Tuning by Nick Toronto, Ontario, Canada nick@tuningbynick.com Dynojet 224xLC Load Control Dyno Tuning 2006 Porsche Cayman S 987 Honda K Series Engine Swap
You are the man! I was 2 weeks into swapping a K24 into my Cayman S. I was told it wouldn't fit transverse so I ended up buying a Tr9080 transaxle out of a 2020 corvette to mate up to the K24 in its original orientation. This video has completely put a halt to those plans! now I'm going to go back to my original quaife sequential plan.
i wish you success. too many of these cars are being scrapped because the price of rebuilding the engines on those that desperately need it is outrageous. an inexpensive, reliable and powerful engine is just what's needed.
wow this is quite amazing guy. Been watching the k997 since the mockup, this would be a game changer for the 987/981 as an alternative to the LS which is the only other commercialized swap. I wonder what the weight difference will be between one of these and an ls swapped cayman. There has to be a sizeable amount of weight, AND MONEY saved between the two.
I’m definitely following this build! I was thinking about doing the same thing so I’m looking forward to any updates from this project. Keep up the great work on it sir.
I’m currently doing the same swap in South Africa. I have a fully built k24 turbo and I’m busy dealing with the teething problems. How can we get in touch ?
Ive been thinking about this swap alot, but never considered mounting it this way with the honda transmission. Im still kinda skeptical the axles will line up decently, but it looks pretty good so far, definitely a really cool option. I would still try to see if it could be done with the porsche transmission, that would make it abit simpler to integrate with the factory electronics. It would definitely require a custom engine cover since the LS swap already does, and the k series sits much taller than the LS.
It’s been a couple of months since this video. Have you made any progress on the subframe? Great work so far; you guys are making this seem an “easy” swap when your kit become available.
Fantastic Nick, really looking forward to seeing this evolve. It should handle even better with the lighter weight K series. Interested in what gear ratios you will be using. Great work and thanks for sharing.
I'm curious why not use the audi 2.7tt? It bolts up to the trans, and there is a bolt-on flywheel clutch solution. It appears the larger issues are cooling.
That begs the questions if the K20 can fit this well, then would you be able to fit a k24 with a low profile valve cover? That would be very intresting to see
I wouldn't be opposed to leaning the motor forward another 10 degrees, and/or modifying the engine cover to make a k24 fit. This would be best to figure out while designing the subframe.
One thing about choosing a Cayman S vs non-S as a donor. The only reason this car here is available is due to it being an S. The bore scoring issue, which is the primary engine killer in the 987/997 generation, almost only occurs in the long-stroke engines. In these engines, the pistons protrude out of the bores at BDC, which causes increased damage to the skirt coatings. The long-stroke cars also have forged pistons, which fit more loosely in the bores during a cold start than the cast pistons in 2.7L cars. For those two reasons, bore scoring in the smaller engines really only occurs as a result of abuse. And because IMS failure was down to like 0.5% by this point, and few people drive the cars enough to conventionally wear them out, you just won't see many base cars blown up compared to the S (and 911s, which are all long-stroke).
YES! I'm following along here! Can you try using a K series and Honda transmission, transverse mounted, with a (gangsta) lean forward and see if it fits? I want to build a k24 to hold 600-800 hp, but I don't want to build a Porsche transaxle to do the same. Not that custom Honda transmissions are cheap, but they are much more reasonably priced.
@@krazykk4 I don't know where this comment comes from. Didn't you watch THIS VERY VIDEO that you commented on, where he fits the engine and transmission in transverse position? I made that comment during the premier before I saw what he was doing, but it seems like he read my mind (or my and other comments in his other videos)
skunk2 make a low profil valve cover now! you should try it! cayman s are around 30k here in quebec. I don’t know how much we could sell the engine/transmission. But it could help to pay for the swap
Yes !! Please!! Your k997 had a great power curve. I have a 2008 Cayman s and really like the k24 build. Can’t you tilt the engine more for clearance with Porsche trans. Also I’ve seen some LS swaps and they slightly modified the engine cover to clear . I mean 3/4 inch would not be drastic at all in the engine cover, I get shit done with a hammer lol !
Someone really quoted him 25k to rebuild a 6 cylinder engine? That’s insanity…. Was it to be just a stock rebuild? I still can’t get over that🤣🤦🏻♂️ Other then that… this is literally my dream build! Subscribing to see it thru!
25k Canadian for a full engine rebuild with them doing everything from taking out the engine to reassembling everything is acceptable. This car is a Cayman 987 afterall so its not like you are going to find a new engine in a salvage yard for few hundred bucks. But of course a K-Swap is more fun 😉
This was the first Cayman engine i have removed - It is honestly a very easy engine to remove - I am sure i will do another engine removal in the future so i will try and fill that one now that i know whats involved
I have a nearly identical car so I'm watching this with great interest. I think the more common Chevy V8 swap is way too much power but I think the Chevrolet LFX V6 would be a natural swap. I believe that a Camaro sourced engine has close to 350 HP. The V8 is a bit too long and takes a bit of sheet metal work to fit so the V6 should have more than enough fore and aft room. There's always next winter... isn't there ?
@@tuningbynick Thanks for the reply. It was my mistake in commenting on the first video in the series. I see the route you're going now with the transverse mounted drivetrain. I like the use of the underutilized "z" k series.
I have a e36 328i and a eg hatch with a k24 and I don’t believe the k24 is better than my old m52 so I can’t imagine it’s better than a flat six Porsche engine.
@@tuningbynick Don't tell me that! I'm looking for a S now lol. This swap is going to be awesome. I just went and watched the K997 video and liked it way more than I thought I would.
@@tuningbynick You can look for the 987.2 Cayman with the DFI engine. No more IMS and bore scoring issues. However, they are bit more pricy but with more power.
I thought 06 cars didnt suffer from bore scoring. This is a first! Are you sure its bore scoring? 06 cars dont have the alusil liners they have iron cylinders.
Seems heavy for a manual 987.1. I thought Porsche listed these at just 2900 lbs. Seems more like an automatic curb weight. [Edit] I Forgot, this is a 'S', but still 60 lbs more than expected.
$25K was the cheapest quote - Many people have contacted me saying theyve been quoted way more - Obviously there are ways to save costs and im sure there are specialty shops that can do it for cheaper - But from my research, that price is pretty realistic for taking it to a shop and getting it done
I don't understand why would you replace that sweet sounding legendary flat 6 for a 4 cyl with way less hp and torque? It makes no sense to me. A V8, I can totally understand for more power and torque. If you boost 4 cyl, it will cut down on reliability. If I have the choice, I stay NA all the way for reliability, less heat, less weight, less cost, less complexity, less chance for something to go wrong and focus on driving instead of working on the car most of the time.
Hi David - If you havent already - Check out some of the videos of my K24 swapped 911 - I did a dyno comparison with an original engine 911 to so show the power difference - Also if you use good quality parts, you wont have issues with a turbo setup - I really do think turbo setups get a bad rep because so many people just cheap out on "eBay" stuff - I have many many customers with good quality setups that have been running for many years and countless miles with no issues