Goddammit as a chief fan I'm almost legally obligated to gate the raiders.. guys like Nassib and waller make me almost wanna root for them damn butt pirates lol
Am A Raider 2 Now ! 49er for life but this season also a Raider ! Am Bi/Pan and took me 13.3 years to come out...it is a struggle...he is a Brave and Free MTFKR !
Thats what I love about our team. Been a Raider bred since i was a kid but started paying attention to the game 10 years ago. We have always been the underdogs but this year were stronger then ever and i know we can make it farther. #raider4life.
@@briannaoutie2600 I've been clowned on since Elementary school lol. Been a fan since 1996 when I got my first Starter jacket and watching Raiders football before I even understood football. But I dont give a damn. I love my Raiders. I even got it tatted so ima raider til I die... even in the afterlife lol
Carl, you are an inspiration! As a 57 year old gay man, I just wish I had your courage at a younger age or even at this age. You are an awesome guy and player. Good job dude!
The team is genuinely tight. Waller does a great job with interviews. Appreciated Nassib doing this interview. Didn't realize he only recently (4y ago) realized he was gay. Glad to hear he's doing well. He's also balling on the field so far.
Max Crosby and Josh Jacobs are awesome too. They have heartwarming life stories.I'm a life long Raider Fan and the amount of family that I've gained is insane. Every fan I've met treated me like family and it wasn't hard to show it back in return. RN4L. Raidernation for life!!
I’m so impressed with the honesty and realness of Carl. We all have issues and I learned things, to build confidence in myself by keeping the agreements I make with myself. I’m a retired small business owner, wish I’d heard this before. Would have saved me from a bunch of stress caused health issues. Thanks so much Carl. Great pod, I subbed and will definitely listen to every one. Go Raiders!!
I thought Carl did well and am glad he gave the community some more insight into his background, since he changed the view of football for so many in the community. Growing up gay, I was scared of the football team in school, hopefully now the next generation won't be. It would have been great to hear how he came out to his family because so many people struggle with this, maybe provide examples or stories, even if he wasn't ready to give "advice". His colleague Darren Waller had great questions as well, Carl was right - very articulate.
when people say, "who cares?" I DO. I'm transgender and bisexual and work at my tribe's casino. I know nothing about football or NFL because there were stereotypical jocks who bullied me out of even trying out for football because I was born a female (now identify as male). It never appealed to me until now. We are allowed to wear NFL jerseys to work every Sunday through Feb and even though I know hardly anything about football, I'm going to wear NASSIB #94 with pride. For the first time ever, I now have a team and favorite player to root for. Go Raiders!
@@camdavis2992 It’s about being represented. Seeing that somebody “like” you has a respected place in somewhere like the NFL and is successful, shows people that they belong. In addition, they are cheering for him because they respect him for the risk he took in regards to backlash from his team, players, and the fans, in order to be true to himself. An example that might make more sense to you, is cheering for athletes from your hometown, especially if it’s a smaller town. I guess there’s not really any “real” reason you should cheer for them in particular over other guys, but you do because they are “like” you and are showing on a national stage that people “like” you and them, that come from that hometown, can succeed just like any other American.
I think guys like carl are wuts gonna help us get to a point where being gay and coming out isn't as big of deal and the more we normalize LGBTQ communities the easier it will be to actually be who u are
Never going to happen. In fact, things will get worse in the years to come. There are three things that will never go away and they are all getting stronger. Ignorance, culture, and religion along with the bible. Never going to happen
Forever proud of you my brother. Seeing this interview a little late but just so you know, any time would’ve been a great time for you to share your heart. Go on with your bad self stretch! #RaiderNation
I’m torn because I’m a Chiefs fan but I’m also transgender so I love that his teammates are so accepting and chill about everything and all the deep conversations you wouldn’t expect from athletes. This whole thing was really cool. Subscribed..damnit
i'm a chargers fan but i'm impressed at how open nassib was during this interview, coming out isn't always easy and i honestly can't imagine coming out in a sports fanbase (which are mostly dominated by cishet and sometimes conservative fans) but i'm glad he did, he might not have done it to break any barriers, but he did break them and hopefully this shows kids (and adults) that the LGBTQ+ community and sports aren't mutually exclusive. good game tonight y'all.
Carl whether you want to or not you probably saved more than one Young person's life and countless others to find The Bravery within themselves to be who they truly are. The same goes for Waller, Crosby, Jacobs and many more. I have been so impressed with the Raiders this year and not just about football but about being exemplary in life. Now with all that said, I've been a Raider fan for 55 years so, "Just win baby!"
Vulnerability is true strength. Only in a state of vulnerability do you open yourself to truly experience life and adds more durability while we strive to push our limits. Beautiful collective of minds you guys are.
Always love these pods, hearing other peoples outlook on life has always been helpful. I like how Carl focuses on the positive in life , that how I’ve been trying to live. So much negativity in the world today and even negative people that you have to be your own support with positivity.
Amazing. Listening to Carl work his way through this was so real..... kudos and thank you. I also didn't think I could like D Wall any more, but he is much deeper than I gave him credit for.... I've heard his story so many times it's easy to think he is his story. Waller is so much more and truly wise beyond his years.
Who cares? Obviously they do or why feel the need to be dismissive. This is a great antidote for anyone feeling poorly or negative, it's a positive affirmation for life. Anyone can make better choices for themselves than whatever they come from or are trying to survive, or, like Carl, can appreciate what you have & came from & pay that positivity forward. Who cares? Lots of us do.
@@bphesse It's not the point, real or not Batman is my hero. You understand it's very subjective who your hero is, for others its someone who serves in the military etc.. Batman is not only my hero, but he is a SUPERHERO. LONG LIVE THE CAPE CRUSADER
Great interview. Thanks for your vulnerability and honesty, Carl. And great points on self-care, fellas. Shame about the sound settings, though. Especially for the person being interviewed as they keep facing off-axis to answer the interviewers. Perhaps take the microphone off of the cardioid setting? Cheers.
Loved having Darren here on the Ravens, but Baltimore and someone prone to addiction are just a bad mix. So happy to see him doing great. He & Carl just seem like legit great dudes
I'm glad Carl decided to come out. It means a lot not just to athletes, but to fans, too, who've heard lots of homophobic comments in the stands through the years, too.
When he said he wanted someone and he’s got that now and said he met a guy and he’s the best….he leaned forward seemingly to check his shoe…..also mentioned earlier in the interview during camp he kept tying his shoe because of anxiety! I hope that was just a coincidence and not sign that he’s anxious saying he’s happy
He was possibly slightly anxious sharing publicly he has a boyfriend. This is an extra step that can sometimes feel like a new coming out for some gay people, based on the possible reactions. It makes his gayness less "abstract," and he also knows it will invite media to find the bf's name etc (which they did).
And yet, there are those of us who have wanted someone since before he was even born, never hid who we were at a time when it could actually be dangerous and STILL haven't found anyone. I wonder why it was so simple and easy for him?
Eye Love Ya Carl Nassib ! Free Hugs and Massages and Kisses from Hawk Island aka Montreal ! Am a Raider now also ! Go Nassib go Raiders ! Took me 13.3 years to come out as bi/pan and only came out 7 years ago. EYE LOVE IT !
to the people who say "who cares" tell that to people who've been arguing that marriage is between 1 man and 1 woman, and now are fighting to discriminate against LGBTQ people for "religious" reasons.
It's not as simple as you make it out. For instance, I'm Catholic. I'm into dudes. I firmly believe with all my heart that marriage is a sacrament (one of seven sacraments) which is ordained by God and is reserved for a man and a woman. However, this does not mean that one cannot have a loving relationship with someone WITHOUT being married. To get around manmade laws and to have equality, this is where civil unions come into play. You have the protection of the law for your relationship as would straight people but without the sacrament of marriage. God's laws cannot be changed by people who simply want what they want because they are self centered. Of course, no one should be discriminated against. Plus if you read the New Testaments passages on same sex relations and translate it back into the ancient Hebrew, it does NOT mean people who legitimately love each other. For instance, when Paul condemned it, he was talking about Greeks who made same sex acts part of a religious ceremony. But to deny actual marriage to same sex couples because its only for a man and woman is not discriminatory. For instance, another sacrament is extreme unction which is the last rights for the dying. You wouldn't give those to a healthy young man like Carl, would you?
@@retroguy9494 you said, "I firmly believe with all my heart that marriage is a sacrament (one of seven sacraments) which is ordained by God and is reserved for a man and a woman." then YOU get married to the opposite sex, but you cannot force your Catholic views on everyone, and get married according to YOUR religion, that is you being self-centered. You also said, "But to deny actual marriage to same sex couples because its only for a man and woman is not discriminatory." Yes it is. Do you know what discriminatory means? Denying marriage for one group (same-sex couples) and giving marriage exclusively to another group (opposite-sex couples) is discriminatory AND self-centered. Because you are only thinking of YOUR own religion, your OWN beliefs, and your OWN morals, and nobody elses. That's self-centered and discriminatory.
@@MK-uw8qt I can see where you're going with this issue. You're basing it on on your own personal wants and desires only. And hating on those who don't share it. Okay, forget the fact that I'm Catholic. Forget that I believe marriage is a sacrament. In fact, forget me altogether as an individual or my individual opinion and let's look at the greater picture. There is only ONE mainstream religion that I know of that will actually perform a same sex marriage and that is the Presbyterian Church. And even there, only an elder is required to do it and NOT the actual minister. Other churches like the Episcopal will perform a ceremony but they don't call it a marriage. The bottom line is, that most religions around the world share the belief that actual marriage is a God-ordained, covenant relationship between a man and a woman. For Jews and Christians, it's in the Bible. Genesis 2:24 clearly sates “Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. ” For Christians, this was affirmed by Jesus. It's also in the Quran. Even in religions like Hindu, while same sex relationships are allowed and ancient writings depict them, same sex couples cannot marry. This is not about my own personal belief. It's something I never really questioned. Just like I never questioned why murder is wrong and against God's law. There is something people like you need to learn. It is that not everything in life can be equal. And the fact that some things are not does not mean it is discrimination. Remember, in the Declaration of Independence it says that we are endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights. The creator is God. God's law is the supreme law followed by natural law and then civil law. So if God says no marriage for people of the same sex, who are YOU or anyone else for that matter to go against God and Devine law? Which is why I said in order to give equal CIVIL protection for same sex couples there needs to be civil unions. Why is actual marriage so important to you as long as you have the same civil and legal protections through civil unions? The word 'marriage' is a religious one. So if you deliberately go against God's law to suit your own personal wants, what have you gained? You are sinning and only fooling yourself. Finally, you said 'then YOU get married to the opposite sex.' While I CAN in fact do that, since I'm into guys myself I would be committing a sin as well. Because I wouldn't love the woman in a romantic way and I would be using marriage for something other than its intended purpose. If I can accept all of this, why can't YOU?
@@retroguy9494 your argument is very hypocritical. You jumped in and responded to my comment saying ALL gay people should have a civil union, ignoring the desires and wishes of people who disagree with you based on YOUR religion. Not only is that selfish, it's hypocritical. The problem you have is you want to force your views on others. Because you disagree with same-sex marriage, you want to force other same-sex couples to not get married. That's tyranny. You're quoting scripture, but the fact you're not getting in YOUR head is some people don't follow the same religious teachings as you, some religions allow same-sex marriage AND some people may not follow a religion at all, and the problem is that not only do you want to follow a religion to restrict yourself you are forcing others to do the same, even if they disagree with you. That's very problematic. Not only that, there's even religions who DO allow same-sex marriage. Different religions believe in different things. You're saying it's Gods law, then YOU follow it, you can't force others to follow YOUR values, opinions, and beliefs. There is something that YOU need to learn. When you take one group of people and say they can't marry, and you allow one group to marry, you ARE discriminating. Who are YOU to not only say what God wants, but to FORCE your restrictive views on everyone who disagrees with YOU? YOU assume alot, you don't even know I'm gay, I could be a straight ally. Marriage is important for equality purposes. We live in a world that believes in different things, some people believe marriage is for secular, some religious, and some a continuum between the two. There's some religious churches who ALLOW same-sex couples to marry, that YOU are stopping to force others to believe as you do. Lastly you said, " I wouldn't love the woman in a romantic way and I would be using marriage for something other than its intended purpose. If I can accept all of this, why can't YOU?" because some people don't want to be relegated to 2nd class citizens where marriage is only for heterosexual couples, and same-sex couples have civil unions. It denies equality, equal protection of the law, and most importantly, if YOU want to restrict yourself and deny YOURSELF of marriage, FINE, but don't force YOUR restrictions on others who want to be free, and do not believe what you do! If YOU don't want to marry, or you're being told to not marry who YOU are attracted to, then don't marry them, but it's selfish of you to say no one of my sexual orientation can marry who they want.
@@retroguy9494 You jumped in and responded to my comment saying ALL same-sex couples should have a civil union, ignoring the desires and wishes of people who disagree with you based on YOUR religion. Not only is that selfish, it's hypocritical. The problem you have is you want to force your views on others. Because you disagree with same-sex marriage, you want to force other same-sex couples to not get married. That's tyranny. You're quoting scripture, but the fact you're not getting in YOUR head is some people don't follow the same religious teachings as you, some religions allow same-sex marriage AND some people may not follow a religion at all, and the problem is that not only do you want to follow a religion to restrict yourself you are forcing others to do the same, even if they disagree with you. That's very problematic. Not only that, there's even religions who DO allow same-sex marriage. Different religions believe in different things. You're saying it's Gods law, then YOU follow it, you can't force others to follow YOUR values, opinions, and beliefs. There is something that YOU need to learn. When you take one group of people and say they can't marry, and you allow one group to marry, you ARE discriminating. Who are YOU to not only say what God wants, but to FORCE your restrictive views on everyone who disagrees with YOU? YOU assume alot, you don't even know I'm gay, I could be a straight ally. Marriage is important for equality purposes. We live in a world that believes in different things, some people believe marriage is for secular, some religious, and some a continuum between the two. There's some religious churches who ALLOW same-sex couples to marry, that YOU are stopping to force others to believe as you do. Lastly you said, " I wouldn't love the woman in a romantic way and I would be using marriage for something other than its intended purpose. If I can accept all of this, why can't YOU?" because some people don't want to be relegated to 2nd class citizens where marriage is only for heterosexual couples, and same-sex couples have civil unions. It denies equality, equal protection of the law, and most importantly, if YOU want to restrict yourself and deny YOURSELF of marriage, FINE, but don't force YOUR restrictions on others who want to be free, and do not believe what you do! If YOU don't want to marry, or you're being told to not marry who YOU are attracted to, then don't marry them, but it's selfish of you to say no one of my sexual orientation can marry who they want.
Carl is extremely lucky. Gay kids are typically bullied, beat up, tormented, and end up with really low self-esteem. Many commit suicide. He was a late bloomer, so he was very naive about gay oppression; it seems this helped him. He’s also very lucky he “passed” for straight. It’s sad he ignores the oppression gay men face in this world. Our survival is always tied in with our ability to remain invisible, assimilate, and blend in.
First of all, those kids you speak of do not hide who they are the way Carl did. They were brave enough to be themselves. They are the ones who REALLY deserve the credit and adulation. Second, what the hell is 'passing' for straight? Are you suggesting that men who simply happen to be into other dudes actually look or act different than other guys or are SUPPOSED to look or act different from other guys? I was a late bloomer too and yet, I was VERY oppressed. The only thing that helped HIM was hiding who he was into. And not saying it until he reached a point in his career where it could not hurt him.
Thank you Carl. hopefully others follow your lead soon. It's weird as a life-long 49ers fan to be also be rooting for the Raiders! Thank you Darren and Donny great job.
Is Ryan Nassib Carl's brother he is referring to? He said he had an older. brother who played in the League. Edit: just Googled this and answered my own question lol. Never knew that.
Also my man on the right just seemed to be talking at Carl the whole time instead of attentively listening and bouncing off of what the guest was saying followed by an awkward silence
Carl seems like a good dude - also he 'came out' the right way, Unlike Michael Sam, Carl kept quiet, made the NFL and had success - Carl proved that he was a player first. THEN Carl revealed himself to be gay - and all his teammates knew that Carl was a good guy and supported him Michael Sam got marketed as a 'Gay Football Player' - while Carl is a Football Player who is Gay. No Big Deal.
Waller do you get tired of people bringing up your addiction? That shit must be annoying! Every time they interview you they bring that shit up! Let’s go RAIDERS!!!! Get that 4-1 EASTLA RAIDER NATION!!!
Nice story man. And along the way you will get rejection from the gay community as well for 'acting' too straight or like 'straight' things. I speak from experience. Thanks for doing what you do.
HAH! You ain't kidding dude! I was too! Like 25/30 years ago. I was NEVER accepted by them. Which is probably why I ended up in my late 50's and all alone. But I can't help who I am. My voice is as deep as Carl's, I act like a guy and I'm into things like sports, cars, politics, etc.
If possible yall should think about a different production set. The questions were cool but yall got the guest in the middle of 2 hosts, makes for an awkward dynamic.
"I always thought I was great at everything...I still think I'm great at everything." Everything except humbleness and humility. Well, he sure is great at saying "UMMMMM" in just about every sentence, that's for sure!
I really appreciate more nuscline gay guys coming out I know it is really harder for them because the friend groups that they're in usually are not very homo-friendly a lot of times but it is important because when I was young I do thought that being gay comes with a 'specific personality' being feminine and all a stereotype if you must cause that is the only representation I saw as a child when I got into high-school this kick-boxing fighter(He was also a student) asked me out and all I was thinking about was that he is one of those straight guys who just wants to F and then ditch you when their dream girl comes to the door it was not registered in my brain that a guy who is a states gold medalist kick-boxer who do not have any 'gay stereotype' can ever be gay so I kept on rejecting him again and again there is a lot on my part that I could've done better,I should've be more articulated with what I was thinking and I should just be open minded about people's emotions rather than just being a narrow minded kid but also in my defense I was feared that he would make fun of me like those typical movie plots cause I don't know any better turns out he actually really asked me out after college we talked and that he was a bit heart-broken when I rejected him because he wanted someone secure to talk about his actual feelings and about himself that he is not really able to talk about with his 'bros' at that time but he now have a boyfriend they went on a car-ride trip last week they seemed happy and athletic lol I'am happy for them honestly and I wish I could've been there when he actually needed someone rather than be scared and defensive I guess
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