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Caribbean Citizenship vs. Turkey Citizenship by Investment 

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@libertarianspirit
@libertarianspirit Год назад
As a russian citizen, it looks to me that Turkey is more resilient to pressure from the west than Carribean. So unlike Carribeans, Turkey's citizenship by investment program stays open to Russians and Iranians. So it's definitely on my list, but I'm short of available money due to market crash.
@Hellodumbbitchs
@Hellodumbbitchs Год назад
good luck with ur current situations
@serious_nigga
@serious_nigga Год назад
I hope it works out for you bratan💪🏾💪🏾 good luck
@hititorquitit2990
@hititorquitit2990 Год назад
I'm an American and sorry about the crash affecting you. Maybe someday we will have a drink in Turkey.
@alaskanwhiskey
@alaskanwhiskey Год назад
@@hititorquitit2990 we are close to a crash also LOL. That's why I left two years ago. This is world wide buddy.
@jimbell122
@jimbell122 Год назад
Much bigger country
@internationaljohngalt5870
@internationaljohngalt5870 Год назад
Living in Turkey is insane value for money. If you earn in USD, your money goes literally 5-10X further than living in the west. Inflation arbitrage.
@doramason
@doramason Год назад
try buying a car ;)
@Thomas_Hardy.
@Thomas_Hardy. Год назад
Turkey is a huge country with a strong position. Its citizenship has a more sustantial presence. It offers very interesting real estate and stock market investment options. You can actually live there if you choose. I wish more countries like Turkey offered a CBI. Malaysia and Mexico would be examples I would wish opened CBI.
@thedcrypted
@thedcrypted Год назад
Turkey is the best cbi simply because Turkey has the power not to be bullied by the Cuna countries. In my opinion it should be the first cbi you do and then add a Caribbean passport second.
@lerryperry
@lerryperry Год назад
What if you have a weak passport that cannot even get you into Europe? You probably would want Caribbean first then Turkiye.
@Thomas_Hardy.
@Thomas_Hardy. Год назад
@@lerryperry Europe looking very questionable these days. Not sure I would want to go there.
@cagr7605
@cagr7605 Год назад
Are you kidding me with this question? Turkish citizens are trying to flee to Europe&US and yet Turkish citizenship by investment seems attractive to foreigners? Guys,be smart and choose Caribbeans 100% . If current gov't wins Lira will go to the toilet and if opposition wins whole investment program will definitely end,it is no question. Besides,Turkish citizens have their visa applications denied just because they have this passport,rejections went up to 25%. You will still have troubles with visas. And there are unofficially 15 million refugees (opposition estimate) getting citizenship slowly so they can vote for the current gov't to stay in power. Don't waste your money,go to the Caribbeans. They're safe,with stronger passport and you can travel within EU visa free.
@caronridge6912
@caronridge6912 Год назад
Many of the international banks and reliable brokers refuse to open accounts for those Island CBI citizenships unless you also give them a "real passport" (their words)... And they insist on using your TaxID for that "real" passport to send all your annual financial info to CRS. So Turkey is WAY better unless you've no meaningful wealth or investments. This choice was an easy one for me and others I know who fled the high-tax west.
@caronridge6912
@caronridge6912 Год назад
@@grant5059 I'm in east asia, I've never lived in Turkiye because I don't know the language and my language (english) is not spoken much over there. Sadly I can only speak one language. Where I live now, almost everyone can speak english as the majority are trilingual. See, East Asians are the smartest ppl on earth, on average. But of course there's still idiots everywhere, especially in politics.
@2masterdingdong
@2masterdingdong 5 месяцев назад
You are amazing ... I've been to Carribbeans and St. kitts and Nevis and the land is beautiful, but the public facilities are poor. Turkiye is like Heaven and not just a gateway between EU and Asia, but a gateway to the World.
@attanaqeeb
@attanaqeeb Год назад
For me it’s as simple as this. If your core objective is free traveling in Europe , may be Caribbean is better but for settling & for everything else Turkiye is the best option. See many comments about currency devaluation in Turkiye. I bought few properties in 2021 and despite significant devaluation today i have made money in US$ terms on those properties. Let alone the rent I am collecting in my Turkiye dollar account. And by the way, the citizenship came free because of these investments unlike Caribbean where you need to write off at least US $ 100,000 .
@grant5059
@grant5059 Год назад
Wow. This is so interesting. I'm considering investing in real estate in Turkiye in order to obtain a Turkish passport. Was the process very simple? What were the costs? Which company did you use? What were the property costs (not the cost of the property)? Grateful if you could share any information. Thank you for any help that you can provide.
@horeabaila9278
@horeabaila9278 Год назад
Very interesting presentation, however you left out one very important aspect: Healthcare. I don't know much about the quality of health care in Caribbean but I know that Turkey's health care programs are very affordable and extremely good quality.
@thomasmaresh5264
@thomasmaresh5264 Год назад
How many U.S. docs got their medical diploma in the Caribbean (due to the limited 300 med school cartel in the U.S?) How many from Turkey? That should help you measure that factor (assuming you're not interested in medical evacuation insurance. )
@Just_passing_through23
@Just_passing_through23 Год назад
Turkey is the 3rd biggest medical tourism countries in the world, and their hospitals are state of the art… only problem is like going to most all countries that don’t speak English… they don’t all speak English 😬 but if you go to international hospitals you’re good 😉 And it’s cheap as chips compared to US
@DiePatriotin-Arisch
@DiePatriotin-Arisch Год назад
As a german born and rised up in turkey, although it is political not the best, this is my home and i love it.
@DiePatriotin-Arisch
@DiePatriotin-Arisch Год назад
@@thealexsar7964 where are you ethnically from?
@jpytp5820
@jpytp5820 Год назад
Turkey is a real and powerful country, with industry and tourism. If you already have a decent passport its a much better option. I believe it has potential to be in the top in some years
@hititorquitit2990
@hititorquitit2990 Год назад
My main concern is how they feel about Americans though.
@marcietownsend3635
@marcietownsend3635 Год назад
@@hititorquitit2990 They're happy to have your money invested in their economy. Tell people you're Canadian if they ask.
@hititorquitit2990
@hititorquitit2990 Год назад
@@marcietownsend3635 Cool. Thanks!
@thomasmaresh5264
@thomasmaresh5264 Год назад
@@marcietownsend3635 I've heard that advice my entire world-wide tourist life......
@thomasmaresh5264
@thomasmaresh5264 Год назад
@@marcietownsend3635 E.g., hollywood movie Argo, a historic and true life-and-death story.
@jhasemi
@jhasemi Год назад
Many of my friends ha retired in Turkey and they love it.
@ElJefe1986
@ElJefe1986 Год назад
I'm still going with the Caribbean 💯
@Rainy_Day12234
@Rainy_Day12234 Год назад
Turkish people are very nice and open, there are many beaches and beautiful blue seas, large vibrant cities, close to many other countries…etc
@thomasmaresh5264
@thomasmaresh5264 Год назад
This is the start of a good debate: Caribbean against Turkey. I love Cancun and Aruba. I never have been to Turkey (or Greece or the Eastern Mediterranean--except Alexandria Egypt which frankly is like a frozen time-capsule of nothingness.) I hear good things about Turkey, about Istanbul, and about Turkish Airlines. I do remember that there was a terrorist event at IST airport about five years ago, which is why I lost interest for a while. Also, it seems to me that the beaches in Eastern Europe/Mediterranean are for Europeans et al. who can't afford to fly to the very nice beaches in the Caribbean. Anyway, it's a starting point, and Turkey is on my to-do list. As far as enjoying the culture and lifestyle there, in addition to passport considerations.
@redx11x
@redx11x Год назад
Don't live in fear. Your exact time and place of death is already determined.
@Jazzgin
@Jazzgin Год назад
Well that’s interesting. There was a terrorist attack in Istanbul which made people think twice or three, four, fifty times. Terrorist attacks happen virtually anywhere on the planet earth like Paris, Chicago, Toronto and people never think twice about these places. People are somehow keener on sticking that label on Turkey rather than others above. Since this is a weirdly widespread pattern of perception and behavior, people doing that just don’t stop and think “hey yeah, this is weird, am i being a little but racist or xenophobic, maybe?”
@ashjcoronado
@ashjcoronado 5 месяцев назад
I will marry a Turk and I’m planning to apply for Turkish citizenship sometime down the road, good compliment to my Mexican passport.
@caronridge6912
@caronridge6912 Год назад
What about the international banks and brokers NOT opening accounts for those Island CBI citizenships, unless it's you're place of birth. Mustn't you also show those financial institutions your "real passport" (their words)... and they'll insist on using your TaxID from your "real citizenship" country for reporting your annual financial info to CRS. So Turkey is better because it being a "real country", most banks/brokers abroad do accept you as only Turkish, right?
@ladlem3
@ladlem3 Год назад
Residence permits work great if you're from a Caribbean state. Without them - yeah, you have problems.
@UNC3345
@UNC3345 4 месяца назад
You guys need to consider that if you have any sons as a Turkish citizen, they'd have to do military service or pay their way out.
@globalreggaepromotio
@globalreggaepromotio 2 месяца назад
There are exceptions
@sw8398
@sw8398 Год назад
Turkiye, çok Guzel, Ama, be careful investing, also aside from US Lire appreciation, property has gone loco, for example, a flat in Fethiye which was 700K lire last year, now 2 million
@namalanoi4030
@namalanoi4030 Год назад
after somedays buying property will be luxury for turkish people
@namalanoi4030
@namalanoi4030 Год назад
Get a 600k loan in other country, buy 1 Caribbean + 400k turkish property with passport, after 3 years sell everything and clear the bank loan. Another thing, if someone do some bad crime or EU/USA give pressure Caribbean will cancel ur citizenship,latest example is Cyprus,21 passport cancelled. Who will give pressure to Turkiye?
@jazztheglass6139
@jazztheglass6139 Год назад
Turkey has the worst inflation rate in the hemisphere, that's never going to change
@uhrologe2596
@uhrologe2596 Год назад
Official "Turkiye" now.
@adilcinar4697
@adilcinar4697 Год назад
Caribbien...dont think about it..100% Cause of AB,Usa,Avustralia and Newzealand... with Turkish passport, you go other countries so hard.... It is weak passport
@mervynmontague1811
@mervynmontague1811 Год назад
Interesting and informative 🇯🇲
@erdemulubas
@erdemulubas Год назад
As a Turkish citizen im shocked when i read the comments about Turkey -both positive and negative- and i became %100 sure that you can not have a good idea about a country without living there a couple of years. Which made me even more sad because im also researching other countries and most probably im also judging them wrong
@510wn
@510wn Год назад
Geopolitical risk with turkey.
@wigglyk2796
@wigglyk2796 Год назад
People really need to think about Turkey's currency Lira. It has depreciated quite a lot over the past few years. All your investments will be worth a lot less in Turkey as their currency keeps depreciating, not to mention a far weaker passport.
@KevinBanks512
@KevinBanks512 Год назад
nobody invests in lira and apartments are, in fact, quoted in dollars in istanbul.
@wigglyk2796
@wigglyk2796 Год назад
@@KevinBanks512 Do local banks allow you to open dollar accounts?
@KevinBanks512
@KevinBanks512 Год назад
@@wigglyk2796 of course, in a matter of seconds from any online banking
@jhasemi
@jhasemi Год назад
Lira is in free fall.
@attanaqeeb
@attanaqeeb Год назад
I invested in Turkey, even though the lira has dropped significantly, I gained in Dollar terms. I have openers US$ account and collects all my rents there.
@kennethroth6757
@kennethroth6757 Год назад
I'd say turkey its not in the hurricane zones
@aricanaan1266
@aricanaan1266 Год назад
Wondering how many people got the “You’re gonna need a bigger boat” reference.
@blbreptiles4126
@blbreptiles4126 Год назад
Could you do a video on military service? I'd like to get a citizenship without getting drafted in case of a war😂
@caronridge6912
@caronridge6912 Год назад
... then turkish passport isn't for you unless you're over age 50. Also, consider where the nukes will fly. The US did a very intensive analysis of that. The UK is worst with 99% chance of 100% obliteration. The US is second worst and also Russia, China and anything near all them top the list for dying instant or slowly.
@asiaticonaeuropa
@asiaticonaeuropa 2 месяца назад
turkish citizenship + Golden visa (Portugal/greece/hungary....) => best combination in term of price and lifestyle.
@micomarinas2753
@micomarinas2753 Год назад
andrew what is your opinion about the speech of the president of suriname planning to have a citizenship by investment program?
@nooralansare358
@nooralansare358 Год назад
My life dream is to get Suriname passport
@doodlegassum6959
@doodlegassum6959 Год назад
My question, (a bit off topic) as you pointed out, most Carribbean flights pass through USA or Canada. Is possible to transit through the USA/Canada unjabbed as a tourist?
@Thomas_Hardy.
@Thomas_Hardy. Год назад
USA is not a transit country. Everyone that lands at a USA airport goes through full customs and immigration and need jabs (not sure canada). There are flights from panama and from cancun directly to Carribbean islands. Mexico doesnt require jabs.
@everything4352
@everything4352 Год назад
least investment country or easiest investment country
@rogerphillips7270
@rogerphillips7270 Год назад
Turkey is an Islamic country. Something else to bear in mind
@c123ray
@c123ray Год назад
Turkiye doesn't have a national religion. It's true many people practice Islam. Howver, other religions are reportedly practiced and welcome there.
@mz4987
@mz4987 Год назад
Nothing wrong with that. Turkey doesn’t need Islamophobes.
@Doki_LP
@Doki_LP Год назад
Turkey is secular to your information lmfao
@grant5059
@grant5059 Год назад
@@c123ray Yes, that’s very true. No Christians or Jews have any problems practicing their religion in Turkiye.
@namalanoi4030
@namalanoi4030 Год назад
Guys ,how about $500k in bank deposit ?? after 3 years will anyone loss money?
@grant5059
@grant5059 Год назад
I'm also wondering? I'd also like to know what is the average bank interest rate in Turkey? And which are the better Turkish banks to use?
@hirenshukla1662
@hirenshukla1662 Год назад
Carribean Island country is Joke. Turkey is real country with real economy.. There is no comparison between them. unless you are doing some highly criminal things
@fjtpersian6566
@fjtpersian6566 3 месяца назад
Ignorant,I have a barbados passport the country has a higher hdi and gdp per capita than Turkey.
@erencanayhan8514
@erencanayhan8514 Месяц назад
​@@fjtpersian6566because it has more money loundering in its borders
@juggernautgrant
@juggernautgrant Год назад
How about expatriate and become a state national
@grant5059
@grant5059 Год назад
What do you mean or what are you trying to say?
@nooralansare358
@nooralansare358 Год назад
Is it expected that the Caribbean countries that have citizenship by investment programs lose the advantage of accessing the Schengen countries without a visa, as happened with Vanuatu? And when will the European Commission re-activate the visa exemption agreement between EU and Vanuatu again?
@achrafsarajevo9856
@achrafsarajevo9856 Год назад
3 february
@nooralansare358
@nooralansare358 Год назад
@@achrafsarajevo9856 excuse me but I didn't get you. What do you mean by third February 2023 ??
@eldan23
@eldan23 Год назад
Man, Lira is down how much this year?? Be serious..
@Tomsonx232
@Tomsonx232 Год назад
Doesn't Turkey require military service?
@2masterdingdong
@2masterdingdong 5 месяцев назад
good Question and l checked that up : Military Service Obligation: Turkish male citizens are obliged to perform their military service according to Turkish law. Foreigners who become Turkish citizens are also subject to this obligation. However, there are exceptions: Immigrants not recognized by law and foreigners becoming Turkish citizens perform their military service at the age they are on the date of naturalization, similar to other privates of the same age. Those of Turkish origin who are citizens of another country are exempted from military service when they become Turkish citizens if they are over twenty-two years old
@askerzeynal8638
@askerzeynal8638 Год назад
NO TURKEY. YES TURKİYE.
@muhammadnaveedali4581
@muhammadnaveedali4581 Год назад
Türkiye 🇹🇷 is the best option for citizenship
@grant5059
@grant5059 Год назад
Wow. Did you do it? I would like to know more.. thanks
@PhilippKlinkner
@PhilippKlinkner Год назад
Thoughts on Northern Cyprus (Turkey)? They are building there.
@thomasmaresh5264
@thomasmaresh5264 Год назад
Yeah, parts of Europe sadly are weighted down with historical baggage. EU Cyprus is well known to be an EU haven for disreputable businessmen. While Turkey and Istanbul might have excellent capitlist prospects; a good passport analyis would look at the Cyprus/EU/Turkey historical baggage.
@globalreggaepromotio
@globalreggaepromotio 2 месяца назад
I h a ve both one by birthone by naturalization
@sirluciussquigglesworthlll6503
👍
@chrysoulaskitchen6566
@chrysoulaskitchen6566 Год назад
🤣😂
@dimitris7368
@dimitris7368 Год назад
Mate, you lost me after this video. Unbelievable ridiculous and unreliable to even suggest turkish citizenship... It shows that you really have a very superficial knowledge of what you re talking about. Turkey is an authoritative, islamic regime where you can easily lose your freedom and has a rich record of human rights violations, just to mention a couple of drawbacks.
@thomasmaresh5264
@thomasmaresh5264 Год назад
Yeah, Turkey is like a poor cousin to Europe, trying to get into modern EU with its 8th century culture. Turkey is big with a big airline and can't be ignored. Just so weird.
@Sarah-iv5tu
@Sarah-iv5tu Год назад
On the positive side turkey won’t extradite their own citizens
@namalanoi4030
@namalanoi4030 Год назад
@@Sarah-iv5tu that power Turkiye have.
@LoveClassicMusic0205
@LoveClassicMusic0205 Год назад
It might be the only option if you're from Russia or Belarus now that the Caribbean countries have stopped processing applications from those countries. It could be a stepping stone to a better passport in the future. You also don't necessarily have to live there, but instead use the Turkish passport to get a residence permit elsewhere.
@VainakhQuranites
@VainakhQuranites Год назад
It’s not any more “authoritarian” than Russia.
@BetterYet
@BetterYet Год назад
I have issues with Turkey. They are a political loose canon. I wouldn't be surprised if they get tossed out of the EU and NATO soon. They have rampant inflation and are influenced too much by Russia. More radical forms of Islam are on the rise. Not my first choice.
@KevinBanks512
@KevinBanks512 Год назад
bro EU and NATO can't live without Turkey. extremely resilient and effective army. getting rid of Turkey would be an utterly stupid and dangerous move, they are literally game changers on the ground with their drones and they showed high efficiency in their operations in Syria, Armenia, Libya, etc. Their relative independence (they can talk to both Ukraine and Russia, to both Iran and Israel) is actually an asset for people trying to escape the influence of big players. No one wants to trust a vassal state of the West nor Russia. Think long term, look at their pyramid of ages, etc. On the short term it's unstable but still, 10 years from now it will be a whole different story.
@pongkazsarker6121
@pongkazsarker6121 Год назад
Exactly, you're right. I don't like this fanatics people and Turkish have violent ideology too. I received my Saint kitts and Nevis passport and travel UK, EU without any harassment.
@thomasmaresh5264
@thomasmaresh5264 Год назад
@@pongkazsarker6121 Yeah the biggest factor is the power of the passport. So many things go into that factor and change over time.
@oregon9354
@oregon9354 Год назад
Turkey is not in the EU and never was but other than that I agree
@VainakhQuranites
@VainakhQuranites Год назад
Turkey is not in the EU. Erdogan is a Turkish Nationalist more than an Islamist.
@modern.mumukshu
@modern.mumukshu Год назад
not many will buy a radically Islamic Nations's passport.
@jj-gz9xd
@jj-gz9xd Год назад
What are you talking about
@JN-wr9he
@JN-wr9he Год назад
Coming from a radical islamophobe apparently
@traceyparkertravel-gaymexi8534
You can fly from Mexico to the Carribean using Copa Airlines through Panama City.
@Thomas_Hardy.
@Thomas_Hardy. Год назад
A flight from Mexico to the carribean via panama costs more than a coach flight to Europe . Turkish airlines fly everywhere in the world at amazing fares. Its a western asia hub.
@caronridge6912
@caronridge6912 Год назад
@@Thomas_Hardy. IST is also a european hub. The city that straddles two continents. Cannot be beat for air connections & convienience. Plus their new airport rocks, as does their national carrier. Forget some backwater island whose "passport" many international banks brokers and residency visa won't accept unless your place-of-birth is also that little island. They're a gimmick. Exception: real country like Cayman, Bermuda, Bahamas.
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