFriend 9 месяцев назад
@@mikean7074 No doubt she did research, but I feel she didn't follow her own advice. She has a good video giving advice about how to do research on subjects we are not experts on. What I feel after watching the two is that there's something off.
@gaburieruR
@gaburieruR 9 месяцев назад
Exactly, like, she and her team did the research, but only looked at only one author, and when she came for one of the best to analyze capitalism (Marx) she just brushed him over. I feel that this video came pretty crude, if she made a whole series on how capitalism works, the pro and cons, and how it sustained until now, and how it'll be in the future, a profound analysis, it'll be nice. Sadly this video is just a crude opinion coming from her and team
@zuz-ve4ro
@zuz-ve4ro 9 месяцев назад
​@@gaburieruRlike she doesn't address the whole anti-capitalist academia lmao. almost every discipline of social science has a massive section dead set on critique of capitalism and she never addresses that. for anthropology guys like graeber, for sociology literally any post structuralist, for economics, well you don't get funding here without helping donors
@Arvy565
@Arvy565 9 месяцев назад
she's also on RU-vid. a product which probably wouldn't have existed without Capitalism so the fact she could make this source of income in exchange for free information for people like you makes me think it doesn't need much expertise to realize Capitalism is not a monster! but a blessing we must be thankful for. you on the other hand don't practice what you preach. you hate Capitalism and you're here using what Capitalism provided you! why don't you use the amazing products North Korea has made instead?
@pacomesalmon8086
@pacomesalmon8086 8 месяцев назад
Sabine : "the capitalist system that allowed an efficient allocation of resources" People starving around the world even thought we produce enought food for everyone : Yeah...
@terrybelanger7986
@terrybelanger7986 8 месяцев назад
Less starving than ever before. People are much better off worldwide than ever before. If you don't like it, go to Venezuela.... formerly the envy of South America.
@nickc3657
@nickc3657 8 месяцев назад
@@terrybelanger7986the “less starving” includes China. Billions lifted out of poverty under communism. The same thing happened under capitalism. It’s not a unique feature of either economic system, clearly.
@Marqan
@Marqan 8 месяцев назад
@@nickc3657 China? You mean the country that received unparalleled amounts of foreign investment? The one home to countless capitalist corporations? The country with by far the most numerous offenses of industrial espionage and copyirght infringment? The country where citizens are kept in line so much that they can't own land? The one with the closed internet and never before seen censorship? What an amazing country! Communism clearly did it all by itself! Great example!
@vebdaklu
@vebdaklu 8 месяцев назад
​@@terrybelanger7986I am sure starving people are so much better off knowing that under feudalism 500 years ago there were some more starving people. That really helps them.
@gargamellenoir8460
@gargamellenoir8460 8 месяцев назад
Poverty and starvation have melted compared to the previous centuries, you realize that right? You're just using a perfect solution fallacy. "Capitalism didn't solve all problems? Then it's shit!"
@ThinkingReality
@ThinkingReality 8 месяцев назад
Dr. Hossenfelder, do you know of the general trend of physicists speaking well outside their domain of expertise, assuming they understand it, and then saying a bunch of stuff that doesn't really work or hold up to scrutiny, leading to their later years being less about breakthroughs in their field and more about being cranks in other fields? ...Yeahhhhhh... This is not your area of expertise, and it really shows. I recommend the book "Capitalist Realism" by Mark Fischer, as it very closely describes exactly what you're doing here - presenting examples of the past that fit capitalism as we know it, rather than what the past before capitalism was actually like.
@Name-ot3xw
@Name-ot3xw 5 месяцев назад
In my experience in helping disperse treats between hopeless nerds in video games, it's less about the system and more about how you maintain a sense of fairness. For example, most systems adapt some sort of moderate tax to prevent a former raider from coming back from a year hiatus and taking all the goodies from the team. TBH, suicide DKP always seemed to work the best. The person at the top of the list has priority, but when they exercise it they fall to the bottom of the list. It tends to prevent the newbies from hoarding all their points for a specific shiny object, and it lets the more well geared members jockey for position on the rarer stuff. Someone smarter than me can go ahead and figure out how to translate that into a workable economic system.
@TimothyWhiteheadzm
@TimothyWhiteheadzm 9 месяцев назад
Two very crucial things you didn't really cover: 1. Markets are almost never free. Governments and other entities get involved to skew markets one way or another. 2. Monopolies and patents. As a company grows in size the best strategy to make money changes from 'compete with others to make the best product at the best price' to 'get rid of the competition by any means necessary' this includes buying out the competition, using patent law and other laws to prevent competition or influencing government to prevent competition. Many large companies spend more effort and resources on lawyers etc than on their 'core product'.
@godseed7984
@godseed7984 9 месяцев назад
Yeah monopolies especially ones maintained by government force is called FASCISM!
@albertakesson3164
@albertakesson3164 9 месяцев назад
​@@godseed7984​​ I would say it depends on what sort of government and what sort of commodity we're talking about. People can actually make democratic elections if they want to maintain some government "monopoly". In this case you may call it _socialism_ instead. Because it's the will of the people and not some authoritarian leader. - Also, the term _monopoly_ wouldn't necessarily apply in this case, because collective ownership really isn't like having just one company dictating all the conditions. It's democratic, you see. Not fascist. Then there's the case for what sort of commodity we're talking about. - It's shown that private enterprise really aren't that good at handling basic stuff that need to be ubiquitous to everyone on fair terms. Like railways, energy grids, some types of medicine and telephony. - In Sweden for example, this last principle also apply for alcohol (yeah, it's kind of funny how alcohol plays into this category for swedes).
@NAIVADA
@NAIVADA 9 месяцев назад
The society and culture we're living in are driven by the worst of values to achieve anything that'd get us any closer to one where truth, equality and morality could prevail. The existence of poverty and deprivation in a world that can create an abundance to meet everyone’s needs is nothing more than structural oppression coming from a failed and elitist social system. We now need to think beyond the whole current anti-economy. Anyone with only half a brain understands that we have now arrived at a time when the methods of science and technology can provide abundance for all. It is no longer necessary to consciously withhold efficiency through planned obsolescence or to utilize an old and obsolete monetary system.
@christopherellis2663
@christopherellis2663 9 месяцев назад
​@@godseed7984 The Corporate State is one where all private industry exists to serve the State. The State does not need to own anything, just control the owners. This was Fascism in Italy, Spain, and Portugal.
@SomeoneExchangeable
@SomeoneExchangeable 9 месяцев назад
She did mention monopolies ("we have rules against that"). Also she explicitly mentioned markets+rules. Which explicitly makes them not free. Because in a "free", aka, unconstrained market, the only constraint is the price, right? So to function on Earth without destroying the environment overtime, you have to put a price tag on everything, including rivers, oceans, and the air, otherwise the "invisible hand" has no power to optimize its use. In other words, for the market to work without additional rules, unpriced externalities can't be alowed to exist. If you want to take the government out of pricing the commons, *there can be no commons* -- every river, stone, ocean, and gas molecule or absence thereof in air has to be outright owned by somebody who can set the price. At which point the only thing left on the planet that is in any way "free" is the market.
@SuperMrMuh
@SuperMrMuh 9 месяцев назад
Just some two cents from a physicist turned economist. You did a fairly solid summary of the textbook version of capitalism, but "the devil is in the detail". The (understandable) backlash in the comments section stems from the fact that most people don't believe this simple picture to be close to reality (and of course, as you explained, market failures are a part of it). And I have to agree with them. While the simple microeconomic description works for goods with little specialization required, like apples, bread and Döner, the model quickly breaks down for most of the products relevant in modern economies. Economists often fail to validate the assumptions on which their models build, and thus apply this simple model in all kinds of ways which are not valid. Thus they implicitly assume that markets always tend towards a (unique) equilibrium. Real markets can get stuck in suboptimal equilibria, or equilibria might be unstable (hint: financial markets). Real markets overwhelmingly tend to converge to oligopolies or monopolies (e.g. the whole tech sector), so the static picture of many competing companies is the exception than the rule. Capital allocation does not favor the common good, but is driven by highest profit opportunities (no, they are not equal, even though assumed in the models). Planned obsolescence, advertising, etc... One might argue that the problems can be fixed just by the right regulations. And arguably, some of them can be. But some are side-effects of the system's dynamics themselves, i.e. they will always show up one way or another, and even regulation frenzies won't stop these underlying dynamics from showing up again. The matter is of course not helped by the ideological debate. Especially the economics profession tends to deflect criticism on the realism of their models and thus closes itself off to innovation in their own science. Which of course heats up the debate even more.
@TeaParty1776
@TeaParty1776 9 месяцев назад
> markets always tend towards a (unique) equilibrium You are close to the truth but dont know it. Equilibrium is a constantly changing potential that ever actualizes. >Real markets overwhelmingly tend to converge to oligopolies or monopolies You evade the effect of convergence: divergence. Increased profits make possible increased competition. Capitalism is constant competition, actual or potential. Market leaders always face potential competition, thus they must constantly be more productive. These facts of capitalism were condemned in the 19th century both by Marx and religious conservatives, both of whom wanted a culture without independent thought. Your pseudo-economics is a rationalization for your terror of independent thought. Mans life requires the risk of knowledge. God and communism do not change this.
@coonhound_pharoah
@coonhound_pharoah 9 месяцев назад
@@TeaParty1776 In reality, free markets do not tend toward monopoly or oligopoly. It has never happened in history that a company undercut its competition and then hiked prices to obtain monopoly income. All monopolies in history are the result of the establishment of the monopoly by the government. The same is true of cartels. Cartels tend to disintegrate because the individual members have more and more motivation to break the cartel agreement as time passes.
@marinareis3606
@marinareis3606 9 месяцев назад
​@@TeaParty1776 It's that what you're seeing when you look around? More competition and efficiency? Wow I wonder how crazy people will find current society in as little as 100 years.
@SuperMrMuh
@SuperMrMuh 9 месяцев назад
@@TeaParty1776 did I mention in my first sentence that I'm speaking from a position of knowledge. There is of course a strict mathematical definition of equilibrium, which is referred to. And it has been proven that markets don't necessarily end up in an optimal equilibrium. Look up the Sonnenschein Mantel Debreu Theorem. Regarding competition, the keywords are brands, mergers and acquisitions. Brands form monopolistic competition. Competition is good for the overall market, but not the Individual firms. Therefore it is eliminated through M&A. I'm not sure what God and communists have to do with all this...
@SuperMrMuh
@SuperMrMuh 9 месяцев назад
@@BigEMU1 no need to stick with physics, I'm an economist by training. Weird, nowhere did I refer to distributive aspects (if you mean by Pareto distribution the distribution of wealth). I was commenting on the efficiency of markets in theory and practice.
@ArgonautasMPB
@ArgonautasMPB 4 месяца назад
Incredibly simplistic! Have you ever been to Brazil?
@ZeroRiskAppetite
@ZeroRiskAppetite 8 месяцев назад
I'm surprised this video is still up and you haven't removed it AND offered an explanation/apology.
@awesomeferret
@awesomeferret 5 месяцев назад
Oh, we have to apologize for spreading liberal values, OK, got it. 😂
@andrewlitfin1977
@andrewlitfin1977 9 месяцев назад
This is a level of analysis more akin to a PragerU video than your usual work. What the hell is this?
@-Christoph
@-Christoph 9 месяцев назад
April joke in september. The fact that it comes in september is part of the joke, I suppose.
@PandemoniumVice
@PandemoniumVice 9 месяцев назад
This my friend, is called "Selling out for a sponsorship.".
@zuz-ve4ro
@zuz-ve4ro 9 месяцев назад
ive heard that she's a hack from radical physics guys I know, idk what to think lol
@stampedetrail2003
@stampedetrail2003 9 месяцев назад
Yeah that is spot on. Disquieting.
@wacksonjittemore4013
@wacksonjittemore4013 9 месяцев назад
She saw how her trans video blew up, now she's doing stuff like this
@f.schnell
@f.schnell 9 месяцев назад
People are fully within their rights to branch out and comment on topics that they are not "experts" in, but really sticks out to me is how matter-of-factly she presents loads of statements here. This is no way to make a video on societal issues, where is the reflection, reasoning, the sources? This lack of reasoning would be typical for PragerU and similar propaganda channels, but is far below what I expected from Hossenfelder, whose videos I have enjoyed for a long time. This seems like a classical case of a overconfident STEM person barging into humanities to "solve all of this", which I kindly ask all my fellow people in STEM to refrain from doing. A different and more nuanced approach is needed in these fields.
@zukes6517
@zukes6517 9 месяцев назад
This really hit the nail on the head
@no-cv4dx
@no-cv4dx 9 месяцев назад
This seems like a bot comment. It says nothing about what's actually in the video, just a negative comment that is general and can be posted to any video.
@denvertuttle2583
@denvertuttle2583 9 месяцев назад
Yes but, according to Sabine (whom I normally love!) "That's another story." 😕
@mikean7074
@mikean7074 9 месяцев назад
There's not much backing up what she says because that's how all religion functions. She is fully in the cult of capitalism.
@1873Winchester
@1873Winchester 9 месяцев назад
@@no-cv4dxNah it's specific enough. the PragerU reference for instance is too specifically suitable to this topic, as is the STEM person barging into other fields analogy. It's not generalized and it's not AI generated.
@dialecticcoma
@dialecticcoma 5 месяцев назад
this is nearly as good as stevie wonders lecture on plate tectonics
@mariebecdelievre3935
@mariebecdelievre3935 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for your work Sabine! … it’s ‘adaptation’, not ‘adaption’ 🤓
@95_Nepentheses
@95_Nepentheses 9 месяцев назад
Isn't it ironic that this is the video coming right after one titled "Do your own research, but do it right"?
@matteogirelli1023
@matteogirelli1023 9 месяцев назад
No. She and her team did, and they made a good job out of it.
@lynth
@lynth 9 месяцев назад
​@@matteogirelli1023 She didn't put in even minimal effort. She literally recited a bunch of capitalist propaganda talking points and easily debunked myths (e.g. the "barter to money" myth) while insulting victims of capitalism like North Korea with her ahistorical takes that are ignorant of the responsibility of the US for the destruction of Korea... and at no point has she even defined capitalism and its most fundamental aspects (e.g. private property) nor in any way looked at the overwhelming criticism against capitalism. This entire video is badly researched, unscientific, ahistorical nonsense and severely discredits her.
@matteogirelli1023
@matteogirelli1023 9 месяцев назад
@@lynth what's that rant about Korea man... And she's not defending the US. I disagree entirely.
@lynth
@lynth 9 месяцев назад
​@@matteogirelli1023 She is promoting US propaganda and denigrating the DPRK (a victim of US imperialism). What exactly do you disagree with? Your unscientific and pointless comment is as good as Sabine's video.
@matteogirelli1023
@matteogirelli1023 9 месяцев назад
@@lynth with everything you just said and for that matter everything you're going to say ever ahah. Bye spam
@HPDevlin
@HPDevlin 9 месяцев назад
All the problems with Capitalism arise out of "but that's another story."
@DrTheRich
@DrTheRich 9 месяцев назад
as it does for any version of any system you try to explain in 15 minutes lol
@yamiyomizuki
@yamiyomizuki 9 месяцев назад
​@@DrTheRich if you are going to expect people to accept your position, you shouldn't be leaving multiple essential points unexplained. if 16 minutes isn't enough, you can always make the video longer.
@DrTheRich
@DrTheRich 9 месяцев назад
@@yamiyomizuki She never claims to expect people to accept her position. She just presents the subject, if don't you want to believe it then don't. Besides youtube is filled to the BRIM with more expansive videos on the subject If she made the video longer than 15 mins, people would get bored after 15 and still complain she didn't explain enough. Heck people often only watch 1 minute and then already comment about stuff that would be explained the next minute after...
@TheShizzlemop
@TheShizzlemop 9 месяцев назад
uhhhhhhhhhhh@@yamiyomizuki
@kryptoid2568
@kryptoid2568 9 месяцев назад
​@@yamiyomizukithis increases watch time anyway
@blist14ant
@blist14ant 8 месяцев назад
is not the special sciences that teach man to think; it is philosophy that lays down the epistemological criteria of all special sciences.
@JonathanXLindqviust
@JonathanXLindqviust Месяц назад
Wisdom is knowing what you know, and what you do not.
@frogstarian
@frogstarian 9 месяцев назад
I remember my Econ professor saying that economic models are "oversimplified and based on bad assumptions". And he was absolutely right.
@coonhound_pharoah
@coonhound_pharoah 9 месяцев назад
Neither of those statements is true. Your professor was a bad teacher.
@frogstarian
@frogstarian 9 месяцев назад
@@coonhound_pharoah how about the assumption that consumers have perfect knowledge? Is that really a reasonable assumption?
@coonhound_pharoah
@coonhound_pharoah 9 месяцев назад
​@@frogstarianModern economics does not assume consumers have perfect knowledge, as this assumption is not necessary to perform economics. It is only necessary to transform economic logic into a mathematical formula. Economics assumes all people have imperfect knowledge, because economics assumes people are the way they really are. There are mathematicians who pretend to do economics, and who assume customers have perfect knowledge because this assumption is required for their maths to work. But these people are not economists. They are mathematicians masquerading as economists. Acting as though an instrumental assumption is true is the exact problem with mathematical economics.
@coonhound_pharoah
@coonhound_pharoah 9 месяцев назад
@@utoobeizkaka2737 Of course. The one who actually understands the science is a "bad student." Unlike anthropologists who make claims about a science that particular science has never made. I'll go with "you have ideological bias" because it's clear you have that in spades, but haven't actually read a book in your life. Liking your own posts is such a childish thing to do.
@shikyokira3065
@shikyokira3065 9 месяцев назад
Which is exactly the reason why centralized controlled economy will never work. They will always oversimplified a complex problem when trying to implement solution as a policy in their economy.
@petecurry4881
@petecurry4881 9 месяцев назад
Your description of capitalism perfectly illustrates a fundamental imbalance inherent to the system. Everybody wants to be the one with wealth turning wealth into more wealth, not the guy who needs to borrow to turn apples into cider. That's why it starts off as a simple distributive system but ultimately tends towards stratification of wealth and power.
@VeteranVandal
@VeteranVandal 8 месяцев назад
I bet Sabine never visited a slum in Somalia. I want to see her preaching the good of capitalism there, in the exploited south. It's easier to think something is good when you have mostly benefited from it.
@ross4
@ross4 8 месяцев назад
It's actually crazy she managed to talk for 16 minutes about capitalism without mentioning the inherent power imbalance of labor and capital.
@Johnhart1944
@Johnhart1944 8 месяцев назад
She did say it's important to have good regulations to control the negative externalities of the system. Some countries have figured this out better than others. Minimum wages, rules against monopolies and deceptive marketing practices, taxing accumulations of wealth and using the money to help those at the bottom of the heap, etc. Go look up the GINI indexes for the countries of the world to see how different regulatory schemes change the balance. A bigger problem now may be how to rein in wasteful practices in things like deceptive advertising, planned product obsolescence, and the mindset that pushes people to buy things they don't need which creates more waste and pollution.
@DanJuega
@DanJuega 8 месяцев назад
@@Johnhart1944My capitalism just needs one more fix, bro. I promise it will be good this time.
8 месяцев назад
@@VeteranVandal And you've never visited Venezuela. Or Cuba, or Nicaragua.
@Rickle_Pick23
@Rickle_Pick23 6 месяцев назад
Very informative and entertaining! I would tell you what I found annoying about this video. But that’s a different story
@Marcello.Lextra
@Marcello.Lextra 7 месяцев назад
Dear Sabine, consider that I speak as a fan. I really like your videos on physics and specially enjoy your sense of humor. I am not an economist either (I am a lawyer), but the amount of wrong information here is beyond field specialization. History proves the origin of coin has nothing to do with what has been said, for example. I urge you to refrain from stepping out of where you are great.
@kilgoreT010
@kilgoreT010 9 месяцев назад
Unfortunately, I do not have a capital, therefore I am what Sabine would call “another story”.
@Martin-so7ep
@Martin-so7ep 9 месяцев назад
have you tried trading your banana for some eggs ?
@aaaaallllld7576
@aaaaallllld7576 9 месяцев назад
Omg I am overrun with excess chickens, time to issue some loans.
@gaburieruR
@gaburieruR 9 месяцев назад
Yes, that's the whole Marx analysis, that Sabine left in "another story". Some people don't have capital, and the ones who have exploit the ones who don't for even more capital, becoming a cycle. And as the ones who have the capital can make the rules, there's no more free and regulated market, becoming the whole "late stage capitalism" we are in
@formbi
@formbi 9 месяцев назад
​@@gaburieruR not just late stage capitalism, enterpreneurs have always worked with states (look up enclosure acts and primitive accumulation)
@DragonHuman00
@DragonHuman00 9 месяцев назад
@@gaburieruR People have been crying about capitalism being in the "late stage" for decades yet it has only improved over time. It's time to let the expression go, you only look dumb saying it.
@lukebottonemulvey225
@lukebottonemulvey225 9 месяцев назад
Hi Sabine, I love your channel for your approachable coverage of science, but there are a few glaring errors in this video, both logically and factually. 1) Let's start with the notion that currency emerged as a workaround for the inefficiencies of barter-trade relationships. The narrative you outline is a common one, popularized by Adam Smith's work "The Wealth of Nations" as you said. The problem here is that Smith's account of currency being "invented" to facilitate barter was purely speculative. The historical record shows *zero* cases of currency arising in this way. In fact, there is not even evidence of a society in which barter is the primary mode of exchange. The evidence shows that tribal societies operate(d) on the basis of a "gift economy." Instead of strictly accounting for debts, these economies function on a loose basis of credit. This is in part because hording surplus is A) difficult to do when you're producing perishable goods in a society without refrigerators and B) unhelpful in facilitating the long term survival of your tribe. If you have extra milk, you would be happy to give it away to a neighbor who needs it because you trust that she is likely to have your back when you need something. Furthermore, this type of cooperation fosters strong social bonds between tribe members. In most tribal societies, it is actually taboo to give someone a gift equal to what they gave you, because it implies the debt is equalized and your gift exchange is over. If you gave me a bucket of milk, I might give you something more valuable, like a chicken, so that you give me something back and we keep the gift economy going. Even if it is difficult to imagine cooperating with other people in this way from the vantage point of our alienated society, these are the types of social structures we find in reality. Many currencies emerged independently around the world, often starting out as tokens of religious importance, or later as a way to more efficiently extract taxes from colonized populations. I'd recommend checking out the book "Debt: The First 5000 Years" for more on this topic. It would make for a great topic for a video. 2) The next point you make takes a huge leap from primitive economies to society where there are already capitalists ready to invest in your individual enterprise. I cannot stress enough that the "juice press example" you gave in the video did not happen in tribal society. You are already working off faulty premises you laid out in the previous point, so my main contention would be that Sue couldn't/wouldn't have accumulated so much more surplus from here chickens than apple juice guy got from his apples because both of these enterprises would require *private* ownership of land, because if the land is public, than anyone could take the chicken's eggs or pick apples and both businesses would collapse. Tribal societies did not enforce individual ownership of private lands, but lets assume they did. This begs the question then, how did each person acquire the land for themselves? Did they buy it from someone else? If so how did that person get the land? Did they just tell everybody a certain plot of land was their's? If so how do they prevent other people from trespassing? This line of questioning shows that we are assuming a level of societal development that upholds and enforces regimes of private land ownership (i.e. with some sort of police force). I'll repeat again, this did not emerge as the natural product of barter relationships in tribal societies, but instead out of the individual expropriation and hording of surplus from private plots of land, and the exclusion of other people from using that land. For sake of keeping this comment under 10000 words, the wiki for "primitive accumulation" explains this concept in more detail. The main point is that this example is a gross simplification of how societies develop and shows a projection of our current social structure onto those of the past. 3) The last few segments of this video are really what drove me to write this comment. The idea that it was not the industrial revolution, but capitalism itself that drove the last 150 years of progress is ridiculous on its face. For one, the birth of capitalism was a gradual process starting back at least since the protestant reformation. It seems a bit too convenient that you mark the beginning of capitalism at the same time that the industrial revolution took off, and even more ridiculous you claim that capitalism caused the industrial revolution and all the progress that came with it. I'm sorry, did market forces create the disproportionate concentration of coal in the British Isles that made the industrial revolution possible? Was it the free market that built all the train lines across Europe and the Americas? Even more, you say later that Marx gave capitalism a bad reputation, and that "there was an element of truth to his fears because some things went badly wrong during the industrial revolution." Funny how capitalism gets all the credit and the industrial revolution gets all the blame. Next you claim that capitalism is an efficient system to distribute resources. That's not true. In the united states grocery stores throw away anything that doesn't sell because giving it away to people who need it would drag down the price of food. Same with tech companies. They would rather destroy what they create instead of giving it away. Same with landlords, who keep their units empty instead of housing the homeless. Nothing against the landlords or grocery stores or tech companies btw, they're making the rational choice in a system that favors profits over utility. But it doesn't sound very efficient to me. I'm not familiar with the penicillin example you gave, but I do know that there were scientists who could have patented it (making a lot of money like a good market actor), but specifically did not because of ethical concerns. Or take Jonas Salk, who invented the polio vaccine and chose to not patent the it or seek any profit from it in order to maximize its global distribution, saving millions of lives in the process. Or take the internet, or highways, or libraries, or hospitals, or NASA, or the myriad of innovations funded by, created by, and used by working people, not because they want a profit, but because they want to make a better world for other people. If the greatest inventors and scientist of our time were looking for money, they wouldn't have become scientists, they would have worked in the insurance industry. Finally you talk about capitalism causing environmental problems. I agree. However, you can't just brush off everything bad about capitalism as an externality. Companies are just trying to make a profit in the market, any unintended consequences are necessarily a product of that original impetus. As far as your bit on taxing carbon as a means of fighting climate change, that's probably a step in the right direction, but the idea that the climate is the only downside of capitalism, and that we would've avoided the problem if only we listened to economists is silly. The reason oil giants didn't listen to economists is because they couldn't hear them over the "cha-ching" of the potential profits they could make by lying about the risks of climate change. Same story with big tobacco lying about the carcinogenic risks of smoking or DuPont dumping PFAs into the Ohio River. These aren't externalities, they are results people making the conscious choice to trade human wellbeing for surplus value. In summary, this video presents misinformation about to the origins of currency, the nature of investment relationships, the driving force of the last 150 years of human progress, and potential solutions we can use to get out of this mess. And I haven't even scratched the surface on the exploitative relationships between workers and capital owners or the devastating effect capitalism has on democracy. I understand you're not a big social-science person, but I really hope you make a more thought-out video soon. Edit - My favorite part is when she says "capitalism will kill us all"
@rodrigoviannadealmeida7323
@rodrigoviannadealmeida7323 9 месяцев назад
THANK YOU so much for pointing out some of the issues I had with this video and going beyond and explaining many things I did not know. This video of Sabine's was a huge disappointment, in my personal opinion, as it was purely based on commonsense and did not seem studied through. This channel should understand that the viewership it seeks to attract is not usually satisfied with long minutes of simple explanations of basic commonsense ideas that we could've understood in a couple of words as we are acquainted with most of the basic concepts.
@anakides
@anakides 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for the comment. Thank god for capitalism!
@salokin3087
@salokin3087 9 месяцев назад
Salk didn't patent the vaccine cause he and the insitution couldn't patent it easily, it wasn't altruistic
@Synochra
@Synochra 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for taking the time to write all this down.
@Kevin-pg6uz
@Kevin-pg6uz 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for this really clear and comprehensive and detailed breakdown. Good comment 👍
@IRDeady
@IRDeady 8 месяцев назад
In your opening analogy, a more accurate scenario would have been if the person who wanted the apples or whatever used the military might of a technologically advanced nation to murder the apple farmers and take their land and then destabilize their entire continent, squashing any attempt at democracy that was not in line with the interests of the nation who killed all the people. I know others have said this, but you are making the classic mistake of viewing capitalism as a hypothetical, contained set of rules for transactions between individuals. It is not that, it has very rarely been that and it will never be that again at any point. It can be argued that it has had its benefits (only for people born in the right places of course) but it is well passed time for humanity to step back, look at the reality it has created, and move on. The only way to reach any other conclusion is to ignore the impact it has on the planet and the toll it has taken on the global south. I just watched your video about people telling you to stick to physics, so it hurts me to say this, but at least this time you simply do not seem to have a clear picture of what you're talking about. If your argument is "well, it mostly makes sense and it's better than kings and stuff." We all know that, that doesn't make it good though.
@Eleku
@Eleku Месяц назад
Sometimes I wonder if socialists really believe those crazy stories. Look at (Western) Europe, North America and Australia, the most capitalist continents ever. By coincidence, these continents are also the most stable and peaceful places in history. Now you look at the history in the last 5000 years. It's basically just famine after famine, wer after war, pandemic afer pandemic. Please tell me: Do you really believe that capitalism destabilizes a continent and squashes democracy? How come the most capitalist continents tend to be the most democratic ones? And which people got killed by capitalism exactly? Remember there were famines all the time in Europe before capitalism, so I think it's safe to say that capitalism saved countless lives.
@Eleku
@Eleku Месяц назад
By the way, don't say "the global south". Poverty is not related to climate zone. Australia and Singapore are in tropical areas but very rich. Just say low income countries instead of "the global south". If you blame capitalism for everything that is wrong, then how do you explain what is happening in India since the last 30 years? India used to be dependent on the Sowjet Union. After its collapse, India opened the markets. And now therer is a huge exonomic boom. Hundrets of millions of Indians are escaping poverty thanks to capitalism. How is that not good?
@daleskran8073
@daleskran8073 4 месяца назад
Excellent video - should be required viewing for everyone.
@Thomas-gk42
@Thomas-gk42 4 месяца назад
Sabine is my hero, but this video really is not excellent no matter what you think about economy: Five minutes of boring simplicity about the benefits of money and financial processes (apples, eggs and chicken farms) that everbody knows, then two minutes about one single and weak argument (penecillin) how free markets cause progress. No references, instead some propagandistic statements like the one about three historical and geopolitical absolutly different countries WE (not she!) don´t wanna live, which is a presumption. And at last the sad use of a term, capitalism, in her own and not common definition ("free markets + regulations", in fact it´s a political battleterm) that upseted so many people and was harmful for this great and marvolous channel. Ok, not her masterpiece, but the only one I dislike. The best for her work would be to delete it as fast as her pride and defiance allow it. Or it will be forgotten over time.
@glassbakeware
@glassbakeware 9 месяцев назад
“Capitalists only want a small return on their investment” is such a naive thing to say after mocking a teenager.
@karigrandii
@karigrandii 9 месяцев назад
Yeah where does the return come from? At what cost? Does it stay the same or does it grow or shrink? How can that keep on going forever? What about going forever if profits need to grow forever? So many questions just left open
@johnnonamegibbon3580
@johnnonamegibbon3580 9 месяцев назад
Capitalism doesn't create anything. It isn't tech focused, it's profit focused. Tech comes from the government. Corporations then repackage it and sell it to you at an upcharge.
@mikolajtrzeciecki1188
@mikolajtrzeciecki1188 9 месяцев назад
@@karigrandiiThe profits will grow only until it gets _profitable_ for a competitor to emerge and step into the given market.
@Aaackermann
@Aaackermann 9 месяцев назад
A sentence said often by people who don't understand compund interest. And I am confused that an acclaimed scientist like mrs Hossfelder falls for this notion.
@greenaum
@greenaum 9 месяцев назад
Right. The entire point of everything else she said, is that the capitalist would want the maximum possible return on their investment. Or else be out-competed by someone else who did.
@davidoliveira7184
@davidoliveira7184 9 месяцев назад
For someone who's brought clarity to complex physics topics, this video jumps the shark. It feels like a slow-motion crash (course) into the Dunning-Kruger effect. With simplistic, naive interpretations and moralistic undertones, it propagates myths and misconceptions that many experts have spent years trying to debunk from the public space - some of them Nobel laureates, and, multiple times requiring the use of the expression "Zombie Ideas" in the book’s title.
@0MinusTouch0
@0MinusTouch0 9 месяцев назад
Zero specific dispute of a single point she substantiated in the video. Your paragraph displays the performative of those who disagree with a topic, and yet holds no specific grievances with the foundations the topic is said to stand on. What myth or myths. Youre washed
@AL_THOMAS_777
@AL_THOMAS_777 9 месяцев назад
🙌 👏 🙏 🤝 👍 made my day mate ! ! !
@pseudofool
@pseudofool 9 месяцев назад
Absolutely well said. This video exposes the pretentiousness and shallow nature of her mindset.
@notanemoprog
@notanemoprog 9 месяцев назад
Nothing "pseudo" about you, fool @@pseudofool
@davidgjam7600
@davidgjam7600 8 месяцев назад
The trans rants were red flag #1, and now this just makes me realize that I should take everything she says with a heaping spoonful of salt
@szogun1987
@szogun1987 3 месяца назад
I'm pro-free-market but practical implementations of it have one big shortcomming: 3rd party liability. Enterprise manager should: * collect big chunk of profits and they does * pay capitalists shares of income and they does * should pay employees fair (according to contract and negotiation position) salary and they does * should cover effects of improper or invalid good delivered to customer and they does. Should cover loses of 3rd parties affected by enterprise and they almost don't (except extremely obvious cases).
@orkundisci6642
@orkundisci6642 7 месяцев назад
Primary property of capitalism is production is done for profits and not for needs of society.
@jimmygervaisnet
@jimmygervaisnet 9 месяцев назад
Capitalism is not about efficiently allocating resources to meet people's needs, but rather to meet private interests, which do not always align with the people's needs.
@RalloR
@RalloR 9 месяцев назад
Yes! I love she's getting a lot of thoughtful pushback. She's so conservative in regards to science even, there is dogma there too.
@donnadoes5738
@donnadoes5738 9 месяцев назад
Capitalism has nothing to do with meeting peoples needs, it's about meeting people's wants. Which is all anyone should want from an economic system, I will decide what I need.
@scienceontheright
@scienceontheright 9 месяцев назад
Without Capitalism, we would not have the progress and the wealth we have today. You may not like it, but you benefit from it every day. It's not perfect. But it's the best we have by far. Please reply using your computer or iphone, both end products of capitalism, which you purchased with your hard-earned money.
@itoibo4208
@itoibo4208 9 месяцев назад
Without Communism, we would not have the progress and the wealth we have today. You may not like it, but you benefit from it every day. It's not perfect. But it's the best we have by far. Please reply using your computer or iphone, both end products of communism, which you purchased with your hard-earned money. - Xi Jinping
@fullmetajacket2090
@fullmetajacket2090 9 месяцев назад
@@scienceontheright workers developed and produced every part of your computer or iphone. capitalists don't even organize the labor for modern electronics anymore. and don't forget how much of an impact NASA had on computers in the early stages. speaking of NASA, nice profile pic!
@ignacio3460
@ignacio3460 9 месяцев назад
I didn't expect Sabine to be a radical or anything but I'm kind of shocked by the lack of any real material or historical analysis and the reliance on truisms we're taught in high school
@draith3358
@draith3358 9 месяцев назад
The first part of the video was just her explaining money and markets as if that is an exclusive feature of capitalism. Not to mention a lack of knowledge on how bartering in communities works as if things are a one to one trade and not a community coming together to provide for everyone.
@i.shuuya3231
@i.shuuya3231 9 месяцев назад
Dissecting capitalism skipping material analysis. That's a classic!
@jorgemartinez42069
@jorgemartinez42069 9 месяцев назад
​@@draith3358Do you have any examples of that working at scale?
@nickiemcnichols5397
@nickiemcnichols5397 9 месяцев назад
After this, I’m convinced that I’m not convinced of anything she says.
@kimathihalley
@kimathihalley 9 месяцев назад
yea sorry i dont want your help maybe help your own ppl. if u add me to your system of sharing i would break just to fk with you. maybe you know getting in with the ppl distributing the resources and having them give me tons of stuff every year for my scam company. to stop me you would have to set up some sort of money police. who would also need alot of resources to function. what if they get corrupt? maybe i slide some juicy cars to the head of the money police to ignore me? damn that sucks maybe set up an auditor to audit the money police auditing me? dont forget that auditor needs resources to function. now this dept is democratically run and completely honest... except that one low level employee who is still in school and desperately needs a new car but hasnt qualified for it, plus he's my wife's friend's son... so at a party in my mega mansion i gift him a new car, next day my files have mysteriously disappeared. shit, im still getting away with stealing your resources and youre spending far more to stop me. BUT guess what your neighboring country has decided to invade. now all your shared resources are being pumped into the war effort. ppl are starving, desperate but there's no way out for them because all the food is centralized and going to the army... except for me im now snatching up skilled workers on the cheap and lobbying the govt. with material for their war etc etc. honestly this will go over your head but good luck being naive about how the world works, better hope someone doesnt come along and decides to disagree with your idealistic world because that is the moment it falls apart.
@singharkirat
@singharkirat 4 месяца назад
"but thats a different story"... Thats a good way to declutter, keep coherence and maintain emphasis..
@LunaT993
@LunaT993 7 месяцев назад
I didn't hear a definition of capitalism in the video. Perhaps I missed it, but all I heard was an example/definition of a capitalist--one who is willing to invest capital. Capitalism is defined by Oxford as "an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit." A lot of the benefits described are benefits associated with investing capital in markets plus science and industry but do not seem exclusive to capitalism itself, i.e. capital can, and maybe should, come from communal organizations--community credit unions, governments, organized labor forces, rather than private individuals.
@leGEEK84
@leGEEK84 9 месяцев назад
Damn so now it's not "explain me like I'm five" anymore but "explain me like you're five"
@snowballeffect7812
@snowballeffect7812 9 месяцев назад
Yes, she tried this with biology once, too and it was as if she forgot how to read scientific papers. It's fine to have an opinion, but she's pulling a JBP and assuming she's an expert in literally everything. I am not sure why she thought making this video was a good idea; it's frankly misinformation.
@randygram9310
@randygram9310 9 месяцев назад
🤣😂 I did laugh at this comment. too true.
@tamatebako_yt
@tamatebako_yt 9 месяцев назад
lol!
@DavidJohnson-ib1dh
@DavidJohnson-ib1dh 9 месяцев назад
If economists claimed that capitalists shit golden bricks I think Sabine might have said "shitting golden bricks can cause constipation.... but that's another story". Maybe next time read the critics of capitalism, not just their fanboys.
@leroysimon5692
@leroysimon5692 8 месяцев назад
👍🏾
@JoshNpublicgplus
@JoshNpublicgplus 8 месяцев назад
She clearly didn't even read the fanboys. The video comes across like a summary of Smith's and Mises' Simple Wiki pages, with a little bit of Prager U sprinkled in there for good measure.
@vitulus_
@vitulus_ 8 месяцев назад
Its an intro to capitalism in a short video. This isn't just their "fanboys," it's talking about the history and motivations behind capitalism. She also educated people about the importance of the government in regulating the economy, something a lot of conservatives don't understand. That's a good thing in my opinion.
@DavidJohnson-ib1dh
@DavidJohnson-ib1dh 8 месяцев назад
@@vitulus_ The history was fake. Anthropologists know that the story of barter being inefficient so currency was invented is BS. That's just not what happened. The "history" was invented by economists and is a myth. Honestly a lot of economics is bunk. It's not a scientific field. She should have read the critics of capitalism and not just the fanboys.
@SylwesterKogowski
@SylwesterKogowski 4 дня назад
Why don't you read about how all the ideas of capitalism haters turned out? How many people have to die in order for you to understand? Socialism is nothing else but casting spells on reality. "Why don't we just write a rule that everyone works for everyone else and that will solve all the world's problems". And when they finally get rid of all the people that became wealthy out of their own hard work, only the thieves and cheaters remain, and as the only people with any wealth left in the whole country, they slowly take it over, easily buying off people pushed by socialism to the brink of poverty.
@LeonMRr
@LeonMRr 7 месяцев назад
It's funny how the comments here say much more about people's emotions towards capitalism than about the problems of the system itself.
@thatguyyouhatealot
@thatguyyouhatealot 6 месяцев назад
Strawman argument
@jerkysans
@jerkysans 6 месяцев назад
I think the problem with replacing capitalism is that there isn't a lot of models that are not capitalistic in nature that has proven themselves to be successful. The closest functional model that can replace Capitalism is social democracy (like the sort practiced in Scandinavian countries), but those are still based on capitalism. I think what we really need is a system for which basic needs like healthcare, housing, and food are provided for / heavily subsidized by the state but production and innovation is driven by market demand.
@thatguyyouhatealot
@thatguyyouhatealot 6 месяцев назад
Are you deliberately ignoring the success of communism in Asia and Europe?
@jerkysans
@jerkysans 6 месяцев назад
@@thatguyyouhatealot in Europe, there are no more communist states after the collapse of the USSR. There was also this experiment they did with Germany after WWII, where the communist side in the East was plagued with poverty, while the west prospered. If communism was viable, why did the whole Eastern bloc abandon it? China was not successful under Mao and only became successful after they opened their economy and embraced capitalism (all while insisting they are a socialist state with Chinese values). Of the remaining communist countries now, China is the only thriving nation (though they have a debt crisis and a worsening economy), and it's not because of communism why they progressed. Vietnam and Laos are only moderately successful. Then there's Cuba and North Korea.
@thatguyyouhatealot
@thatguyyouhatealot 6 месяцев назад
@@jerkysans The Soviet Union and China were some of the poorest nations in the world before their communist revolutions and became global powers afterwards. That's an overwhelming success. Cuba has made amazing strides in healthcare. Many argue these economies could have never been built under capitalism. Communism is 100% a viable alternative to capitalism
@jerkysans
@jerkysans 6 месяцев назад
@@thatguyyouhatealot Mao literally drove millions of Chinese to death from hunger due to poor planning. Russia was highly dependent on oil for its economy. I don't 100% believe capitalism is sustainable in its current form. There are things that should be regulated more heavily, and the distribution of wealth / resources needs a lot of optimization.
@thatguyyouhatealot
@thatguyyouhatealot 5 месяцев назад
@@jerkysans Famines happen in every economy though? Especially when there is a transfer in power
@sethkamens6085
@sethkamens6085 9 месяцев назад
Sabine, why do you mention Cuba as a negative example of what happens when you don't embrace Capitalism when it has been cut off from most of the world and thus has literally not been able to participate in global Capitalism yet has produced some absolutely incredible medical breakthroughs (just a few examples being the first to develop a meningitis B vaccine, first to prevent the transmission of HIV from a mother to child, and the development of a lung cancer vaccine? How do you explain this? Just one of many critiques I could make, but at least this is one that I don't see being raised by others.
@BluesManPeich
@BluesManPeich 9 месяцев назад
I was going to raise exactly this. She's attributing stuff to "capitalism" or lack thereof quite arbitrarily, disregarding or misrepresenting international relations and geopolitics, class relations, economic structure, Marx's critique... and her own incentives to talk authoritatively about topics where she clearly is it of her element (also capitalism). We'll always have her videos about dark matter I guess.
@danschneider7531
@danschneider7531 9 месяцев назад
Reminds me of the Capitalism got the Covid vaccines nonsense when in fact it was large gov't funding, not private capital, that succeeded in that regard.
@gparizoto
@gparizoto 9 месяцев назад
Nice to see that someone else noticed it!
@renatopereira2315
@renatopereira2315 9 месяцев назад
That would actually require understanding history beyond: "Under socialism there is no innovation"
@ai_serf
@ai_serf 9 месяцев назад
the internet came from public research, darpa, not private corporations. corporations just pillage the hard work of the public.
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