Another great video. As for the re-recordings, they’re interesting to hear but yeah they’re definitely not as good as the originals. I agree about that garbage when they changed the lyrics of Antichrist to Anticop. That was complete crap.
I can't stand that Anticop song. I hate when bands try to distance themselves from their past especially things that have occult leanings. Just own it!
I always enjoy hearing your thoughts on music Dennis… & when I first heard they were re doing these 2 albums… my heart sank! I really struggle with the polished modern production sound of some of the new Death Metal bands nowadays… not the old school sounding bands… but the modern style that almost doesn’t even sound like Death Metal… to me anyway!! A p*ss poor rough & raw production is okay with me… as like you… I wanna hear the enthusiasm & the naivety in the playing… the pure passion for what they have created! ‘Old School is the Best School’ brother!🤘🏻
You said it all right there Marc. Death Metal comes from the gut not the wankery or the soundboard, just hook up the boombox and hit record!!! Hahaha. Old School shit!!
Totaly agree about what you said, that when you like the album you should get it and not just talk about it how much you like it. Great video, will get those releases. I did liked what i hear on you tube. Those old recording are still timeless, thats true . Not possible to get better but i did like the new recordings.
Excellent review man. You’ve touched a topic nobody else has. Redoing it does take away from the original and from the legacy as a whole. Just like Texas chainsaw massacre remakes. I like the new recordings but I think they’re unnecessary.
I do agree with you on showing what you got and not a picture. And support bands with money and not just words...... There is no way I'm paying that for those Cavalera album. I have listen to them, and they sound good, but they do not sound right. You can not re-record the feeling the originals have. Great video Dennis.
Cool video i got original and Then got Gold CD with MV BD on the same disc killer sound 98 last wk i went to Villiage in NYC got both recordings promotional copies for $15 could not beat the price or pass it up. Sound is Awesome 👍👍 amazing
I hear you on Morbid Visions- the original had this black metal/thrash vibe. New one has more of a beefy death thrash feel. I hear they're going to redo Beneath the Remains, which might be interesting?
That's crazy, why re do BTR it already has a beefy thrash sound to it that is essential for the time it came out, oh well maybe I just don't get it. Cheers
I first heard Sepultura when they released BTR and soon after I got their earlier albums, which I knew were going to be lo-fi but I don't mind that, but I always think with lo-fi recordings, "how would they sound with better production". So, I always look forward to hearing albums that have been remastered, remixed or re-recorded, sometimes I like the newer versions and sometimes I prefer the originals and sometimes I can't hear any difference. With theses re-recordings I'm completely blown away, they are so brutal and dark compared to the originals, they fit in perfectly with the energy that is felt on Schizo and Remains(my two favourite Sep albums, joint first). I still love the originals, but I can't remember ever playing them through more than once, with these re-recordings they are being played back all day long, and I prefer the new artwork too, kinda like the artwork of Phil Lawvere, Kreator, Deathrow, Celtic Frost artist. Good to hear your opinion and all the comments. I stopped following Sepultura when they released Chaos AD, I was already disappointed with Arise when it was released and Chaos AD was to much for me. I got to see them on Arise and Chaos AD tours and they were the loudest band I have ever heard.
Cool man glad you dig them! I think I just have a deep connection with the evil raw sound of the originals that I don't want to hear them sound like something new and I feel Max's voice just doesn't compare to original recordings at all, but hey just me, thanks for chiming in man def appreciate the discussion!
This review went exactly how I expected! I listened to the track online and was more impressed than I was expecting to be, but it's like any modern thrash for me. Too clean, too clinical, lost its raw edge. That Testament "First Strike Still Deadly" re-recording of the first couple albums comp is a good example of making things worse. And it's pretty lame that it had to be two releases. Make a 2LP. Obviously the people that want these will buy both, so that supports the cash-grab theory.
Yea Simon at least give the fans both records in one release, if NWN can do it for cheaper with more bells and whistles per release you can see that this is just to get metalheads to fork over a ton of money for basically a cover band at this point , Cheers
What is ridiculous is waiting 30 years to redo an album. Especially when you consider that 30 years prior to the release of the Black Sabbath debut there was no Rock music in existence. If people don't like rough quality early Black, Death, and Thrash Metal albums then no one needs to listen to it. It makes about as much sense as some 1940 Big band swing group re recording their albums in the 1970s . The whole point of Destruction, Sodom, Hellhammer, and Sepultura was the rough quality production. If someone prefers the cleaner styles of Extreme Metal they can listen to modern Death and Thrash Metal
How about they just reissue the first 2 records like normal bands should. Silly that they decided to go for this instead. But if people like it, good for them.
I have not listened to them yet, but I think if you don't have special relationship with an older record, and have not listened that much to old stuff with gritty production, re-recordings is awesome for them. I can't think of a single re-recording that has worked for me with stuff I already heard before, except for The Final Massacre by Vader on Litany, it's the best version. Necrodeath's re-recording of Fragments of Insanity (called Defragments of Insanity) was the first version I heard, did not realize it was a re-recording until a couple of years later and when I heard the original it's kind of weak, so I definitly prefer the re-recording, but I bet people who liked the original does not like the re-recording. Cheers!
Yea dude exactly, I didn't like or think the re recording of Fragments was needed at all, such a killer record though, totally forgot about that one. Cheers
Hi Dennis!!! so cool to hear your thoughts about this "new release" and compare it with other reviews maybe done by guys who don't have the same history or attachment you have with the orginal recordings. I also don't like when band do this cash grab, of course it's going to sound different, newer and better instruments, record studios, technincs and in most cases different musicians and that's the key element, you can't expect another guy to replicate a sound, that's impossible to do..... and finally the prices!!! i would have been much "honest" to the fan to release it as a double disc. cheers and be well
I thought their amazing re-recordings. But nothing beats the OGs usually. Everything is a cash grab for bands, especially at the stage Max and Igor are in. Collectors will buy it. I bought them. Cheers
The track I listened to was pretty good, do I need to buy them no. I'm happy with the originals and what little money I have won't be going on rerecordings when I own the originals that I already like. Great views on these look forward to hopefully seeing more reviews in the future 🤘🏻
Exactly it's just like a novelty item that people especially metal heads pick up without really thinking long term and if they're ever really gonna have that much replay value. More reviews coming , although I have a different agenda for it while keeping it OG! Cheers
The original is always going to be superior, but I've been enjoying them. I just listen to them as seperate albums if that makes sense? Totally agree about Chaos A.D, I like Roots though. Fuck yeah regarding your thoughts in Evil Dead and Texas Chainsaw Massacre as well. However, I prefer the reduxed Bonded By Blood though...... The prices of them is indeed ridiculous, I just bought the cds. As usual, an honest critique on things. Great video! You should check out some of the Derrick Greene era Sepultura. Well worth a listen.
Ohh man Chaos AD has not aged well for me, hahah, Never liked Roots so .. Just quit fucking with original recording and remakes , just do something original and give something to the fans that have been listening for years,
Agree with everything to said, definitely Tour both but to re-record when you’re in your 50’s is not gonna be anything like your Teens. To be fair I’ve never heard Soulfly or anything with Derrick Greene but it’s an nostalgia thing with music. Bands just need to leave alone unless it’s for fans like the Cast in Stone by Venom as you say. Really enjoyed your take and passion. Take care my friend.
Yea Eli it's one thing if you just add it on to some new songs are even a live record but this is just a cash grab by Nuclear Blast to support the shows and at ridiculous prices at that. Really kinda tarnish's the Sepultura legacy and I wonder what Jairo thinks as he played guitar on both?
@@analogarchives 🤣🤣🤣. You keep getting me mixed up with Eli, very similar channel names and he’s a cooler guy than me. It’s Gordon from Belfast. Take care mate.
@@analogarchives as far as Voivod, don’t really think you’ve mentioned them, or I just ain’t notice yet. They did a re-recording too. Same, none, any interest in it and Voivod in general?
@@analogarchives it’s called the “Morgoth Tales” and what they did is take one or two tracks from the each of the albums. What I guess makes this one a little different, it’s Chewy doing Piggy’s awesome guitar work. Just just came out. Friday.
I agree with basically everything you said, especially your points about the re-recording actually taking away from the historical importance of the original, the overpricing, and the fact they could (should) have just recorded something in a similar style instead. Coming from the perspective of someone who wasn’t even around until a decade or so after these were released, I’m super glad to have heard the originals first. I was lucky enough to score the 2-on-1 CD version at a yard sale for 25 cents about 10 or 12 years ago and definitely wasn’t ready for it at the time. I had just barely started getting into stuff like Sepultura and Slayer at that point and it was just too raw and intense for me, but over the last few years I’ve really come to appreciate it for what it is. Like you said, the weird guitar tone and the sloppiness gives it a lot of charm and that is completely missing with the new version, it’s like all the life and energy is sucked out of it. I especially miss the youthful anger and intensity of Max’s vocals from the original, he doesn’t sound bad now but there’s just kind of a lack of passion and attitude. Anyway great video as always man, thanks for all the quality content. Cheers 🤘🤘
I generally don't like re-recording because a lot of them just straight miss the mark. But I would suggest Voivod Morgoth Tales which came out recently because it's Voivod and their badass Also one that surprised me the most is Sodom 40years at war is really damn good.
I like the new recordings but I'd rather spend that kind of money on something I don't already have. Preferably an original press or something obscure that rarely hits Discogs.
Ya , I kinda now give them a pass as they were just trying to get the rights back to the records after SEP disbanded, although I think they should have just given the fans a free dl or something.
Thanks for doing this review. Honesty I haven't listened to this at all, sounds like I don't need to. Releasing 55 minutes of music on two separate releases is a scumbag decision too. I'm not opposed to rerecordings, I actually like Vader's rerecording of The Ultimate Incantation better than the original, but I don't feel these albums can be improved. Cheers Dennis!
You nailed it. For the people who say those two recordings are unlistenable they just don't get it. You hear young lions creating historical moment of dark and aggressive music. This is not that. However what really annoys me is the HM2 guitar sound. Not the spirit on those records
The originals were so badly played and recorded to render them almost unlistenable. I certainly never rated them but these re-recorded versions really bring the songs to life and compared to most of the junk masquerading as metal nowadays these releases are a beacon in the dark. The question for me is if songs that are nearly 40 years old comprehensively destroy everything coming out today then what future is there for metal.
@@pathologist..23how’s it going with Roots? If you like that then you probably like coal chamber, korn etc. It would explain the stupidity of your comment.
Hey Dennis. Good review, I agree nothing can bite like the originals. Wasn't the new art done by Eliran Kantor? Agreed its uninspired. Anyway nothing beats the original "Morbid Visions" & "Bestial Devastation" artwork done by Silvio from the mighty Chakal (hiding it from his religious Xian parents) And the vokills of skinny teenager Max shreds the shite out the larynx of fatcore 2020s Max. Still I enjoyed it soundwise and appreciate they kept the riffs and structure of the original but yeah very likely a cash-grab. I will try buy it but not for that price. The reason the original Sepultura went down in 95 was a "Sharon Osborne" (whom the wife/manager had become friends with) attempted Coup over the payments of the other band members that failed bad. Anyway by then both Seps and Soulfly were treading in mud. Also their gatekeeping of any other Brazilian metal bands was always something that disgusted me - sad really. I'd always promote my countrymen but not these guys. PS- the positive side, I've always seen people downplay the early records, at least with this they can understand the genius behind those classics
Honestly I just more people discover the originals from this and hear what classics they are and were at the time.Just pure evil sounding death metal man, soo damn unpretentcios and genuine.
@@analogarchives I remember in the 90s some dude was I talking to on mIRC channel about playing the cover of "Show Me the Wrath" and the fekker was totally dismissive as if it was playgrade metal. Yes its primitive I tell you that song gives serious hand arthritis after a few minutes ahah. To me early Sepultura was along with Possessed & Hellhammer the original faces of death metal to reach the LP format. They took German early thrash & Possessed/Venom & made it more evil. Not even the S/T Bathory or "The Return" came close at the blacken death power the B.H. "Cogumelo" Boyz summoned.
Every re recording I’ve ever herd has been a lot worse than the original so not gonna even bother listening to this one. The 80s “raw” production adds to the experience so when these old albums sound super modern it looses all of the charm.
Yea dude it's not worth it for sure, it honestly just takes away the from the legacy of the bands imo. especially because the way it sounds is a huge reason it's such a great record in the first place. Cheers Devon!
my question is : how come they re-record something they spit on for years? They deny the lyrics, the music and concept of that albums becoming a nu fucking metal band. I listened to morbid vision, the song, and i had enough. The feeling of that records in unreachable and its useless to re-record some classics. Cheers man!
Exactly dude, they just have nothing left in the tank to even write a record like Morbid nowadays so they took the easy way out and re recorded it, blah. Oh well I guees they will probably do Beneath next is what I'm hearing, waste of time, yet still people keep buying this shit and I really don't know why. Cheers!
If I’m going to watch a review on anything oldschool your the man Dennis. I’ve heard 1 song ( teaser ), it was ok. But this is how I see it. I already own the original and because I have so much old school originals I still need and want I’m not going to put my money into something RE DONE. The original didn’t need to be touched so I’ll pass. May listen to it one day. But as a collector of the old school I prefer to save and spend my money on the era that paved the way. It’s rare I’ll even touch a repress as I see it as I’ll wait for the slight chance I’ll stumble across it at a bargain price ( original ) or I just missed out and I’m sure I’ll find another gem along my travels. 80’s 90’s is where it’s at for me and it takes a lot to have me spend my money on anything new and this release won’t be one of them. But really appreciate you doing a review as it gave me a good understanding of what I’ll be in for if I finally give it a full listen. Until then crank up some original Morbid Visions and appreciate it for all that it is and the time it came out. It’s that nostalgia that hits home the best. Not everything needs to be polished. Cheers and thanks for the review maniac 🍻
A man after my own heart! haha Too many underrated classics to spend money on than a re recorded record that you already have. The sound is okay especially the EP but it just doesn't need to exist and unfortunately kids just hearing it will think it's either new material or think this is how it's supposed to sound and never even check out the original which is shame. Cheers!
I’ve got the OG 12”s and CDs and pretty sure the tapes too. That’s the sound I adore. But I won’t lie, from what I’ve heard (which isn’t much), I wasn’t too put off by the new stuff. If I’m out and about and I see the CDs in the wild, I’ll probably get them. But agree with how Destruction (and Exodus) totally fuckin ruined those songs when they “re-recorded” those albums. Modem production is shit. I hope they bring that tour to Australia. I went the BTR / Arise thing they did. It’s was fuckin excellent. Would really dig hearing these two releases in a live setting.
Yea I'm def gonna try to check them out on this tour as it's two of my favorite releases but I just can't stand bands that take advantage of the fans and the underground by putting these on seperate releases for crazy $$. They could have released these in a more value friendly way that weren't just cover songs.
Thank you Dennis. Finally someone who shares my opinion on these. I am a big Sepultura fan out there. I own their whole catalog, I also own all of Soulfly and Cavalera Conspiracy as well. So I obviously do like the later output from both bands. However those first 5 Sepultura releases are untouchable for me. Chaos AD is pretty close as well. I totally see your point of view. I completely get why you aren’t into a lot of that later metal sound. I respect that. I am however right there with you on these re records. Completely utterly pointless. The originals are perfect. One thing too is these two releases are one of the main foundations for extreme South American metal. I absolutely worship that stuff. It has it’s own sound that is more evil and savage than pretty much any other material from any other region of the world, at least to me. For example Sarcofago’s INRI just stomps over any of the wave two Norwegian black metal albums ever produced but that’s just my opinion. Those early South American bands didn’t have expensive instruments or higher end production so they made up for it with their pure passion and rawness and it feels and sounds so genuine. It’s on par with that early German stuff that came just a year or two before it. Sepultura was my gateway to all that South American stuff. Parabellum from Colombia, Pentagram from Chile. Were right there with Sepultura but even more obscure. I didn’t discover them however until much later. But bands like Sarcofago, Vulcano, Holocausto, Sex Trash, Taurus, Dorsal Atlantica, Korzus, Panic, Chakal, Mystifier, Expulser, Acid Storm, Insulter etc etc. Bestial Devastation and Morbid Visions led the whole Brazilian pack. For me to re record those two releases is almost a slap in the face to that early South American sound. They basically sound like a new band trying to sound like an old band having superior tools but missing that authenticity. Keep in my you are probably aware but a lot of people may not be that there are a ton of new or newer South American bands that still sound like they could have come out of 1984 through 1988. Esquizofrenia from Colombia are the best early Sepultura sounding band out there. They got it nailed. They sing completely in Spanish though which honestly I always prefer those bands to sing in Portuguese or Spanish or broken English because it just adds to the heaviness and intensity. Perversor from Chile is another one. They would be more of an early Sarcofago. Witchtrap also from Colombia nails that early 80s speed metal sound. If you haven’t I really recommend you check out some of the newer South American bands out. I think a true OG like yourself would find some newer stuff you’d dig. Here’s my last point if these recordings had been live I would have had a lot less of a problem with it. But people PLEASE if you like these new recordings and haven’t heard the Troops of Doom from Brazil. Do so!! Right now! They are Jario Gudez’s band. You know, the original guitar player from Sepultura that was on the original recordings. He also was in the killer band the Mist. He covered just a few of the tracks from the originals and did a ton of actual original new songs. They are killer. They have a bit of that newer production but they are well? Original! New! Not all covers and in my opinion still have that South American passion and intensity. Thanks for the review Dennis you said pretty much everything that needed to be said about these remakes.
Killer comment my man!! Yep those early Brazilian bands were so spontaneous sounding and had a real edge to the music that made it sound evil and you kinda didn't know where it was going. Love Troops and The Mist, wonder what he thinks of these recordings hope he''s getting some royalties from it!! Cheers man
Suicidal Tendencies burned me back in '93 with that lame re-recording of the first album. I bought it (because I love that first LP), listened to it once (HATED IT WITH A PASSION), and immediately traded it to a friend. Since then, I don't buy or listen to re-recordings - a total waste to these ears!
