Watch the full CATAN Canada Championship game between Mark Montreuil, Josef Sansom, Jean Moquin and Sarvat Tahir. Former U.S. Champion Chris Broderick and his brother Tim Broderick provide commentary for this exciting final game.
Im just sitting there while my brother in law is loudly and slowly assessing all his moves. My moms complaining of back pain after delaying the game all on her own
@@PeteMD Give credit where it's due though. He was last to place his first settlement and then there weren't any advantageous spots for him after with his second settlement, especially one that compliments the first... He played very well in the first half with what he had at the time and knew his route to winning was through heavy trading.. But yeah, It was very clear he shouldn't go for longest road in the endgame until getting a city down first but he continued.... Saying that though, he didn't play like shit the entire game, he was probably playing the best of the 4 in the beginning 15-20 turns; no matter how annoying people find him (I'm one of them).
@@tomasgd93 Yea, Good that he lost. He is manupalitive(spelling?), Seems at first like some1 you rly would like to be around, and voila! turning out to be an asshole. Whats nice is that one of the nice guys finnished first ;)
I have to say you guys did great work with the camera work and the over board camera. Its high definition and you can see the board SO WELL. I hope future Catan tournement videos follow the same way, it makes it so enjoyable. Keep up the good work!!!
I had no idea people played this competitively, but it was a fun watch. It probably helped that I picked a player to root for at the beginning and that player ended up winning.
Haha, congrats and welcome to the big world of CATAN! You're soon to find out the enormous online community and all the profesionalism-like content around cus once I was at your spot and I DID NOT regret it! Cheers and good luck!
Lessons learned from this game: 1. The person who is talking over everyone else and throwing their influence around isn’t always the most dangerous threat. 2. Talk soft, play smart, and let the loud person take all the attention off of you.
40:00 they neglect the fact that Sarvat has the brick port so with her city she is doubling up on both resources for which she has a port. I think it was the best call.
Not only that, but she also has a corn port. That guarantees a "free" resource whenever 5, 8 or 9 drops since she also has double on 5. Clearly the best choice for making use of the insane ports she has
At 39:48 they miss that she gets more value for citying the 9-8 than 10-5-4 almost exclusively because she has the 2:1 port for wheat and brick. It's true that this makes it harder for her to lose brick if the 5 is blocked, but getting a guaranteed wild card resource from 2 very common roles is insanely valuable late game.
100% - I think they just didnt realize the port was a 2:1 Brick because of screen glare or something, but most realize this and agree it was the better place to city. Thank you!!
It surprises me how 4 people who are on the final’s of a national championship doesn’t know the rules of the game. Jean forgot to play and passed the dice. Almost instantly he remembered It and asked for the dices. So Mark says “as soon as he passes the dice (he’s done)”. There is no such thing, as page 4 of the official rules clearly says on your turn “You MUST roll for resource production”.
I am surprised they don't use a dice cup at such a high level as this. Seems very friendly and respectful. I wonder if this will change if/when Catan tournaments gets larger and more competitive.
The first roll of the game was a 7. Then he rolled again to decide who to steal from. I was surprised to see that amount of informality with the dice! Those are sacred cubes with only so much stored potential that requires me to channel my full chakra into rolling my designated number. Was just surprised to see them tossed around.
@@Rabazziii this game involves politics and trading it also has stealing you are not a bad person for playing the game the best way you can. I hope you're just trolling.
@@sarvattahir5112 Hey! Some commenters are saying you dropped a card on purpose and switched them when Mark chose to steal from you somewhere around the 30:00 mark. Can you confirm if that was intentional?
100%! my 5 was already a target and would have been that much more of a target had I citied it up, plus I had a brick port so the 9/8 helped me diversify to make it hard for them to block me
Agreed. And it paid off instantly since she rolled an 8 immediately and used it to get one of her two cities next turn. I guess that's why one of the dudes is the former NA champion ;)
Good job to this lady, she’s the only one at this table that deserves to be playing at a national final table. The lads were horrible. Seems clear to me looking at the board that sheep and clay will be under supplied, and wood and wheat oversupplied. Taking wheat over sheep in the placement was a huge blunder. Also the clay + wheat port is clearly a great spot, and it not being blocked and going so late surprised me, and I think decided the game.
"But you should probably politely say "no". You don't want to make any ennemies out here." Hum... Well, for what its worth, white player played a legit a-hole move on him earlier and didn't display any sort of sportsmanship... an eye for an eye.
For years, yeeeeeears, I was against the Catan craze. Thought it was overrated and overhyped; that my collection doesn't need it. I finally broke down and bought the base game to really give it a shot. After a few rounds, I was hooked. The next big hurdle is to get a regular play group to play this. I can't wait
You never want to get caught in a road race, if you’re going to go for the longest road, assert early dominance and plan your path that is a natural progression of your game, to discourage others from competing with you, or else it’s just a unnecessary ressource drain. Also, who would want to win a game because someone forgot to roll? Yuck
Asserting early dominance for longest road can be a good strategy but it depends on your resource income. The trick for longest road is that you want to take it, but never want to defend it. People look at points and won't trade with you and can even trade with each other to fuck you over, so if longest road is easy grabs don't take it yet. Wait till you are sure that you can finish the game, because the moment you take the longest road a war around the longest road will start and you have to sink resources into it to keep it, which is bad. The only time you want to force it while not being ready is when there is a threat of being cut off by someone. This happens more often the smaller the map gets. Remember longest road gives you only 3 things: 2 points, places to build and map control if executed through the middle of the map. You can sacrifice those 2 points for even more map control by using roads to prevent other players from expanding, this is especially effective early on, but can be quite risky. A benefit can be that the cost for securing the longst road can drop in price, because players don't have space to build or lack the resources to do because they can't access new resource spots.
I think the only fair way to play out the final 4 is to have 4 rounds, playing on the same board, with each person getting a turn to go first... We all know, the 4 positions are not perfectly balanced, so in fairness, everyone should be able to have a go at each position. I realize this takes more time, and that is why I only recommend it for the final four. Chess is a championship involving 12 ROUNDS...
White player could talk the talk for trading but kept building roads with the spoils for no reason... Orange literally felt like the only player who played well at the table with the rest completely forgetting how to city up or get some knights on the table!
@@kryger4840 I'm not disputing they're not top players, I'm sure they got there for a reason, I'm saying that only one of them played well in that game whereas the others clearly made a lot of poor plays.
Kryger48 there are probably no pro players in catan in canada. Maybe if you are world top you got some money but these players except for the winner are nowhere near top. They make so many easy to fix mistakes
I am fairly new to Catan, but I have to agree about placement. I definitely try to have at least one of each resource with my first two victory points. On the second I usually go for brick and wood and keep my 2 settlement's close and work on the longest road achievement. 2 victory points and potentially blocking the other players from major expansion.
the position of the names and the catan board shift so often, hard to follow. i suggest a central location for the board when its not the main focus on screen
Its a common play and usually called an 'aggressive monopoly'. The issue with it is this is taped and EVERYONE for years and years remembers you did that and will always remember you for it and it ruins your reputation and game play moving forward. Hence its not a common play most dare to do. Also, I was pretty confident I was in a good position and could get the win, so why play so aggressively and leave bitter tastes in everyone's mouths...sometimes we also have to think long term in that regards.
@@redtoxic8701 Read my reply and let me know what you think, but I would be very careful with that move.. its hated upon and people will never play with you the same again after.
Don't know why people are hating on Mark. Mark definitely has a different "attitude", but it's still a style of play. Can't deny that speech is also a big part of the game.
It's a fools strategy. Play the diplomat, show unsportsmanlike behaviour and cuck yourself out of trades once the players identify you as trying to dominate through speech. Mark played like a twat.
at 40:00 the commentary is wrong. She city up the top because it's 8 Brick and she has port (2 brick for 1 anything) . 8 is very common and can be traded for anything...
Since when can you pass your turn?? I've always been under the impression that you have to role the dice no matter what. Seems that a turn pass could benefit players that are holding too many cards and disadvantage others who are in need of resources.
I wish all the people I want to play this game could catch on. To their credit, it’s a fairly complicated game, definitely more complicated than Yahtzee or Dominoes.
Commentator disagrees with Sarvat city placement at 40:00. I think that's her best move to city on wheat and brick as she has both ports. 9 or 8 roll and she can trade for which ever card.
Even though the nicest personality at the table, It was very painful to watch how plays Red, no wonder he finished with 3pts... He chose ok settlements for pure OWS (low Wheat, but gots lucky with many 10’s) But he trades it all for useless (at start for him) Brick/Wood, instead of saving for City and then go DevCards, and then get Brick/Wood by stealing with Knights or pulling Year of Plenty. And what was that at 37:05 ??? He has a City in Hand but changes 2 Ore for 1 Sheep to Yellow who is his biggest opponent for Army race and the current Leader and ofc Yellow won.
I got 2 very big questions to ask about this game . 1. Why where they able to play development cards before they even riled the dice ? From what I read in the instruction booklet it said you always roll the dice first then comes the trading and development cards. 2 . Why was mark able to place his 5th settlement without a city? In the rule book that comes with the game it says that you can not build your 5th settlement without having one city because you always have to have at least one settlement in your hand. edit: Nvm I was completely wrong about the first one and the second I miss understood what it meant when I read it. So I got my question answered.
Am i dumb for thinking that white could've put his second settlement on the 5-6 ore, sheep instead of the 11-6-3. I mean yeah 11 proved useful but honestly i think it would make more sense because then others wouldn't have ore either, he has effectively locked the coast and can expand to that ore port and he still gets his good sheep and has some brick. I know that the probability of producing from the 11-6-3 is better but dice doesn't always work like that. I mean he could've even gone on the 9-8 wheat, brick and capitalize on that but I guess it wouldnt be smart to not have any sheep.
Ok so first. ive only played this 4 times now but its great. we were looking for ways to mix it up but the rules dont explain. so questions. how do they determin who puts down first settlement? also is there any limits on where you can put it? How do they determin which cards to take initally?
I don't get why they have building guideline cards on the table and are using them... I would have thought players in the championship would have all the build combinations memorized..
Hey CATAN, can you zoom in slightly more in these videos going forward? Pretty please! I need to get better so I can take down my friend who wins most often ;)
The closer a number is to 7, the more likely it is to be rolled, so middling numbers like 5,6,8,9 are usually better. If you're learning the game, settling to get a mix of resources and numbers for more balanced production is usually a solid strategy. And yes, luck is definitely a large factor in this game.
jumping between the different camera positions is very annoying ... and it would be way more interesting, when the cards of the players would be shown in every corner