Cat launch new C13D 13 Litre engine at Conexpo - Allen Chen explains its key features and benefits 

I’ll 2nd that

Not going to happen

​@@melvinalbert6172 it will if we ban the EPA. Emissions are the biggest grift the rich have done since the palace of Versailles in the 1800s

Best engines ever

Working on that engine in a modern truck would be a major pain. I'm a road service mechanic, have you ever worked on a DD-15 & 16 with the compressor on the back? A rear gear train isn't a new idea for industrial engines, two stroke Detroits had it way back in the 1940's.

3406 doesn't have 550 horse

They can produce over 600 hp with ease when properly set up . Back in the late ‘80’s when I was Truck shop Foreman at Hawthorne Cat here in San Diego Ca. We had a lot of customers trucks running 400 plus , 500 plus & even a few making 600 plus corrected REAR WHEEL horsepower figures on our Superflow Chassis Dyno & even built up one customers 3408 with twin compound turbos and custom Bosch Fueling system sourced from a guy in Wisconsin I believe that did tractor pulls and a custom set of Built in Peoria Illinois Cat injectors for it that made a very respectable 1785 horsepower on our engine dynamometer at over 130 psi of boost !! There was over $50-k invested in that engine build with everything from Ceramic coated pistons to machining the block & heads for custom fire-rings made out of Stainless steel to seal pressures in each cylinder along with all the associated piping to set up the twin turbo setup. Once it was installed into the Peterbilt truck it was slated for it produced over 1250 rear wheel horsepower and held it effortlessly ( our Dyno was only rated for 1500 hp at that time ) and that truck FLEW out on the highway . They hauled heavy equipment ( lowboy multi axle trailer) with it and had a Hell of a time with driveline issues as I recall . If my memory is correct they eventually de-tuned it a bit to Quell some of the high boost & torque issues at lower throttle positions to make it a bit easier to drive . Those were some good old days with minimal intrusion from our EPA & government. Wish we could somehow go back again ……🤔🤨😐

@@alvin6145 youcan have any engine tuned to any HP. I bet you dont even drive. or thats all you do.

@@alvin6145 seems you like to be a keyboard warrior. You obviously don't have a clue. In my line of trucking. off highway, High Mountain oversize load logging, you learn everything you can can about your ride and rigging and you get as much hp as you can because lf you can't pull a hill with a gross of 85000kg you can end up being your last load. But I bet highway princess like you wouldn't understand why we want 550- 600hp. Keep your mouth shut if you don't know. Keyboard warrior.

Rebuilt, flashed & she purrs

Im wondering if it has the hydraulic adjustment in the rockers like the cat C3.4b.

You are completely right, I agree with you!👍

Off road

there will never be another internal combustion powerplant with a better ROI than a 3406b in a heavy truck, dt466c in medium duty, and 12v cummins (case actually) in a pickup. If you have it...KEEP IT

​@@petejohnson8397 The 3406b burned to much fuel to be a roi winner. I think a mid-90's Series-60 Detroit would be better. 7mpg, easy million miles between in-frams and they only cost about $10k for a complete in-frame rebuild. That's what I ran for 14 years('97 Freightliner with 470hp Detroit) and made alot more money than my friends with 3406b.

No it didn't ppl just don't have the right combos My dad had a old school b and sipped fuel but everything wasn't stock

Is that the best engines to work on, and better in fuel ?

Cat is at full capacity building off road equipment. Why would they want to get back into on road BS?

​@Tom Christman why you ask? To make us happy. Get us away from the Red Cummins crap.

There’s no need for it. Trucking is not what it used to be.

LMFAO thank you!! 😂

My 06 nxs Cat has 1.2 mil and still going strong with no rebuild.

Will the engine work if I use mountain dew instead of oil?

@@locopaul1 yes

2WS36607 at 1.8 mil never open mine

Also the last decent cat engine 😂

3406 probably the best engine Cat ever made, it’s a legendary world wide

@@12345anton6789 nothing better

Not necessarily. Depends on the application honestly. If they go OTR, you just know that Freightshaker and Intertrashional will make working on them infuriating. On machines though, it generally isn't a whole lot worse.

Not on a cabover

@@Tchristman100

There are no need for COE any longer. What was the last one in this country, the Argosy?

They don’t build them to be worked on

I genuinely thought this was for April fools but they’re being serious.

Right?

just about all the engines in trucks now have a rear gear train

Someone works on dd13 ,15 ,16 engines

Yeah and on mack if you tear up a air compressor gear its like 26k to fix it. Got to pull transmission. They make nothing on the truck and they rape you in the shop

Everything. Larger then the 3116 has liners. It's all repairable. I guess the big question is if they finally dropped he spacer plate setup.

I saw another video on this engine and it showed it with the head off and I could see the liners but I couldn’t tell if it had a spacer plate…bigger cat engines have had them for a long time…not sure if they would drop it or not…🤔

@@roballan4944 3126/C7 to be pedantic. Re the spacer plate the 3176/C-12/C13 have all had mid supported liners that is the step in the liner is about halfway down the stroke to give better support. The 3176 had a spacer deck that filled that space - but if you didn't keep glycol well above 30% it could get cavitated away - this was replaced by iron with the C-12 as casting technology had improved so that the weight penalty was no longer significant. The C-12 was Cat's most reliable on-highway engine - at least in Australia, bar none.

Cat has stayed away from them for 15 years on this size engine, in that time there has been lots of development to get them reliable unlike the first versions.

Couldn’t have said it any better myself

Sadly true But hey the democrats think that this emissions bs will change the world.... A d the there us China polluting way more than many countries combined

I swear to God, the only reason they quit making them was because they weren’t selling enough parts lol 😂😂 best Detriot of my generation I never got to work on the 2 strokes tho

Dam straight Hold on to it as long as u can Simple and reliable Yet affordable

max torque is 2360 lb ft @ 1300. Cat used to race C-12 engines in Europe and Australia - they reached ~1500hp and 3000 lbft with main components only lightened (crank) for response. The bottom end was AWESOME. The one in Australia was kept at around 1200 hp as it didn't need to be babied at all, called old reliable. Just roll up to practice bring the truck and go for it.

That’s a good question

I'm betting China

C9 to C18 are assembled in Seguin Texas (near San Antonio).

@@ianloy1854 where do the parts come from to assemble them?

@@daleolson3506 From all over I am sure including China. I can't remember the supplier countries when I did a factory tour not so long ago. Many are from the USA, Cat has a component facility also near San Antonio for these engines.

😂me as well only need 1

Be careful what you wish for. I would give them ten years before trying. Let someone else pioneer the headaches.

This is taking the c15 and c18 spot. They are being discontinued.

Thats why CAT 3406 is still king💪💪

Some of the larger engines don't require crank case fumes ventilation per EPA or EU. It also possible they went to a filter inside the valve cover like the 3.6L but I doubt it.

@@outdoor044 You are correct about the filter as the emissions from the breather are measured as part of the exhaust and that now includes both a mass AND a particle count requirement so you can't afford to NOT have it VERY well filtered. Alternative is to put it into the engine, Cat has never liked putting anything other than clean air into the engines. '04 ACERT avoided EGR. '07 ACERT brought exhaust in AFTER the DPFs (and a whole lot of other issues as it turned out). EGR was done when required on the earthmoving side as it was preferable at the beginning to requiring AdBlue/DEF, Cat equipment can be in some incredibly remote locations.

How often are people changing gears on the gear train? I think you’re being a little ridiculous. This ain’t a car with a timing belt in the rear gear training needing replacement every 100k miles.

Probably not worth it. But that's just me.

@@shakiepete7782 I’d risk it for a biscuit…

No! Why do you say that ?

The thing is, every trucker knows that there aint nothing like a Yellow Engine 😎. Thats why Cumaparts havent ever actually replaces them. Heck, those Red Cumaparts cant even comparw to the most reliable engine close to the old CATs , the Detroit Series 60, the most popular engine right now for Owner Ops

No.

you might want to look again, the daf mx engine is different in every way

Or perhaps an MAN engine?

No it’s not. Most definitely CAT

There's no EGR on this engine.

DEF addresses the same thing. They're moving away from NRS/EGR and letting the DEF take care of it.

@@typrus6377 that's amazing are there new engines like this? even the x15 has an EGR all other newer engines have it and honestly I think the EGR is the biggest pain to deal with on modern engines, just this alone makes me want to have something with this engine. I'm surprised it's not a selling point on their brochure.

@esaucl That C9.3B in the background of the video doesn't have EGR/NRS. And those have been being installed for a couple of years now in equipment. I've put hands on several units that are that way.

@@typrus6377 is this mainly for off highway applications?

‼I like your style 👍😉😀

None.

This is possibly an industrial, and maybe a marine engine.

Who said anything about this going into a truck ????. Not cat .

Absolutely none. All off highway

@@HJZ75driver Yup, that's the way I heard it. Industrial, or other off-road applications only.

No - all Cat

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--TDYSSv860g.html or will you?

Most don't understand this at all. Just had co-worker say CAT bring out new engine for trucks. Shows me pictures of this engine LOL.

@a man their marine engines come from Fiat so I thought they have finally realised that they cant built engines and it is better to buy them outside. Deutz has hydraulic lifters.

​@@V8Lenny Cat haven't made their own engine smaller than the 9.3L in years. Now, they did recently release their own 3.something to replace the 4.4, but we'll see if it's worth a lick.... They have Fiat, Deutz, Perkins, and Kubota engines in their smaller line, painted yellow.

@@typrus6377 C12.9 is also Fiat

@@V8Lenny I've never been on the marine side, only land. I had until now never even heard of that engine. Interesting.

C13 blow up every day, C11 same engine less hp last for ever. C13 fire breather, is too expensive to rebuild, I hope they have plenty of crankshafts in stock this will throw a leg out of bed everyday.

That is seperate

international engines us a Cummins emission control system

They said in some other vids the ONE turbo C-18 - as you say the C-18 can do more power.

put it on the end of the anchor chain and put the anchor where the engine goes…you’d have better chance of making it home….gear train at the back…they can stick it up their ass!

DD16; hold my beer...

Cummins! Hands down!

CAT has always been better then cummins, Detroit Diesels are better too

Both Cummins and Detroit are far better than cat... Cats are garbage

he was a loud mouth fool--turned the volume down--heard him fart a couple of times though