Carnegie Hall Trumpet Master Class: Mahler's Symphony No. 5 

Graeme Thies-Thompson thank you.

You can play this very beautiful. But what you and Mr. Tarkövi both miss is intention. At least to my ears playing this part beautiful, is not enough. There is a history behind it. When Mahler writes a funeral march he writes from personal experience. He lost 6 of his siblings while growing up and his father was abusive, his brother commited suicide at the age of 21 when Mahler was 25. So he knew pain. This has to be more existentialist. A mixture of solemnity and accustation at the same time. "Why fate are you so cruel!" And you can bet that it is absolutely no coincidence that it has the same rhythm as the opening of Beethoven's fifth. Which is also called a fate motif. So I'd encourage you to try to work a little bit more pain into it. Then it is more Mahler.

Thank you, it is very helpful. best,

Quotenwagnerianer- "existentialist"?

Ismael Brandão és português ou brasileiro?

It's called a compliment sandwich

Carnegie Hall but a Schilke mouthpiece?

@@allwinds3786 I believe Gabor plays a yamaha mouthpiece.

@@MrJellyton its a breslmair mouthpiece

​@@swaglord5909most likely, to fit the parameters of the rotary trumpet sound wave profile for the sound you want from that instrument. You could probably special order a Schilke to match a specific cup, drill, backbore, etc.I would love to own one like his, but that's a long term purchase for this rank amateur.

You think that's the trumpet? I disagree. I think you could swap the trumpets (not the M/P) and each player would sound 99% the same... (Give Wynton a crappy student Yamaha model and he'll still sound like Wynton!)

Although there are some subtle differences between piston and rotary vale trumpets for sure.... Just saying the player themselves have a bigger influence than the model of trumpet (and even the mouthpiece)

@@chriscoull1156 big disagree piston and rotary feel completely different to play and it will usually have an impact on tone color

@@maggoteater2290 Feel s different to the player yes I agree.... but try a 'Pepsi callange' as a listener.... and you'll find very marginal tone/ colour difference.

@@maggoteater2290 The two trumpet players in this clip have different sound and tones yes. What you are essentially saying is, that this difference is down to the differenc trumpets they are playing. I am saying that it is more to do with the player. Swap these trumpets around for these two players and they would pretty much sound the same....

Practice

Peyton Johnson lol

Ikr

You don't want to be teached by him he is one hell of a trumpet player but a bad teacher

Not so high, but yea, very good sound

***** it's a B, beautifull sound for such a note, but not that high

+Roy Dorssers an A on C trumpet

@@roydorssers1996 Actually an A

@@magiking96 That's not what he meant. He meant that the audio sucked.

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They aren't French horn keys. They are rotary valves.

It is just different, better designed for german music.

+Actual Pole German art of building valves called Zelinder Trompete or Konzert Trompete

Some/Most(?) rotary trumpets come with at least 2 keys like the ones you see on Gabor's trumpet. They're basically there for tuning purposes. Some have 3 or more like the one you see in the video. The keys basically give you more "room" for certain notes above the staff, if that makes any sense.

Its a bit harder to play but has a darker tone

Because it gives them special brass playing powers

+MusicIsLife I'm professional trumpet play....I have this.....

Extra air flow

People without teeth: reality can be whatever I want.

@@johnwaoi1793 🤣

I think there's just no reason for him to ask questions because the teacher makes himself clear and the student is very advanced and understands what the teacher means.

@@SpaghettiToaster and also you can be quite nervous when a camera is rolling

Yeah and there is always the risk of saying something that comes across not the way you want. Usually on my first lesson with a professor i just shut the fuck up I make minimal conversation and just listen

They are water keys that are also used to adjust tuning

You’re right 😂🐓🍗

It’s a rotary value trumpet. Not sure what exact trumpet he has though.

A german rotary trumpet

It´s Schagerl rotary C-trumpet :)

Кенан Рзаев trumpet

I know this trumpet but what kind of rotary trumpet

Gabor plays a Schagerl Rotary Trumpet; thinks its the "Hörsdorf Heavy" model....not really sure if its exactly that model, but definetly "Schagerl" ;)

Nope. Rotary is MUCH more cylindrical and smaller bore. Bigger bell and deeper mouthpiece.

Every master teaches his class differently

@@luisjimenez4986 I couldn’t agree more

He plays on schagerl trumpets

Boe1771 I would think so. Usually adding valves is for extending range and making more possibilities for alternative valve combinations for better intonation

Usually but really all the time

Theyr arn not valves. They are water keys that are also used to adjust tuning

I thought it was a Mendini by Cecilio trumpet

@@luisjimenez4986 so funny. You should be a comedian

demonface INC no it’s a tuning bell trumpet, the bell moves and is the tuning slide. It’s thought to improve intonation.

From the Met - now retired. If so we have a mutual friend. And I believe I am friends with your HS teacher too. I don't like to throw out names. ;) I was a pretty good player ... now merely a has been lol !

The Imp I took 1 lesson with the Mark you're refering to, but I am definitely not one of his students. As for my hs teacher, was he a band director for Wood-Ridge middle and highschools?

Samuel Lee Well Mark and I have been friends for over 40 years and I used to study will Mel starting when I was 17and off an on for years among a load of other NY guys. I was more of a Bob McCoy , Jim Maxwell player who I also spent a bunch of time with. I am 62 now. I thought you might have been a guy that studied a long time with MG who was highly thought of and his first name was also Sam and went to HS in Morristown. I wish you well with any auditions. You have confidence and as a principal player that is a lot of the battle ! Play on !

Yes it's a german rotary trumpet. They are the standard in germany and austria and have a darker tone

REAL

Dude, its a C trumpet.

you're an idiot.

***** Oh come on now. You're the only one who looks bad because you haven't backed up your opinion. This is an important discussion that essentially boils down to American vs. European style. It's a discussion that doesn't happen a lot, so why shoot it down?

starwarsjunkie7777 :)

Sam did you study with Mark ?

+owen wu its german style playing which isn't wrong especially for Mahler

ahem ... so what? He is a terrific trumpet player. He would feel under great pressure, too.

Chris Hamilton so what? He needs to smile, radiate personality and charisma when he plays. Like Richard Simmons playing trumpet. In fact, he should probably wear false eyelashes. That would help too. It's all about showmanship.

No it is all about musicianship

@@shawnhampton8503 smiling while playing is not a good idea

@@shawnhampton8503 You're an idiot

+John DelVento I thought it was a double dotted quarter/sixteenth rhythm. IDK, I've never seen the sheet music for the 1st trumpet part, only the 1st tbone part.

+William Robinson it is.

+William Robinson it is double dotted quarter 16th

William Robinson elaborate

Gabor is actually playing 32nd notes. I know that a lot of pros do this for effect, but it's not fair to blame the kid.

Dr. Logos He's definitely playing sixteenth notes. If you look at the excerpts sheet music and subdivide the rhythm, you will find out that Gabor is playing it in rhythm, not rushing and not playing half the note value. He is anticipating the beat if anything. Pros don't use incorrect rhythm for effect, they play the page with musicality.

Austin Smith You are right; I found an excerpt and saw that I was hearing the tempo half time. Then, the kid was playing 8th notes much of the time. I've heard pros half sixteenth notes for clarity, but I jumped to conclusions. I suppose that it would be more taboo to do that when you're playing a part in a symphony piece as opposed to a solo.

Sam did you study with Mark ?

LOL. Are you joking? Obviously your 'point' has no validity. "I didnt feel like arguing over youtube, a place where most can't really play the trumpet." Are you serious dude? PLEASE tell me you're joking. Gabor Tarkovi may not be a legend (yet) but he is without doubt one of the worlds finest classical trumpet players. Please, upload a video of yourself so you can "describe your point." I really want to hear you play, you must be so much better than Gabor. Lmao.

SE where are you? In the nyc area? Id be happy to play for your disrespectful ass. Cause im not famous, yet, means I don't know what im talking about? To be honest my sound is too big, im struggling to get it recorded. To me, you can't even begin to compare yourself to the titans if you can't swing and play jazz. Im just critiquing attack, and yes, I would prefer to demonstrate in person. And yes, I would bury both guys playing in this video at the same time, but that is due to proper tone production (see Bill Adam pedagogy). And I am auditioning for the New York Philharmonic principal trumpet job this fall. Email me, samuel.e.lee@gmail.com. consider this a call out.

SE so what are your credentials? Again, im new on the scene, but you will definitely be hearing about me.

Samuel Lee You're hilarious dude. Please keep in mind I have made ZERO claims about my own trumpet playing abilities. I just find it unbelievable that you're trash talking the principal trumpet player of the Berlin Philharmonic, and you're claiming you're better than him. If you really want to know, I'm a high school student (LOL). Like I said, I didn't make any claims on my own abilities. And please, tell me how that audition goes. Just want to let you know, just because you're auditioning doesn't mean jack shit. I hope you're a troll. "To be honest my sound is too big, im struggling to get it recorded... And yes, I would bury both guys playing in this video at the same time, but that is due to proper tone production " LMAO. Way to be modest! If you're this arrogant, I doubt you'll be getting very far in your "career. " I also find it funny that you refuse to put up a video. It's not very hard to do, and it would be a perfect representation of your skills, just like it would be in person. I mean, you REALLY have the guts to say that most people on RU-vid don't know anything about trumpet, but you won't even put up a video? LOLLLLL