Incompetence is your God, having waited on the Jew' Messiah for 2000 years, indoctrinated by Roman literature. " for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:" Galatians 3:13.
Tks for your work, I'm reformed presbyterian. However, my background is Catholic, I'm also interested in the topic of ecumenism. I love your videos and also Bishop Barron, tks for the books recommended 😊
Thanks for a great video. Much appreciated! Bishop Barron is a great servant of the Lord. I read CS Lewis' "Mere Christianity" some years ago and found it a fascinating read. In fact, it was a revelation that brought me closer to Christ. God Bless!
Yeah, actually his analysis is the sole proof we need that humbly having awe of God is the sole source of *hatred of God*; and no, this's not motivated by pride at all, that trait would lead to discipleship, this's the fruit of how he correctly lays out what the proper response to God is: fear of God; and that alone leads man to *hate God AS God is God and therefore the sole proper response ever is one of unlimited hatred of the superior*, namely and especially God Himself- not motivated at all by envy of the divine, but by humbling oneself before HIm. In short, any theologian is a fully incompetent idiot and/or a simple heretic: as they portray God as someone to be hated solely for being in any way an object of sheer terror, not in any way devotion at all, but by humbling oneself to Him: hatred of Him that will never ever cease nor be overturned as it comes solely out of His directives and obedience thereto.
Yeah, if he laid out the god you should worship: you're clearly an idolaterer: as that kind of a "god" is not in any way trustworthy, but is certain to abuse you: due to His superior status, if not mandating being an object of sheer terror, not charity at all- and *that* comes not out of envy of the divine, but out of sheer humility before Him.
Jesus is The Way The Truth and The Life His whole life on earth was in divine service to Our Father in heaven. At the Transfiguration his divinity was gloriously revealed to us. His compassion and tender care for us is amazing while we still were and are sinners. He went about healing and loving and protecting. Jesus i Trust in You 🙏🙏🙏🙏Thank you Bishop Barron for such a great teaching on Our Lord and Blessed King of Kings forever and ever 🙏 Amen.
The bishop provides a beautiful recitation of the Christ story as embraced by those who choose to follow the Christian tradition. Those who have chosen other traditions have different perspectives that are also quite compelling. I love them all. In the end, we must choose our own path to enlightenment because matters of faith are never accompanied by proof that leads to certainty. (Faith and proof are non-intersecting circles on a Venn diagram.) As a quick criticism: “either he’s God or he’s a bad man” falsely forces a binary on the decision tree. A third branch, which should always be included when applying logical treatments to matters of faith, is we don’t know or understand.
I would find Matthew Korp and Bishop Barron more fascinating. But that would be too unfair on Bishop Barron. And Bishops talk: they don't listen. Not their job.
What I find interesting is that the language used in the scriptures, Torah, gospels Quran etc is complex and anecdotal and open to many interpretations. Indeed, they are also referred to parables. Thus theologians from the three major monotheistic religions come up with different interpretations to accommodate their basic ideology. Whether God did give Moses the Ten Commandments they are a good set of rules to abide by and to be a good person here on earth.
The Christian gospel is clearly that you don’t earn your way into heaven by being good and following the rules. That is the pharisaical pattern that Christ condemned so clearly. Jesus said “ Follow me and believe in me”
@@johnsteichen5239 yes, I know. My initial comments were directed at the different interpretations of the scriptures by the principal three monotheistic religions. They each profess salvation is achieved by their beliefs. My sequitur of adherence to the 10 commandments being a good template to live by is a direct reference to this life rather than any future spiritual life after death.
There is no list of 10 Commandments in the Bible. There are references to 13 in Exodus and a list of 19 in Deuteronomy. By Hebrew tradition these are amalgamated and redacted to create list of 10. But that is in a non-canonical Hebrew texts. The Hebrew Bible has over 600 commandments: most of which are ignored by the church as irrelevant. A few such as one that endorse slavery, killing women and children, ripping unborn from mothers womb are repudiated by the church. There are varying interpretation and clarification of these Commandant by different faith communions too. As N T Write advises Christians often don't like it when he tells them what is in the Bible.
It is not possible for any individuals to comprehend God and Jesus Christ and holy spirit,all individuals can do through the gift of discernment is have it revealed through the holy spirit amen
Everyone who has a Bible and is willing to read in it will learn who Jesus is. John 14 “Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God; believe also in me. 2 My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. 4 You know the way to the place where I am going.” Jesus the Way to the Father 5 Thomas said to him, “Lord, we don’t know where you are going, so how can we know the way?” 6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.” 8 Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.” 9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves. 12 Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. 13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it." The Holy Bible, the source of Bishop Barron, is freely available in either printed or online form. To explain the Bible should be the core of the Roman Catholic Church instead of dwelling in their 'own' interpretations, rites, standards, and riches.
The simple choice: "BE STILL and know I AM" or remain in your external circular intellect. Either unite to the kingdom of God, which is ENTIRELY within you, or lose your do-gooding self in this material creation. "NOT by works of righteousness..." [Titus 3:5-7]
8:17 8:23 the devil is the father of lies and thats not understood by many. His encounter with jesus proves he can twist scripture just like the many apologetics of today.
Christian Questions that I haven’t heard answered Did God create everything? Is he then connected to everything? Is he absolutely good? Then how does evil exist?
@@andrewbloomquist6351 James 1:13-14 - God tempts no one. Each person is tempted by his own desire. God gives us freewill to cooperate with Him or reject Him. - Evil exists for beings are free to decide it, God won't intervene but the judgement is coming.
What is a human being,how u know ur true self we can have a subjective idea about ourselves but we can't tell what kind of person we become at the end of our journey. So why confess to any man,we have a heavenly father once we can say ABBA father, romans chapter 8: 14-17
I think Bishop Barron is as good as it gets in the Catholic tradition and broader Christianity. Lots of respect, really. Having said that, and going to the core of what he is saying here, it just doesn’t make sense to me to “decide” whether Jesus was A or B. He was who he was. A man’s opinion or belief about him two thousand years later doesn’t affect reality, whatever it is. It will affect himself but it is not knowledge, it’s (at best) an informed guess. I just don’t see the moral value of guessing or having an strong opinion about it. We just don’t know. Can’t base my life on a guess about an historical person or event. It’s like gambling. There must be another way. That’s why I prefer natural theology and the wisdom traditions. Reason and experience seem to me to be trustworthy enough to walk the path of spirituality. They don’t require believing in something we just do not know and, probably, cannot know. Maybe actual knowledge will develop into deep faith but sheer belief as a kick starter or as the primordial engine to one’s spirituality is… to much to ask imo. I mean, people will believe in the measure of their need (I need too, I’m not judging) but wouldn’t it be just better to actually know? Is it not a reasonable thing to aspire to?
Interesting, and I quasi understand where you're coming from. Perhaps, a distinction that could be made, is it isn't necessarily about an argument put forth by Bishop Barron. The crux of the issue is that Jesus demands that you make the choice. If Jesus is not God, He's a lunatic. If He is God, what He said and commanded must be followed. It doesn't matter which era one finds him/herself.
I think through natural theology one can examine and make judgement on the new world Jesus is revealing. But also notice how faith is valued in this Way. Now we don't want it to be subrational but instead this hints that at the edge of our abilities we do have to make a leap of faith. How someone makes that leap is up to them but I think it can be seen in reality just how powerful and necessary faith is to human flourishing. Which leads me to believe faith plays a role in how our spirits thrive and are saved.
That’s not what the faith asks. You’re asked to walk not crush yourself into an affected faith. Go to mass, say your prayers, you will meet God and speculation will cease
I know you’re making a logical argument. But, as a practical matter, this only holds up if Jesus actually made the claim and the record of that claim is accurate. If, as the historical record suggests, the claim to divinity was made at an Ecumenical Council years later, the good bishop’s argument becomes moot. Jesus didn’t make the claim, therefore it can’t be evidence that he is a bad man. Quick note: Bible verses that the church has interpreted as Jesus’s claims to divinity are vague at best. Please, can we at least agree that the doctrine of divinity (and the Trinity for that matter) was established by the church centuries later? Our faith will be strengthened when we choose to acknowledge history rather than reject it because it doesn’t validate our beliefs.
With the Creation of the Heavens & Earth together with the Creation of Man & Woman … God Set into Motion a “Grand Experiment”. God - Started by giving Each of Us > Freedom - of - Will… Free Will of “Personal” Choice. He then, Set Before Us … the Rules by Which He “Asked / Suggested” Us to Live By i.e. 10 Commandments and his Teachings. He then said .. Here are my Requests .. In “Our”, Grand Experiment i.e. Yours & Mine… You can Do with Your Lives as You “Free Will” Wish / Choose. But “Know This” … That Your - Eternal Life - will be Decided Not by Me, But by “Your Own Actions” in my Grand
If the hypostatic union is correct, and there is no division between the human nature and divine nature in Christ, then he should have known the time of his return, which he said he didn't know. But Scripture shows us he was indeed God in the flesh, the Logos (Word) made into a man. But "being found in the form of a man" meant he no longer had his miraculous attributes of deity. In fact, Jesus states that his miracles were from the Father, who was in him and he in the Father. That would mean he still had the spiritual identity as the Word of God, but now made a man, doing miracles by the Holy Spirit, the Father dwelling in him. So he was and always is divinity. But he did not have the miraculous attributes of his own deity. This is also how he grew in wisdom.
It takes a conscience decision to #1 disregard all the other gods as fake and #2 believe the Jesus story completely based on bad evidence. Priests know this and play on your decision to believe for no other reason than to win your loyalty and your cash. That is the truth about Jesus.
I understand what you’re saying, but I’m less cynical about the church’s motive. It was a Jesuit who implored me to find god in all things. Yes, a Catholic priest told me to look other places in addition to, not instead of, the church to seek enlightenment.
1:19:03 colossian church it was an encouragement to to Paul bc The colossian Church Must Stand in the true gospel so that they can stand through the assault of false teachings and Paul includes himself into that he rescued us that is a great encouragement that not only did Paul rescue the colossian church so that there are some church that is special in some sense but he rescued not only them but Paul and he rescued not only Paul but all who are Saints are you a saint this morning have you have you been set aside and set apart from the world to Christ for his purpose and his use have you been washed clean by the blood of the Lamb then it is us that he is rescued it says that he rescued us from the domain of Darkness so that having qualified US ccw 0:00 Transcript it's body bound Psalm 9 | Praise God for His Justice | 11/25/2023 -
Interesting that in the Paulian Epistles there is no mention of Jesus' mission in Galilee, his family, diciples or places names. Paul does assert he received the Eucharist by revalation directly from Jesus. The Gospel of Mark makes no mention of Jesus birth: Mark 4,5 are formulated with Jesus having an eventful crossing of the sea, preaching and miracles: 3 times. The Gospels draw on the Hebrew Bible for the words attributed to Jesus. Eg, Sermon on Mount and Deuteronomy. Luke has Lazarus as a character in a parable, with John having Lazarus as the disciple most loved and immortal. There is no reference to Jesus in any chronicle of the era. We do though have Historical accounts that are at best misrepresented and likely changed by churches in latter era to make out they referred to Jesus. The Gospels in original Greek say Jesus to say Jesus was crucified: this was introduced in the Latin translation. There is much more that throughs doubt on a historical Jesus, and the possibility that Jesus was a Celestial being in the Hebrew tradition. I assume Bishop Barron knows all this better than most. So why is he so evasive: asserting certainty that the evidence does not support Sure, they may have been a person Jesus of Nazareth. But we can't ever know. Why do Christians lie in the defence of their Faith?
Yep, all of what you wrote is true. And you’re just getting warmed up. Contrary to what the good Bishop said, Jesus never declared himself to be God. He made several statements that can be stretched to fit that belief. Ecumenical councils took it across the finish line centuries later. There are several other church doctrines that were given the same treatment. Mary, whose place in the Catholic church is prominent and transactional, was initially just a Jewish woman who God chose as a vessel for the incarceration. She is mostly mentioned in Luke, briefly mentioned in Acts, then practically disappears in the epistles written by those who knew her best. That was all changed in Ephesus in 431 CE when she was declared Theotokos. (I’ll skip the reasons why this happened. I’ll also skip the history that led to the Trinity.) In the end, religions are humankind’s way of explaining what they intuitively feel: we are here, we have consciousness, the universe exists, and there must be a reason for it all. From that place in the human spirit springs many religions that serve as a language that attempts to express the inexpressible. Religions give people hope, and I can’t fault them for adopting simple explanations for the mysteries of life.
I don't think Christianity can capture the real Jesus, doctrinally or even biblically. The best christologists have to rely on germane to Jesus' historical identity is the conceptualizations and constructs of historians, theologians, and other experts . "Who do people say that I am?" --[Mysterium Fidei] Cf. MT in NT
Only God can calm the seas Only God can give new commandments Only God can cure leprosy Only God can forgive sin Only God can cast out demons Only God can walk on water Jesus did all of these and as a first century Jew they knew that It was His Jewish way of saying I AM GOD Not convinced ? ask the demons He cast out They knew the demons knew
Yeah, based on his rightful layout of Christ's personality in the teachings of the Church He Himself set up: He is an object of not goodness nor devotion but an object of *terror* and thus the rightful response to God is hatred of the divine due to humbling oneself before that monstrosity we call "God"... nobody could ever worship that kind of a deity Who Himself is not domesticated and thus in any capacity safe to approach: as He will abuse you- that's certain, due to Him being classified, correctly, as an object of terror and thus the sole proper response to the deity is hatred thereof coming not out of pride at all, but out of sheer humility and the rightful awe of God.
1:18:02 this message of good news this spiritual message and he makes the dead sinner alive it's not something that we ever wanted it's not something that we were ever looking for this is the work of God it's foolish to the world it doesn't make sense to the Natural man but this is the message of the Gospel in speaking to the dead sinner under death Authority he removes that dead sinner from that Authority and he transfers that dead sinner who is no longer dead into the Kingdom of Light The Sinner cannot be transferred so the sinner must be removed the sinner must be rescued the sinner must be qualified and what he says here is that for he rescued us we know that Paul is talking to the colossian church and at certain points Paul is says I pray for you we give thanks for you but at this point Paul includes himself into the work that God has done with the ccw 0:00 Transcript it's body bound Psalm 9 | Praise God for His Justice | 11/25/2023 -
You really still think it’s what traditions and history tell us. Nop. He lives in you. All characters in Bible are parts of you. Fit them in and you might have a profound understanding of the whole creation. Before you name yourself,….I AM You are eternal. Say things Jesus said; I am the light of the world. Yey that for few month and the Will of God in you,.. the Virgin (Mary),..you that is still there all intact. You are the second coming. How do I know? It happened. The kingdom of Heaven is within. When reached everything makes perfect sense. Then you see the kingdom in everyone…. When the log is out. I am the way and so are you. Am I Jesus? No,… but he sure is my brother. Yet,.. He doesn’t call me son. Once you are accomplished,.. and the truth is “ONLY YOU CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED. This might be unsettling and might be trying to nail me,… but remember it’s only you (or your own Christ) you crucify.
Ah. The gospels. Those 4 stories of jesus, with not a lot of variation in their stories. We have no way of verifying the words spoken by jesus and the claims of divinity are just that. Claims. You need to provide the evidence for anything divine, supernatural paranormal and so on. The gospels are the claims. Now the work begins by providing independent verification that jesus was in fact divine, whatever that is. The gospels were intended for believers and faithful followers. It was also intended for new recruits to the faith.
The irony is Jesus never made those claims. One minor quibble: faith is never derived from evidence. Knowledge comes from evidence. Faith is belief without evidence. Accordingly, all religions are, by definition, matters of faith because none are supported by evidence.
@@SknappCFA I'll go out on a limb and say faith is useless. Believing without evidence is not a reliable pathway to truth. On the subject of jesus and his claims to be the son of god. Maybe you should take that up with the bishop.
No question Jesus Christ walk this earth with two nature, human and divine, nature, remember Jesus could but did not use his divine nature to redeem us, he had to use His human nature to suffer thirst , cry weep like us, and actual die like us, then after Jesus died, notice every thing he did was his divine nature, first Jesus’s Resurection that Devine nature,, Jesus went trough the stone, not walk out of rolled stone which covered the grave, appeared to his disciples, walk through walls, till Jesus disappeared when he when to heaven
The gospel is so deeply embedded in the Catholic Church that I had to discover it in the evangelical/protestant tradition. Paul of Tarsus preached it quite clearly 2000 yrs ago. I had 20 years of Catholic education. 20 years. And this catholic priest explains it in 6 minutes. He must have discovered it in a Lutheran or Baptist church. 😂
You don’t need a catholic priest to explain christology just read the Gospel of John. Then you will be impressed. Everything I know about Jesus came from the Bible Nothing new here. I didn’t seem to get it from my 20 yrs of education. In the Catholic Church
Because the dominant form of the Christian church, though beginning in the Middle East (Israel spreading to Syria and Arab countries) later nestled in Europe around the time when art began to really take off historically, with it's its heights beginning in the renaissance. By then, with the advent of printing press and books/illuminated manuscripts etc., the image of a white Christ was everywhere due to master painters being from northern and Southern Europe, and the Arab/middle-eastern world being largely Islamic. That was the foundation, artistically, for what the world has come to know now. Though of course, the reality was most likely far, far different. I think that if we want to get an image of what Jesus most likely looked like, we can start with taking a look at the neighbors of Israel today -- people who were never exiled by ancient Assyria and Neo-Babylon over 2500 years ago, mixing with Europeans in their travels to find a new home.
Christianity took off with the gentiles of the Roman Empire who now days are referred to as white. In Europe, there weren't any reference points for Semitic appearance. I live in Africa and there are plenty of depictions of Jesus and Mary as black here. Mary even appeared to children in Rwanda in the 1980s as ethnically black.
They don’t. The historical art record includes countless examples of Jesus as a member of local societies. Asian, African, South America, they’re all there. My favorites are icons created in the Horn of Africa. Everyone wants to believe Jesus is “one of us.” You’re likely only seeing art created in western settings.
Jesus was arrogant. His claims were outrageous. He wasn't a humble man. But then he goes and rises from the dead. If it wasn't for that, I would be disgusted by such a man.
"But I say!" The LIVING WORD CHRIST in us has authority over the written word. In Jesus's time the Hebrew scriptures, in our time the Bible. Solar Scriptura has been the reason for so little transformation of the world. Christian religion and morality yes, but no realisation of who we truly are. The oneness of our humanity and divinity. See Galatians 1/16 If not full filed in this age than certainly in the Age to come. Check out ORTHODOX's good news ref. APOKATASTASIS!
I do believe that a deep affection for the Scripture has changed society. I grew up evangelical and I can testify to that the fact that sola scriptura and the belief there in led people to seek after the Truth better than anything else. However, it’s impossible to separate the Scriptures from tradition. Jesus said seek and you shall find (mt. 7) and the Bible declares the truth will set you free (Jn 8:32). Truth is objective over our subjective experience. I believe, it betters our subjective truth. Objective Truth isn’t hard but liberating. It’s the very thing so many other religion try to obtain in subjective religious adherence.
jesus was God in human form, the Avatar of His age. Mohammed was God and Avatar of His age; that was then, this now! Meher Baba is the Avatar of this age. GOD IS. God cares for only one thing -LOVE , the One who loves you more than you could ever love your self, The only place you can find God is in your heart. If you look in there and can't find Him, it is because there are too. too many strangers there, so God hides. Don't forget, God has an eternity to wait for you, it's why you exist
Without the Jewish scripture the gospel's are no good. The Catholic church past treatment of the perfidious jew and God killers just proves their hypocrisy and double standards.
1. What is wrong with the Second Vatican Council? The Second Vatican Council taught doctrines which had been already condemned by the Church, and enacted disciplines which are contrary to the Church's teaching and constant practice. 2. What doctrines did it teach which were already condemned? There are four major errors concerning: (1) the unity of the Church; (2) ecumenism; (3) religious liberty; (4) collegiality. 3. What false doctrine does it teach concerning the unity of the Church? Vatican II teaches heresy concerning the unity of the Church, namely that the Church of Christ is not exclusively identified with the Catholic Church, but merely subsists in it. This heretical doctrine is contained principally in Lumen Gentium, and its heretical meaning is confirmed in statements of Paul VI and his successors, particularly in the 1983 Code of Canon Law, in the 1992 Statement concerning Church and Communion, and in the Ecumenical Directory. It is contrary to the teaching of the Catholic Church, contained principally in Satis Cognitum of Pope Leo XIII, Mortalium Animos of Pope Pius XI, Mystici Corporis of Pope Pius XII, and in the condemnations of the "Branch Theory" made by the Holy Office under Pope Pius IX. 4. What false doctrine does it teach concerning ecumenism? The teaching of Vatican II concerning ecumenism, which states that non-Catholic religions are a "means of salvation," is overtly heretical. This doctrine directly contradicts the teaching of the Church that there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church, called by Pope Pius IX "a most well-known Catholic dogma." In addition, the ecumenical practices which have resulted from this heretical doctrine are directly contrary to Mortalium Animos of Pope Pius XI. 5. What false doctrine does it teach concerning religious liberty? The teaching of Vatican II on religious liberty, contained in Dignitatis Humanae, nearly word for word asserts the very doctrine which was condemned by Pope Pius VII in Post Tam Diuturnas, by Pope Gregory XVI in Mirari Vos, by Pope Pius IX in Quanta Cura, and by Pope Leo XIII in Libertas Praestantissimum. The teaching of Vatican II on religious liberty also contradicts the royalty of Jesus Christ in society as expressed in Quas Primas of Pope Pius XI, and the constant attitude and practice of the Church with regard to civil society. 6. What false doctrine does it teach concerning collegiality? The teaching of Vatican II concerning collegiality alters the monarchical constitution of the Catholic Church, with which she was endowed by the Divine Savior. The doctrine of Vatican II, confirmed by the 1983 Code of Canon Law, which states that the subject (the possessor) of the supreme authority of the Church is the college of bishops together with the pope, is contrary to the defined doctrine of the Council of Florence and of Vatican I. 7. What is wrong with the disciplines which have emanated from Vatican II? The 1983 Code of Canon Law contains the heresy of Vatican II concerning the Church, mentioned above. It also permits sacrilege to the Blessed Sacrament, by approving of its reception by non-Catholics, which is a mortal sin, and permits communicatio in sacris (common public worship) with non-Catholics, which is a mortal sin. In addition, the Ecumenical Directory of 1993 permits ecumenical practices which have always been taught by the Church to be mortally sinful.
Nonsense. Jesus is the the son of God. He is not God. Who did Jesus pray to? "I am the way, the truth, and the life, NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER, except through me.
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1. Did Jesus exist? If he didn't, how do you explain all the Jesus-believing communities that sprang up in the Galilee in the middle of the first century? 2. Why do people thing Jesus was a god? They didn't at first. The people who knew him and were devoted to him thought he was their long-awaited messiah. No one thought he was a divine being. That idea arose decades after he had been killed in 30 CE. 3. What was a messiah thought to be 2,000 years ago? A man descended from the line of David and had been selected by Yahweh to sweep away Satan and all evil from the world, set up a new Garden of Eden for the righteous, and rule the world for 1,000 years as the King of Israel. 4. Did other people claim to be the messiah? Yes, plenty. And those who were caught doing it were also crucified. 5. Why did Rome crucify the messiahs? Only the Emperor or the Roman Senate appointed kings within their great empire. Claiming you were the King of Israel was about as serious a crime as you could commit in those days. 6. But why not just chop their heads off? Crucifixion had two features that made it a good execution method. First, it was an extraordinarily painful and drawn-out way to die. No one wanted that. Second, the victim became a very public advertisement. The executioners didn't remove the body once it had died. They left it up there until it fell apart. Jesus wasn't the messiah. He just thought he was. A gigantic religion sprouted up on the basis of wishful thinking.
Yes, definitely a logical possibility. I think the good bishop’s bifurcated decision tree (god or bad man) assumes that possibility away. He also assumes Jesus made the claim to begin with. A lot of logical leaps are required to validate matters of faith.
Waste of time talking about a human god, if there's a human god then there has to be an elephant God, if there's a Jewish God then there has to be a different God in each country.
@@tjseaney_ I took as my axiom that God isn't prejudicced against other people and animals, and life on other planets potentially. Though I have no reason to suppose that he is all good, and much evidence that he is flawed in his actions.
@@Rusty69-er yes quite so, there are life lessons regardless of whether the story is true. Functionally, it works much better as a work of fiction that imparts life lessons, but if you believe it literally it becomes deeply immoral. It is symbolic, not literal in its meaning. In fact, the literal can never have meaning because facts are completely empty, it is only inside our selves that we fins meaning, not outside or in stories.
1. First of all his name never been ‘Jesus’. 2. If the he was a word, well the word belongs to devil too. 3. If ever he is back, you all will become unemployed. 4. Paul. Who is he. His name never been Paul. 5. You are talking about different people. 6. It wasn’t Buddha who said I am the way. This belongs to the founder of Taoism.