Carl Trueman | The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self | Gospelbound 

I am a Muslim and I am here to learn more about this culture conversation from these Christian fellows. As they noted at the end, Christians should put down internal disagreements and deal with real big moral issues and support each other in this battle. I am coming from a tradition where we believe that not only should Christians stop fighting each other, all believers should stop fighting each other over small disagreements and focus on larger moral issues, help one another to strengthen their beliefs. Having said that, I am benefiting immensely from these discussions. Merry Christmas!

Great conversation! Devoured the book back in December, and am currently going through it a second time (slower) with a book group. On a side note, Carl Trueman should totally go on Ben Shapiro's show (Sunday Special). Someone please make that happen!

I started reading the book a few days ago and was hoping there would be this sort of interview online! This book is what I have been longing for and answers so many questions for me. It’s rocking my world and causing me to look at my family...how I think, what I do, how I talk to people. Thank you!

So thankful for you both. Such a great job modeling forgiveness and reconciliation! ❤️

Well done conversaion! Looking forward to the read. Thank you.

Great conversation guys. I just ordered to book and look forward to reading it.

40.40 he says how can you dismantle this ? You don't have to because it is just going to self-destruct.

Now it's incomprehensible and uncontested

The works of Adolf Schlatter (1852-1938) is worth looking into.

My favorite part is when the narrator says "I see the same gospel that turned the world upside down" and it overlays clips of insufferable Christian rock musicians in a rock band atmosphere with swooning fans having cathartic emotional orgasms. None of which have anything to do with that ancient Gospel hahahaha. Legendary.

The Christian parent is the group that suffers the most during this current world affairs when their children have become a modern self and parents are cast aside. The loneliness and feelings of a wasted life are these parents reality to their graves

interview e. michael jones.

For those on the other side of Christianity it’s not considered fast

Was Mitchell & Webb, not Hugh Laurie, but good stuff regardless.

Is gender identity part of the sexual revolution? It's put together in the LGBTQ acronym but it seems quite separate to me, though many people seem to get them confused.

I think people have missed another side affect of the rise of the modern self... pollution and greed. I recall watching a documentary from the 70s that connected the sexual revolution with the rise of consumerism and materialism and we all know where that has led us. Among other things the sexual revolution told society they were not only entitled to every feeling and every freedom but were also entitled to having one of every modern convenience and trapping of wealth. This rise of modern self has destroyed our internal morals as well as our outwardly physical world.

35:18 he doesn't know what he is talking about and could only come from a post War mindset of "look at all the treats in my every day life, capitalism is awesome". As the 19th and 20th century went on it looked increasingly likely capitalism would destroy itself. Just as the bankers and merchants over through feudalism, Marx was looking at who would overthrow capitalism. The mass of working men and women who were being torn from the land by the state imposing private property (yes, I said the state. Look up enclosure acts) and thrown into a miserable existence was who he chose. I wonder if he realizes that his statement at 22:06 is textbook Marxism, more specifically historical materialism. The technologies and means of how we work influences social relations. I have never even read anything besides the communist Manifesto and I know that. These two think they understand Marxism...

In terms of Christian unity it appears to me that Martin Luther really messed that up. Wouldn’t it have been better to try to change the Church from within rather than to atomize the whole institution?

While I appreciate the scholastic inquiry here, I can’t help but resist the implicit Hetero-normative presuppositions here. Just because something appears “natural” doesn’t mean it is. I’m not sure how one proceeds with your line of reasoning without in some way subjugating LGBTQIA folks. Im not sure what the “threat” is here. As much as the two of you would like to criticize modernity-this feels like the same old conservative song and dance: “modernity feels threatening” and then 30 years later said controversy has simply been normalized. (E.g. Brown Vs. Board of education.) so I guess I’m just skeptical of your notion that there are these non-changing touchstones in Christian thought that need to be upheld, this is seems patently false. Yours in good faith, the friendly atheist, Jon