Captain Marvel vs Iron Man | Civil War 2

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@comicpop Год назад

Pick up Civil War 2 here: amzn.to/2t4umJf

@gettingartsywithalobster1949 7 лет назад

"THE CLOUDS ARE MAKING INHUMANS AND TURNING THE FROGS GAY" - Alex Jones Marvel Prime

@Waaagh40KRed 3 года назад

Don't forget that they have been killing mutants.

@MrMike11233 7 лет назад

The Jennifer Walters trial you mentioned..kind of set a tone for the whole event. In it, she is representing a former costumed villain who was eventually convicted for "talking shop." He did not plan a heist, a kidnapping, or a murder. He didn't even have his costume any longer. But the guy was convicted, and Jennifer Walters defended him - vigorously. And then she does a complete 180 and gets on the side of Carol Danvers in this whole fiasco. At that point, I was out. No lawyer, I'll say it again, *no lawyer* would ever get behind a doctrine that punishes before the crime has taken place. Due Process, anyone? Fourteenth Amendment? Just blink if any of these words seem familiar. *Sigh* I hated Civil War II so much...

@juststatedtheobvious9633 2 года назад

It's not like Tony's side was written any better. They manage to save the Earth from Thanos....and this justifies Tony kidnapping and torturing the innocent psychic who warned them? They had to make Carol's side into fascists, because otherwise Tony, with his rants about the natural order, looks incoherently psychotic.

@nailinthefashion 6 месяцев назад

But the point to me is to say, at what point would one ignore those rights? This is that context, so you would just be against Carol, it's good writing in that way. You relate thru disagreeing and seeing the obvious disharmony, so you'd be on the right side of history in that timeline. I would've kinda agreed with Carol but ultimately precogs aren't always right anyway so we should at least try to change our fate

@pikapal91 7 лет назад

"Times change, and so must I. I'll always remember when the Comic Pop couch was me."

@astitvasrivastava2821 3 года назад

I see you are a man of culture as well

@dekaritheprofessor2631 3 года назад

Love the reference! Miss what used to be the series 😭❤❤

@threex0xthree 2 дня назад

@@dekaritheprofessor2631 what reference is that?

@chrisfreeman6819 5 лет назад

"As a kid you dont menifest your mutation yet" "But you're still a mutant!!" "Oh i see yes" 😂😂😂

@gabrielreyesjr7852 7 лет назад

ulysses died on the way back to his home planet

@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache 7 лет назад

*Eternity:* "There is so much more to the universe, Ulysses. Come. Let me show you." *Ulysses:* "...That's a pillow." *Eternity:* "..Yes...it is..." _smothers_

@ItsTheFizz 7 лет назад

Civil War II was doomed to fail from the premise alone... The whole struggle revolves around the conceit that precognition is a limited and recently-introduced resource in the Marvel Universe, which even the most cursory follower of comics can tell you is NOT TRUE. But like you said, HONEY BENDIS DON'T CARE

@SeekerLancer 5 лет назад

Superboy Prime's retcon punch has nothing on the unstoppable retcon power of Bendis.

@WannabeWryter 4 года назад

Poor Captain Marvel

@ianmckee4726 7 лет назад

Ive always maintained that Old Man Logan should have been the one to kill Banner. His whole deal in his book at that time was preventing his future, and Banner was on top of his list. Would have advanced his deal and help showcase the perils of alt futures.

@anthonylynch423 7 лет назад

Ian McKee slow clap! Awesome idea and the ultimate revenge old man Logan has been seeking

@spiderbatman97 7 лет назад

That would have may way to much sense, Bendis couldn't allow that (the funny thing is that he actually wrote a mini for him in Secret Wars, so he could have tied it to that) he has to go for the contrived route and pissing more fans along the way.

@ianmckee4726 7 лет назад

I mean, Bendis loves nothing above referencing himself, and he wrote OML, so I expected him to do that. It would even be a great Bendis moment of everyone freaking out about who this old guy is and why he has claws, and one of the extraordinary X-Men crew trying to explain hes from an alt future. He could ahve an entire issue of Bendis-speak of people interrupting each other and asking the same questions over again as a room full of idiots all talk over each other debating the thing.

@spiderbatman97 7 лет назад

Maybe Lemire beg him to not do that with the characther that he was writting, or he just forgot about and thought that this idea was better.

@geekmangacomic9916 7 лет назад

Ian McKee Old Man Logan was there when they went to confront Hulk. Tbh, I would have thought that Old Man Logan would have lashed out and killed him right there. He had so much motivation to do it. Think: He wanted to kill Banner. He wanted to prevent the death of all the heroes. He should have sliced Banner's neck right there.

@ItsTheFizz 7 лет назад

Eternity "Poochie-ing" Ulysses away doesn't even make sense because at the time of CW2, it was a major plotpoint in The Ultimates that something or someone had physically bound Eternity with unbreakable chains in the multiverse... AND CAROL'S THE GODDAMN LEADER OF THE ULTIMATES!

@gettingartsywithalobster1949 7 лет назад

Man a garbage book means a great episode right off the bat!

@gettingartsywithalobster1949 7 лет назад

The Ezek Rule #2 Screw ties you shouldn't have to read a million titles to get a single story

@kofteburger 7 лет назад

man

@20DollarGoldPiece 7 лет назад

DoctorMeatball Definitely!!

@excelsiorreview 7 лет назад

If you guys are reading this what is a good marvel comic to start reading

@loganflowers564 7 лет назад

Nickoles Jones astonishing x-men just came out its probably the best book marvel has and it just came out last week I believe

@raray12 6 лет назад

I love Tiffany's face when sal said they use magic here lmao

@tylerjay213 7 лет назад

If this book proved anything, it's that Bendis (minus the characters he invented) only knows how to write Spider-Man, IronMan, and Daredevil well, and this coming from someone who loves Bendis' work

@zerozaku1468 7 лет назад

Tyler Torres what do you think of his Powers Bureau?

@seanberrodin801 7 лет назад

Which is why the only big events that he writes and are good are ones like Secret Invasion where the characters he knows how to write are the main characters and all the other guys make minor cameos. However, with Civil War II all these characters that Bendis can't write are the main characters and the guys like Daredevil and Spidey only get five lines.

@TheTheDontae 7 лет назад

Tyler Torres avengers? Like a lot of avengers books

@TheTheDontae 7 лет назад

Omniverse yes

@SnackMuay 7 лет назад

Tyler Torres didn't he have a good run on x men with kitty pryde serving as the "main character"?

@haasztamas 7 лет назад

Ben: "Yeah... like a dog..." Tiffany, Ben: *histerical laughter* Sal: "WHAT?!" I'M DEAD LAUGHING 😂😂😂

@haasztamas 7 лет назад

*At the end* Ben: I can bang my wife! But I can't lick my own ass.... Sal: *gasp* Sal: *hand movement* Ben: *laughter* me: my stomach is literally hurting cuz I replayed this scene like 5 times and I am crying laughing, I fucking love you guys 😂😂😂

@jabezcreed 7 лет назад

There is an Inhuman that became a door.

@Helidokter1 7 лет назад

Can we please keep Bendis away from Clint Barton, Fraction dedicated time during his Hawkeye run to prove Hawkeye isn't a killer, And Bendis just makes him a murderer again.

@skorcher5633 7 лет назад

As an avid Inhumans reader/fan... Sal, I have something to say to you thats been a long time coming... Michele doesn't get redemption.

@comicpop 7 лет назад

+Skorcher Closure!

@jtparker1003 6 лет назад

Lmfao

@WebSlingerProductionsofficial 6 лет назад

It's been 9 months since your comment...Does she get redemption now?

@thomasjohnson1885 6 лет назад

Web-Slinger She’ll get her own event that will shake the marvel universe to its core.

@WebSlingerProductionsofficial 6 лет назад

Thomas Johnson Oh Nice

@WhiteRaven696 7 лет назад

The thing that gets me about Civil War 2 is... Both Tony and Carol were right in their own ways. But it was written in such a way that they humanized Tony's "you can't punish people for something they may never do" viewpoint and didn't focus on the very real and very logical possibility that Carol could just have SHIELD and superheroes stationed at the locations of potential catastrophes, stopping them as they begin and imprisoning the guilty culprits. Instead they just had Carol hounding people who, at the time, were just innocent of the crimes they were accused of. A good civil war story should show both viewpoints, bring logic and emotion into both viewpoints and make it a heartbreaking decision for the readers to pick a side. But with CW2, because of the way BMB decided to write Carol, there was no logic to her actions, she wildly accused people as soon as visions came in, instead of waiting for situations to arise and cutting down the threat accordingly. Preparation instead of accusation should've been her method and it wasn't so all the potential this story had just flew out the window.

@shiningnight12 5 лет назад

THIS. This is reason why I hated Civil War 2 cause it was so one sided. It never developed Carol side at all.

@thetotallyrealkeanureeves2563 5 лет назад

Iron Man actually once built a supercomputer that would predict crimes, and did exactly what you said Carol should have done.

@TevyaSmolka 7 лет назад

In fact Peter Parker aka Spider-Man isn't even in this train wreck event which is really frustrating because WTF was the point of his useless tie in

@WannabeWryter 4 года назад

He's not there, that's like if Red Robin was seen killing HawkMan and Batman didn't show up

@TevyaSmolka 4 года назад

Amari Wryter indeed

@nerdking1019 3 года назад

MONEY

@TevyaSmolka 3 года назад

@@nerdking1019 I know and honestly at that point during that time i should've suspected from the very beginning that tie-in was basically a cash grab that went nowhere in the long scheme of things.

@robertcorr6971 7 лет назад

I always thought the crappiest thing about this was that Spider-man 2099, a man from the future, was not more involved with a story about an inhuman may or may not be able to clearly predict the future

@juanjoseaparcana1447 7 лет назад

What's funny is that Al Ewing in his Ultimates run, made Eternity prisoner of a bigger cosmic entity at the time of Civil War II. Which means that Bendis didn't pay attention to continuity again. -_-

@YAYCONFORMITY 7 лет назад

The problem with this was the same as the problem with Civil War 1. Basically, the characters all found out that the title of the book was "Civil War". So they all said "welp, I guess that instead of acting like rational human beings we better start civil warring".

@liverusrock6789 7 лет назад

The only future vision from the last issue I really cared about was Old King Thor fighting Loki (who is using the necrosword) mostly because I want to see that fight.

@AW3SOM3 7 лет назад

Tif looks offended when ever Dr. Strange is mentioned

@chriswaugh1177 7 лет назад

That Xmen jacket is so cool and it looks great on Tiffany, the color of the jacket with the color of her hair makes her look like an Xmen character.

@TheRealZubes 6 лет назад

Thank you!

@grubbu7073 2 года назад

The way sal spitefully looks at Tiffany every time doc strange uses magic is hilarious

@akap 7 лет назад

Funny that Thanos dresses like Csble, considering they're being played by the same actor.

@priceyyeti4058 7 лет назад

Had a pretty shitty day at work. Pissed off my boss to no end, didn't do my work as well as I could, pretty much disappointed in myself. And this just put the biggest fucking smile on my face.

@jackawatkins87 6 лет назад

I can't find anybody that has said the words "MINORITY REPORT!" That's exactly what the conflict in this story is

@batfreeze56 7 лет назад

I wouldn't say that Ulysses looks like a Dragon Ball Z character, Tiffany. Dragon Ball characters have a lot more subtlety.

@Avatarconner 6 лет назад

12:20 is the greatest moment in comicpop history.

@z7983 5 лет назад

I still don't know why Iron Man was using a fkn War Machine armour to fight Captain Marvel at the end. He should've used his normal armour or Endo Sym armour or Bleeding Edge armour etc and he would've easily destroyed Captain Marvel. Putting him into coma was just done solely to introduce Riri Williams

@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache 7 лет назад

This is kind of like christening a ship's maiden voyage by hitting it with a bottle of Strawberry Schnapps.

@ghoulking7616 7 лет назад

It would have been better if Ulysses' power was making people see illusions and the inhumans thought he could see the future and they made everyone else think it, while Ulysses was just like, "I don't want to piss off these all powerful beings so I'm just gonna go along with it." Would have injected some actual stakes and tension in the story.

@eden6862 7 лет назад

"No, use turkey...! Don't use turkey!" I'm officially a fan. 😂

@99jmaster 7 лет назад

I remember before Thanos shows up War Machine makes a joke asking Tony for new armor and then Thanos just gut punches Rodey to death

@TechnicolorGhosts 7 лет назад

Personally I don't hate civil war 2. I feel its just not.....needed or wanted or necessary.

@TechnicolorGhosts 7 лет назад

Also just to add this Nick spencer should've written civil war 2

@bobcho105 7 лет назад

Eoin O Connell or good

@TevyaSmolka 7 лет назад

agreed its not only unnecessary but also a complete cash grab plain and simple

@deazy6453 6 лет назад

Eoin O Connell same

@WebSlingerProductionsofficial 6 лет назад

Most of the good books are not wanted or necessary. It's just good storytelling which will make you think it's good. Civil War 2 just doesn't have it.No good plot,characters acting out of character,Carol was %100 wrong so not a good civil war and etc...

@FoundationWorship 7 лет назад

rewinded to 12:25 about 4 times tbh

@donb7519 5 лет назад

Just listen to the way sal says what

@tatersalad76 4 года назад

@@donb7519 straight up went Skeletor with his "wat"

@donb7519 4 года назад

@@tatersalad76 honestly ben gifts us with the best back issue moments

@tatersalad76 4 года назад

@@donb7519 he really does though

@donb7519 4 года назад

@@tatersalad76 i mean between this and doomsday sex what more can you ask for

@Yungtacosss 7 лет назад

Lmao I HATED Ulysses seeing Sal ragging on him and this book in general gives me so much joy lol

@levismith4515 7 лет назад

For the last few months I've seen the production quality skyrocket. With the perfectly placed pop-ups, better lighting, sound, etc. This new set is certainly a testament to that. It's clean, focused, and just nice to look at. I'm really glad that you guys can expand but I hope you don't lose the heart you've held since the Little House Days. But from what I've seen you aren't losing it. Glad to see you guys expand!

@oatmat 7 лет назад

Man that gorgeous Art by David Marquez was completely wasted on this stupid fucking book

@oatmat 7 лет назад

Marvel has some of the best Artist working right now: Steve Mcniven, David Marquez, Sara Pichelli, Esad Ribic, Russell Dauterman, Mahmud Asrar, Brian Stelfreeze, I would love to see some of them come over to DC already, I mean can you imagine Russell Dauterman drawing Batman he would totally bring a whole new element to it that we haven't seen in a long time!!!!

@oatmat 7 лет назад

oops totally forgot Stuart Immonen

@dennisssmith430 7 лет назад

And, of course, Marvel just HAD to shit ALL over all of them at their Summit meeting :/ Idk why those artists even bother staying

@Enzo_Matrix92 7 лет назад

Just like ''Justice League Cry for Justice''.

@liverusrock6789 7 лет назад

Marvel has artists that would kill It in some especific solo character books but for some reason they don't put them in there, guys like Alex Maleev or Steve McNiven on Punisher and Leinil Yu or David Aja on Daredevil would be awesome to see imo.

@wilagaton9627 7 лет назад

54:45 "So basically both sides are deciding *TO BE A-HOLES* "

@flywheelshyster 5 лет назад

the lockjaw human background story is still the best inhuman comic pitch I've ever heard, including the actual inhuman books....well except for Warren Ellis' Karnak, though it went nowhere fast, was wicked bones for its short time lived.... you know what, even better than that

@aisnota5192 3 года назад

Mark Millar: "I ruined Marvel!" Brian Michael Bendis: "Ha! Challenge accepted!"

@barryallen2569 7 месяцев назад

48:49 Damn, Carol really looked at Miles and just went "It's a Canon event, bro"

@comixproviderftw_02 7 лет назад

WOOOAAAHH... This set. IT'S LIKE DA FUTURE!

@ilhamitangor2622 7 лет назад

Bruh your amazing tributes plz comeback to making videos

@comixproviderftw_02 7 лет назад

İlhami Tangör I wish I could. But there's so much stuff in my personal life that's going on, like college and home that I hardly have time to make. But you can look up Guigo, who also does tribute videos and does a good job at it.

@Grievousish 7 лет назад

My god it was impossible to side with Captain Marvel on this one. Say what you will about the first Civil War, at least both sides had some good arguments (up until the whole thor clone thing at least). This shit show was just one sided from start to finish.

@SSj5Alan 7 лет назад

"Bendis is a great writer when he gives a shit." So Bendis hasn't given a shit since 2004? Lol jk

@devinamendez9709 7 лет назад

i love this channel...thanks comicpop family

@Hardy34 7 лет назад

Congrats on the new set guys. Y'all deserve it. Appreciate all the hard work. Awesome episode y'all!

@TheDrugOfTheNation 7 лет назад

31:57 and it's a world of dread and fear, where the only water flowing is the bitter sting of tears.

@michaelthethird702 7 лет назад

OMG. I love Depeche Mode, 24:25 may be one of my favorite Back Issues tangents ever. Bwahahahahaha

@oldkingcole4354 4 года назад

Stark does make a good point in this about how Ulysses visions could be influenced by his own bias and stuff.

@Keyxei 7 лет назад

This episode is hilarious!loving the new layout, and I hope to see you guys succeed even more in the future!

@shaneyvincent 7 лет назад

wiggum: "erm..he was turning into a monster tho.."

@LeitoLegito 7 лет назад

I love how it's 13 minutes until they talk about the actual book, LOL, fave show, easily.

@Farmeryeti 7 лет назад

That Iron Man Mk II helmet kicks ass. Oh, and the new studio does too. I guess.

@jdog1823 7 лет назад

I know why hawkeye left he wanted to escape this comic

@brandondaniels1862 7 лет назад

Great episode as always. Looking forward to more in the new studio.

@Itfeelgoodkids 7 лет назад

I love the new setup. I hope you guys keep expanding!

@The_High_SeAs 7 лет назад

Damn, you guys are fantastic, you need more subscribers. Thanks that was informative.

@endergamez5874 6 лет назад

Ben: "Yeah, for a dog." Tiff: *Looks at Ben horrified Sal: "Wat?"

@evandavies9780 7 лет назад

Wait, Ulysses got his powers at Ohio State? I'll be going there in the fall. Should I make a terrigen mist club? lol.

@cmmosher8035 7 лет назад

Bendis seems to be best when he is writing smaller stories like Daredevil, Alias and Ultimate Spiderman. He can day to day life stories but damn do his bigger epic stories go flat.

@nudienboy 7 лет назад

nice upgrade. keep up the good work. I love listening to your show while I game.

@jalenlivingston2287 7 лет назад

Love you guys. Keep up the good work

@jeffstanley7184 7 лет назад

The new studio looks awesome guys. Great back issues episode to boot.

@attackonlui1367 7 лет назад

An hour of back issues....my body is ready

@antgto 7 лет назад

Sweet! I legitimately tried avoiding this event, but I just know in this context it'll be awesome.

@greyscott5908 7 лет назад

Very intrigued by how Sal is going to explain this mess lol love you guys, cool studio place.

@SnackMuay 7 лет назад

I love whenever Sal shifts his tone, like at 5:46 you always know something stupid is coming.

@MikeDo_0 7 лет назад

The new set is beautiful guys. Good job 👏🏾

@TigarArkham 7 лет назад

are we sure bendis didn't write batman vs superman?

@alexandrumarin8981 7 лет назад

Ben is hillarious! Always askin' the right questions 😂😂😂

@ImmortalTaro 7 лет назад

what a fitting way to start of the All New All Different back issues ! :D

@hanamori21 7 лет назад

Congrats on your success guys. The new studio is great. RIP #CouchPoP

@thestinger9974 7 лет назад

Hey ComicPop , love the episode and the new set , speaking of....I guess you could say that it's a NEW FRONTIER , so maybe you could cover the book of the same title anytime soon , anyway thanks a lot for this hour of fun and i hope next week's book will be as good !!!

@zinnydonovan3681 7 лет назад

I love the new set! And an excellent episode to go along with it too.

@jcjaff571 7 лет назад

New studio looks amazing, I'll have to check out your video on it. And a bigger couch!

@rockymaffitt3345 7 лет назад

If you read the Capt Marvel tie ins, you would see how conflicted Carol was about this. She was following the orders of her superiors when using Ulysses. Though she had her own doubts.

@zachhaynes6924 7 лет назад

New quote for the back "It's Great!" ComicPOP.

@Sicod79 Год назад

In X-Factor Peter David clarified that Lockjaw being a man was a joke the Inhumans were playing on Ben Grimm.

@the-nightmayor 7 лет назад

I got your back Ben, I've been working on creating a living pegasus for years! Currently, all I have is something I refer to as a "hover-donkey", but I'm getting there!

@TheArkAng3L 7 лет назад

The new place is a bit of a change; I'm on the fence since I kinda liked that jam packed wall of comic paraphernalia. I'm sure this place will grow on us as time goes by though. Another great Back Issues episode, you guys make my Thursdays. Keep up the amazing work!

@mustfaaboassd 7 лет назад

12:22 a closer look to the sociology of Ben

@sofaninja0552 7 лет назад

SAL how about Agent Venom, I know that like me you enjoyed FrankenCastle and that along with Agent Venom is Remender at his best

@sofaninja0552 7 лет назад

I'd also be interested in hearing what you think about Age of X I persona lly thought the story wasn't the best but had some good character interpretations Arcade turning Cyclops into Basilisk weaponizing him as a means to execute other mutants on Alcatraz

@Chalk0073 7 лет назад

I second Age of X, one of the coolest short crossovers ever

@Enzo_Matrix92 7 лет назад

Age of X was fucking awesome.

@leomoreno7369 2 года назад

The more I here about Brian Michael Bendis's work, the more I wonder how he keeps getting work.

@sirtoby4939 7 лет назад

Auw, mah guys. You get a new place just to shoot a home-run of a Back Issues episode for my birthday? That's super considerate of you :'D

@TevyaSmolka 7 лет назад

happy birthday

@thelonewolfronstringer6266 7 лет назад

I just wanna say thanks to you all at comic pop love your videos not one day passes with out watching

@THEREDWOLF333 7 лет назад

i LOVE THE SET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK

@dbzrulesok 7 лет назад

Never realised how much I loved Valiant hardcover spine designs, but damn, those are some sexy trades.

@architeuthis3476 7 лет назад

Congratulations on the new setup!

@yk2k_illustrations 7 лет назад

Haha yes ! Ive been waiting for this. lets see them rip through this book

@IvanTheTurrible 7 лет назад

So glad you did this. I didn't just drop this book after issue 1, I stopped reading Marvel entirely because of this dam event until recently

@thetizic 7 лет назад

A little echoey but loving the set. Where'd you get that X men sweater Tiff?

@TheRealZubes 7 лет назад

TheTiz at a con! I think it's either we love fine or her universe.

@anthonylynch423 7 лет назад

TheRealZubes awesome tiff! I love Ethan and Ben but seeing you & sal on an episode together is always amazing! Y'all are amazing! Keep it up been following for a few years now and have watched every back issues from episode 1 to now

@ellrick 7 лет назад

damn, the new set is SLICK. Very professional.

@dragonmares59110 7 лет назад

I don't think i have laugh this much in a back issues since a long time !

@evagrius3818 7 лет назад

Loving the new set guys !

@darrenfromwales7978 7 лет назад

Good mornining guys from the uk. Hope all is well across the pond. Like the new set, can remember the one before the red sofa. You have come a lomg way, there we were celebrating 30k subs