Cardinal Conversations: Reid Hoffman and Peter Thiel on "Technology and Politics" 

"I prefer a cure for cancer" OHHHHHH!!! Peter killed it there at the end.

It's scary how smart Peter Theil is.

Peter Thiel is one of the few people that understands the real danger of having somebody decide for society what is allowed or proper and what is not. That road is a very very scary one if you choose it.

The battle of the Peters: Thiel vs Griffin

The good stuff starts at 12:25

The ending sums it up. Peter has had his argument thought out in his head for over a decade and has been advocating for it. He knows his position. All I hear from Reid are questions about "the true nature of reality" and getting to the bottom of true and false. Peter has the clearly defined viewpoint. The left has to decide where it stands.

Peter Thiel's point on slumlords is really interesting.

I always find it mindblowing that LinkedIn , RU-vid, Tesla, PayPal ...etc were once in the same room. Like to think of it , what are the odds?

Make America great again is very offensive to Silicon valley..What a point!

Don’t now Reid Hoffman and based on your comments I’m not missing much. Kudos to Stanford on BRINGING BACK genuinely diversity of THOUGHT to the university.. WHAT a concept.

Skip to 12:25 to get to what you came for.

Thumbs up for Thiel

Now THIS is a panel :) Good work (like always), Hoover Institution!

Peter Thiel 2020

Hoover institute have some of the best debates.

Comparing these 2 ...Thiel is a polymathical triple PHD and Hoffman is a college freshman. I would pay to hear Thiel and I would pay Hoffmann to just shut up. He is a lightweight.

"Would you be friends if you met today" I bet I could answer that. Peter would be up for it but Reid wouldn't. How can I guess that ? My own experience in our current polarized society.

"makes Gamergate look tame " renting space in their heads since '16.....

1:26:00 Peter is asked how he connected with fly-over states. Because he is smart.

collective truth ? what if "collective truth" is actually a collective lie ?

Peter is like a mentat from Dune haha

endless intro's!

Peter Thiel thinks clear, nothing scary

Considering diverse perspectives is essential. Considering and then dismissing perspectives that advocate NOT allowing diverse perspectives is also essential.

I don't got it. Did Reid Hoffman make a personal attack at Peter on 53:00?

The role of government in zoning laws is central..There is no doubt about it. Immigration without zoning adjustment puts unnatural pressure on whole populations. It may force women who would rather raise children to not do so. Don

16:01 peter speaks 12:25 first question (to reid) how about we skip the 17-minute intros and give that time to hearing more peter? thanks!

Claiming that inequality is advanced is hilarious, everyone has cheap clothing, food, electronics, water, housing(not the best but usually not bad), education, internet(the big one). Wealth unimaginable to everyone 100 years ago is now available to all.

And therefore, for the sake of humanity and immortality, according to the Ancient Chinese Secret Wisdom Tradition, what are the five kinds of richest, most powerful knowledge, and wisdom that every individual could and should possess? altc, Paideia Academy-Esoteric Society

Peter Thiel it is clearly the case that Food, Medicine, and Shelter (land-use-and-zoning as Thiel says) need to be regulated, as their demand is likely to become inelastic fast in certain conditions that are probabilistically more prevalent. Land-use and Zoning ... how do you propose we fix this?

Not too many coal miners on LinkedIn I guess.

“Legitimate news organizations are called fake news” 😂 really now? I wonder what Reid thinks about “peaceful protesters”

Great choice for moderator.

How come I'm not surprised at all that Reid referenced gamergate as something horrible...

8:12 vantastic

Reid Hoffman very disappointing

Imagine believing gamer gate

Make Australia strong :)

This moderator takes every opportunity to hear himself talk at length. Bud, its not about you.

Both studied philosophy. This is indicative in their precise use of language yet boring cadence.

Polarization, if driven by economics, is entirely a bunch of regulation and spending policies put forth mostly by Democrats. 45% of GDP spent in government. That’s a lot - a whole lot of deadweight.

Hoffman offers-same old - same old ,a bore .

Far too short for deep conversations like this. Things were just getting started, the end felt rushed and unnatural. I'd say shoot for 2 hours minimum. Very disappointed in Mr. Thiel on the topic of free speech when hate speech briefly came up. His breathless virtue signalling about not defending hate speech as if it is a crime shows how spineless people in leadership roles have become. You don't have to agree with the hate speech to stand in defense of free speech. After all it's the worst most uncomfortable speech that needs protection, not comfortable speech everyone can accept. If you outlaw hate speech you break the protections freedom of speech grants all of us and it'll then only be a matter of time before government decides speech against a political party or against a policy, or against some other issue important to those in power is hate speech. Defend all speech, even hate speech, by staunchly standing up for and insisting on freedom of all speech any time the topic comes up. Having to listen to the occasional obnoxious hate-monger is a small price to pay to remain free. Allow the public square to ridicule them no need to make any laws against any kind of speech. Remain spineless and virtue signal every time it comes up and it won't be long before laws begin to change.

Reid Hoffman does nit know what Gamer gate is

Why not just say "diversity of ideas" ? What's with all this race and sexuality stuff? Do black people and gay ppl think differently because they're black or gay? Is being gay or black a different kind of human experience that requires us to take it into consideration when we have an interlectual discussion? And if it is, shouldn't we start investigating the uniqu way these people experience reality? maybe they have super powers.

Presaged the tech companies rigging 2020.

Reid is so horribly boring and incoherent. He's wasting Peter's time

They take it for granted that everyone knows who they are and what they have accomplished and they don't give any background information on the subjects being discussed with you.

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Really boring and uninteresting talk. The moderator goes to some length to block every interesting tangent Peter Thiel forks off. And there is hardly any debate. Yet these two guys could hardly be more opposite.

both Peter Thiel and Reid Hoffman SUPPORT BITCOIN

Peter you dodged the question about hate speech. Hate speech is what offends Liberals. If it offends Reps Liberals media (95% of all media) doesnt categorise it as hate speech.. The same as antisemitism - it is not what is insulting J e w s not being based on facts but what they subjectively consider forbidden to say. BTW you dont even can use the word - because it is cesored. So hate speech is not the problem, the problem is control over objectivity of these who censor free speech and limits it more than it can be tolerated. US constitutaion doesnt know idea of hate speech. So in terms of being American what is the basis to censor anybody in US internet? What true american way, legal way? Isnt censorship the way to ignore constitution? USA is simply not american anymore.

The only source of order is anarchy.

Peter Theil is a two-dimensional walking talking advertisement for continued neo-liberal austerity

dude's accent is too much

The ending sums it up. Peter has had his argument thought out in his head for over a decade and has been advocating for it. He knows his position. All I hear from Reid are questions about "the true nature of reality" and getting to the bottom of true and false. Peter has the clearly defined viewpoint. The left has to decide where it stands.