Carmine Appice on Vinnie Vincent, "He's a great talent, but he's a troublemaker," Interview 2021 

Yep. Imagine if Bon Jovi released it in ~87/88.

I started listening to this a few months ago...pure gold!

Totally agree

Agree 100%!

I like how he doesn’t have a fake disingenuous laugh like Eddie

Eddie is pure cringe

Eddie usually does most of the talking.

Vinnie was definitely a talented song writer and guitarist. The lyrics to love kills are very good, you can tell he was a good lyricist as well

He should have stuck with those rock ballads, uptempo metal is not Vinnie’s comfort zone.

You don't want to dig too deep with Vinnie. Everybody's got a bitch with him. But you knew that going in. I m neutral on the subject. I hope he realizes he'd got a folloeing

@@markr.devereux3385 I know Vinnie probably has psychological problems but I'm still a fan. If anything it adds to his appeal.

Everyone can disagree with Vinnie, he can also screw everyone. He can afford to do it because his great talent will allow him to do it. His songwriting and guitar playing talents have always allowed him to get away with it, that's why he's like that.

Carmine was gearing up to do a full of album of doo-wop songs, but Billy Joel stole his idea.

His songs aren't that good. If they were, how come only a handful of people know about him.

@@whataboutrob442 Name me some bands you love and I’ll show you how many of their songs that I don’t know who the writer is.

Have You ever met Vinnie? I'm in Tennessee. I grew up in Rutherford County where He has/had His house . He's talented , He just keeps shooting Himself in the foot when it comes to business. He owns the rights to Eric Carr's makeup.

Maybe he has a tumor on his brain!

@@whataboutrob442 Some songs never get the recognition they deserve and other songs get the recognition they don't deserve lol Some of these songs did become kiss hit songs. He did minor hits with VVI and other artists sang his songs as well but not very familiar with how well they did

Underrated comment!

He’s like the Chuck Norris of martial arts films…

omg...lmaooooo

Ha ha, maybe...

He was all set to do a full album of doo-wop, but Billy Joel stole his idea.

@@dogslobbergardens6606 innocent man

@@michaelfrazia4569 yep. I was kidding, BTW. Just making fun of Carmine constantly claiming everyone else in music stole every idea from him.

That singer was Mark Slaughter

Carmine is an original member of VF. He's still in the Fudge.

Blue Murder's first album was great. But, for whatever reason, it didn't sell.

@@scottdunn2178 🤣😂

Did he lose two of his marbles?

I think those marbles are just tucked back up in His tummy. And I do believe I ment to type lost in their.... Long time ago though. 🤣

😂😂😂

You have a very cruel and funny sense of humor

And you know Vinnie Vincent is wearing granny panties under those pants suits.

A rumor has been flying around that he has been taking estrogen and other such feminizing drugs. By the looks of him - the rumors might just be true.

@@scottdunn2178 I think he/she's either intersex or was just flat out a girl at birth and is going back to living as a girl.

"The Parting" by FOOL OF FATE

@@fullinbloom Thanks for answering. I enjoy your clips.

@@meatwad1 Thanks for listening.

@@fullinbloom Thanks for giving me something to listen to.

Weird how Carmine played with like half the people in rock'n'roll for decades and none of the bands/line-ups he was in could stay together. Definitely everyone else's fault... just ask him.

Why?

@@lrn_news9171 Carmine has been in about a thousand bands. Somehow him leaving or being fired is never his fault. Any band that he's in that doesn't succeed is never his fault

@@allsystemsgo8678 Not very familiar with him tbh I know he was in King Kobra and blue murder or something and that's about it.

@@allsystemsgo8678 In my case I have a similar story. Every project I've started that didn't work out wasn't my fault but that's like 3 projects so it's not a big number lol

@@allsystemsgo8678 He's a journeyman like Tommy Aldridge. It doesn't mean he's a troublemaker.

I used to play in a band with someone who is that type of guy. Only this person plays guitar. I was his bass player.

There in bar/lounges everywhere.

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The truly incredible talent of playing real drums and making them sound exactly like a hastily-programmed drum machine. What a genius.

What and that's something to be proud about. While it was a huge hit for rod it also is what helped start all the rod is gay stuff. Great Band with Phil Chen on bass horrible song released at the epitome of disco. Kiss another disco band back then. I was floored to hear I was made for posing as a rock star.

It does.

More cow bell

Both from NYC

No.

Strange is one thing, but that isn’t an excuse to hurt others.

Sure. But vinnie has proven to be a conman, not very rock and roll.

@Donnell Okafor hugs from Canada my friend.

😂 I was just thinking that!

LMFAO 😂🤣😂🤣

CA worked with half the people in rock'n'roll over a period of decades and nothing he was in lasted. Definitely everyone else's fault, every time. Just ask him.

@@dogslobbergardens6606 He does have that kind of vibe doesn't he. Even during this interview you can kind of see that tries to make himself be the peacemaker share the pie kind of guy and I don't really buy that either. He is probably a better guy now than he was back then.

I heard him tell some guy in a suit he’d break his kneecaps. Real greaseball sh!t.

There's a sucker born every minute. Every election cycle, hundreds of thousands of people actually volunteer to give their own hard-earned money to political campaigns, FFS.

Four By Fate is the name of the band he's with.

Vinessa wasn’t as bad as you say.

Yes, & Peter Peters is their uncle.

Damn! Scorch!!!

Because they went on to have success without Victoria.

Writing Burning bridges about him didn't help

That Goran from yngwie? I love that guy. His voice is not that distinctive but he has good chops.

The record label gave them his contract

Penis

Even the term “guys” is stretching it...

The 80s were a strange time. SUPER homophobic... yet all the pop and rock stars looked like drag queens.

I like the theme song . It’s dark ! Would you happen to know the title ? I looked under fool of fate but can’t seem to find it . Thanks

@UCulyY-gey2Vjju9LhlQAHjw Dark🤣 The world ain't dark enough?? Fuck that pussy devil shit. Metal fans😂

As strange as Tim Curry was in The Rocky Horror Picture Show...I'd still pick Tim Curry to hang out with. Ain't no way in HADES I'd ever hang out with Vinnie Vincent. He's a true loser! And-If what Carmine Appice is saying here is true, then Vinnie's a thief, too!

Depends who you ask. Carmine Appice says it one way, Vinny Appice says it the other way. Which is odd considering they're brothers. I bet Thanksgiving dinner with their family is lots of fun.

Bonham cited Carmine as an influence actually

@@flyingburritobro68 Did I say anything about influences? Answer is no.

@@MikeySea676 No, but burrito brother's point does add perspective. Would EVH be expected to learn Lynch and DeMartini licks?

@@lanceraustin At a tribute show? Not if you have any class. You would at least expect them to know the form of the song, no? Which he didn't, Btw.

@@MikeySea676 - We get it. You hate Carmine. Noted.

Isn’t that Gene as well?

@@paulhaynes561 Gene has an ego that would dwarf the Statue of Liberty, but i don't think he had any delusions of grandeur where his music was concerned.

Gene will boast he’s “the richest rock star ever/the most laid rock star ever” as opposed to “the most talented rock star ever”- he is a massive egotist but not delusional.

I remember Paul Stanley saying in his book that Vinnie was a great talent, but he didn't know how to self-edit his songwriting.

TheJohnnyCotts - That's called, "Kisstory written by the victor."

I winced at that part. That's a vicious rumor to repeat, and I hope Carmine heard it from a highly reliable source.

It's at least plausible. Vinnie's first wife AnnMarie was murdered in 1998, after they'd divorced. Google pulled up multiple news stories mentioning that she was working as a part-time escort at the time.

But as far as players go in Kiss, Bruce Kulick will always be number 1 ! Bruce is the best by far !

@@Angelo-fo8de LOL you know Ace is the GOAT of KISS.

Not even close.

Just imagine that Kiss is 5 piece band with both Ace and Vinnie.. what would happened if those two together in a band?

Amen, no one is perfect and I am sure he fighting some inner demons and he seems like a very humble person and I wish him the best, Eric and Vinnie saved KISS.

Hi Vinnie! 😊

Vinny's drumming on mob rules is great

Why do all guitarists need "restraint"? Shit gets fucking boring after awhile. I like that he did what he wanted. Not everyone wants to be "Gary Moore" or Page

@@aliceflores812 Like I said, there was nothing to his solos but a bunch of garbage. Listen to Boyz Are Gonna Rock. The solo in it is just puke. Everything he did sounded the same

I don’t blame you. The $2 was better put getting a hot dog. LOL

THAT is funny. "I'm super rock star guy, my signature is worth money!" OK how much? "Two bucks."

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It's true that bulletboys were doing a few songs from King Kobra like "Kissin kitty", there's a King Kobra demo of that song with Marq Torien on vocals and Mick Swede on guitar. Perhaps Marq, Mick and Lonnie wrote that song and Carmine has nothing to do with it except play drums on it

@Donnie (guitar tech) Ian Paice has said Purple were influenced by Fudge when they first started but Paice hasn't said Carmine himself was an influence on his own playing. Paice was mainly influenced by the jazz greats.

@Donnie (guitar tech) I hear you- Carmine 's pedigree as a hard rock/heavy metal drummer who's been around isn't surpassed by many; he got kicked out of Ozzy's band because Sharon wanted a cut of the side projects he was doing (things he had built up before his tenure with Ozzy) and he was "too big" for a simple "drummer" by her rationale. Her exact words to him were "you need your own band"..She didn't like band members having tooooo much celebrity status. His impact on the genre will probably never be fully appreciated because he never had a long tenure in any larger than life band. As for VV he turned a brief tenure in KISS into a shit show-he could have probably rode that out for the rest of his life, not getting mega-rich maybe but living comfortably off it with a little effort. Instead he screwed a lot of people with cancelled gigs, signed guitars that were never shipped and a bunch of other stuff.

He loves to hear his own voice. "I replaced Tommy Aldridge in Ozzy's band because he had bad timing." -Carmine Appice. "Sharon thought I was too popular for the band and fired me and hire Tommy Aldridge." -also Carmine Appice. So they replaced him with the guy with the bad timing that he originally replaced?!?!?! Got it. I had the opportunity to meet him twice through a very famous L.A. studio drummer and I had/have ZERO interest. He doesn't impress me in the least.

@Donnie (guitar tech) when you are full of yourself and love to hear your own voice, all the stuff you named gets overlooked. Go look at Vinnie Colaiuta's discography and watch a video of him talk and be interviewed. Humble, nice guy with no ego. Carmine should take a lesson from his in that area.

Yep, that picture of KK is just cringe worthy with their teased up hair.

@@stevegrimm6936 Watch their music videos from that time at your own risk lmao 😖🤣

Carmine only played live with Ozzy. Never recorded an album.

@@MikeB-oo9bj I know. I didn't specify what he did with Ozzy. Should I?

@Dust Devil "weren't THAT bad" you're right bro. They weren't totally terrible lol I still have their first two albums. I used to listen a lot "Freakshow". Now I can't listen any of both. I always considered Bullet Boys a sub-par band like thousands of many others back in the day. Bands orchestrated by labels & producers not musicians. Who wants to listen a Van Halen wannabe? They had Ted Templeman but not an Eddie..Sweda it's a decent guitarist & Torien it's an screaming cat compared with the mighty Roth. That's the reason why they didn't succeed their first (and successful debut). "Freakshow" had a lot of potential but ruined by a TOO all over the top vocals IMHO.

I think you're thinking of Michael Angelo.

@@daviddogstar3307 thanks, that sounds right! So Michael Angelo stole the idea from Carmine lol.

Hibernated for 20 years and tried to make a comeback and couldn't play for shit.

Not quite sure he is in fact “blaming” anybody though…ya know? 🤷🏻‍♂️

Or NO merchandise. Didn't he once sell a boxed set or something? Charged an outrageous amount of money, and no one ever received it. And never refunded anyone.

Not according to him at 3:58…

@@lukeotron I swear I read that long ago in a Guitar magazine I owned? Everyone pronounces it as it looks rather than properly. I'm wrong I guess?

@@NameThatSong1 Carmine's brother Vinny, also an accomplished and sort-of-famous drummer, pronounces it the way you wrote it. Carmine has always pronounced it "apiece." Why, I do not know.

@@dogslobbergardens6606 I remember Vinnie was also in many bands/projects. Yes, he was not as famous as his brother. I imagine Carmine just got use to everyone pronouncing his last name wrong?

@@NameThatSong1 yep. Both brothers have been around the rock'n'roll block many times.

+1 King Poser.

I must have seen them on the same tour but in Springfield Mass They were corny as hell. Telling everyone to do the cobra WTF not cool at all. I always considered bands like King Cobra to be more of a joke than Spinal Tap sad thing was they were serious.