Carrie & Crow - Pattern Test (34g 5 Pigeon Extreme) 

Im enjoying these pattern tests! Keep it up!

Great video again Dave. Keep them coming, am looking forward to the next. It's also inspired me to pattern test my setup of B525 30" 20bore, Teague choked at half in both barrels using Gamebore black gold fibre wad 6's in 28 & 30gram. Regards, Matt

Again Dave + Andy you have shown how much cartridges have improved over recent years. I was given some Estate cartridges once for pigeon, and I think the pigeon was traveling faster than the pellets. Hence they were binned.

Really enjoyed this be very interesting to see the fibre vs plastic debate! Well done Dave

Hi Dave ,dont you think the full choke crushes a lot of pellets and loses pattern more.Have you ever tried pattern master chokes in a gun where they stop the wad and shorten shot string giving more lead into the pattern at range

Yet another great video Dave! I so enjoy all of them. One day I'll make my way from the States.

The ''George Digweed'' Pigeon Extreme is a brilliant cartridge..Well chaps here we go into the nitty gritty with people who shoot enough to know the score and hopefully how to overcome the marked difference in efficiency when shooting pheasants at range.F16 is 18.6 mm.bore.What Triplex bore design means I am not really sure but local gunsmith says they are playing with tapers.I have personally witnessed how the shot to kill ratio has increased by some margin on high bird shoots which have made the transition to fibre wad only.Purely as an example a 32grm fibre wad 5 shot is not the same as a 32grm Plas Wad 5 shot on any decent bird let alone ''archangels''.Good luck Dave will be an interesting ride.

Thanks, Dave. That's a hell of a half choke pattern at 55 yards. Looking forward to seeing the conclusions from your fibre vs plaswad test. I'm searching for a water soluble "plastic" wad solution for my MK60HP and MK38 trap guns and hope you are going to find that I don't need one.

Very interesting test and results , do/have you tested any steel shot loads ?

Read an article a while ago in Fieldsports about using a 28 bore as a high bird gun. What's your opinion on that?

I notice your patterns are a bit high would you not be better with the disc in the centre of your pattern especially on crossers, I shoot a benelli and it was about a foot high so lowered it ,it now shoots dead centre patterns , would this be better a tad high

Do you not feel plastic wads should be confined to clay shooting grounds, to limit plastic pollution in the countryside?

The newish miroku guns are over bored i think,i have a miroku mk70 and im sure its overboard .In tests this gives you more velocity ive read

Iv got an f16 like crows and it patterns really tight with the manufacturers chokes. Do you know what those extended ones are?

Calibre?

Surely your target should be in the centre of the pattern ,not most of the pattern high.Should the biggest percentage of the pattern not be around the bird where you are looking

I like Andy but he has this default setting of agreeing with everything when he has no idea what’s happening, you can see it visibly on his face . I’ve shot 36 years and didn’t know there was a difference in barrel inside diameter for fibre wads .