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Catholic Priest VERSUS Evangelical Pastor | WHO GOD IS | Bishop Barron | John Piper (Trinity answer) 

TJ Seaney
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In this video, I offer two short clips of a catholic priest and a protestant pastor explaining the Trinity. I then provide an analysis of the differences and similarities.
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@gooiehoop20
@gooiehoop20 Месяц назад
Excellent summary. Thank you. In my personal Christian walk, I have gone through a lot of theology. In my experience, preaching Christianity can be acceptable across denominations. However, the difficulty arises when a denomination's specific theology is preached. John Piper sometimes preaches Calvinism. My pastor, who is a Calvinist, preaches Christianity. He can talk about Calvinist views when speaking one-on-one. I feel comfortable in this "Calvinist" congregation, because the congregation reflects Christianity, seeking a walk with Christ, in the Holy Spirit, under Father God. I regularly listen to Catholic priests. However, I have a huge problem with the Catholic Church as an institution. The Pope has said he does not "believe in a Catholic God." If Pope Francis doesn't respect the Bible, maybe he should read Thomas Aquinas. The Pope is deviating from the 2,000-year-old teaching and tradition. He is embracing the very ideology that Pope Pius IX warned about, as did Popes Leo XIII, Pius X, Pius XI, and Pius XII. These Popes embraced Catholicism. I also find very disturbing, Lumen Gentium, especially section 16. That said, I have great respect for true Catholics.
@shikyokira3065
@shikyokira3065 Месяц назад
I heard there are many catholic churches that have "severed ties" with The Church, due to many reasons this included, following the footsteps of early protestants
@Durziage
@Durziage Месяц назад
I could pretty much guarantee you that Pope Francis has read a lot of Aquinas, and perhaps even in the original Latin
@joolz5747
@joolz5747 Месяц назад
What about the Greek orthodox church? You have a different thought process on Trinity? I think this is great for us to figure out and try to understand but it still is a mystery. I don’t think God cares if we totally understand it because he knows that our minds are not even close to his. So as long as we love Jesus in my opinion, and the Father and Holy Spirit… That is what he wants. Understanding is not the crucial part, but believing and obeying his.
@GregoryJByrne
@GregoryJByrne Месяц назад
god is reality
@BarrySometimes
@BarrySometimes Месяц назад
Atheist here. I’m in need of education re’ the authoritative structure of catholicism. Does catholicism not consider the pope to be the authority in which you would resort to for God’s definition? Does the pope agree with Barron? If Barron has a different definition than the pope, does that mean catholicism considers Barron heretic?
@gooiehoop20
@gooiehoop20 Месяц назад
The Pope with some exceptions, is a fallible human being. It is acceptable to say what Catholic teaching and tradition say, even if it goes against the Pope's views. Bishop Barron is actually more Catholic than the Pope.
@rosiegirl2485
@rosiegirl2485 Месяц назад
Hello Barry, I could not tell you if Bishop Barron and Pope Francis agree with this definition. What I can tell you is that Catholics have the free liberty of disagreeing with the Pope, respectfully on any given day. The only time that you can not disagree is when the Pope speaks Authoritatively from the Chair of Peter. For 2,000 years, Pope's, in union with all the Bishops, which is the Magesterium, have been teaching infallible truths, that are Divinely revealed revelation that is protected by the Holy Spirit. People assume that the Pope is always infallible, and this is just not true. I can also say that Bishop Barron is a faithful teacher of the truthes of the Catholic Church.
@DavidLarson100
@DavidLarson100 Месяц назад
No, as a Catholic, that's not really a good way of thinking about it. It's not like you pick a guy as pope, and then that guy gets to just redefine everything. The Catholic Church has something called the Magisterium, which is the authority of the Church over time. That does include the current pope and all the collective bishops, but it's rare for a pope or a church council to declare a new dogma or doctrine. If the pope just started declaring official dogmas that disagreed with current developed dogmas, then that would kind of disprove the Church as a stable teaching authority.
@carlosojeda7257
@carlosojeda7257 Месяц назад
Trent Horn has pretty good explanations of the Catholic Church take on authority. Scripture, magisterium and tradition.
@repealthepatriotact
@repealthepatriotact Месяц назад
You don't really need an education. It's all been proven to be made up madness designed to control society by manipulating the minds of the illiterate masses. We are in the age of literacy and reason though, so the church is starting to die, and this youngest generation is refusing to get involved with religion in record numbers. We are finally going to be free of that cancer.
@zeroonetime
@zeroonetime Месяц назад
Time / God Timing universe
@anabellesabangan7565
@anabellesabangan7565 Месяц назад
The Sovereign One. God of great mercy and a God of great justice and wrath. Someone who we can never talk back or ask "why?", because He can do whatever He wants, in heaven or in earth.
@repealthepatriotact
@repealthepatriotact Месяц назад
Nope. There are rules that even he has to follow. I know, I work in the spirit world as a healer and to interact in other situations. Religious leaders have gotten the concept of God so wrong because they rely on the opinions and stories of the authors in the Bible instead of going inwards and experiencing their own connection through their soul, which is a portal to God's consciousness. Bizarrely, the Bible even tells people to look there, but the church leaders always prohibit that.
@richyburnett
@richyburnett Месяц назад
@@repealthepatriotact sounds demonic
@repealthepatriotact
@repealthepatriotact Месяц назад
@@richyburnett Finding the truth of God through your connection to him within your own heart instead of what some cult leader is reading from the Bible is demonic?
@rsissel1
@rsissel1 Месяц назад
Do a real interaction, please
@suleimanallison7680
@suleimanallison7680 Месяц назад
Why is God as a person so difficult to explain..the two are so philosophical.
@repealthepatriotact
@repealthepatriotact Месяц назад
He's really not. He was an all-powerful ball of pure bright white light that took the dark(negatively) charged energy within him and created a reality of duality that seeks to return to balance as every being he created below him worked as higher dimension administrators and lower world inhabitants so he could learn and experience freewill and life as they did. He does not answer prayers, the guides you have with you do, and your higher-self monitors and guides you as well. He also nothing to do with religion-that was created by and is maintained by man, but it is a vehicle of freewill, which even he is not allowed to interfere with. I know, as do so many others here now, because we have been interacting directly with the spirit world and have been provided many answers during our healing work in the light and other work in the higher planes. And we have no religious beliefs, we know too much, we just have an understanding of how things work and interact with it as needed.
@NandKumar-qq3xk
@NandKumar-qq3xk Месяц назад
Wishings and fulfilment or lossing, and ours wishings and feelings is not matarial looking form not butt imaginations of wishings and it is vision of elements of wishings energy and heaving capability to fullfill in vision forme and so wee have figure before making any visibable as clay statue iff licks and wee heaving it's prepration for essentials" after heaving a proper result" butt frome invisual to visual existance into convert after are wee and surroundings" and once wee heavings ours secondry process of imeginations and preprations for material counstructions for preprations of ours projects" Butt only can Produce any things frome wee calling nothings butt in his vissions have every things in vaccume or empty space" and wee can't do abble to creat something frome nothings and wee are must created by any existance frome nothings to universe and wee every one with ours needed everything thats needee are wee every one equaly " and only wee can create anythings after wee have material lick somethings" so God's sons are have capacity only recreat once frome preexisting raw materials frome new things and it is ours livings charecter as sons of Creator" and doings his charecter way as new creations and once new toward" must have Right direction in Empty Space in limitless vaccume call deep space as address of your Galaxis if you are space travelors through limitless fule in your Spacecraft liked" call inter space Ziroscope that is Basic address of ours livings address must for indicate new universe to his addres direction behinds of multy Galaxys" God = Ziroscope" wee Space travlers iff" spred your merits to the ? Distant universe " or want distroying yours livings basic Base of healthy land and to the deepp universe masses your charecter is ? Selfe distroying antity ? Or another will shoot dawn your spacecrafft frome distant,
@joshuaschneider2563
@joshuaschneider2563 Месяц назад
The blind talking to the blind. Both worship a man as a god. G-d is not a man nor can anyone intercede for him. He is the first and the last and there is no other. We can only understand the attributes of G-d hence the many names of G-d . His names explains his essence. We can never truly comprehend G-d. those who tell you otherwise are false teachers.
@italophile2011
@italophile2011 Месяц назад
Agree. As Christ said, the blind leading the blind. The trinity is expressed but not explained in the creation of all things in chapter one of Genesis. Then there is Abraham's, Jacob's and Moses' encounters with God. These should be read and heard with the ear, not some academic modern minds. Then there is St. Basil the Great on the Trinity. Modern people should not attempt to talk about God without deeply absorbing these sources and living a life of doing good toward those in need (and I don't mean just material need) and solving some problems. In entering the suffering of others do we encounter Christ just as he taught.
@carlosojeda7257
@carlosojeda7257 Месяц назад
Well. Jesus was truly man and truly God. Not sure what the point of your comment?
@repealthepatriotact
@repealthepatriotact Месяц назад
No one can speak for God or write a book in his name. Meditation is the only way to receive the truth, which is why the Buddhists are the epitome of what other religions preach, but don't practice. I'm not saying that Buddhism is the true religion at all, just that they know the secret to truth is within us, and has always been.
@carlosojeda7257
@carlosojeda7257 Месяц назад
@@repealthepatriotact why not?
@repealthepatriotact
@repealthepatriotact Месяц назад
@@carlosojeda7257 Why not what? Why keep listening to a bunch of guys in a building telling you what to believe instead of getting the answers within yourself? Maybe because.....you love being a mindless puppet who doesn't want to think for himself? That's on you, but I have no interest in giving my mind and power to some insane religious group without question.
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