CAWL UNVEILS THE PRIMARIS TO GUILLIMAN!

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Hi all Wolf Lord Rho here!
Today we discuss the events of Belisarius Cawl completing his Primaris Project... can he be trusted? Is he truly loyal to the Primarch Roboute Guilliman?
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@joshuadarrow 4 года назад

Cawl: I too am extraordinarily humble.

@fshn4x4 3 года назад

The humblest humbler who ever humbled.

@JD-td6oh 3 года назад

Hilarious

@songhan1586 2 года назад

he is a genius considering the state of the emperium, one of the few hopes in a age of stagnation

@tyguy6296 4 года назад

Cawl: "BEHOLD MY GENIUS! THE FRUITS OF 10000 YEARS OF INNOVATION!" Guilliman: "...cool"

@bgcvetan 3 года назад

That's far more than most. Given that he called the Ultramarines - strangers

@NinthRomance 3 года назад

@Ruosong Gao lol yeah pretty much xD

@lolbots686 2 года назад

Cawl:so uh...hm. Gman:cawl what the fuck happened since i was asleep? Cawl:ok so thats a lonnng story but remember lorgar? Gman:who doesnt remember that fuckwit,what about it? Cawl:well because of his holy book... all this shit happened. And other shit. Gman: that...ok that makes sense. ... aside me anyone from the crusade or heresy alive? Cawl:i mean aside bjorn? I dunno actually,well that and probably the fallen Gman:fallen? Cawl:well aparently the dark angels got themselves scared shitless the 1st legion had traitors. And said "traitors" are back sort of Gman:wait how would that-ohhhhhh. ...that makes more sense in that context actually. Evidently enough when i tried giving the dark angels there primaris they were being really jumpy it was really strange

@kennethbedwell5188 4 года назад

Gulliman: "No Cawl, I am not making you Fabricator General.," Cawl: "Primus, notify the legions, execute order 66"

@Duke_of_Petchington 4 года назад

In some ways it might benefit the Ad Mech if he was, tech wouldn’t stagnate and start to improve.

@Yanra_Gold 4 года назад

My God it could be an amazing story!

@pokeric 4 года назад

Holy moly that’s a great idea. And with them giving love to old marines again it could work.

@brandonhughes4571 4 года назад

The Luna wolves of the terrain imperial guard regiment and 3 company's of the dark angels and nightlords stand with the imperium of man for terra and imperium death to the traitors

@DocMadfox 4 года назад

He actually doesn't want to be the Fabricator General and is amused his Minor has been bugging Guilliman about it. It's great.

@thewayfarer8849 4 года назад

"You know I hate to brag to a demigod, but-" How I imagine most of Cawl's conversations start

@Dannymiles1987 4 года назад

Thing is. Gulliman is a demigod himself.

@soffren Год назад

@@Dannymiles1987I believe that is who Cawl is usually bragging to

@Kat1kafka 4 года назад

guilliman:are they better than the custodes? cawl:lol...no

@BroadHobbyProjects 4 года назад

*Guilliman does the meme Portuguese guys laugh* lol

@LordInter 4 года назад

custodes could hold there own with primarchs girlyman 😜

@nevanoconnell3356 4 года назад

kat what is

@connorbaird8596 4 года назад

@@nahyeahwhatsahandle Eh they kinda can actually. Depends on the Custode.

@Mornomgir 4 года назад

cawl: they always were

@solortus 3 года назад

Considering how Cawl ressurected a primarch and made the primaris marines then I think his self praise is well deserved.

@FormerGovernmentHuman Год назад

He’s the only reason the Imperium has a chance right now.

@soffren Год назад

Alpha Primus wasn't resurrected, he was created. In that scene with the mirrors Cawl says "don't look at your other reflections" and Alpha does anyway, and he sees one Cawl with 20 versions of him, and realizes he's a chimera made from all 20 Primarchs DNA.

@zhangtony6307 25 дней назад

@@soffrenthe resurrected primary refers to guiliman. Cawl ‘saved’ him by building the armour of fate which allows guiliman to survive outside of stasis

@kingnaga619 4 года назад

A lot of people shit on Belisarius and the “special snowflake marines” While I get where they are coming from, that the Emperor should never be outdone, I feel he hasn’t been. The Emperor made the space marines from literal nothing in mere centuries. Cawl, on the other hand, took 10,000+ years, 90% of the work already done to go off of, and the resources of the entire imperium at his disposal, and only came out with the Primaris, a slight improvement, and still inferior to the custodies.

@maciek8172 4 года назад

very well said

@umxmarky 4 года назад

this is a good point but it thinks it also the fact he cured the flaws which are a dick slap for some faction like the blood angels

@funtimefredboi3877 4 года назад

From nothing the Emperor studied fore millennia biology and made his perfect Custodes and his brutish thunder warriors and he got help making the Astartes from some propetiel ( i don't think this is right written) woman Altrough you seem to not know what crawl really is he is Manny people not only one because he can litterly lode them into his (brain idk) and those gets their knowledge why im bringing this up well essentially there whas a Scientist who worked with the emperor the emperor saw the future of this Scientist (absorbed by crawl) and told crawl through this Scientist what He had to do and stuff

@connorbaird8596 4 года назад

@@umxmarky He didn't, the Blood Angels still have their flaws.

@umxmarky 4 года назад

@@connorbaird8596oh which book is this in? not saying your lying just curious

@jeremybarbic6635 4 года назад

Disappointed Rho left out the part of the conversation where Guilliman said, “Ya ya ya the new army is cool and all, but what of the bigtiddy Aeldari cloning project?”

@MetaL556 4 года назад

ANYTHING Aeldari would do at this point honestly...

@coltonlong2223 3 года назад

"We have THOUSANDS, Lord Guilliman." "Thousands, you say? I'm sure you're aware the request was for BILLIONS, yes?"

@barklordofthesith2997 3 года назад

What about the droid attack on the wookies?

@boopboop2521 4 года назад

“I used the ancient art of deductive reasoning. “ - lmfaooo I love 40k sometimes

@placerdemaio 4 года назад

yea haha

@mcmarkmarkson7115 4 года назад

Isn't exactly much used these days either. Corruption and money still king.

@filiasnox1116 4 года назад

Reasoning?? it sound like some heretic ritual ,burn him! just in case.

@motmontheinternet 4 года назад

It sounds stupid but it's actually pretty accurate. Sir Francis Bacon is credited with inventing modern science and all he did was basically say "when you're talking about fact based subjects, use only facts to prove something".

@boopboop2521 4 года назад

@@motmontheinternet lol bacon

@tomashton1562 4 года назад

It feels abit like malcador and the emperors relationship is starting with call and gilliman lol

@dragonslayer515 4 года назад

Makes sense and never thought of that ha

@VojislavMoranic 4 года назад

@@nahyeahwhatsahandle Malcador is just above them all.

@PolishNomad95 4 года назад

Cawl: *spends 10,000 years being an actual scientist, with access to some of the most secret and valuable knowledge and resources in the Imperium, and creates the first examples of actual technological progress and innovation since the Heresy* 40k fandom: "NOOOOOOOO, MARY SUE! BAD WRITING! NO ONE CAN MAKE SOMETHING BETTER THAN BIG REEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!"

@Amatsaru29 4 года назад

You have perfectly summarized my brother's views on 40k and how he abandoned it entirely.

@Or_Am_I_Alpharius 4 года назад

I agree with you. It’s like a good portion of the fandom just wants stagnation of the lore. But then get irritated that it’s not progressing

@bengale9977 4 года назад

I think a lot of it has to do with his introduction which was far from great. Rather than building up in the background that Guilliman had ordered secret projects before his 'death', reports of sighting of strange armies on Mars etc etc, they kind of just went "here's this new character, oh he has created super space marines".

@TheImmoth 4 года назад

@Banyuaigo Because hw had primaris sitting in a warehouse for 10k years. Also, some of the primaris are from the era of the great crusade. So Cawl cracked in mere years and has been sitting on them for millenia for what, exactly? Primaris are kind of cool, it's the itroduction that sucked.

@LotionSoronarr 4 года назад

@Banyuaigo WTF does anything have to do with Ultramarines?

@Anton-cc7yc 4 года назад

In his book Cawl is actually confronted about his desire to become a Fabricator-General. And Cawl is almost horrified and like “WTF are you talking about, Felix? I’m a scientist and not a politician. Why the hell I would want THAT role?” Turns out “little Cawl” AI is acting behind daddy’s back.

@darkhart1275 6 месяцев назад

seriously who in their right mind would want to be InCharge/responsible for a bunch or crazy, religious tech/geeks. when he is currently high enough in rank that no one messes with him and he can do what he wants (in secret) within reason in public.

@hugoclrt 4 года назад

Belisarius "ITS NOT HERESY WHEN I DOT IT" Cawl

@nomus1172 4 месяца назад

If you think about it that’s most high ranking members of the adeptus mechanicus . It’s just that unlike an actual scientific group they don’t share their discoveries or their innovations. They constantly break rules they enforce to keep control over technology

@briharrisWarhmmer40kfan 4 года назад

Guilliman should have given Cawl the task of healing The Emperor. He surely would have come up with a solution by now

@thecommentguy9380 3 года назад

that's rich coming from a cripplingly depressed primarch

@Cottam89 3 года назад

Who knows he hasn't he give him multiple tasks equal to this

@bgcvetan 3 года назад

Have you tried rebuilding him with Cyberdongs, that usually works, does it still works ?

@epsilondelta2967 4 года назад

"It took cawl 10000 years to make new bolters and floating tanks? Not impressive." "How come primaris keep getting new stuff! Reeeee!!!!"

@NetVoyagerOne 3 года назад

"Would you like to call Cawl?" "Call a call to Cawl." "Calling Cawl."

@macshadow1150 2 года назад

Ah yes, you just reminded me about that FRICKING CLIFFHANGER!

@Wasker20233 Год назад

Its “cawling cawl”

@beastalchemistVA Год назад

"Hello-how are you- WHAT DO YOU WANT?!"

@amargwari2431 Год назад

Better Call Cawl

@MrBombermann27 Год назад

better call cawl

@KneeCapHill 4 года назад

so Cawl also had a grey army for 10k years... nice to see we are represented in the lore

@FormerGovernmentHuman Год назад

Im using this as an excuse not to paint my primaris.

@andrewostman3135 4 года назад

I like how he actually doesnt want to head the mechanicum.

@phantomwraith1984 4 года назад

Too much politics, it would get in the way of his work. It was the same with Bill Gates when he resigned as Microsoft CEO and became the CTO. He'd rather inovate and make new technology than be tied down with beurocracy

@sachinaraszkiewicz785 4 года назад

Except Cawl does make this request repeatedly, and is denied.

@andrewostman3135 4 года назад

@@sachinaraszkiewicz785 in the great work he comments to decimus that he was unaware that the cawl inferior was telling guilliman that and being in charge of the mechanicum would be a waste of his time

@sachinaraszkiewicz785 4 года назад

@@andrewostman3135 He does. I guess it's up to the readers as to which version we trust more. I personnaly find the Cawl Inferior version more in line with the hubris on display in this video. Cawl really does have an enornous ego, even though he knows to hide at least some of it. For me, it makes sense for him to reveal the scope of his ambition only in very private communication with the Regent.

@daveharrison4697 4 года назад

@@sachinaraszkiewicz785 The Cawl Inferior doesn't feel like Cawl to me. More like an AI program with Cawl's personality overlaid onto it as a user interface. Cawl seems to find it amusing to discover the Inferior is requesting Cawl be named Fabricator General, while at the same time not wanting the role as it will weigh him down with politics that in his own words, he is not suited to.

@treasurecave431 4 года назад

Came here to satiate my need for roboute guilliman lore... Need some moreeee. He is my favorite primarch regardless of what others say about him

@alphariusomegon8211 4 года назад

COURAGE AND HONOUR!

@pierceprzybyla1275 4 года назад

For all of girlyman and smurf joke Guilliman is a compelling character, he is a man of vision and pushes forward to see those visions come to fruition, sometimes for the best and sometimes for the worst.

@treasurecave431 4 года назад

@@pierceprzybyla1275 especially after his ressurection. The weight of hope placed on his shoulders being the one and only hope of mankind make him so much better

@blinkingred 4 года назад

I agree completely. Papa Smurf is best Smurf.

@mega-bustershepard5537 4 года назад

Honestly the books about him have made me come around to the blueberries even if I find Primaris...... Heresy

@Ven183 4 года назад

I think Cawl's line to Guiliman about his own sons turning to chaos is one of the most powerful line in 40k

@bgcvetan 3 года назад

Eh ? I've missed that what book ?

@Ven183 3 года назад

@@bgcvetan I believe it was in The Dark Imperium book

@dejanatanackovic909 4 года назад

Really enjoyed the video. It really was a great decision to make Cawl a "gray" character. Loyal and important to the Imperium, but also potentially dangerous. Hope we will get to see him overtaking the Mechanicus in some of the novels, which would also make him even more dangerous and influential.

@dax7574 4 года назад

I now understand why the custodes are so much on their toes right now. The custodes are loyal to the emperor and his imperium. The space marines are instead loyal to the chapter and their brothers, and now all of the sudden there are full super enhanced legions going around the galaxy, unchecked...

@warhammerbadly5973 4 года назад

Cawl actually has no ambition to be the fabricator General. In "The Great work"He is surprised to learn the Cawl Inferior keeps bringing it up to Guilliman & states he has no desire for politics. It feels like a retcon to me but maybe they'll take it somewhere.

@Penglish56 4 года назад

Idk. I think while Cawl may not have a taste for politics, he absolutely has a desire for power. If he were to be offered the position of Fabricator General I have no doubt in my mind that he would accept without hesitation.

@ironvader502 3 года назад

@@Penglish56 Na, he explained fairly well why he wouldn't want it. Cawl is fully aware that 90% of the Mechanicus hates him, and the Higher in the rank you go, the stronger that distaste get. He's fully aware that the Mechanicus would escalate into a full-scale civil war extremely quickly if it would even be rumoured that he could get the position. Additionally, he enjoys going graverobbing Tombworlds and developing new technologies, both of which he would have barely any time for if he would become Fabricator-General.

@FormerGovernmentHuman Год назад

Being Fabricator general would be pointless for him. Right now he has one boss, works his own hours, pursues projects he is passionate about with unlimited resources or regulation. I can’t think of a better position for a mad scientist to be in than that.

@michaelhowell2326 4 года назад

In my mind I picture a scene like that in "Soldier" with Kurt Russell where the old Soldiers are compared to the new ones and found wanting in every way except experience.

@phantomwraith1984 4 года назад

Good movie

@jimzo1985 4 года назад

good call mate

@guillaumeb5511 4 года назад

You mean... I'm not the only person who actually likes this movie? *sobs quietly in a corner*

@JD-td6oh 3 года назад

I don’t know why people don’t like Cawl... from this video I absolutely love him lol... I’m new to warhammer 40k but I’m a fiend for the lore. Cawl is dope

@USISpongeman 4 года назад

When Rho says 'Guy Haley' I just know what I'm about to hear will be good

@mgtowdadYouTubeSucksCoxks 4 года назад

Only in the 40k universe: "We have this thing that just might save us!"

@commieKalmarunion 4 года назад

Hahahahhahahhahha, no. Just read any news and that shit still hits in real life

@mgtowdadYouTubeSucksCoxks 4 года назад

@@commieKalmarunion example?

@commieKalmarunion 4 года назад

Global warming - we know what the science says and we know what they propose to help. But sure as shit, we dont fkn do nothing or hold the largest inflictors of the damage responsible. I get the arguments of costs, risks and so forth, but I am troubled to find the goal impossible, even with such drastic means that is necessary. It calls for a revalidation of all countries and all industries, and a reform at every level of human production and consumption

@commieKalmarunion 4 года назад

While it haven't led to civil war, there is enough concerns about future wars happening because of a lack of resources - recources that lack, because of earlier misunderstandings and current mismanagement on a global scale. And of course, we see climate deniers, pundits and people with capital interests who bar any radical attempts at doing what's needed.

@mgtowdadYouTubeSucksCoxks 4 года назад

@@commieKalmarunion Ah, I'm on that fence. I agree we change the environment. I also know the environment changes without humans. I look at it pragmatically. I think so anyway. I personally believe for us to survive the planet, we have to exploit it (not NEGATIVELY exploit it). I think human existence is simply managing that, and dying by your resistance, hesitance, or ignorance of understanding that. But the more people we get, the more we need to exploit (aka USE) the planet. Now, I HOPE we can do it in a way that doesn't force us underground, or basically end up killing, deer and eagles for example. But if my existence depends on those birds and deer dying, then that's it. But I DO agree that the more typical side of the argument on my side is denying the change to more or lesser degrees.

@gangrail 3 года назад

the irony of the codex astartes was to make sure a primarch doesnt hold such power only for the very primarch to hold the power of legions

@Jack-c 4 года назад

Of all the Primarchs, is Roboute the greatest delegator? He seems to like putting the best people in the best places.

@Duppyman695 4 года назад

I would say yes, he has been called the scholar and seems to know his trade

@SilenTHerO78614 4 года назад

You should really do an episode on chapters with questionable geneseed origins. Smurfs were well noted for being the orphanage of wayward loyalists from traitor legions, and personally ive always suspected that the Silver Skulls were of Iron Warrior stock.

@Among0Shadows 4 года назад

40k Theories has a plethora of videos already out there discussing the origins of many of those successor chapters.

@kelman727 4 года назад

‘The Smurf’s were well noted...’ Only they weren’t. What a remedial blunder!

@minhducnguyen674 3 года назад

Gman spared a word bearer who later founded the ecclesiarchy. He even shielded his existence from the more fanatical part of the imperium even when he realized the stagnation the church had brought upon the imperium. He also employed a warsmith to work on his personal beacon in the imperium secundus. His disapproval of the use of the traitor gene must be partially politically motivated. Maybe some of the new primaris chapters are already based on traitor geneseed and it was intentional. Maybe Gulliman just hide that fact so he can carry on with his experiment?

@VandalAudi 4 года назад

Cawl is a reflection of The Emperor’s arrogance.

@bgcvetan 3 года назад

No, he's Magnus with common sense.

@joshuablake4595 4 года назад

Guilliman after presentation: "Oh my Emperor..." Cawl at 11:54: "but wait! there's more!"

@virgilio6349 2 года назад

Guilliman: "Finally something GOOD!, thanks Cawl, I am now just ever so slightly less depressed"

@connor5070 2 года назад

I think in the first dark imperium book, Gully makes a mention of the benefits and downsides of his legion being broken into chapters, fighting fulgrims unbroken traitor legion.

@jasonusborne8629 3 года назад

If Cawl did create Primaris for all 20 chapters...does that include the II and XI? Even if not, what do the Primaris of the traitor legions do? Fall in under Guillaman? The Shattered Legion template may have a precedent, allowing the strengths of several legions to form custom-tailored battle legions.

@Sumzja 2 года назад

All 20 "your lost brothers" is clearly in the conversation meant for the fallen chaos tainted but it can easily mean the forgotten as well

@blue1111111100 3 года назад

The idea of the primaris being better then the space marines, but taking ten thousand years to accomplish and using big E’s notes makes sense

@LoganSearles 4 года назад

(Cawl comes blasting out of his hole) everyone on mars: CAWL your still alive!? Cawl: can’t talk Guiliman is back gotta show him the new TOYS!

@planetoftheweek 4 года назад

Big E still best at creating super human warriors, proof: Custodes exist.

@matso3856 4 года назад

I would argue not better warriors but better fighters

@theark4568 4 года назад

Big E didn’t make them entirely himself.

@planetoftheweek 4 года назад

@@theark4568 Fair enough, though to be fair Cawl used BIG E's plans, so he technically had it a bit easier, since BIG E did it from scratch.

@planetoftheweek 4 года назад

@@matso3856 I will accept this argument as true, better fighters seems to sound reasonable.

@minhducnguyen674 4 года назад

Primaries are just stronger, bigger marines. They makes great imperial fist but terrible raven guard because of their big frame. They are still weaker than thunder warriors and still fall behind the raptors in production rate. I would argue if he can make lasgun to perform like Taus railguns, now that's groundbreaking innovation

@AdeptKing 4 года назад

I mean the Emperor and Malcador themselves allowed the legions of the two lost Primarchs to be used so it's not a stretch to think traitor gene seed is used in the Primaris. Heck there is evidence that some of the chapters that were already around might be from traitor gene seed already.

@KaiserAfini 4 года назад

"So Cawl, you figured out the template that not even my brother Corax, a primarch, couldn't even begin to decipher" "Yep" "Then you improved upon the Emperor's mastery of science and made half primarchs ?" "Sure did" "You also secured the massive amount of resources, technology and people to make this possible ? Then all the gear to train and indoctrinate them ?" "As you do" "Then you secured the cryogenics and stealth tech to hide them away, like some space squirrel storing nuts ?" "I did it all for SCIENCE |" "You did all this while hiding all trails from the Administratum, Cult Mechanicus or even the Inquisition ?" "I managed" "I think you should run the Imperium, I don't have the faintest clue how you made any of that possible" "I secured a plentiful supply of phlebotinum, my lord, sufficient for these works. If its any consolation, I suspect not even Tzeentch or Creed can explained how this all happened either"

@minhducnguyen674 4 года назад

This is both BS and quite possible. On one hand the Imperium is huge and most organizatin within dont like to share information so Cawl being shady is not quite suspicious. On the other hand , in the Imperium everyone are watching everyone how can this guy hide such a big secrect

@KaiserAfini 4 года назад

@@minhducnguyen674 There is only so much that saying "the primarch told me to do it" will allow you to get away with. The Inquisition would never allow a repository of the most stable gene seed of the primarchs to be anywhere outside of their control. Mars would never allow Cawl to innovate, they would certainly view improving upon the work of the Omnissiah as blasphemous. The high lords wouldn't commit the resources for it. So Cawl being able to just do it is incredibly improbable, I feel an explanation of the logistics is in order.

@IainCiplinski 4 года назад

Corax did just fine, blame the Hydra.

@zollen123 4 года назад

Not to mention he single handled contribution to the development of the whole new generation of weapons, armours and vehicles Any nobody heard of him in the last ten thousands years.

@minhducnguyen674 4 года назад

@@KaiserAfini I'm not questioning whether the rest of the Imperium would allow Cawl to do that, it's simply impossible, rather how did he hide something that big in the first place

@judgestrix5106 4 года назад

Thank you Rho. Really enjoyed hearing Belisarius Cawl getting some attention.

@GruwskiTheDogski 4 года назад

Heed the warning of Alpha Primus, something is brewing in regards of Cawl's agenda. Something is brewing in the sense of both pride and the Mars born killing machines, something that will test the power structure of the Mechanicus and that of the Imperium. Cawl is someone to keep an eye on at all time.

@sltravel9892 4 года назад

As with good story telling, you need to beef up your heroes before revealing an enemy worthy of them. I feel that these thousands of primaris marines are a prelude to things getting EPIC soon. And we are already seeing that with the Necrons rising. Totally excited. A lot of good books, savage battles, and demon slaying to come.

@glitchnix 3 года назад

Cawl: I have done nothing but make Primaris for the last ten thousand years.

@zandrmandr8300 3 года назад

fans: HOW!!!! HOW HAVE YOU BEEN MAKING THEM!!!!!

@mega-bustershepard5537 4 года назад

Anyone else feel that the "Cursed Founding" was a rival project to Cawl's Primaris project?

@bgcvetan 3 года назад

That was Bile mudding the water i think.

@silversurfer8818 4 года назад

Magos: The primaris has been fully integrated into their respective chapters my lord. Belisarius Cawl: Execute order 66!

@g00se0885 4 года назад

Hey, Cawl has denied wanting to be the Fabricator General.

@Directo13 4 года назад

one of his personalities! what about the others!

@sachinaraszkiewicz785 4 года назад

In the Dark Imperium, he keeps asking Papa Smurf for the position, and is denied.

@g00se0885 4 года назад

@@sachinaraszkiewicz785 That's the Cawl inferior actually. So it's his totally not AI puppet.

@g00se0885 4 года назад

@@Directo13 ehhh maybe, I'm convinced it's just the Cawl inferior being sentient.

@sachinaraszkiewicz785 4 года назад

@@g00se0885 Guilliman is treating all the messages from Cawl Inferior as comming from Cawl, even if they were pre-programmed. After all, it was Cawl himself who programmed it, no?

@jaghatai_bulut 3 года назад

I desperately want Jaghatai Khan to return so that he could help Gulliman. Jaghatai always been catious and distant to other primarchs. Him, bounding with Gulliman would be a nice touch to his character arc. We would get to see Jaghatais human side that he only showed to Sanguinius just slightly. Just imagine if Lion woke up too. Gulliman as the administrator, Lion as the enforcer, Jaghatai as the general. man that would be cool af.

@dahmdom7619 2 года назад

Nah I don’t seem him (khan) being cool with any of this to be honest.

@ahrenmann908 4 года назад

So if Cawl is Faust, then I cannot wait to see him meet Mephisto.

@bionetik 4 года назад

Except they are not similar at all?

@bobbygonzalez2056 4 года назад

I wish to see legions reinstated, so that we may finally find out how many Black Templars there are.

@HEAVYISPY 4 года назад

I think you mean, we can finally see how many Black Templars there can be.

@bobbygonzalez2056 4 года назад

No, I mean there are.

@jasonhiggins9721 4 года назад

I think Belesarius Cawl will be the Imperiums Balthasar Gelt. Their Ally, Their Friend, Their Betrayer, in the words of Makarov. He’s totally gonna go openly chaos with all these new projects he’s making. Also, the Alpha Legion is the Emperors Wild card.

@milosstojakovic7586 4 года назад

Clicked to see if there is a new video. Well, well...Wolf Lord Rho just posted 52 seconds ago. Don't mind if I do!

@SamG2 4 года назад

I love Malice! “We shall deny Nurgle their flesh to fester and rot. We shall deny Khorne their blood and skulls. We shall deny Tzeentch their destinies and fates. We shall deny Slaanesh their pleasure and pain. Death to the Dark Gods! For the Renegade God! Let the galaxy burn!”

@Duppyman695 4 года назад

The greatest trick Malice/Malal ever pulled was convincing the world he wasn't cannon !

@mikeincarnation1484 3 года назад

I just leaned what trepidation meant through this video. Thanks brother.

@APinoyInVictoria 4 года назад

Correction: Belisarius HIMSELF doesn't want to be Fabricator General. He says so in his own novel, to Tetrarch Felix, that he finds politics messy. However, the Cawl Minor is the one that keeps on pestering Guilliman about it, and the Cawl Minor likely has his own mind on Cawl's ambitions.

@dantecooke 4 года назад

I thought that in 'the great work' when triarch Felix accuses Cawl of wanting to be fabricator general, Cawl responds with, why would I want to do that and be tethered to mars? When I can be out the imperium? and when Felix asks about Cawl minors asking for it he looks genuinely puzzled/ worried before deciding that he would have to visit guilliman in person later to fix it as it should'ent be asking for it. other than that keep up the good work loving the videos Lord Rho)

@lukefreeman828 4 года назад

I wonder if they're aiming for a Cawl is to Gulliman what Malcador was to the Emperor kinda vibe?

@lukefreeman828 4 года назад

Except cawl is a bit more of a dick I suppose

@joevidya 4 года назад

I thought the elf lady was supposed to be the next malcador.

@helloharr0w242 4 года назад

I'm a little fuzzy on all of the details, but we know Cawl has the mind of his former supervisor and all her knowledge, and we know he has the memories and expertise of the very man who made the black carapace. He's got all of everyone's notes, including the Emperor's and Lady Astarte's. In ten thousand years he elevates and refines the entire armory of the Space Marines and doubles it in breadth, creates and stabilizes several new organs, and breeds an army in total secret all throughout, and then brings Rowboat out of stasis and aids in his healing. Also, he's a meme lord.

@joshuaalan1360 4 года назад

Always a treat to have another video from the Wolf Lord. Beautiful work as always my friend!

@qigonglungz 4 года назад

Another one out the park... Hmm... I wonder if you get credit for repeat views... I seen everything in your library at least twice these days... LMaO... The Badab series is amazing man... I can't imagine how long it took you to prepare it! Based on what I am learning about producing RU-vid videos, I got a whole new level of respect for you guys, especially you, Baldermort, and Leutin.... You guys are so consistent.

@sosomadman 3 года назад

I feel zeal is a more adapt description of his arrogance.

@RamonChiNangWong078 4 года назад

Cawl: here's the legion of Lunar Huskies, The 1001 sons, the warpups, The Dusk Riders, etc etc and they are all loyal as fuck

@michaelhowell2326 4 года назад

I wish that in older books there were allusions to Cawl building the Primaris Legions like AdMech forces being mysteriously found on SM recruitment worlds taking some of potential aspirants with them.

@AdamMichalMarkowski 4 года назад

I'll be honest, Cawl kinda sounds and acts like TTS Cato Sicarius.

@ahumanperson3158 4 года назад

Yes

@marty2129 4 года назад

"It is I, Archmagos Dominus Belisarius Cawl, yada yada yada..." :D

@dawall3732 4 года назад

No he may think that his brilliance can overshadow anything. But he does not wish to be the head of the mechanicum. That's actually a copy of his that wants to place him as the head. There is a bit of lore where he learns of his copies request to Guilliman that he be made the head of the mechanicum. At which point he decides that it is a flaw and makes plans to look into it. There's also another bit of lore where he is talking to the emperor. The emperor tells him that though he may think that he is betraying the emperor and Imperium he has and is not but instead is still working for the emperor under his Direction. After of which Belisarius immediately forgets the conversation ever happened.

@ace_ofchaos9292 Год назад

“But what if we had space marine, space marines?” -GW

@mgtowdadYouTubeSucksCoxks 4 года назад

"They're...all the same! .....I LOVE IT! GET THEM ALL BLUE ARMOR! SEND THEM TO THOSE...... OTHER LEGIONS TOO!"

@exterminatus3497 3 года назад

THERE ALL JUST ULTRA MARINE SPYS!!!!

@Nurriek 4 года назад

In spite of his Arrogance, I believe Cawl to be loyal, and one of the best chances that the Imperium of Man has at survival. For he innovates. He improves. He breaks the scales of stagnant rust from the Imperial Frame. For all the risk he entails, he is necessary.

@minhducnguyen674 4 года назад

Im surprised that they call each other friend. As Guilliman is one of the most pragmatic primarch out there, its hard for him to trust or make friend with normal human, they cant share the same experiance like him. And Cawl is half way a machine . Sure a Magos biologist respect flesh more than normal techpriest but its still near impossible for cog bois to have any human connection

@lVlicroShot 4 года назад

I dint think Guilliman called Cawl his friend, rather, Cawl called himself Guilliman's friend. And the way i see it, it was more to assert his influence to the other members and not really to show affection. Although it could be argued that they do have some sort of friendship

@minhducnguyen674 4 года назад

@@lVlicroShot Wel you dont hand suck an important task to any tech priest , even inquisistor in the imperium. Cawl has to be someone special to get that favourite treatment

@minhducnguyen674 4 года назад

@@lVlicroShot Partnership alone won't guarantee that kind of trust. They need to write more back stories to explain why Cawl get such resource and authorization from G man

@trenchtierstudios554 3 года назад

I wouldn't mind if the legion came back but also kept the chapter structure. I think it was the Imperial Fists that had a secret command to bring all chapters back together as one legion force. I believe it was for an ork attack on Terra; not sure. But as I see it; each new chapter would have their own chapter headquarters on a planet or a ship and would fight their own battles. Yet if it was required; all the chapters could be recalled and reformed into legions of their founders. Then once the threat was neutralized; the legions would break back apart into their respective chapters. So in times of severe crisis; they have the numbers. Yet in times where they need flexibility and ease of movement; they will have the chapters to counter the smaller threats.

@Suncowow 4 года назад

To be fair from what I recall, from either one of the books or the codex, a LOT of primaris died in the beginning of the indomitus crusade due to the fact that they didn't actually have any real battle experience, like yeah their tough sobs but they fight like fresh skitari, they have the knowledge downloaded in their head, and cawl was running them through simulations while they were in stasis, but it doesn't change the fact that they don't really know tactics or have any combat exp. So while it would be cool for the primarchs to return and have legions waiting for them, it would probably be more along the line of what papa smurf is doing in simply taking command of whatever chapter happens to be in the area along with his founding chapter, then moving on.

@whitehammergamess7189 9 месяцев назад

Looks like The Lion is getting his legion back.

@LaughTalePainting 4 года назад

Trayzn & Cawl have to be working together behind the scenes... I'm telling you! Hahaha

@SF-wx1bu 3 года назад

Imagine if the Primaris programme starts to fail, gene faults begin to reveal themselves and the Astartes once again have to defend the crumbling Imperium...Grimnar leads the charge, supported by Gabriel Seth...prolonged battles rage, the Astartes almost defeated...until...the Wolf King returns and the Wolf time signals the beginning of the end!

@akuladoctor7355 Год назад

Just came from the Cawl's story video, and i see no big problem here. Yeah he made better space marines, but was working on it for 10000 years, and even more importantly. He learned the soul merging technic. The Emperor himself is a creation of a similar, if not the exact same action. With that in mind Cawl has the actual potential to become powerful as the Emperor himself. Get enough, and the right souls, and he has all the knowledge, and power to rival the Emperor, and i think that could make him a great villain. Being carried away in his own genius, and start "absorbing" people for power. Becoming a rival to the Emperor, and potentially splitting the Empire into two as he is indeed rival the Emperor's magnificence, and people might decide to go on his side instead. Considering, that he is actually a living acting working being, and not some dude sitting on a throne all the time.

@dablakeboy5877 4 года назад

It makes me sad that cawl was only able to get half of the blueprints for the primarch stuff due to the other half having been "lost". Had he been able to procure the other half, its very much likely the legions of "primaris" would be legions of "primarchs"...let that sink in

@Joseph-mw2rl 2 месяца назад

Calling the son of your god "my friend" is like a christian saying "Shoutout to my nigga Jesus"

@cagthetism 3 года назад

You wouldn't believe how astonishingly humble I am.

@tuor8087 4 года назад

Avenging Son/Dawn of Fire was a really good book. The audio version has come in for some criticism because of the way it was narrated, but I really enjoyed the story and the way the series will tie many things together in a far more coherent and chronological way. Alpha Primus was a failed attempt at recreating a Primarch.

@src6339 4 года назад

Belisarius: I have exceeded your requirements, not only are my primarus marines superior to to regular space marines, but they are also physically bigger. Trust me! there is no way that my marines can be represented in miniature form by existing models.

@0datdude0 2 года назад

How much you want to bet he used thunder warrior dna he got from Arik Taranis? He could always go to Guilliman and say " you said only use the loyal legions, the thunderwarriors were loyal. . . . when not raging madmen."

@Scottec1425 4 года назад

I could be wrong but how does this work? The chapters are normally in charge of there own recruitment and training. How do the primaris learn there traditions if they are not taught to them by the chapters? There's close secrets each one holds in there training. How can they prepare for that without the interaction. And what about the recruitment it self... space marines are recruited from certain planets that no other organization can recruit from... did he go there and get them himself or where did they come from?

@spike.strat1318 4 года назад

The Cawl inferior was requesting Guiliman make Cawl Fabricator general, ( Dark Imperium) Cawl himself said he knew he could never be FG, and wouldn’t want it as it would distract from the work he wants to do.( The Great Work) Cawl is a great character, he definitely adds to the lore. An aberrant cog boy who slipped past quality control.

@tigermunky 4 года назад

So...Cawl's other projects? Gotta be Primaris Ogryn!

@madbeast002 4 года назад

@Wolf Lord Rho : " Welp ! That sorts all Lion El Johnson's Legion sorted out " 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@cgavin1 4 года назад

I do wonder how much of the arrogance and ego is Cawl and how much is Sedayne gloating!

@ESO-ONE 4 года назад

Didn't want this video to end.

@khartog01 4 года назад

Augustus approves of his new legions

@gadrielvanorion9872 4 года назад

first, im new to 40k so, seeing as the primaris and guilliman make such a change to the state of the emperium, i will say, i kinda hope guilliman gets a few of his brothers back, and the emperor gets some sort of.. idk not nesserally a return, but a way to comman more directly. also kinda hope to sanguinius makes some sort of return. thats actually kinda all

@nillynush4899 4 года назад

I really wanted a story like this since I started following the Ultramarines and the general 40k lore. What was life like right after the "Fall" of 30k.

@seriousgeeks7124 4 года назад

I'd love a civil war between First Born and the Chapters embracing Primaris. Come on, pull that trigger!

@mastahoffman4137 4 года назад

Honestly all the successor chapters of the Ultramarines are extensions of the original since the Primarch is back. He can tell any of them to do whatever he sees fit anyways so he actually does have his legion either way.

@connorcmsmith4302 4 года назад

Guiliman never trusted Cawl but in the end he saw him as a necessary evil

@itzHippoHiPP0Th3Gam3r 3 года назад

Even though I’m a blood angels guy, I’m just say’n if Cawl did use the traitor geneseed, y’all better bring back the dusk raiders or someone gonna have more skulls for the skullthrone.

@Emberheart_ 3 года назад

I wonder if Belisarius will end up believing he himself is a reincarnation of the Machine God. His hubris might make him delusional.

@tenajnin 4 года назад

Cawl is only just the right side of the line from where Fabius went. I don't think it would take a lot for him to turn if Chaos inflated his ego and there was the offer of taking the shackles off for his experimentation.